View Full Version : Best Halibut rig?
Yakin
04-05-2012, 03:18 PM
Been getting screwed on the halibuts lately
I think it is my rig that is screwing me up
Any ideas or advice for trolling for the trash cans
jorluivil
04-05-2012, 03:22 PM
What rig are you using?
I've had success with the drop shot, three way swivel, and Carolina rig.
Yakin
04-05-2012, 03:25 PM
What rig are you using?
I've had success with the drop shot, three way swivel, and Carolina rig.
a three swivel with a 1oz sinker and about 1 foot of leader to my hook
Gigafish
04-05-2012, 03:46 PM
Don't forget the trap hook. Big baits
jorluivil
04-05-2012, 04:06 PM
a three swivel with a 1oz sinker and about 1 foot of leader to my hook
I always use an 8oz sinker, its a lot more weight than the average halibut fisher tends to use but I use it because it will stir up more of the bottom which in turn will attract halibut. Additionally, it will hold the bottom much better when the current is moving against you and I always setup two rods, both with different rigs until I see which one gives me more action. Whatever you do don't be afraid to experiment, try different rigs, leader lengths, mono, floro and different size hooks until you find something that works.
fishingfiend
04-05-2012, 05:25 PM
I made it to the Long Beach Pot of Gold Finals 3 times and I'm a believer in a big bounce ball setup. I haven't gone hali drifting on the yak yet, but when I do the big 8oz plus cannon ball on a 3 way swivel will be my preferred setup with a trap hook of course. There is something to be said about a big 8oz cannonball kicking up a bunch of sand and attracting the right kind of attention. I also believe in using the lightest fluro line possible. I've used as low as 12# fluro for those tough days! The cannonball should be attached with less weighted line to ensure the lead will break off in a hangup situation. Replacing the lead is quicker vs retying the trap rig. Otherwise, pretty much what jorluivil said. :)
taggermike
04-05-2012, 06:20 PM
In shallower water I like a sliding sinker rig. 1/2 to 2oz in front of a swivel then 24" of fluoro and a light wire circle hook that matches bait size. If I'm deeper I like to use a dropper loop set up. I'm with the other posters about using plenty of lead. If you're not on the bottom you're not really hali fishing. I have found that I caught more shorts while using a trap hook. I don't use trap hooks at all, ever, any more. Mike
Yakin
04-05-2012, 06:54 PM
Thanks for the imput guys
I will make sure to bring a list
jorluivil
04-05-2012, 07:07 PM
Replacing the lead is quicker vs retying the trap rig. Otherwise, pretty much what jorluivil said. :)
I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
Billy V
04-05-2012, 10:27 PM
Jim Day has a method of tying a trap rig that will increase your hook ups.
Read his post #24 Trap rig in gear with light drag.
Use 20 lb spectra to tie the trap.
I use 15 lb. fluro and my hook up percentage goes way up.
-I'm not a good enough fisherman to hook up with 30 lb.;)
Read it here --> http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=12442&highlight=halibut&page=2
Yakin
04-06-2012, 08:35 AM
I have only used a trap rig many years ago and didn't have luck with it
how should I set up a trap rig?
ReelNasty
04-06-2012, 11:14 AM
They sell trap hook set ups already set up for like 2 bucks in the shops....use a heavy weight to attract them, have a nice swimming sardine and you should be set..remember though, the big ones most likely aren't going to scrape at the bait. They are going to inhale it. So using a trap hook for the big ones is pretty much useless.but if your in an area with all the little brothers and sisters, a trap hook is definetly a good thing to have. Good luck.
Yakin
04-06-2012, 11:37 AM
They sell trap hook set ups already set up for like 2 bucks in the shops..
where are these shops I don't have many decent places to shop at
since turners went to shit
all I have now it BPS due to me living in running springs
blitzburgh
04-06-2012, 12:35 PM
where are these shops I don't have many decent places to shop at
since turners went to shit
all I have now it BPS due to me living in running springs
They have them at BPS. I think they're around $3.95.
Yakin
04-06-2012, 12:38 PM
In the salt water area or fresh?
seriola_killer
04-06-2012, 03:04 PM
I have only used a trap rig many years ago and didn't have luck with it
how should I set up a trap rig?
Bigger Halibut have zero problem getting themselves hooked without the need for a trap hook. If you're getting raked, it's because of the non-legals that are doing that, and you don't want to catch those anyway. I.M.H.O. trap hooks are vastly overrated and do more harm than good in two ways:
1. The bait doesn't swim as naturally as possible.
2. Shorts get all mangled up when trying to remove the treble.
To me (again, my personal opinion only), the cons outweigh the pros.
jorluivil
04-06-2012, 03:18 PM
Bigger Halibut have zero problem getting themselves hooked without the need for a trap hook. If you're getting raked, it's because of the non-legals that are doing that, and you don't want to catch those anyway. I.M.H.O. trap hooks are vastly overrated and do more harm than good in two ways:
1. The bait doesn't swim as naturally as possible.
Use a longer leader for the trap hook so that it allows more movement. When the bait is lively I can feel it moving around and can see the tip of my rod shake.
2. Shorts get all mangled up when trying to remove the treble.
True.....and you tend to end up with lots of bycatch
To me (again, my personal opinion only), the cons outweigh the pros.
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fishingfiend
04-06-2012, 05:29 PM
I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
Fortunately, I have many 8oz bounce balls collected from back in the day. I hear you though, lead is not cheap anymore. We are on the same page though, stay on the bottom and draw attention to your bait!
The link BillyV provided has great info, the trap hook answer depends on the conditions. If you're getting raked, add a trap. :)
fishingfiend
04-06-2012, 05:32 PM
Hali fishing always reminds me of Spaceballs. This is how you find them.
http://torwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Spaceballs-Comb-Scene-500x330.png
William Novotny
04-07-2012, 08:03 AM
I agree but I would rather loose a circle hook and treble hook before I loose an 8oz sinker.
X2
taggermike
04-07-2012, 11:56 AM
If you want to set up a trap rig you can snell the front hook and then use a perfection loop to attach the back hook. When I worked at the Hubs Hatchery we kept halibut brood stock. I spent years feeding these large fish and noticed that when they wanted to eat, they ate. They would come 10 feet off the bottom and inhale sardines and mackeral. No biting, or mouthing. I've seen halis T-bone a big mack and the bait just folded in half and went down the hatch. I instructed a new employee on how to feed the halibut. I said when you see them come off the bottom you need to drop the bait. She walked away with the feed bucket and walked back with blood running off her hand like 2 minutes later. Her comment was that they moved WAY faster than she ever thought the could. That was a fun injury report. They may have behaved differently in our tanks but they were wild fish. The 3 largest halibt I have ever caught were taken on single circle hooks. Mike
Yakin
04-07-2012, 12:02 PM
She walked away with the feed bucket and walked back with blood running off her hand like 2 minutes later. Her comment was that they moved WAY faster than she ever thought the could. That was a fun injury report.
Now I would laugh my ass off so hard!!
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