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blackcloud9
10-05-2011, 07:38 PM
"One man's trash is another man's treasure."




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bellcon
10-05-2011, 07:43 PM
Very cool fish and pics
:cheers1:

Whizz Bang
10-05-2011, 07:43 PM
You have mastered something I have neglected. Do you do apprenticeships?
Love the post. Congrats!

StinkyMatt
10-05-2011, 07:54 PM
That ain't no trash......



Damn nice Sheep.

:D

Those guys always looked pissed off.

blitzburgh
10-05-2011, 08:39 PM
Mmmmmmmm...........taaaassteeeee!!!!!

jorluivil
10-05-2011, 09:22 PM
Bottom fishing is the shiznit, more so on light action gear.

Amish Ed
10-05-2011, 09:29 PM
Nice fishes. Kinda tasty looking.

Hamachijohn
10-05-2011, 10:02 PM
Way to go! Thx for sharing and the fish porn. Wish there were sheepheads up here in norcal... so tasty. you can catch them sometimes in Bis Sur and south, but..

anyway, looks like good eatin!

Aaron&Julie
10-06-2011, 05:49 AM
Your bottom fishing results are uncanny. You'd think you were fishing points north of Morro Bay. Congrats.

hook1fred
10-06-2011, 07:14 AM
Damn good job.... everytime I go out targeting bottom fish I end up with several fish about 4-6 inches long :)

ashmoz
10-06-2011, 07:28 AM
Highly enjoyed your bucket.

Cheers,:cheers1:

Deamon
10-06-2011, 07:34 AM
That's some good photos right there...great job!

bigbarrels
10-06-2011, 07:35 AM
Highly enjoyed your bucket.

Cheers,:cheers1:



x2........thanks for sharing your photos:D

j mo
10-06-2011, 07:36 AM
Larry,

Ive heard for years how good Sheeps are, yet the last time I actaully ate one or tried to it was horrid! Perhaps its the water up here, perhaps I got sloppy in filleting and knicked the bile duct and spoiled it. I dont know...

Do they really taste that good?

ps enjoy your posts....

tagyak
10-06-2011, 08:09 AM
Larry,

Ive heard for years how good Sheeps are, yet the last time I actaully ate one or tried to it was horrid! Perhaps its the water up here, perhaps I got sloppy in filleting and knicked the bile duct and spoiled it. I dont know...

Do they really taste that good?

ps enjoy your posts....

i am not sure how you prepare your fish for eating but in asian restaurants if you purchased a sheephead that size, EASY $100. they normally will steam the fish with garlic and green onions with some sesame oil and some other goodies. it is REALLY good.

ful-rac
10-06-2011, 08:54 AM
Trash Fish??? :hmmmm: Rockfishin' is awsome only wish I could do more!!! NIce red!

warfrik
10-06-2011, 09:20 AM
Way to go!

blackcloud9
10-06-2011, 09:44 AM
@full-rac: Maybe you got it backward, actually my 'trash fish' reference
could be the taste of cooked yellowtail, compared to flaky white vermillion
or lingcod.

Yellows I'd rather not even catch them, however, other men TREASURE
them. And, that's OK, more 'flaky-white' fillets for us.

:cheers1:

P.S. When I want sushi, I fillet up a huge spanish mack or greenback -
but NO WAY will I give up the gps location of where I catch THOSE little
treasures. : )
:rolleyes:

pchen911
10-06-2011, 11:11 AM
When I want sushi, I fillet up a huge spanish mack or greenback
:rolleyes:

Agree on the spanish, but not the greenbacks.

Spanish Mack sashimi sells for $17 per mackeral at Sushi Ota.

pchen911
10-06-2011, 11:15 AM
Larry,

Ive heard for years how good Sheeps are, yet the last time I actaully ate one or tried to it was horrid!

Do they really taste that good?


Yes.

Very soft and flaky, you can't fillet and fry them like you do for rockfish.

Tagyak is right. They need to be steamed gently.

maui jim
10-06-2011, 02:46 PM
NICE F"N GOAT....Reds are tasty....:cool:
Lings are the Gordon's Fishermans payday...:D

Billy V
10-06-2011, 07:47 PM
Nice collection of rock fish.

wiredantz
10-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Matt we need to go catch some REDs!:the_finger:

Tman
10-06-2011, 08:35 PM
Killer video, saw some peaks of land though...:doh:

Fishin' in my old stomping grounds...just in deeper agua

Very nice with the tutorials, may need to back off that MASTA of the DENIZENS of the DEEP...What's your going rate? :sifone:

Would love to join you some day, my spot from the launch (only cuz I don't head further S) never produces like that...:notworthy:

Let me know the going rate/beverage type/quantity/food preferred...

The Kid
10-07-2011, 07:13 PM
Nice goat Larry, that is some super eats! The thing could almost eat a legal.

tunaseeker
10-08-2011, 01:02 PM
Great vids thanks for sharing!

blackcloud9
10-13-2011, 07:32 PM
Damn good job.... everytime I go out targeting bottom fish I end up with several fish about 4-6 inches long :)

Thanks.

Some tips that everyone should know. The key is not to spend your time
reeling up and killing little tiny fish that you don't want. Right?

This juvenile 'bycatch' is what gives deep rockfishing a bad name in the
MLPA/enviro world. Less-equipped people may get their limit of keepers,
plus, kill 10 or 20 babies in the process. This is unsustainable and makes
you just want to stop.

How do you combat that? Just think for a minute.

If you used a 7/0 circle hook, a big bait, a high modulus graphite rod and
200 feet of no stretch spectra/braid and only tighten up when you feel a
big headshake bite, you wouldn't catch little ones.

If you fish the 2 oz plastics, and only set the hook when the BIG THUMP
happens, you get keepers. In order to feel what is happening with
your rig, you HAVE to have spectra/braided line and a quality graphite
rod.

Again I do not use J hooks with bait, just big circle hooks, in big baits. I
do not ever jig big Irons on the bottom, that just kills little fish.

I will be fishing this Sunday in South LJ. I will be launching from Big Rock
around 6:30 - 7. Big Rock beach access is near the end of Winamar St in
La Jolla.

The winds will be light and the surf will be flat.

roby
10-13-2011, 08:00 PM
If you used a 7/0 circle hook, a big bait, a high modulus graphite rod and
200 feet of no stretch spectra/braid and only tighten up when you feel a
big headshake bite, you wouldn't catch little ones.

If you fish the 2 oz plastics, and only set the hook when the BIG THUMP
happens, you get keepers. In order to feel what is happening with
your rig, you HAVE to have spectra/braided line and a quality graphite
rod.Great info...thanks for sharing.

I do not ever jig big Irons on the bottom, that just kills little fish. If you don't mind, can you elaborate on the above statement. When I use jigs for rockfish I typically get bigger sized rockfish...

blackcloud9
10-13-2011, 11:15 PM
Great info...thanks for sharing.

If you don't mind, can you elaborate on the above statement. When I use jigs for rockfish I typically get bigger sized rockfish...

Thanks for the comment Roby. Great point.

My question would be: do you get ONLY bigger sized rockfish on the iron?

If so, keep at it! :reel:

I'm sure others will agree that the La Jolla area seems to be chock full of
smaller/baby rockfish schools - which I work hard to avoid catching. My
tackle preferences are focused on NOT catching 'whatever bites', but,
attempting to have patience until a larger model finds my offering.

So, while jigs can be very effective down deep, I'm sure everyone has
seen the four inch rockfish that get impaled on treble hooks of the 7-inch
irons. I have seen too many. Sometimes through the eyes, or snagged in
the stomach or gills. This is caused by using the usual indiscriminate
'jigging' action on the iron near the bottom. The same happens with using
J hooks and constant hooksets at every nibble.

If you are fishing someplace like Mexico: Colonet or San Martin on a 1.5
day trip where even the smaller fish are two pound class, then it can be
worthwhile. And sometimes you hit a rock locally where they are all good
sized fish and you're home free to fish whatever.

To summarize, I'm voluntarily limiting myself to eliminate the smaller
bycatch as much as possible. Since I prefer to use smaller, lighter reels
and rods for 'sport' anyway, its not the right tackle to fish a big iron.
Megabaits can be great, but again I'd be catching 'whatever bites' ...
big or small.

Hope that helps.

dwntwnall4u
10-14-2011, 01:00 AM
Thank you very much for you great informative videos. What kind of set-up do you use, if you don't mind?

da22y
10-14-2011, 06:15 AM
Great info !
I am buying size 7 circle hook to avoid baby fish today....

Thanks

blackcloud9
10-16-2011, 06:06 PM
@dwntwnall4u
I use basically a dropper loop rig with a 4 oz weight, depending on the
amount of current.

Today, I hit up an old favorite rock for nine La Jolla style cookie cutter
Reds, since I already had a big Treefish in the bag. Three miles offshore in
15 mph of wind. Gotta love the mirage drive out there.

Also got a bunch of macks for bug bait.

I'm working on the video, but its pretty bland and I had to go with medium
sized rod and more weight due to the current and wind conditions and was
fishing over 150 feet deep. Fishfinder and GPS are crucial in this type of
fishing.



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yaksailor
10-17-2011, 09:48 AM
Nice! :luxhello:

Not sure about the sheepshead, but the rockfish are definitely not trash to me. The browns and shallow water RF seem to have even clearer, white meat compared to the vermillion, IMHO. More fun and less winding, too.