View Full Version : what wheels do you use?
bus kid
08-01-2011, 09:07 PM
So I'm beginning to look into a new set of wheels. looking at the Hobie trax 2 cart, or the wheeleez beach cart. I currently have a Hobie Quest but with all the talk of a new PA coming in Sept. the darker side of the dark side my get a new member. Anyone have either, what are the pros / cons. I have been scouring the web for a month or so now and its time to turn to the "experts" to make my final decision. Anyone interisted in a group deal?
http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/servlet/the-875/Wheeleez-Beach-Cart/Detail
http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/servlet/the-592/Hobie-Trax-wheel-Cart/Detail
Phatford
08-01-2011, 09:17 PM
Can't have your bait tank installed if you used the Scupper wheel cart....
jorluivil
08-01-2011, 10:06 PM
I use the round ones:D
scoop
08-02-2011, 06:15 AM
I use the first ones. Got them at REI, waited for the 20% off coupon deal. They are great for la jolla (no 4WD here).
bus kid
08-02-2011, 07:05 AM
Can't have your bait tank installed if you used the Scupper wheel cart....
Sure you can. I do it all the time.I have a Tunataxi custom crate behind me and the bait tank behind that. The key is getting your hands on a crate, but the guy that makes them is very sketchy at best. :biggrinjester:
tagyak
08-02-2011, 07:17 AM
i have the hobie wheelez. i like them but the tire pressure doesn't keep very well. ericko bought the hobie trax one, i really like the wheels, but the width seems big to me, although ericko doesn't seem to mind.
one of the things that i like about the one that i have is i can fit it into the front hatch by taking off the wheels. the wheels have a quick release style hub so it is very convenient to do so.
hope that this was helpful.
tim
maui jim
08-02-2011, 07:28 AM
Wheeleze ....best thing ever...:cool:
Siebler
08-02-2011, 07:32 AM
Sure you can. I do it all the time.I have a Tunataxi custom crate behind me and the bait tank behind that. The key is getting your hands on a crate, but the guy that makes them is very sketchy at best. :biggrinjester:
Pretty sure Ryan means a Hobie tank as the fittings for it go down the scuppers.
bus kid
08-02-2011, 08:00 AM
Wheeleze ....best thing ever...:cool:
I tried to pm you about those, but you cant receive PM's where did you buy just the wheels from?
Thanks for the input everyone.
Wheel Barrel Wheels...http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/574/FnD_4_sale_317.JPG
bus kid
08-02-2011, 01:44 PM
Wheel Barrel Wheels...
How do those do in soft powdery sand, The Knobby ones from HF are terrible.
jorluivil
08-02-2011, 01:48 PM
Wheel Barrel Wheels...http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/574/FnD_4_sale_317.JPG
Those looks like they would dig into the sand in no time.
maui jim
08-02-2011, 02:09 PM
I tried to pm you about those, but you cant receive PM's where did you buy just the wheels from?
Thanks for the input everyone.
I ordered them from Wheeleze and made the cart from 1" PVC, some old surf pads and strap and there you have it . the axle iss 1/2" solid aluminum, I can fully load that kayak and center the load onn thecart and it pulls like a dream.. thru soft sand, I have another set of wheels for when I go up north for the hard pack around the lakes , The cart beaks down and stores in the kayak even the wheelezes fit inside, quick release on the wheels, :D
Well worth the money for the wheeleze, I debated that issue for a while but glad I did ... no regrets. no back ache either...:cool:
These wheels are the next size up from those smaller wheels on the hobie carts They have a higher weight cap. and dont plow into the sand at all, maybe a 1/2" depression if that.
coxtanker421
08-02-2011, 03:44 PM
cons on hobie wheelez . you need 2 peps to get wheels back in scupper holes. one to lift yak , and second person to install. you have to be careful installing. easy to damage scupper hole on yak. i tore a big hole when i first got my yak . had to have it replaced. make sure you put locking pin in after inserting legs of wheels to prevent slippage and damage , ie like when going up curbs or stairs. .
PapaDave
08-02-2011, 04:42 PM
I would have to agree on the Hobie wheels in the scupper holes. A bit difficult if you are by yourself. I have to tip the kayak on the side to get them in on my own, which means anything you don't have tied down comes out.
salty pirate
08-02-2011, 04:56 PM
my kayak came with hobie cart but has weeleez tires. this setup works great in the sand. I don't have bait tank though. lean the kayak over to put cart on:farmer: the carts here http://www.wheeleez.com/beach-wheels-pvc.php seem cool but I don't like the strap setup.
Maui Jim,
love your design. and, I believe those are the best
wheels for our applications.
Jorivle (sp?), don't be mislead by a mere glance.
I've had my cart and those wheels for over 9 yrs--and speaking from
real experience and miles of sand pulling--they're second best
to the Wheeleeze.
bus kid
08-02-2011, 07:08 PM
Salty Pirate, thanks for the link :cheers1:
I have not been able to find just the wheels alone. $60.00 per wheel is budget friendly.
Lets_Fish
08-02-2011, 09:14 PM
Have you looked into Power Wheels? They are the ones that fit on battery powered toy cars that the kids rise around on.
Here is a quick link to some wheels: http://www.mypegperegoparts.com/tireandwheels.html
If you yard/garage sale at all look for a used Power Wheel. Mine you it does not have to run, just make sure the wheels are in good condition. I had made my last cart with a set and sold a pair of 10" wheels on these forums for $20. They work great on soft sand and hard pack. You can search my posts under the sale section to see the ones I sold.
maui jim
08-03-2011, 06:53 AM
Thanks Yani,,
After 12 years of sand pulls (and aging knees) I deserved better....:D
Had the wheeleze for a little over 2 years now...mo betta for Maui Jim:sifone:
Beaches in Santa Barbara are nice every summer, and deep in sand parking a little farther from launch, thats why i invested in myself..:cool:
tagyak
08-03-2011, 06:56 AM
Beaches in Santa Barbara are nice every summer, and deep in sand parking a little farther from launch, thats why i invested in myself..:cool:
my momma always told me "why work harder when you can work smarter". :D that's why i bought mine.
wiseguy
08-03-2011, 07:03 AM
x2 on the power wheels! Picked mine up from someone that put out the power wheel car on the curb on trash day! Can't beat free99!:D
bus kid
08-03-2011, 10:18 AM
Have you looked into Power Wheels? They are the ones that fit on battery powered toy cars that the kids rise around on.
Fronts or rears?
I looked at my sons Gravedigger last night and the inside diameters are different, didn't get my mic out, too drunk to take accurate readings. :doh:
I do have an old set gonna see what I can rig up this weekend.
Lets_Fish
08-03-2011, 11:35 AM
Fronts or rears?
I looked at my sons Gravedigger last night and the inside diameters are different, didn't get my mic out, too drunk to take accurate readings. :doh:
I do have an old set gonna see what I can rig up this weekend.
Both should work. Between me and my brother we made two sets from one car. He is still using his set with his X-Factor and I sold mine with my X-13 earlier this year. The wheels on these two carts were not the large ones (maybe 6"-7" diameter and 5" wide). They rode great over hard pack and handled the soft sand very well. You can find larger height and width tires on the web site I posted prior, I think the large wheels fit the "Wrangler" model Power Wheel (10" diameter and around 7" wide).
Good luck.
bus kid
08-03-2011, 12:49 PM
Both should work. Between me and my brother we made two sets from one car. He is still using his set with his X-Factor and I sold mine with my X-13 earlier this year. The wheels on these two carts were not the large ones (maybe 6"-7" diameter and 5" wide). They rode great over hard pack and handled the soft sand very well. You can find larger height and width tires on the web site I posted prior, I think the large wheels fit the "Wrangler" model Power Wheel (10" diameter and around 7" wide).
Good luck.
Thanks I will see if the modifiedpowerwheels.com classifieds have any.
bus kid
08-07-2011, 05:21 PM
So this weekend I tried the powerwheels, wheels. I borrowed the front wheels off of my sons gravedigger, on they way out across the sand they were pretty good. Then after a day of paddling and the weigh of dead fish they kinda plowed into the sand. Gonna keep saving for a set of Wheeleez 30cm.
Just out of curiosity, any one interested in a group buy on the Wheeleez Beach Cart From OEX maybe we can get something going?
http://www.kayakfishingsupplies.com/servlet/the-875/Wheeleez-Beach-Cart/Detail
jorluivil
08-07-2011, 05:44 PM
Then after a day of paddling and the weigh of dead fish they kinda plowed into the sand.
So there's a fish report coming?
bus kid
08-07-2011, 05:55 PM
So there's a fish report coming?
after the bite dies off... Maybe
kobra
08-07-2011, 06:25 PM
So there's a fish report coming?
Uh oh, busted!!! :biggrinjester:
monkyak
08-07-2011, 07:13 PM
I do not like the idea of flipping the kayak on the side to insert the wheels on my hobie kayak so I think I am gonna put a kick stand to hold the wheel unit erect and lift the back end of the yak over the wheel posts then into the scupper holes. That way I don't have to take everything out of the yak. :notworthy:
salty pirate
08-10-2011, 04:45 PM
hey if you do buy wheeleez dont get the pvc one's they are rated @ 95F if you leave them somewhere hot like I did they get warped. get the poly one's they are rated @ 167F. btw my wheeleez are 22cm they seem to be good size
mtnbykr2
08-10-2011, 04:54 PM
I do not like the idea of flipping the kayak on the side to insert the wheels on my hobie kayak so I think I am gonna put a kick stand to hold the wheel unit erect and lift the back end of the yak over the wheel posts then into the scupper holes. That way I don't have to take everything out of the yak. :notworthy:
I have already fabbed this up, well my son did, welded a bung on the Hobie plug in and made a removeable stand works well
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