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Handymansd
04-27-2011, 01:24 PM
"Wind variable less than 10 kt...becoming NW 10 kt in the afternoon. Wind waves 2 ft or less. Swell W 3 to 5 ft at 10 seconds." Ya right... more like 5 to 7ft with occasional sets to 10+ft at around 9 seconds.

"Launched" early 4am... and a waay outside pair of waves flipped me end over end,:eek: after I thought I had cleared the surf zone. Glad i was wearing PFD, the set was easily 8-10ft! I have never had that happen before:o. Climbed back aboard with nothing amiss but my dignity, and soggily headed to the pier, with a pile of leashed goods in my lap and just happy that no one caught that on tape!
Bad idea to go to the pier... as the swell was crashing at the tip of the peir every 90 seconds or so. So, off to the kelp... solid 10-15 ft of Spanish mac/sardine mix everywhere. loaded up and trolled inside, outside, upside, and downside, for nada. Obviously there is still alot of bait around. Had one run at around 120' on the NW corner on fly-lined Spanish but I quickly :farmer:'d it. Probably the T-man with the way the bait was behaving.

Landed in substantially smaller surf, though there are still a few good sized sets if your not careful.:kayak-surfer: I had to just sit and watch the tourists land for a few minutes, that's some funny shit! Beautiful warm day on the water... surprisingly good vis for all the surf.

Even with a miserable launch and no fish love it sure beats being in some office... or worse.

dsafety
04-27-2011, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the report. It is supposed to be worse on Thursday. I was planning to go but maybe it would be better to sleep in. According to the forecasts, lake La Jolla is supposed to return next week.

Bob

flydigital
04-27-2011, 04:28 PM
"Wind variable less than 10 kt...becoming NW 10 kt in the afternoon. Wind waves 2 ft or less. Swell W 3 to 5 ft at 10 seconds." Ya right... more like 5 to 7ft with occasional sets to 10+ft at around 9 seconds.

"Launched" early 4am... and a waay outside pair of waves flipped me end over end,:eek: after I thought I had cleared the surf zone. Glad i was wearing PFD, the set was easily 8-10ft! I have never had that happen before:o. Climbed back aboard with nothing amiss but my dignity, and soggily headed to the pier, with a pile of leashed goods in my lap and just happy that no one caught that on tape!
Bad idea to go to the pier... as the swell was crashing at the tip of the peir every 90 seconds or so. So, off to the kelp... solid 10-15 ft of Spanish mac/sardine mix everywhere. loaded up and trolled inside, outside, upside, and downside, for nada. Obviously there is still alot of bait around. Had one run at around 120' on the NW corner on fly-lined Spanish but I quickly :farmer:'d it. Probably the T-man with the way the bait was behaving.

Landed in substantially smaller surf, though there are still a few good sized sets if your not careful.:kayak-surfer: I had to just sit and watch the tourists land for a few minutes, that's some funny shit! Beautiful warm day on the water... surprisingly good vis for all the surf.

Even with a miserable launch and no fish love it sure beats being in some office... or worse.

Thanks for the report... I'm heading down tomorrow with a few buddies, we may turn around or fish MB if its too wicked.

Note the period. There is some big 5-6 second interval west swell, the 10 second stuff isn't as bad. Lower than 10 though and the canyons don't funnel the wave energy away from the shores. It may be actually smaller tomorrow even though there is a bit of building W at 10 sec. At least this is how I've noticed things go there, its really unpredictable though.

Also remember SWELL height is usually always less than actual wave height. The waves around here tend to jack up to about 1.5 times the swell height when they hit the bottom. So 7-8ft waves from 5ft swell sounds about right, given the period.

If anyone else decides to brave it, see you out there.

frugalfisher
04-27-2011, 09:03 PM
I remember a few years ago when I had a garage sale on the beach with all my gear. I tried three times to make it out and finally made it with your help.
Thanks,
James

FISHIONADO
04-27-2011, 09:10 PM
I remember a few years ago when I had a garage sale on the beach with all my gear. I tried three times to make it out and finally made it with your help.
Thanks,
James

Thanks for the report Chuck. James, I think that was me that saw you getting tossed in the spin cycle several times. I was so impressed that you would not give up, really hoped you would be rewarded with an epic catch that day.

jorluivil
04-27-2011, 10:30 PM
"Wind variable less than 10 kt...becoming NW 10 kt in the afternoon. Wind waves 2 ft or less. Swell W 3 to 5 ft at 10 seconds." Ya right... more like 5 to 7ft with occasional sets to 10+ft at around 9 seconds.

"Launched" early 4am... and a waay outside pair of waves flipped me end over end,:eek: after I thought I had cleared the surf zone. Glad i was wearing PFD, the set was easily 8-10ft! I have never had that happen before:o. Climbed back aboard with nothing amiss but my dignity, and soggily headed to the pier, with a pile of leashed goods in my lap and just happy that no one caught that on tape!
Bad idea to go to the pier... as the swell was crashing at the tip of the peir every 90 seconds or so. So, off to the kelp... solid 10-15 ft of Spanish mac/sardine mix everywhere. loaded up and trolled inside, outside, upside, and downside, for nada. Obviously there is still alot of bait around. Had one run at around 120' on the NW corner on fly-lined Spanish but I quickly :farmer:'d it. Probably the T-man with the way the bait was behaving.

Landed in substantially smaller surf, though there are still a few good sized sets if your not careful.:kayak-surfer: I had to just sit and watch the tourists land for a few minutes, that's some funny shit! Beautiful warm day on the water... surprisingly good vis for all the surf.

Even with a miserable launch and no fish love it sure beats being in some office... or worse.


I know the feeling of thinking you're in the clear just to have some wicked wave sprawl out of nowhere.

This is from my last LJ trip

1,2,3....jump in and :kayak-surfer:. I get through the white wash from the large breakers and once I thought I was in the clear I started to take my time paddling until I saw a HUGE wave building about 50' ahead of me:eek:.....I don't know why but I stopped paddling for a few seconds then told myself, "WTF are you doing...PADDLE YOU IDIOT! The wave was so large that when I was about to clear the crest of the wave my yak was sitting in about a 45degree angle and when I came down the bow slammed into the water. It took me at least 5-10 minutes to gather my senses, had I waited two more breathes I would have been picking my sh*t up from the waters edge.

Handymansd
04-28-2011, 07:08 AM
Hey James, I have helped clean up a few yard sales over time but I think it must have been Dave that day;). I do remember helping you on your relentless pursuit of the almighty T though...:cool:. Are you still in that giant yellow Prowler?

Dave, I have your sunset at the pier photo blown up to a 24x36 framed and matted on my office wall! Thanks :cheers1:

fishinfreak
04-28-2011, 07:17 AM
NOAA forecasts always seem to make the swell less than it truly is. on monday NOAA said swell like 3-5 feet, but when i was surfing blacks monday morning it was well overhead with sets to 10 foot. (i was happy about this though, because it translated into a couple of really nice barrels for me!) i guess the only way to truly know the surf is to go look at it yourself!

Iceman
04-28-2011, 09:10 AM
There are some signs that reason may win the day though, or more to the point litigation. The fear that someone will sue a forecaster for calling a 10 foot wave 5 foot has prompted the National Weather Service in Honolulu and much of the Hawaiian media to start using face size in their reports.Right beach would have 10 foot face sets with 3-5 foot swell

I'll take long period big surf over short interval thump any day!

-scallywag-
04-28-2011, 10:07 AM
WOW !!!!.

10ft barrels at the launch? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Pretty hardcore!!

Dan
04-28-2011, 10:59 AM
WOW !!!!.

10ft barrels at the launch? :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Pretty hardcore!!

eddie would go

Regor
04-28-2011, 11:32 AM
,,,, but when i was surfing blacks monday morning it was well overhead with sets to 10 foot.

WOW !!!!
10ft barrels at the launch?Pretty hardcore!!

Note ... 10' at Blacks, not LJ Cove, it is more protected at the launch.

DESTROYER
04-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Nice! I got down there and decided that I wanted nothing to do with the waves so I had breakfast at Harry's.

Thank you so much for the extender. I owe you a beer or 2:cheers1:

Aaron&Julie
04-28-2011, 01:20 PM
"Wind variable less than 10 kt...becoming NW 10 kt in the afternoon. Wind waves 2 ft or less. Swell W 3 to 5 ft at 10 seconds." Ya right... more like 5 to 7ft with occasional sets to 10+ft at around 9 seconds.

"Launched" early 4am... and a waay outside pair of waves flipped me end over end,:eek: after I thought I had cleared the surf zone. Glad i was wearing PFD, the set was easily 8-10ft! I have never had that happen before:o. Climbed back aboard with nothing amiss but my dignity, and soggily headed to the pier, with a pile of leashed goods in my lap and just happy that no one caught that on tape!

Regor, note Handymansd's original post. He was referring to the launch area.

flydigital
04-28-2011, 02:18 PM
FWIW fished LJ today about a 5:45am launch... the waves weren't that bad... 2-3 occasional 4-5 whammy set every 20 minutes or so. It was a bit smaller on the way in around 1. Was measuring 6-7 foot swell pretty much straight out of the west via the sonar 8-10 seconds on the period.

I got a 4 footer to the face on the way out, always fun. Landing was uneventful.

cabojohn
04-28-2011, 02:26 PM
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Handymansd
04-29-2011, 07:03 AM
Nice! I got down there and decided that I wanted nothing to do with the waves so I had breakfast at Harry's.

Thank you so much for the extender. I owe you a beer or 2:cheers1:
No Problem Matt, hope you get more use than I did out of it! Harry's has got nothing on 6 gallons of sea water down your throat at 500 fps for breakfast... next time I will be a bit more stringent on my surf judgement and join you!:o

DESTROYER
04-29-2011, 08:24 AM
Far too many good days in SD to battle the bad ones:cheers1:

blackcloud9
04-29-2011, 11:39 AM
fyi ... the forecast for Saturday is bleak for a launch at Shores, but great for going surfing.

My prediction is for TPO buoy to show readings of 7' at about 8 seconds, for a launch rating of "Extremely Treacherous".

You just may see some 6-8 footers at the launch, perfect for rent-a-kayak fleet entertainment.

Sunday may be much the same, we'll see. Great fishing weather predicted though.
http://www.larryl.com/favorite_kayak_conditions.htm

Reel Anxious
04-29-2011, 12:08 PM
fyi ... the forecast for Saturday is bleak for a launch at Shores, but great for going surfing.

My prediction is for TPO buoy to show readings of 7' at about 8 seconds, for a launch rating of "Extremely Treacherous".

You just may see some 6-8 footers at the launch, perfect for rent-a-kayak fleet entertainment.

Sunday may be much the same, we'll see. Great fishing weather predicted though.
http://www.larryl.com/favorite_kayak_conditions.htm
This is really helpful Larry, Thanks

dsafety
04-29-2011, 04:17 PM
Maybe everyone should just go the the Children's Pool to launch this weekend. It should be nice and protected.

Just a thought.:evil:

Bob

Iceman
04-29-2011, 05:00 PM
Had it all to myself this morning :D Bigger going out, coming in was not bad...............at least something got my heart thumping!

Stow it and GO!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_3399.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_3401.jpg

Should have brought this I guess.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_3397.jpg

sharonkayak
04-29-2011, 09:14 PM
Monday was a rough day. The swells were so big I got sea sick after making bait. after allmost yaking or chumming off my yak we went in. Decided to make my day even better with a good old yardsale on my way in. not use to my outback in the surf at all!!!

lamb
04-29-2011, 09:17 PM
That sounds scary.

No worries, guys', I'll pick up all your fish tomorrow. :D C'mon already!

Be carefully folks, be patient. What goes up comes down. There are days in LJ launch where you walk through the surf.

Good to see you're back in town Chuck.

Nice pics Andy! Where is the one with the fish, missed that? :biggrinjester:

Billy V
04-29-2011, 10:39 PM
Days like this are what i live for.....
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Handymansd
04-30-2011, 06:52 AM
Monday was a rough day. The swells were so big I got sea sick after making bait. after allmost yaking or chumming off my yak we went in. Decided to make my day even better with a good old yardsale on my way in. not use to my outback in the surf at all!!!

Congrats on the new sleigh Sharon! How are we going to find you without 'ol yellow?
There are many opinions on how to launch and land hobies but I have to say that in the big surf I have been peddling in with bungee attached to pedals and rudder down but unattached so that it can flip up when it hits the sand. speed seems to help greatly when the surf is breaking 100 yds out.

Handymansd
04-30-2011, 06:56 AM
That sounds scary.

No worries, guys', I'll pick up all your fish tomorrow. :D C'mon already!

Be carefully folks, be patient. What goes up comes down. There are days in LJ launch where you walk through the surf.

Good to see you're back in town Chuck.

Nice pics Andy! Where is the one with the fish, missed that? :biggrinjester:

Good to be back in Sunny San Diego, the weather had been different than I remember... must be global warming!:rolleyes:

Handymansd
04-30-2011, 07:01 AM
I thought we banished Andy from LaJolla!!! Now there won't be any fish for the rest of us!!:cool:

kluts
04-30-2011, 10:52 AM
waves waves waves

kluts
04-30-2011, 10:53 AM
waves waves waves,junior?

h2ofishfo
04-30-2011, 05:39 PM
I CALL B.S.! TELL TALE SIGN FROM THE POSTS IT GOING OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

h2ofishfo
04-30-2011, 05:40 PM
IT THE STORY BOOK WAAAVE DETERRENT OO NO

Willis
05-01-2011, 07:14 AM
I would give my left testicle for those conditions.I'm in Crescent City and most days out fish 6-9ft. swells at 6-10 seconds.And winds from 15-20 knots.Not always easy, but untapped.

mtnbykr2
05-02-2011, 10:47 AM
Monday was a rough day. The swells were so big I got sea sick after making bait. after allmost yaking or chumming off my yak we went in. Decided to make my day even better with a good old yardsale on my way in. not use to my outback in the surf at all!!!
I had one too this weekend they do tend to dampen the ol fishin spirit,
mine was a mess:(