Mr.T...finally :D

[carbonbass]

well after yesterdays hookup it was hard not to try again. I got up at 6 and had work at 130 so i figured i could get a few hours in. On the water by about 7 and i hit up the receiver.

Gave the guy 4$ and he stuffed my bait tube to the brim. Told him i was going to try for thresher sharks, he said "come back and show me if u get one." I go to the same spot i hooked up yesterday and drop a lively sardine down. I meter a few bait balls, so while im slowly cruising i throw a light kroc and play with the macs a bit. About 30 minutes later my rod tip was bouncing up and down and then ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Clicker was going hot and he took a shitload of line on the initial hit, i knew this was going to be a battle. It was pretty ugly out there to say the least, light wind with dark clouds and a bit of mist, very grim. A boat would cruise by every now and then and see me hooked up. It went down mostly and dogged me towards the bottom.

I would gain line back and he would take twice as much in a drag burning dash. I could feel his tail sawing at my 30lb mono and i started to get nervous that it was going to slowly cut through my setup.

For a few moments of the fight he started to tow me, and took me at least a half mile or so from where i hooked up. I took several breaks, just resting the butt of the rod into my gut and holding the front grip with my hand letting him pull.

Finally, I had color my first thresher :D. My heart was racing, and i was excited but really didnt know what to do with such an intimidating fish next to my kayak, even tho it was a baby, id never brought something this big to the side of my yak before. Not to mention its tail was insane. I did what most people in youtube videos do and just grabbed his ribbon like tail, he didnt like that and shook out, splashing water on me and rocking me heavy side to side, he dove back down and did another screaming run, it wasnt over.

Get him back up, start wrapping a rope around his tail and he shakes out again going back down but not as far. I get him up a 3rd time and this time i get the rope around his tail, i put my hand under his belly and just tossed him on my lap with his head facing away from me, i wrestled him a bit and roped him down more.

Luckily a parasailing boat drove by with a daveys locker worker. He went down to the swim step and diced its gills for me, the first time i saw lots of blood hit my kayak cause of a fish. When i got back in a small crowd formed and congratulated me. One fellow yakker took a pic and texted it to me but i cant seem to dl it on my phone.

Took about 45 mins to an hour and it hit a sardine with a 2oz egg sinker. Oh btw it was tail hooked, and id estimate around 70 pounds including the tail. What a rush and a great milestone for me. I will probably be back out next week on tuesday and thursday to C & R another one.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/starcraftbass/IMG_20151.jpg

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/starcraftbass/IMG_20171.jpg

the harvest

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/starcraftbass/IMG_20181.jpg

thanks for reading

[lowprofile]

you think that size wieghs 70lbs?

wtg on finally gettin one. im going to NPH sunday and hopefully get something out there.

[carbonbass]

you think that size wieghs 70lbs?

wtg on finally gettin one. im going to NPH sunday and hopefully get something out there.

Including the tail yes. I have caught rays up to 80lbs this actually felt heavier lol

[Mtobolsky]

I am jealous! Nice catch......35-40 lb absolute max though, no way that things pushing 70

[jorluivil]

I am jealous! Nice catch......35-40 lb absolute max though, no way that things pushing 70

Ditto.

[Montesdad]

20-25 pounds for that baby - max.
Your first thresher is always fun - only keep what you can eat, please release the rest.

here's a link to a verified 100 pounder one of my friends caught just recently.

http://www.kayakfishingmafia.com/smf/index.php/topic,2688.0.html

[steveooo]

Don't forget to eat the umbilical cord. Its the best part...

[dos ballenas]

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/california-fishing/142806-if-you-going-fish-threshers-please-first.htm

if you plan on catching and releasing threshers please read the attached link on the web link above. the majority of thresher sharks that are caught with sportfishing gear are tail hooked. thresher sharks, like all sharks are ram ventilators, which means in order to breath they need to be swimming forward. when tail hooked threshers get pulled in backwards which is often makes it difficult for the shark to breath. as a result, many thresher sharks die after being released. a recent study done by PIER shows that tail hooked threshers that are fought for an extended amount of time usually die after being released. keep that into mind the next time you hook up to a thresher.

you said it took 45 min to an hour to reel in your shark. i would call that an extended amount of time. in reality you could have had that fish boatside in less than 5 minutes on 30 lb test. maybe if you went to the gym more the shark wouldn't seem heavier than it actually is and you might have been able to pull back on it? that is probably the smallest thresher shark i have ever seen killed... nice fish :leaving:

[YakMedic]

awesome job :cheers1:, I've been following your attempts at a Tshark, glad it finally paid off for you congrats. Don't let anybody kill your stoke, you caught your target species after multiple attempts and you got an decent harvest. The only advice I would give is to cut its gills prior to thowing it between your legs.

[carbonbass]

Thanks for the correction on the weight guys. Maybe because its so stout it felt heavier to me looking at others 40 ish seems more reasonable, 70 or 40 still the biggest fish I have taken on the yak, hope I don't give off a cold shoulder killing this baby, I really am a c & r fisherman but many have told me these guys taste better than swords, I only keep what I eat, I won't keep another for a long time cheers.

[The Kid]

Don't let these guys bust your nuts to much. If you want to eat them, EAT THEM! We are all fisherman, most of us keep fish, and those of us who keep them eat 'em. Who are any of us to tell you you shouldn't keep this or catch that (unless they are illegal of course). I'd rather you keep the small ones than the big girls. Congrats on your PB from the yak.:sifone:

[dorado50]

Congrats on your "trophy" fish! Too bad it was tail hooked, takes all the fun out of the fight.....36#s at best.

[carbonbass]

Don't let these guys bust your nuts to much. If you want to eat them, EAT THEM! We are all fisherman, most of us keep fish, and those of us who keep them eat 'em. Who are any of us to tell you you shouldn't keep this or catch that (unless they are illegal of course). I'd rather you keep the small ones than the big girls. Congrats on your PB from the yak.:sifone:

Yea it was a lot more comfortable for me to handle a smaller one for my first one too. I feel like the smaller ones go for dines over macs, I hooked an even smaller one the day before, I definitely woulda let that one go cuz there was almost no girth or meat to it. Anywho, I figured if its like calico bass the older they are the oily they are. Plus like ur saying let the big toads continue to breed and pass down the large genes. Thankyou for your support, I only report to inform others that are still in wait of a fish like this, if I wanted to get flamed I'd go get a bucket and keep short bass and hali and post pics on BD lol :rolleyes:

[Caden]

Nice catch bro! I may come out there tomorrow

[scoop]

Yea it was a lot more comfortable for me to handle a smaller one for my first one too. I feel like the smaller ones go for dines over macs, I hooked an even smaller one the day before, I definitely woulda let that one go cuz there was almost no girth or meat to it. Anywho, I figured if its like calico bass the older they are the oily they are. Plus like ur saying let the big toads continue to breed and pass down the large genes. Thankyou for your support, I only report to inform others that are still in wait of a fish like this, if I wanted to get flamed I'd go get a bucket and keep short bass and hali and post pics on BD lol :rolleyes:

You had to expect some flames for holding up a juvenile thresher.

Personally, I would rather eat the 4$ worth of sardines!!

[fknricter]

do yourself a favor and DO NOT post this on BD!

congrats on getting your target species, now focus on getting a trophy!!

[T Bone]

Don't forget to eat the umbilical cord. Its the best part...:cool:

Good Job on the target fish.I knew you would get one eventually.Sorry you had to get a citation from the thresher police.Enjoy it on the grill(flip steaks with a spatula like burgers)

:sifone:

[dick fabulous]

Not down with this. Share it with Casey Anthony. pre-mature ejaculation congratulations fellow fisherwho :cheers1:

[carbonbass]

Not down with this. Share it with Casey Anthony. pre-mature ejaculation congratulations fellow fisherwho :cheers1:

Well guess what, what I did was legal so suck my pie hole penis face go "save the world"

[sterling]

Hey you got a Thresher regardless of size. There are a lot of people who haven't got one, and would like to including myself. IMHO anyone who harvests a legal fish shouldn't get any grief especially with the MLPA giving us enough grief.:mad:

Actually harvesting the younger ones is more sustainable.:)

[jorluivil]

I'll get the popcorn:D

[The Kid]

Don't start with the damn popcorn!:biggrinjester::wavey:

[jorluivil]

Don't start with the damn popcorn!:biggrinjester::wavey:
FINE!!! I just grab some chips and a coke.

[dick fabulous]

Well guess what, what I did was legal so suck my pie hole penis face go "save the world"
I'm not tryin to save the world carbonass. Get a filet o fish sandwich instead. Your a deusche just like any other with your '70' pounder for a yay look at me photo. Try harder. Legal yes. Carbonhole yes. Like I said, make sure you share some with Casey. :you_rock:

[ODOGFISH]

... damn I'm ordering pizza :D

dude ya did wat ya did I'm sure your next ones will be C&R , oh yea don't for get to get pics ... you may want to ask the shark PD what size they tend to keep when targeting the all mighty T-shark ... congrats !! ... btw I hope the next one kicks your butt :biggrinjester:

[Amish Ed]

Told you you'd get one. Now go get a big one. Enjoy the food too, that's good stuff there. I don't like to eat most cooked fish, but I do like thresher on the BBQ.

[Billy V]

Thats a 20 lb. fish - Don't kid yourself.

If you're going to take a thresher at least wait until is more than 6 months old.

[CalicoCody]

do yourself a favor and DO NOT post this on BD!



If you had a brain in your skull, you would know it'd be a good idea to listen to this advice.:D

I know you post on BD frequently, so you have to know how it goes when someone posts pics of dead, small sharks. :boxing_smiley:

[The Kid]

I'll get the popcorn:D

Ok f*** it!!! Time to break out the popcorn!

:shot:

[carbonbass]

i thought what i was doing was informative, and somewhat inspirational, but due to the responses ive recieved i wont post here anymore. I thought this was a community that supported kayak fishing. I caught this shark from a kayak and legally kept it. With this much hassle it is not worth posting another report. Enjoy kayak fishing everyone. It is a beautiful sport filled with luxuries, but since i dont recieve support from other fellow fisherman there is no value to report here, good luck and good bye. CB~

[Fiskadoro]

Threads like this remind why I gave up fishing... or was that just internet fishing :biggrinjester:

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[jorluivil]

Threads like this remind why I gave up fishing... or was that just internet fishing :biggrinjester:


One of my all time favorite movies!!

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

IMHO anyone who harvests a legal fish shouldn't get any grief especially with the MLPA giving us enough grief.:mad:



This is where you are wrong Sterling, keeping fish like this just gives our opponents more ammunition. Whether the catch was legal or not, this catch just looks bad.

[stuppid]

You guys are a bunch of old ladies. Legal is legal.

[jorluivil]

I was out fishing.........looks like I didn't miss much.

[Tman]

i thought what i was doing was informative, and somewhat inspirational, but due to the responses ive recieved i wont post here anymore. I thought this was a community that supported kayak fishing. I caught this shark from a kayak and legally kept it. With this much hassle it is not worth posting another report. Enjoy kayak fishing everyone. It is a beautiful sport filled with luxuries, but since i dont recieve support from other fellow fisherman there is no value to report here, good luck and good bye. CB~

Wait...did he just take his ball and go home? :doh:

[ccoral]

Baby killer maybe 40 lbs

[Deamon]

You said:

-"your reel went "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"...i'm guessing it was more like "z"

-"Clicker was going hot and he took a shitload of line on the initial hit"...You using a Snoopy Push Button Combo?

-"I would gain line back and he would take twice as much in a drag burning dash"... water, quick!!!

-"For a few moments of the fight he started to tow me"...Yee HAW!!

-"and took me at least a half mile or so from where i hooked up"...please

-"really didnt know what to do with such an intimidating fish"...ummm, put it back in its crib?

-its tail was insane...insane?

-rocking me heavy side to side...hold on tight to something!!!

-did another screaming run... "z"

[driftwood]

Dude, Just wondering, What made you think posting a premature fetus was "inspiratioinal" ?? what were you thinkg?

Yeah legal, but NOT "inspirational'

[Dan]

Legal fish. Eat it, share it, enjoy it and don't feel even a little bit bad. We all make our own rules within the rules.

[MattRabasco]

I think I feel worse for the fisherman than the fish here! Give the guy a break-play nice. Slamming a guy for catching a legal fish and getting super stoked about it is not very COOL!

[wade]

Legal fish. Eat it, share it, enjoy it and don't feel even a little bit bad. We all make our own rules within the rules.

Dan just said it the best..

"We all make our own rules within the rules."...

Big Waters Edge Community RULES, because we police ourselves..

No Corrupt F&G:the_finger:

Follow the rules of the water, not the man..:reel:

[WCW Moderator]

Nothing wrong with stating an opinion or or stating your perceived reasoning behind keeping or not keeping, just leave the name calling out!

[dorado50]

Quite a learning experience for the kid! I'm sure his over excitement maybe clouded his jugement or maybe he just did'nt know that he can catch larger fish! Who knows?.We all have made one or two bad jugement calls at some point in our fishing experiences....come back kid:reeling:

[wade]

Quite a learning experience for the kid! I'm sure his over excitement maybe clouded his jugement or maybe he just did'nt know that he can catch larger fish! Who knows?.We all have made one or two bad jugement calls at some point in our fishing experiences....come back kid:reeling:

X2!:cheers1:

Chalk it up as #1st one learned..
(& on a side note, if u really did drag that thing by its tail for over 30 minutes, chances are it wouldnt have made it, so chalk that up too as it didnt go to waste..:cheers1:)

[jorluivil]

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[Mtobolsky]

If any of you haters out there have ever had the opportunity to eat day old pups, you wouldnt be hatin' tender as butter!!! :biggrinjester:

Everybody relax.. The kid lands his first thresher gets stoked, eats it... Big deal. Like he said he cr's most others. Better that poor little guy than a poor big guy that is breeding stock filled with mercury any way. Every time I see a trophy shark strung up I have two thoughts... What a magnificent creature and poor thing.... I just feel bad to see this but better the little o es I guess... No right answer here if you ask me. At least it is being harvested and appreciated. Good job, that is what fishing is about for me anyways.

[mtnbykr2]

congrats on the T, good food anyway you slice it, that's one more than I have this year :reel:

[StinkyMatt]

Only post your report if you satisfy the following conditions:

The fish was legal

it was not too small...

it was not too big...

it was not a calico

it was not a fish considered a "trash" fish by any members of the board

you better not have kept more than one fish

you must eat ALL of your catch fresh the same day

God forbid you have some fish in the freezer already

You called and checked with fellow community members that they approve of your slot limit on the species.

You spent 5 hours trying to revive the fish unsuccessfully.

Oh, you always have to fish with 50 pound gear just to avoid having a fight over 10 seconds.

The fish can not be caught in "suspect" places like Cabrillo

Your post can not be made in the same decade as the catch.

All identifying marks and landmarks must be obscured in order to preserve the secret status of the location.


My head hurts!::confused:

[jorluivil]

You forgot something, I don't know what it is but I'm sure you forgot something.

BTW........sorry, I haven't called you back.

[Hypoxic1]

Matt, very well said. cant think of anything to add at all. Carbon, get over the haters and enjoy your fishing. There are some other very nice folks who share this board

Its all about the stoke:reel:

[dorado50]

Only post your report if you satisfy the following conditions:

The fish was legal

it was not too small...

it was not too big...

it was not a calico

it was not a fish considered a "trash" fish by any members of the board

you better not have kept more than one fish

you must eat ALL of your catch fresh the same day

God forbid you have some fish in the freezer already

You called and checked with fellow community members that they approve of your slot limit on the species.

You spent 5 hours trying to revive the fish unsuccessfully.

Oh, you always have to fish with 50 pound gear just to avoid having a fight over 10 seconds.

The fish can not be caught in "suspect" places like Cabrillo

Your post can not be made in the same decade as the catch.

All identifying marks and landmarks must be obscured in order to preserve the secret status of the location.


My head hurts!::confused:



its never too late to exit.........:biggrinjester:..

[dorado50]

Matt, very well said. cant think of anything to add at all. Carbon, get over the haters and enjoy your fishing. There are some other very nice folks who share this board

Its all about the stoke:reel:



Anothers opinion, although different than yours, you consider a "hater"....GET REAL DUDE :the_finger:

[jorluivil]

Jorge never has a second bag of popcorn

[Hypoxic1]

:sifone:

[mtnbykr2]

GEESE....:reel:

[cabojohn]

i thought what i was doing was informative, and somewhat inspirational, but due to the responses ive recieved i wont post here anymore. I thought this was a community that supported kayak fishing. I caught this shark from a kayak and legally kept it. With this much hassle it is not worth posting another report. Enjoy kayak fishing everyone. It is a beautiful sport filled with luxuries, but since i dont recieve support from other fellow fisherman there is no value to report here, good luck and good bye. CB~

don't let the door hit you in the ass on yer way out. :the_finger:

[Deamon]

something about grossly overstating the facts of that "sizzling" battle...

exaggerating the weight of your fish will get the masses stirred up

Upon looking at that "tail" in the photo...I immediately reached down to see if my belt was gone...:eek:

[dick fabulous]

This post has seemingly been homogenized by the Obama Administration. I feel good again.:luxhello:

[Billy V]

- Just because something is legal don't mean its morally right to do it.

I would bet that if asked the large majority of fisherman on BWE would not kill a baby thresher shark. - Even though it may be legal to do so.

Given the scrutiny that all Kalifornia Fisherman are under by exploitive eco-terrorists. ie. mlpa proponents we need to be cautious how we portray ourselves publicly.
-I don't think its fair - but its the way it is - like it or not.

Thresher Sharks are a Hotbed issue given how little known about their biology and behavioral ecology. When you kill and hold up a baby thresher by the tail for the camera it doesn't go over well with a lot of people.

-If you held up a 5 lb. rat yellowtail you would catch flack as well.
Even though it is legal to do so....

[mtnbykr2]

next subject....:reel:

[jorluivil]

next subject....:reel:

Obviously its my shorts and the hockey gear. If you guys keep talking all that mess about my shorts and my hockey gear I will stop posting on BWE!

[mtnbykr2]

LOL, LMAO...
sorry we won't say anything about your shorts anymore...we were just teasin:reel:

[Rusty]

Blah blah blah blah blah. Catch, kill, and eat.

I'm sick of the haters !!!!!

[Matt]

Legal fish, legal eats...

[Ed]

don't let the door hit you in the ass on yer way out. :the_finger:

Hey Cabo, why do you have a picture of my girlfriend in your signature pic?:canabis:.

[maui jim]

HOW 'BOUT Them PADRES ,or DODGERS, or ,ANGELS.......:D

I have a dead horse for rent for those who are interested...:cool:

[Siebler]

Legal fish, legal eats...

Thats my thoughts. Looks pretty delicious to me.


This thread kinda reminds me of the "You killed those poor little ducks??" that I get all the time. If your going to eat it and it was legal then go for it. Only take what you can consume and youll still be on my good side.

[Rusty]

HOW 'BOUT Them PADRES ,or DODGERS, or ,ANGELS.......:D

I have a dead horse for rent for those who are interested...:cool:

Horse killer!!!!! I'm gonna shut you down. :biggrinjester:

[Limits]

I've got a $140 jigstick I bought for $40 that I'm trying to sell for $80 if anybody's interested...:rolleyes:

[mtnbykr2]

it kinda smells like a dead horse or something, can you smell that....:reel:

[lpf-wildlandfire]

lmao :cheers1:
I've got a $140 jigstick I bought for $40 that I'm trying to sell for $80 if anybody's interested...:rolleyes:

[Aaron&Julie]

X2!:cheers1:

Chalk it up as #1st one learned..
(& on a side note, if u really did drag that thing by its tail for over 30 minutes, chances are it wouldnt have made it, so chalk that up too as it didnt go to waste..:cheers1:)

X3!:cheers1:
Everyone knows your estimation and difficulty were a little out of whack. Like someone said, "Most of the guys would have that caught in 5 minutes", tail hooked or not. Hell, even my gal would have. You were no doubt being cautious after losing so many others. Can't blame you for that. Being your PB on a yak, you obviously way over-estimated its weight. I'd guess 25lb, maybe 30 max. But, what the hell it was legal. I've got much bigger gripes with people who poach 100 lobster in one night in the off-season, then get off with what I think is little repercussion, I'd give them at least 6 months in jail, that'd stop that.<O:p</O:p
Jim Sammons was right, though, it's bad publicity in our fight against the MLPA, because the ignorant nut-job environmentalists, don't know or care that the much larger fish are always the breeders. They'll only call it baby killing, regardless.
And Wade was right, that fish was probably going to die being dragged tail first for 30 minutes. Better to keep it, and eat it, which you obviously are doing, than leave it for the bottom feeders. IMHO. I just wouldn't have posted the photo, and let everyone call you a liar, without a photo. Then, no one would have known it wasn't a 70lber. :luxhello:

But, I loved your enthusiasm. Get a little thicker skin, buy a scale (one that goes to 50lbs), and keep coming back. Your post was nice.<O:p</O:p
Most of the actual comments were on your side, many of the negatives ones were strictly in sarcasm. Sometimes you gotta read between the lines.<O:p</O:p
On a side note, there were some funny comments made by Deamon. All in good fun, as far as I’m concerned.<O:p</O:p
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Good luck and hook up,<O:p</O:p
Aaron<O:p</O:p

[stuppid]

If they did not want you to keep them they would up the sixe limit. Keeper is keeper.

[Caden]

Hello there! R u still going Newport hunting for mr t? 08/11/11:reeling: if u do I'm have stealth 14 stone color

[lowprofile]

i cant believe this thread is still going

Hello there! R u still going Newport hunting for mr t? 08/11/11:reeling: if u do I'm have stealth 14 stone color

I'll be out there on the 12th. Blue X-factor. ill be drifting macks for whatever. there's ghosts out there too.

[blazian]

For the supporters of the person of interest, we for the most part are not griping about the small shark (some do) , it's about the bullshit 70lb brag "with tail for sure" and that he tried to make a quick buck off of this forums members with those clearance rods he tried to sell to people. Those two strikes are the reason members are talking shit.:sifone:

[jorluivil]

I've never had a third bag of popcorn

[maui jim]

I still have that horse....:D

[driftwood]

For the supporters of the person of interest, we for the most part are not griping about the small shark (some do) , it's about the bullshit 70lb brag "with tail for sure" and that he tried to make a quick buck off of this forums members with those clearance rods he tried to sell to people. Those two strikes are the reason members are talking shit.:sifone:

x2...... He reminds me of someone in the past....

And now, will the real fishseeker please stand up!
http://www.kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=1086

[jorluivil]

x2...... He reminds me of someone in the past....

And now, will the real fishseeker please stand up!
http://www.kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/album_pic.php?pic_id=1086

That looks like the one Roby released yesterday.

[sharonkayak]

recent post on bd. thought this should be up here as well.

[jorluivil]

recent post on bd. thought this should be up here as well.

His pamper needs to be changed, looks like he wet himself.

[mtnbykr2]

too funny:reel:

[radastaff]

just read this
post kinda bummed me out
mostly for crushin the guys stoke

always thought CB was a cool dude

education can happen
without the crap

1st i herd bout the rods though
thats a no no
and would have jaded me somewhat iam sure
specially if i bought one and then found out

he prob did the right thing anyways by keepin it
if the pup was tail hooked and he didnt know fer sure what he had on
and werked it for a long time to be carefull not to loose it
happens to newbies all the time
missed if he said it jumnped early on or not

not everyone
is a seasoned salt

board protocal takes time to learn for some as well
like me for instances

anyways
iam sure we all can learn from this post
one way or another

less tempted to post reports
as are some others i bet
now a days

on most these boards

regardless

prob wish i haddent read it after all

hurumph

[jorluivil]

just read this
post kinda bummed me out
mostly for crushin the guys stoke

always thought CB was a cool dude

education can happen
without the crap

1st i herd bout the rods though
thats a no no
and would have jaded me somewhat iam sure
specially if i bought one and then found out

he prob did the right thing anyways by keepin it
if the pup was tail hooked and he didnt know fer sure what he had on
and werked it for a long time to be carefull not to loose it
happens to newbies all the time
missed if he said it jumnped early on or not

not everyone
is a seasoned salt

board protocal takes time to learn for some as well
like me for instances

anyways
iam sure we all can learn from this post
one way or another

less tempted to post reports
as are some others i bet
now a days

on most these boards

regardless

prob wish i haddent read it after all

hurumph


Amen

[Amish Ed]

X3

[bellcon]

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Hurumph!