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lowprofile
01-03-2012, 04:54 PM
just a figurative question...:D

who would be willing to chase Mako's off the yak?

open water, high cap. reel with 40lb mono, pulleys at bow and stern for tail and gill ropes?

would actually like to get a small group together to do something like this. but i know not many would be up for it.

Devildawgjj
01-03-2012, 05:11 PM
I'm in.... But I'm certainly not making the arduous attempt of paddling out to >500 ft.:paddleersmilie::D

GregAndrew
01-03-2012, 05:14 PM
They show up around LJ sometimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArcn-uerjo

Rav3n805
01-03-2012, 05:22 PM
hmm...My best mako was only 150lbs off a boat, never tried for them on the yak , could be interesting only thing is a chum slick off the yak could get hairy... They are one bad ass shark can only imagine the sled ride you would get out of a solid fish! How do you plan to target them?

james92026
01-03-2012, 07:12 PM
Not to be an alarmist, but you guys are nuts! I recently read the stats on number of unprovoked shark attacks reported off CA Coast. 2010 7, 2009 9, with 79 worldwide;. One near Malibu, lifted girl and kayak several feet in the air, with her coming down feet first on to the GW's shoulder and they both went different directions. then there was the Mission Beach closure last year, the surfer bit in half a couple years ago. Nothing new here, and undoubtedly many of you know more than I about it, but it did give me pause for thought.




hmm...My best mako was only 150lbs off a boat, never tried for them on the yak , could be interesting only thing is a chum slick off the yak could get hairy... They are one bad ass shark can only imagine the sled ride you would get out of a solid fish! How do you plan to target them?

oneyedeer
01-03-2012, 07:42 PM
lol you guys planning to file tax early this year?

fish doctor
01-03-2012, 08:07 PM
hunting makos is not for the weak of heart. threshers are bad enough with there tail slaps but a mako.....
they will try to bite you
they will try and jump in your lap
they will pull you out to sea
they do not give up
they will bite your yak if you have a chum slick
you must use a steel leader at least 8ft long
my list can go on but you get the idea
even a small 60 pounder will chew up your gear when they get close and are pissed off
my boat has many teeth marks in the fiberglass and swimstep

fish doctor
01-03-2012, 08:10 PM
here is a picture of a 150lber

wade
01-03-2012, 08:20 PM
Ready & willing to target & assist any day m8...
:reel:

Baby Mako HookShot..
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/635/hook_shot.jpg

&

Baby Mako Release..BYE BYE PAC-MAN!!!!!!!!:the_finger:
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/635/mako_release.jpg

lowprofile
01-03-2012, 08:26 PM
i knew i liked you guys!

im going to scout my old Mako grounds here in Oside this weekend. if nothing then ill try a few other areas until I, or anyone else, finds a good spot.San O might be a good bet too.

danjor
01-03-2012, 08:51 PM
Sounds fun yet crazy. Gotta love a good grilled mako steak though . Let me know when you plan to head out.

ChefT
01-03-2012, 09:04 PM
Wade...... Is the hobie :reeling:up to it ? or is this a job for the prowler

Mr. Adventure
01-03-2012, 10:47 PM
I'd be down, but I'd want to land a thresher first

Fiskadoro
01-04-2012, 01:43 AM
just a figurative question who would be willing to chase Mako's off the yak?

Damn!!! You guys are Crazy :D


I've considered it. If I did it I'd troll for them not chum.

I'll be straight up. I gather none of you guys actually have much experience fishing for Makos of any size. I've fished them for a few decades and probably have caught and seen hundreds if not thousands of them as they used to be about all I fished for. Personally I wouldn't advise fishing for them unless you really know what your doing.

I'm also lucky enough to know some of the best shark fisherman In California, a few IGFA record holders, as well as many of the local shark guru's (you know the guys who right the books on them as well as study their behavior). Over the years we've compared a few notes so to speak and this topic has come up. For a while I was considering personally fishing them from a kayak just to set some kind of crazy kayak record. You know like 200 to 300 pound Mako from a kayak, the only one of that size that's ever been taken kind of thing. Well the unanimous verdict has always been "Don't be crazy!! Don't do it!!!"

I'm pretty experienced with them, and I think I could do it and even do it relatively safely, but I'll be honest... it's probably just super dangerous if your dealing with anything other then small pups.

The bottom line is good sized mako's can kill you.

I mean I don't know anyone who's been seriously injured while fishing T sharks but if I remember correctly it was a friend of Archers that got killed when a relatively small Mako under 250 pounds jumped straight into his boat bit his leg and cut the femoral artery. The guy just bleed out on the spot.

Makos are notorious for three things. Erratic behavior, aggressive behavior, and jumping right at the boat. I can't even tell you how many makos' I've seen jump at the rail. They do it all the time. I've seen them glance off T tops, land on top of rails, smack into outboards and just plain bounce off the sides of boats.

Lots of times when you hook them they will swim right up for you completely unafraid, and then freak out right in your face.

A couple years back I was fishing off Oceanside working paddies for yellows when a 300 pounder came up. Just for fun I tried to see if I could get it to eat an Iron. It chased it several times then got it at the end of the third cast about ten feet off the side of the boat coming straight at us. When I set the hook it went ballistic jumped completely out of the water maybe ten feet in the air, glanced off the T top and then landed back in the water well in front of the bow, snapping off the jig in the process. I was just glad it didn't land in the boat. Pulling that Iron in as fast as I could teasing the thing... Well... like what was I thinking.. It could of just as easily jumped right in the boat after it.

My buddy M was fishing off SMB shark chumming for makos when he hooked a good one. It initially stayed down and wasn't fighting hard. Didn't take an drag didn't go anywhere . He just winched right over till it was right under the boat but then he couldn't get it to come up. It stayed deep and they couldn't see it. It was right there straight down and after about fifteen minutes he really put the wood to it cinching up the drag and giving it all he could. All of a sudden the line went slack and a ten to twelve feet of Mako maybe a 1000+ pounds came right straight up right next to his boat and flew up so high into the air that saltwater off it's back fell like rain all over his cockpit. It temporarily blinded him with salt as he was looking up at it up in the air. He said when it laded right next to the boat it felt like a bomb went off. He initially thought it hit the boat, but couldn't find any marks later. The pressure wave actually pushed the boat sideways several feet, and spun it around. M's a veteran sharker, I fished for them with him for years and he's one of the best I know. He said that shark didn't even take any line, just sunk right back down and sat under the boat again. He said after about fifteen more minutes of it sitting there he got freaked out and cut it off. Personally I would of throttled up the boat, got some distance and made it fight but he said he was too unnerved after that jump to keep fishing, and actually stowed his gear and went home.

Makos often attack boats, especially when chumming. They are known for it. Look online and you'll find stories from all over the globe where they have hit boats or grabbed ouboards even when people were under power. Big male Mako's can be super aggressive. I think it was Sam Bass that used to tell the story about a big male he hooked in the Cat channel that attacked his boat numerous times and actually damaged his outboard. Personally I've had them chew up downrigger balls and hit outboards while trolling, and seen them kill swords as big as they are..

All that said if I was going to fish for them this is how I'd do it. :D

First off you do not want to chum. If you chum you never know what's coming up the chum line. A 500+ pound Mako or White comes up that chumline they are going to F-up your kayak trying to figure out where that chum is coming from. Makos routinely chew on your boat outboards or anything that's in the water when you're chumming. Mako teeth are needle sharp. If they chew on your yak it's going to leak.

Gear wise you want to fish thirty or forty on a reel that holds a minimum of 400 yards. I prefer 450 yards as decent Mako can strip 400 yards of forty in less then a minute or two. Sometimes they don't go anywhere other times they take off like a freight train.

Trolling you can either slow troll live macks, skirted dead macks (orange yellow pink or red skirts) wieghted down on the termocline, or you can troll purple CDMAG18 or CDMAG22 Rapalas. Any color rapala will work but Purple get's bit the most. Purple get's bit by Makos so much so I hardly ever troll them for anything other then Mako's. Even offshore on the tuna grounds if you put one in the water your just asking for it.

Bait let them run, skirted bait let them run a long ways. When you get picked up leave the rod in the holder and start paddling as fast as you can away from the shark count to 10 or twenty then throw it in gear and keep paddling. With Rapalla's same thing except you start with a healthy drag set, but once you are bit you want to paddle away from the shark.

There are several reasons why. First Mako jaws are tough so you really want to drive the hook in deep to keep them from throwing it while jumping.

Additionally Makos tend to act the most crazy in the first few minutes of the fight. When trolling from a boat we get around this by throttling up and pulling away from the shark. I like to keep going until they have run at least a hundred yards of line of the reel. This keeps the line super tight the first minutes of the fight and also get's them well away from the boat so they are less likely to cause you issues.

You do not want these sharks close to you while they are green. You want to fight them out in away from you then take them when they are tired boatside. With Kayaking I'd do the same thing. Paddle like hell until they have a good hundred yards of the reel then let them tire themselves out at a distance.

Ultimately I'd say that the most dangerous aspect of fishing Makos from a yak is not that they might damage the yak but that they could actually injure you by jumping right into your body and as a result cut you up.

Look at the teeth on this Mako shark.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/gallery/files/4/3/0/mako2f.jpg

That's a relatively small one but see how those needle sharp teeth on the lower jaw face forward, even if a shark like that doesn't bite you, if he jumps into you and his mouth is even barely open you are going to get seriously cut up.

I've experienced this first hand. I've never actually been bitten by a Mako, but I have received numerous cuts where makos have lunged or jumped at leader and one or more of their teeth caught some exposed skin. To get around this when fishing for Makos we wear welding cloves for leadering.

If I was kayaking for makos I'd probably not only wear leather gloves, but I'd also wear some kind of old heavy leather biker style jacket under my vest as well. That way if I got a body shot, I might loose a rib or two but I wouldn't end up bleeding to death from lacerations, or I wouldn't be as freaked out about putting up an arm to protect my face.

Speaking of facials... If you gaff them in the head with a fixed gaff like you would do with a tuna or yellow they will jump right in your face. Don't do it.

You always want gaff makos behind the dorsal in the tail, and you don't want to use a fixed gaff, but instead a flygaff because if you use a fixed gaff a decent mako will either pull you over or rip the gaff out of your hand.

What I would do is rig a flygaff with a six foot rope connected to a float or small buoy, that is then is connected to a twenty foot rope tied off to the yak. Pull the shark up, gaff it in the tail then let it swim off pulling the float well away from you. Then if it jumps it's not on top of you you, so you can just sit back and wait for it to kill itself trying to pull the float under and your kayak around.

When you think it's dead pull the flygaff rope up so it's are hanging alongside tail right next to you. Take a J gaff gaff them in the head and pull it's head up enough that it's lying parallel to the kayak head pointing away from you. Then take a sharp fillet knife stab it in the back behind the gills deep as the blade will go. The deal is you want to stab it in angled to one side then cut across to the other side severing the spinal cord. Then even if it's not dead it can't move or jump. After that just keep your fingers out of it's moth for an hour or so. They are not T sharks. You be amazed how long they live after you think they look dead.


That's my take..take it or leave it.

Jim

jorluivil
01-04-2012, 02:15 AM
That's my take..take it or leave it.

Jim


As always....a very insightful, informative, instructive and educational answer from Mr Jim Day:D

Kahouna
01-04-2012, 04:23 AM
I was sooo ready to type in a "YES", then I read what the good Mr. Day posted. Now.... IF it was possible to just target leeetle guys. Well, just keep me in mind when you decide to form a yak armada out of O'side. I'll at least have the event on a gropro.

Fiskadoro
01-04-2012, 04:47 AM
....my boat has many teeth marks in the fiberglass and swimstep

Hey I think I know that boat. You launch out of MDR, right?

-scallywag-
01-04-2012, 06:46 AM
wait till spring/summer on the warm water years.....

I've had the dis-pleasure of hooking a few from the yak....nothing even over 100.lbs.

I promise no matter how tough and ready you think you are sitting 6" off the water on a 30"wide piece of plastic ,when you set the hook on one of those sharks and the line goes slack while it charges your yak, leaping into the air, hearing the snaggle tooth jaws snap, snap, snap while airborn, you can even see its dark eyes locked on your neck as it charges closer....you'll quickly realize why a big mako hasn't been taken from a kayak.

good advise from jim...use lotsa line on the reel, troll the baits REALLY far back, and if you get bit paddle like a mo'fo'.....then maybe flying gaffs, tail rope/bouy....shotgun?

be safe

mtnbykr2
01-04-2012, 07:08 AM
Well class,
I think everyone has had excellent input and insight,
and the information provided by the fisherman that have experienced
such a feat is something that should be kept in mind...
maybe a support boat trip...with a spotter that is an excellent shot....you know just in case of emergency....
:reel:

Aaron&Julie
01-04-2012, 07:14 AM
I've thought about it. Julie and I have even hooked, and had 50lbers brought alongside our yaks, once actually considering keeping one (they do taste great). But, then our brains kicked in. Something about the way those makos were grinning and laughing at us, made us wiser. A huge good luck to any kayaker who dares, even 50lbers. I just hope you come back alive and with everything attached.
Aaron

fish doctor
01-04-2012, 07:48 AM
yes jim you have seen my boat
i fished with larry for years targeting makos
once these guys see what even a small mako can do boatside they will figure out makos are a bad idea out of a yak
my largest i ever kept was 250 and it took over an hour to land on my 23ft center console on 60lb line
it also took four hours to clean and package
we only keep one a year now and males only with a max of 150lb weight

fish doctor
01-04-2012, 07:51 AM
maybe a mothership trip could work
let them hook one on the yak get towed around for an hour or two and then have them tranfer to the support ship for the scary end game..

William Novotny
01-04-2012, 08:10 AM
You always have to ask yourself "whats the worst that could happen?" Sure you could get pulled out to sea and be chewed up by a 400lb mako, but you could also get crushed by a falling tree while sitting in your car at a red light like the woman in irvine. I think the mako would make for a cooler topic at my eulogy

Siebler
01-04-2012, 08:58 AM
Ive said for a long time I would do it. I dont have near as much experience as Jim or some of the others but I have dealt with a good amount of mako's on boats. They are pretty crazy fish and I too have seen them at sizes well over 1000lbs.

Been trying 10 years now for my thresher. this year I want that milestone gone. Even in the most wide open T bites I seem to pull out YT. Most would say this is a good trade but its been way too long of my trying for Mr. T.

In short, if we got experienced guys together id be in. Probably wouldnt paddle my 160 and would go for the Ride 135 but either way im in.

ashmoz
01-04-2012, 09:00 AM
our baby Mako in La Jolla.. Fun stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQo4SJF6Wjc

:cheers1:

JohnnyCope
01-04-2012, 10:31 AM
You guys are nuts! Were can I sign up !

Mr. Adventure
01-04-2012, 10:57 AM
Yeah, I really need to get a thresher under my belt. How can I NOT catch a mako for now ;)

WahooUSMA
01-04-2012, 05:36 PM
just a figurative question...:D

who would be willing to chase Mako's off the yak?

open water, high cap. reel with 40lb mono, pulleys at bow and stern for tail and gill ropes?

would actually like to get a small group together to do something like this. but i know not many would be up for it.


Why not try feeding the Mako's too, ....bet they will eat right out of your leg or legs!

Yeah, you go right ahead.....let me know how it goes. Make sure to post your results upon your return, if you still have fingers to type with.

Seriously, a T is tough enough, we definitely do not want to hear about you guys on the news.

Drake
01-04-2012, 05:54 PM
Haven't read through the whole post, but it keeps coming up chumming is a bad idea from the kayak. Call me crazy, or maybe just a thinker.... but what would be so wrong with floating the chum on something like an achor bouy or another sort of float, safe distance away from the kayak but close enough to be within effective range? That way you're not slicking to the kayak, but your bait is swimming in it....

just sayin'

mtnbykr2
01-05-2012, 06:53 AM
Haven't read through the whole post, but it keeps coming up chumming is a bad idea from the kayak. Call me crazy, or maybe just a thinker.... but what would be so wrong with floating the chum on something like an achor bouy or another sort of float, safe distance away from the kayak but close enough to be within effective range? That way you're not slicking to the kayak, but your bait is swimming in it....

just sayin'
I used to fish Blue sharks off of Anacapa, we would float frozen 15 lbs blocks of chum in burlap and plastic containers, off the side of a 33 foot sport boat, I have seen 12-15 footers come up and rip it off in one foul swoop...a kayak would have just gone down with it...no thanks...I don't think that is a good idea

Devildawgjj
01-05-2012, 07:09 AM
My neighbor and I (on his boat) last summer.....Cummin' for Mako's and all we got was this little guy. :rolleyes:

My only reserve is....Do I bring the 870 or the .44. :D

Most of you say we're crazy for even contemplating it, but have you ever driven on the 101/405 interchange.....

lbsurf2ca
01-05-2012, 07:13 AM
Those things are pretty damn wild when hooked. They jump super close to your boat as well. Good way to flip.

If you guys do decide to do it. Hit me up i'll shoot video

Drake
01-05-2012, 10:40 AM
I used to fish Blue sharks off of Anacapa, we would float frozen 15 lbs blocks of chum in burlap and plastic containers, off the side of a 33 foot sport boat, I have seen 12-15 footers come up and rip it off in one foul swoop...a kayak would have just gone down with it...no thanks...I don't think that is a good idea

Im saying you float a buoy 30-50 yards behind your yak, chum attached to the buoy by 15-20lb mono and if a shark strikes your chum it'll break free.... you're safely in your kayak. If your not trolling you don't even need to tether the buoy to your kayak

steveooo
01-05-2012, 10:51 AM
My neighbor and I (on his boat) last summer.....Cummin' for Mako's

That's an interesting way to get fish to the boat. :biggrinjester:

:puke:

Drake
01-05-2012, 10:58 AM
That's an interesting way to get fish to the boat. :biggrinjester:

:puke:

Ziinngg!

bus kid
01-05-2012, 11:04 AM
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Devildawgjj
01-05-2012, 11:13 AM
That's an interesting way to get fish to the boat. :biggrinjester:

:puke:

LOL!! Yeah, I guess that's why he was so small....;) You know what I mean though.

That damn H key sure has been sticky lately. :eek::D

mtnbykr2
01-05-2012, 11:14 AM
Im saying you float a buoy 30-50 yards behind your yak, chum attached to the buoy by 15-20lb mono and if a shark strikes your chum it'll break free.... you're safely in your kayak. If your not trolling you don't even need to tether the buoy to your kayak

Don't get me wrong, I would and have targeted shark on the yak, I am always up for a sliegh ride, I just think makos may be better caught from a sturdier platform...alittle farther off the water...lol but I am up for it...with back up...support boat, big gun...etc...:reel:

WahooUSMA
01-05-2012, 02:24 PM
Don't get me wrong, I would and have targeted shark on the yak, I am always up for a sliegh ride, I just think makos may be better caught from a sturdier platform...alittle farther off the water...lol but I am up for it...with back up...support boat, big gun...etc...:reel:

If I am available, I'll bring the boat.....let me know!

coxtanker421
01-05-2012, 03:31 PM
i have said yes to a lot of things. this one i am staying out of. i do not mind filming. :o

lowprofile
01-05-2012, 04:57 PM
the thing about chumming of the yak is.... i WONT do it. even just a sports bottle with fish oil to get the bait going. we used to fish sharks alot. and it was alot of dead baiting with large mackerel and chunks of Bones under ballons and a Chum bucket over the side. to many time was the boat rocked by a shark (especially blues) attacking the chum bucket. my prefered method for this would be to troll two mackerel. one at the surface with a purple and black squid skirt and the other down 40 or more feet with a bright orange and red skirt or pink and blue.

the biggest mako i've personally landed was just over 6ft. no breath taker or record breaker but it was fun. caught and landed my first when i was 6. a 5 fter out of oceanside on the troll with a 8/0 and 60lb mono. yes i hooked and fought the fish. my dad gaffed it at the side of the boat.

for a shark (blues or makos) as long as its around 6ft or smaller is doable on the yak no problem. anything around 7ft would require help and an 8fter or more we'd be lucky to survive.

bus kid
01-05-2012, 08:37 PM
If I am available, I'll bring the boat.....let me know!

When your Available let me know I'll bring the kayak.:D

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2012, 09:03 PM
Like I said, Julie and my brain prevailed when we had just small makos hooked off of La Jolla.
Even with a gun, assuming that the gun killed it completely, is there a kayaker willing to do this alone?
OK. Now, that you've got company, what is the other person going to do for you when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore.
It's not an impossible feat from the kayak, but who really needs to prove their manhood that way?
Don't be stupid. I too, don't want to read about your results, bad (most likely) or good.

silverbullet
01-06-2012, 09:19 AM
....when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore.......

LMAO.... I picked up a Soup-fin that nearly did just that to me...I was working on carefully getting my rig back and he gave a kick... nearly came teeth first into my lap. My reaction was to pull the line back and out holding him away from my jewels.

After I stopped screaming like a girl (not really but it was scary) many jokes about girls with bad teeth came to mind. (Ie: apple test)

I wouldn't recommend targeting aggressive sharks unless you are prepared and if prepared you may still get hurt. We used to shoot big fish in AK before bringing them aboard so they would not smash up the boat... seems harder to do from a YAK....

Definately post pictures here and at Failblog. :D
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/epic-win-photos-win-high-five-win.jpg

Fiskadoro
01-06-2012, 10:49 AM
OK. Now, that you've got company, what is the other person going to do for you when that mako wants to impress you with his ability to land on your kayak, eat your nuts, and tell you he doesn't want to play anymore......


Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

Say you're with a group of kayakers, fishing on a sit on top yak, and a hooked Mako jumps right into you open mouthed and rips through an arm or leg right down to the bone severing vital arteries and tendons. Well I guess the good news is you'll have someone to tow you in, but it's not going to stop you from bleeding to death before they get you in or before someone can get out there to help you. Fishing in a crowd is not going to make it any safer.

Here's a few vids...

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That's just a small one but notice how it comes right towards the boat skimming and jumping out of the water. A boats big enough that it can see and then avoid it but a kayak is not going to scare it off.

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That's a decent fish, and a classic hookup and mako video. Go to 2 minutes and see what happens when they hook it. Though it initially takes off and runs out to maybe seventy five yards it then comes right back and almost jumps into the boat. Once again the boat is big enough to scare it off but a yak to that size mako is nothing. Look how high it's going into the air. If a shark that size landed on top of you after one of those jumps even closed mouth it would break bones, severely injure you and probably completely destroy your yak.

Look how many times he jumps in the 60 seconds they have him on. 12 times averaging maybe ten feet up in the air each time and he covers a lot of ground while doing it. Now imagine fishing in a crowd of sit on tops kayaks. Not only would you be at risk of getting jumped on, but anyone in the crowd might get hit and he moves so fast and so erratically that there is no way to predict where he's going or get out of his way.

Like I said I've fished a lot of Makos and I have fished sharks in general since I was a kid. Any other sharks Bulls, Tigers, even Hammerheads would not be a big deal to catch from a yak, but Makos because they can and often do act so crazy would be dangerous to hunt from a kayak, especially a sit on top where your body is completely unprotected and exposed.

I mean I'm not adverse to taking risk. I fish small boats way offshore and spend most of my time yakking alone. The deal is have to think strategically and there are lines you just do not cross. I've considered fishing Makos from the yak but I'd wear leather and I should of said this earlier but I would also fish them from my sit inside where my legs would be protected.

Still I'd say it's kind of like Russian roulette. The odds are that the first time you pull that trigger your not going to blow your head off but do it enough you will end up getting hurt. I'm sure guys could fish makos on sit on tops, and they probably will not get hurt the first time, but eventually if they kept doing it without some kind of protective gear, and the proper equipment, Id' say the odds will eventually catch up with them and someones going to end up getting seriously injured.

Jim

Fiskadoro
01-06-2012, 11:03 AM
yes jim you have seen my boat i fished with larry for years targeting makos once these guys see what even a small mako can do boatside they will figure out makos are a bad idea out of a yak my largest i ever kept was 250 and it took over an hour to land on my 23ft center console on 60lb line it also took four hours to clean and package
we only keep one a year now and males only with a max of 150lb weight

Cool!! Thought I recognized it.

If you've fished with Larry you have fished with one of the best. Larry is an amazing angler, killer shark fisherman, and just a great guy as well. I hardly ever see him any more since I don't fish MDR like I used to and usually make my own bait when I do.

I hear you on keeping them. Noticed it was a Male, great eating that size, definitely the right shark to target for the table.

About the only sharks I take now are ones that get a hook in the gills or Ts that die online. Last big one I took was a T over 300, and the packaging alone took a good part of a day.

Jim

mtnbykr2
01-06-2012, 12:13 PM
Thanks for sharin the videos...cool stuff, on a boat!...in a yak if one of those took to the sky and landed in your lap would not be pretty...

Luis_Ochoa
01-06-2012, 02:22 PM
here is another one.!!

:reel:

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Fiskadoro
01-06-2012, 03:42 PM
here is another one.!!

Spinner shark.

Those are inshore coastal sharks that feed on small fish and crustaceans. I've caught them. They are a lot like a overgrown blacktip. They do jump but they have small teeth and are not anywhere as dangerous as Makos. I'd feel perfectly comfortable targeting those from a kayak. Imagine a soupfin that jumps, and you get the picture.

Jim

Luis_Ochoa
01-06-2012, 03:56 PM
well it's a jumping spinner shark :D, in one of those jumps if it hit you, somebody is going to be in the water... looking at the other videos :eek: you posted, it's something to think about...

:cheers1:

saludos,

Aaron&Julie
01-06-2012, 04:19 PM
I'd take an errant Spinner knocking me off my 'yak, over a mean-ass Mako, anyday. Jim, whereabouts did you hook your Spinner? Aren't they an East Coast shark?

Fiskadoro
01-06-2012, 04:49 PM
I'd take an errant Spinner knocking me off my 'yak, over a mean-ass Mako, anyday. Jim, whereabouts did you hook your Spinner? Aren't they an East Coast shark?

Gulf.

Grew up in Texas fishing inshore sharks up and down the Gulf coast. Spinners are not as common as blacktips but I've got them at both North and South Padre Island.

I've always been nuts about catching big fish and sharks were about the biggest thing we could catch when I was a kid without a boat. I could tell you some stories. I saw some big sharks caught off Padre in the late seventies.

Jim

T Bone
01-06-2012, 06:56 PM
I won the Flyfishing for Mako's Trip with Conway Bowman at the raffle for the SMMT in 2010.I was going to sell the trip(Not into flyfishing)but then decided to go and book it.I called in July but he was booked through the year.He said to call and book for this year,so I have that to look forward too.Catch and release only.

My biggest mako is only a gup of about 25# that I released.

I say what the hell,lets just chum off San O and accidentally hook up to mighty whitey :D

yaky yak
01-06-2012, 08:19 PM
I caught several T-sharks, I think they look like puppy dogs in the water. Once I was fishing for rockfish over the canyon, I was using those rock cod flys tipped with squid, and a big heavy jig on the end to get it to the depths. I was re- baiting the several fly hooks, and the jig was dangling off the side of my prowler.
Out of nowhere a Small Mako hit the jig and went crazy. I had the drag pretty tight and this caused the Mako when he jumped to fly into the yak. It was happening so quick and so much mayham my brain couldn't register what was going on. Several times I had to deflect the shark with my paddle as he flew into my face. The rod was still in the holder all this time. I finely had the piece of mind to loosing the drag so the fish would get a way from the yak. I fought him for a while and when he was nexted to me in the water i could see this wasn't no puppy dog, it looked mean. I towed him around not knowing how to get him in the kayak. Out of nowhere Darkhorse showed up and helped me gaff him. Two gaffs to the head. The embarrassing part of this tale is the shark was less then 50 lbs(OK 35lbs).
I often wonder what would of happened if on of those hooks had went in my hand. I had the last laugh as I bar b qued him the next night.
Do I want to go out and target a 250lber from a kayak? Hell no. I'd rather poke a polar bear with a short stick.

fish doctor
01-06-2012, 08:51 PM
i think you guys should try catching one from a boat first to get a real understanding of what your dealing with.
these fish are not anything like a tresher or blue. they are totally unpredictable and quite dangerous.
and once gaffed they are not done. they are a high risk until the spinal cord is cut and the head is overboard

lowprofile
01-06-2012, 08:52 PM
I won the Flyfishing for Mako's Trip with Conway Bowman at the raffle for the SMMT in 2010.I was going to sell the trip(Not into flyfishing)but then decided to go and book it.I called in July but he was booked through the year.He said to call and book for this year,so I have that to look forward too.Catch and release only.

My biggest mako is only a gup of about 25# that I released.

I say what the hell,lets just chum off San O and accidentally hook up to mighty whitey :D

if i didnt find anything in a couple trips i was going to try to enlist the help of Conway and/or Michelle. seeing as how they both board fish and he's caught sharks off the board and im sure Michelle has too.

Drake
01-06-2012, 09:26 PM
I forgot to mention I'm a definite yes.

Devildawgjj
01-07-2012, 07:03 AM
i think you guys should try catching one from a boat first to get a real understanding of what your dealing with.


That box has been checked......Now it's yak time!!

Standing by for Mako's :reel: