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knightnsd
05-16-2011, 11:24 AM
After catching a few fish worth posting I figured now's a good time to introduce myself. I check this site as often as most of you but have been hesitant to contribute until now. I really enjoy reading about others who are catching fish so I hope you enjoy my story as well. This well known dark fellow ( a misnomer of you meet him) told me "it's fine to share as many fish as you like....as long as you wait until there's a change in the weather". With the South wind howling recently it seemed like the perfect time for my introduction. My name's Ed and I'm proud to say I'm a kayak fisherman. I started fishing off a kayak last year, with the main target being yellows. This mostly because I've spent quite a bit of time fishing from boats and I had a basic understanding of fishing for them. I quickly realized that catching yellows from a kayak and cruising the islands with a fleet of boats have very little in common. I'm sure many of you power-boat converts would agree?

The good news is I had a fishing partner to go through these trials and tribulations with. My good friend Dave was somewhere around his 30th trip, fishing <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">La Jolla</st1:place> from a kayak, without a yellow before he took his fate into his own hands. Which means a lot since Dave's nickname is Einstein but I have a better nickname for him that is reserved for knowing him personally. Well eventually my friend hired Josh Pruitt, commonly known as The Darkhorse on this site. This was during last seasons supposed lulls, where a solid fish hadn't been reported in months. Dave was even skeptical of hiring Josh at the time for that very reason. As the story goes they launched to a very quiet ocean and practically had <st1:place w:st="on">La Jolla</st1:place> to themselves. Josh was more than confident they would find the target species as they approached the familiar grounds. Apparently this level of confidence was backed up by results in short order. They proceeded to nail yellow after yellow with just a few slight adjustments to Dave's original approach. This, while fishing the same general areas Dave had been fishing previously. Which according to, Dave, made the lesson even harder to swallow. I think Dave ended up landing three big yellows, but more than anything raved about what he had learned that day.

This turned into a follow up trip with more fish being found, again. Apparently, last season was pretty much wide open for a chosen few....regardless of what fishing reports and landing totals had to show. Being that Dave's my fishing partner, of course, I benefited from these lessons too. I learned some nice improvements to my original techniques by watching my friend, versus the old standard slow troll a Mackerel. If you're after the larger local yellows as apposed to the rat-yellows I've found on kelp paddies, apparently this game is more complicated than most of us realize. The fact is there's a lot more to it if your in pursuit of fish that don't fit into your standard cooler. Being that I have a great deal of respect for what Josh does for a living.... I'll just leave it at that!

From talking to many anglers on the water and at the launch, I've come to not fret about my success to date. I've caught some nice yellows from my kayak and we all know what kind of fight they put up. No matter what vessel you're on. Here's one that I caught shortly after adjusting my technique last season.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/0183.jpg

Here's a beast that brought me to my knees on April Fools day. My personal best kayak yellow that I feel lucky to have crossed paths with....coming in at close to 39 lbs!
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/40lb_yellowtail.JPG

I suppose some guys would be happy catching the occasional yellow, but I'll go ahead and admit to not being as well rounded as I'd like. I guess much of my fishing was really ,at best, randomly rewarding. I mean, who are we kidding.... there's other trophy fish to be caught off our Coast, right? One species in particular has eluded me for quite some time too. You probably guessed it, the elusive White Sea Bass! The truth is I had never caught a legal White Sea Bass. That's certainly not for lack of trying though. If any year I should have caught a legal White Sea Bass it should have been during last season. There were squid around almost all year and not to mention available all day long. I could catch the squid just fine, but I could not make the next transition; turning them into the target species! I am sure some of you can catch Greenback Mackerel all day long and everyone will tell you they're the perfect Yellow Tail bait so why don't they bite? The same is true for White Sea Bass from what I've learned; they're main staple is squid....find the squid and you will find the White Sea Bass. If that sounds easier than it is, well, that's because it is. After reading everything I could on the subject, my results remained the same. Trip after trip. I had squid in my bait tank most of last year, but it did not produce White Sea Bass for me. Not once! It produced everything, but my targeted species as a matter of fact. Which over time...started to wear on me.

Which is the reason for writing this long winded post in the first place. After my friend Dave bought the bullet last year and trying for quite some time on my own...I realized some professional assistance was in order. Strangely enough, after telling Josh it took me forever to find him through a Google search, he told me it's part of his screening process. What he said next was something I'd never expect to hear from someone with their own business. He said: " I only want clients who really, really, want to learn how to catch fish"...."a guide business should grow in an organic fashion"... "from the inside out". While that makes a great deal of sense and is an honorable approach, being a business man myself I felt compelled to write my letter of recommendation none the less. While I realize Josh would prefer to receive all his clients through word of mouth, I'd like to show my thanks in this public referral. So please forgive me while I gloat. For those who might be on the fence, well, just know what could be happening your next trip out. The truth is every time I saw this guy on the water he either had a big fish strapped to the back of his kayak....or was taking pictures of a client with one of their own. When it came down to hiring a professional my path to success was more than obvious. I weaved my way through his booked pipeline of clients and a date was set. Originally, we set a time of 10 a.m., but the day prior Josh rescheduled our charter to 4 p.m. I found out later, that Josh backed me up to 4 p.m. so he could go pull on some fish himself. He admitted that his skin was crawling after not being able to fish, while putting clients first in line on school after school the previous days. Which might have bothered some clients, but I appreciated the honesty none the less. If anything, it should show how much he loves his job. Fishing with clients daily, then fishing on your days off....or, backing up a client a few hours so he can go pull on some monsters himself.... is a level of commitment you'd be hard pressed to find elsewhere. Quite possibly the fishiest guy I've ever seen.

We met up on the water the day of our charter and he already had a big Yellow Tail packed nicely in ice. All this time I thought bringing ice was bad luck? He told me about a big school of fish not too far away. I said: "well, if you want to head out there and chase yellows we can". He responded to me by saying: " you hired me to catch White Sea Bass so I'd suggest we get to it"! He was confident that he would put me in the proper place in short order too. After seeing his fish packed nicely on ice, which eluded to his confidence in producing multiple species that day, I offered a couple of celebratory beers that I brought along. He graciously declined, by saying he'd take me up on the offer after I caught my fish. We made a short move and Josh began to read the conditions, looking for our spot to focus on that afternoon. He looked over his high definition sonar, the kelp, the current and water conditions at multiple spots with a fine tooth comb. We never fished along the way as he talked about our plan of attack. In great detail I might add. He even noticed the tiniest imperfection in my brand new leader and put a fresh one on before letting me send out a bait. Reminding me that when we get our shot...we're going to land it! This all said without a moments hesitation nor a glimmer of pessimism. After trying for so long on my own I'll admit I had my doubts of sealing the deal our first trip out. After all, I was here to learn and catching a fish would be a distant second in my mind. Needless to say, I was a bit shell shocked by what happened next. When after only mere minutes of arriving to the spot he selected....we had fish below the boat. Literally!

Instead of talking about, if, I ever get a bite....Josh kept focusing my attention of what to do when it happened. Somehow summoning my own confidence from within. After less than ten minutes his prediction came true with a heavy strike....and Wham....I'm on! After practically doing everything I could to lose this fish, with Josh hovering over my shoulder the entire time, she comes to color thrashing like something I've never seen. I screamed out she's huge! Josh asked if I wanted to harvest her and I replied with, she's huge, again! So he sank the gaff and my trip was over as soon as it started. Josh told me that I was limited out and I couldn't put a line in the water. Which embarrassingly enough I thought the legal limit was three at the time. After strapping the fish to the back of my Hobie and a couple of high fives we drifted off our spot. I then asked if now was a good time to break out the celebratory brews and Josh was game this time. That Fosters Oilcan might as well of been a bottle of '84 Petrus from the Pomerol region of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>.

Josh gave me the offer of heading back with my trophy fish or continuing the lesson and watching him catch one too. Wanting to learn as much as possible this sounded like a perfect plan to do just that. We made another short move, got located properly and began a drift again. We had fish pass beneath us on the meter and I watched Josh's eyes light up. Which was followed by eyes bulging to the size of a dinner plate as well. While it might have taken twice as long for him to draw that first strike (less than thirty minutes!), I got to watch a pro in action. I watched his textbook technique and the results that almost immediately followed; with his casual sip of the Fosters Oilcan "only when full bendo of course" (which was a great lesson in itself!). Not to mention, quickly realizing why he asked me earlier if I wanted to harvest my fish as she approached color. Suffice to say his fish was considerably larger, but I've got a stinking suspicion I'm not the first client that got bested during their charter! I just can't wait for my next opportunity knowing what I know now; It's the dawn of a new day. I'll just say I've got a feeling this season will be drastically different than the last. Thanks to a professional point in the right direction.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/28_lb_white_seabass.jpg
In case this lengthy read isn't enough of an endorsement, I'll just say my experience with the local pro exceeded my expectations.

I am thinking he may even help me improve on my halibut fishig later this year , it has been good but I am guessing Josh can make it better. Hope my first post was worth reading and I can follow it up with some bigger fish.

theluckypig
05-16-2011, 11:51 AM
:cheers1:to you! :cheers1: to josh!

Iceman
05-16-2011, 12:56 PM
I am still trying to figure out if this belongs in "fishing reports" :biggrinjester:

Nice fishessssssss

THE DARKHORSE
05-16-2011, 01:27 PM
You forgot to say the water was sixty-one degrees, clear enough to catch bait without a sonar and West wind at 10 mph. Saying the same exact fishing conditions, for months on end, tends to help guys decide if they want to go fishing or not.

Next time, try and put more detail into your post! http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABkAAAAbCAIAAAA GQ7M/AAAA40lEQVRIib2SURKCMAxEk6JyHm9D0T/PauFKzgDrR8eSSaEUrO7kI6Wzr9tQoh8JICKiB+YqIIkrTCyjP 0XDdS699aksnAQpFqJKsRRI4WIWYpbHLYICS5lzWSqjNK/OLgGSuOBU2s2Szq8Uv4k4FPQKKz9O9kvBzOVszieuDDEfz0VEd zxvcFXFxlALZ9Fb9H7Lom/RbdClvDMgFpdzrMS8vWezdoRKK/eaFj0zAQAmIt8AQOgzz5tzKX951jAMwKuuuRldFkvi4lzM2cMK rHALyVJbR3Dpj7lqRmenbt+bKqI3APVbF3qdXw8AAAAASUVORK 5CYII= :biggrinjester:

Then again, If you put all that current conditions information, too--- it would have required two cups of coffee to finish reading it! I'm sure someone out there is sipping coffee at work right now, thinking about going fishing on their next day off, about to freakin' lose it; because you took a little time to type. :cheers1:



And being that Ed and I still have these fish in the refrigerator (not the freezer)---that's probably as close to a fishing report as you're going to get. :D

bellcon
05-16-2011, 01:38 PM
OH
that Dark Fellow:doh:

I was trying to fiqure out who you were talking about:D


Andy,
I actually read the whole story... (Geez I thought I was long winded:D)
and yep it's a fishing report


Great job knightnsd,
:wsb::cheers1:
but lose the blue gloves
and give that slimmy beast a big ol hug

or better yet...
wheres the signature DARKHORSE on the water shot?

Congrats one a great fish

yakrider
05-16-2011, 01:56 PM
my eyes are burning...
both from the read and the awsome fishies!
well done!

bigbarrels
05-16-2011, 02:00 PM
good coffee-pounding-post for sure :) congrats on your success! I too, highly recommend people hiring Josh ,if they want to figure out the game. It is like hanging with Jordan on the basketball court for a couple days.......not that I have done this

Dennis
05-16-2011, 02:15 PM
Very cool post... Congrats!

buttchaser
05-16-2011, 02:19 PM
Nice job ! Good read:cheers1:

flydigital
05-16-2011, 02:37 PM
Congrats!!! And thanks for the story, well done!

Iceman
05-16-2011, 02:42 PM
And being that Ed and I still have these fish in the refrigerator (not the freezer)---that's probably as close to a fishing report as you're going to get. :D

touche! :sifone:

knightnsd
05-16-2011, 04:07 PM
[QUOTE=THE DARKHORSE;83907]You forgot to say the water was sixty-one degrees, clear enough to catch bait without a sonar and West wind at 10 mph. Saying the same exact fishing conditions, for months on end, tends to help guys decide if they want to go fishing or not.

Next time, try and put more detail into your post! http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABkAAAAbCAIAAAA GQ7M/AAAA40lEQVRIib2SURKCMAxEk6JyHm9D0T/PauFKzgDrR8eSSaEUrO7kI6Wzr9tQoh8JICKiB+YqIIkrTCyjP 0XDdS699aksnAQpFqJKsRRI4WIWYpbHLYICS5lzWSqjNK/OLgGSuOBU2s2Szq8Uv4k4FPQKKz9O9kvBzOVszieuDDEfz0VEd zxvcFXFxlALZ9Fb9H7Lom/RbdClvDMgFpdzrMS8vWezdoRKK/eaFj0zAQAmIt8AQOgzz5tzKX951jAMwKuuuRldFkvi4lzM2cMK rHALyVJbR3Dpj7lqRmenbt+bKqI3APVbF3qdXw8AAAAASUVORK 5CYII= :biggrinjester:


If I put anymore details in the post I would have to charge people f:cool:or my services!!

roadx
05-16-2011, 04:26 PM
Nice fish! :cheers1: and a good read. looking forward to your next report.

GBF
05-16-2011, 05:23 PM
Very nice read.............congrats to you and THE DARKHORSE!!

GBF

driftwood
05-16-2011, 07:57 PM
You are experiencing what many people can only dream of..... Hooking up big fish on a kayak. How much fun is that!!!! :cheers1:

theluckypig
05-16-2011, 08:07 PM
I'm sure someone out there is sipping coffee at work right now, thinking about going fishing on their next day off, about to freakin' lose it; because you took a little time to type. :cheers1:

hit'n the nail on the head! :o plus, just trying to read and learn...

Vikingj
05-16-2011, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the report. Great story and awesome results! Keep it up.
Wayne

roby
05-16-2011, 09:33 PM
Great read...you know the guide is legit when clients are compelled to write reports about their trips. WTG on the fishies :luxhello:

petemaranda
05-17-2011, 07:02 AM
Great report! Always enjoy a happy ending, thanks for sharing. New to town, sounds like Dr. J is the man...

dfroggy54
05-17-2011, 08:09 AM
Nice fish! Goood read!:cheers1: Lose the Gloves

tagyak
05-17-2011, 09:34 AM
so what i am getting from this report is don't take the first fish?????? wait for the MONSTER FISH!!!! where do i need to sign up???:notworthy:

wolfman
05-17-2011, 10:54 AM
It was a beautifull day fish or no fish! I got a late start (last off the beach), quickly made bait and just past the marker got two macs in the water. After a short time something hit my Carolina rig hard enough to break my leader. About 10min later my fly line went off! This is my first post and first WSB Now I am after a first yellow!

knightnsd
05-17-2011, 11:26 AM
damn I tried a lot of things before I ever caught my first wsb, nice fish even live squid on a carolina rig didn't catch a fish like that for me last year... only yellows you pulled that on a mac none the less that really hurts!:sifone: Hats off to that wsb

greenscales
05-17-2011, 11:34 AM
I think long winded reports are why Ballast Point and friends created coffee ports and stouts - allows you to relax and stay awake for the long read.

No congrats or great luck from me to Josh or his clients, but instead "great return on your investment." Specifically to Josh w/all the non-client times you spend on the water to keep in tune to the conditions. On too many days this year I could only get down when the conditions weren't right, still I see Josh making a quick run to the grounds in the PM for just a quick reconnoiter for his clients scheduled for the next day.

The other huge plus for the YT is his use of a kayak that allows him a line of site higher out of the water to spot the fish. For those of us whose eyes are burnt out from years on the water &/or on low to the water kayaks, we are at a definite disadvantage. The few days I have been able to get in the right conditions this year, I have had to blind cast on the area where he is pointing them out to his clients. For this reason my next kayak will be one I can standup on.

** And no I am not a client of Josh's nor am I trying to get a deal on a new Hobie. I am just pointing out that luck isn't the issue; time and experience on the water, and the proper gear is. ** Now if the we are lucky enough for the weather to clean up during the good tides I know mother Gaia will shine her face on me and release to me her bounty from the sea.

walrus
05-17-2011, 11:40 AM
I think I'll step out to get a cup of coffee before heading for La Jolla after reading the post.

Can we get Josh in the San Diego Hall of Champions? He is best in this sport.

Congrats on the fish.. fishes.

Mtobolsky
05-17-2011, 07:48 PM
It was a beautifull day fish or no fish! I got a late start (last off the beach), quickly made bait and just past the marker got two macs in the water. After a short time something hit my Carolina rig hard enough to break my leader. About 10min later my fly line went off! This is my first post and first WSB Now I am after a first yellow!

Hijacker.... Nice fish everyone! :biggrinjester:

THE DARKHORSE
05-23-2011, 11:08 AM
so what i am getting from this report is don't take the first fish?????? wait for the MONSTER FISH!!!! where do i need to sign up???:notworthy:
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Asking if a client wants to harvest a fish before it's gaffed is standard operating procedure. Believe it or not, I have regular clients who only want to catch and release monster Yellowtail and White Sea Bass.

Disclaimer: I'm a catch and release angler 98% of the time. Prior to harvesting a White Sea Bass this month I haven't harvested one since March 2; my birthday fish that I posted. I've caught the crap out of them the past few months, though. The only thing more exciting than gaffing a monster--- is watching them kick off strong to fight another day. ;)




"No congrats or great luck from me to Josh or his clients, but instead "great return on your investment." Specifically to Josh w/all the non-client times you spend on the water to keep in tune to the conditions. On too many days this year I could only get down when the conditions weren't right, still I see Josh making a quick run to the grounds in the PM for just a quick reconnoiter for his clients scheduled for the next day.

The other huge plus for the YT is his use of a kayak that allows him a line of site higher out of the water to spot the fish. For those of us whose eyes are burnt out from years on the water &/or on low to the water kayaks, we are at a definite disadvantage. The few days I have been able to get in the right conditions this year, I have had to blind cast on the area where he is pointing them out to his clients. For this reason my next kayak will be one I can standup on.

** And no I am not a client of Josh's nor am I trying to get a deal on a new Hobie. I am just pointing out that luck isn't the issue; time and experience on the water, and the proper gear is. ** Now if the we are lucky enough for the weather to clean up during the good tides I know mother Gaia will shine her face on me and release to me her bounty from the sea." [/QUOTE]
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All this time I thought my kayak was designed for flat rivers, lakes and streams. It's obviously too large and heavy to surf launch and land on a regular basis. Not to mention, I'm sure it's too slow to cover the great distances required to consistently catch Yellowtail. I've heard from so many guys that it's not a kayak designed for the big-water. And who am I to say that those guys don't know what they're talking about? Move along folks---nothing here to see. :sifone:

chris138
05-23-2011, 12:55 PM
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All this time I thought my kayak was designed for flat rivers, lakes and streams. It's obviously too large and heavy to surf launch and land on a regular basis. Not to mention, I'm sure it's too slow to cover the great distances required to consistently catch Yellowtail. I've heard from so many guys that it's not a kayak designed for the big-water. And who am I to say that those guys don't know what they're talking about? Move along folks---nothing here to see. :sifone:

Lol so I guess you lost your bet with sharon? Gotta love a fresh dosage of sodium chloride from a fellow fisherperson. :D

THE DARKHORSE
05-23-2011, 01:54 PM
Lol so I guess you lost your bet with sharon? Gotta love a fresh dosage of sodium chloride from a fellow fisherperson. :D


After taking a look at the close interval, thumping surf (for the launch anyway)---I thought aloud saying that Sharonkayak wasn't going to make it out. Unfortunately, she was in ear shot when I said it. The truth is I wasn't man enough to shake lady-luck's hand when she wanted to take me up on the bet :eek:.

I know she made it out unscathed, but who knows how she landed---I'm guessing salty and wet from head to toe. :D

The Hobie Pro Angler handled the messy conditions with ease; going in and coming out. I've never rolled the Prangler or came close for that matter. And the last time I rolled a Hobie (Outback, Revolution, or Pro Angler) was a few years ago shortly after my switch to the Ferrari of kayaks. I've only rolled a Hobie kayak once; it was in the dark, going out---but, that's before I used the pedals going through the surf. That never would have happened if I was using pedals at the time.

After writing this, though, I'm sure it's just a matter of time. :sifone:

Mtobolsky
05-23-2011, 04:09 PM
Josh.....
you smell, its definately time for a bath......three years.....nasty:biggrinjester:

bubblehide
05-23-2011, 07:26 PM
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...Disclaimer: I'm a catch and release angler 98% of the time. Prior to harvesting a White Sea Bass this month I haven't harvested one since March 2; my birthday fish that I posted. I've caught the crap out of them the past few months, though. The only thing more exciting than gaffing a monster--- is watching them kick off strong to fight another day. ;)..."

<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:DoNotOptimizeForBrowser/> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]-->Obviously you've been catching them prespawn, clearly demonstrating your fishing prowess. And something that takes well honed skills, knowledge, and ability. Funny thing about tha prespawn bite, is that some people think that if it's not wide open, the fish simply aren't there.

In my feeble attempts to emulate the master, Darkhorse, here's a picture of a prespawn fish up here, about a couple weeks ago; with a buddy on a borrowed yak, no ff, no gps.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/bubblehide/get-attachmentaspx.jpg

Now there's a whole lotta kelp out there between LJ and here, and there simply has got to be lots of fish for those willing to get out there and work for them.