Power Pro Braid Line Question

[Yakin]

I have always used mono or floro line never used braid once in my life.
I see a lot of people using Power Braid.
I have always wonder what is the difference between power braid and regular braid?!
What are the advantages and dis advantages to this?
Are they good on spinner gear
or what are they used best for? as in live/dead, iron, plastic, or what?

[jorluivil]

You're going to get a million and one answers about the good and the bad of braid, best answer I can give it to give it a try and see it you like it. I've caught everything from yellowfin to trout on my spectra and have been using it for well over 6 years now. I have it on all my reels, the only thing I use mono for is as backing or as a topshot.

[bus kid]

power pro is waxed, it sticks to its self, JB or Izor is better.
straight braid on all my reels form 20#-65#. cuts thru kelp, and mono on the cattle boats like butter. it might even cut through those new fangled knot-less hooks I keep hearing about. :D

[Yakin]

power pro is waxed, it sticks to its self, JB or Izor is better.
straight braid on all my reels form 20#-65#. cuts thru kelp, and mono on the cattle boats like butter. it might even cut through those new fangled knot-less hooks I keep hearing about. :D
I am actually using Izor right now on my spinners just I keep catching to many fish on this weird fangled hook i got and it keeps taking me into the kelp haha
But is Izor really better because people always tell me I'm stupid for going with 20# Izor on my spinners
Also I put 30# Izor on my penn jigmaster

[gupppy]

I am actually using Izor right now on my spinners just I keep catching to many fish on this weird fangled hook i got and it keeps taking me into the kelp haha
But is Izor really better because people always tell me I'm stupid for going with 20# Izor on my spinners
Also I put 30# Izor on my penn jigmaster


if i'm not mistaken, bus kid isn't talking about izor mono. izor braid or jb braid/hollow core.

[Yakin]

if i'm not mistaken, bus kid isn't talking about izor mono. izor braid or jb braid/hollow core.

see what I mean I don't know sh** about braid haha!

[gupppy]

see what I mean I don't know sh** about braid haha!

here you go, hope it helps: http://www.stripersonline.com/t/387526/braid-vs-mono-pros-and-cons

btw, that discussion is from 2005. there have been a lot of improvements since then, but it's a good starting point.

[Yakin]

here you go, hope it helps: http://www.stripersonline.com/t/387526/braid-vs-mono-pros-and-cons

btw, that discussion is from 2005. there have been a lot of improvements since then, but it's a good starting point.

Thanks gupppy for the thread it does help a lot!
But still looking for more opinions from other kayakers on their views on this!
It is something I have been wanting to do and been on the fence about for a while
I have been thinking about putting braid on my shamino baitrunner
and then running a mono leader off of it!
If I can fit 30# mono on a reel what is an advised weight for braid to spool on it?

[gupppy]

Thanks gupppy for the thread it does help a lot!
But still looking for more opinions from other kayakers on their views on this!
It is something I have been wanting to do and been on the fence about for a while
I have been thinking about putting braid on my shamino baitrunner
and then running a mono leader off of it!
If I can fit 30# mono on a reel what is an advised weight for braid to spool on it?

if you're fishing 30# mono, everything else unknown, i'd spool w/ 65# braid + 3ft of 30# flouro.
but that's just me.

you ever go rock fishing? when you're dropping in 200+ ft deep, it's tough to feel the fish with mono. when you have braid + 3' of mono or flouro leader, you can feel when a fish brushes up against the line.

[Deefeesha]

Thanks gupppy for the thread it does help a lot!
But still looking for more opinions from other kayakers on their views on this!
It is something I have been wanting to do and been on the fence about for a while
I have been thinking about putting braid on my shamino baitrunner
and then running a mono leader off of it!
If I can fit 30# mono on a reel what is an advised weight for braid to spool on it?

50-65lb braid with topshot of mono or flouro. I use this combo on all/most of my reels.

[lowprofile]

i've always used Suffix Braid for rockfishing and on small baitcasters.

i was looking to set up a decent kelp cutter rig and Kevin explained it the best. 65lb PowerPro has the body and rigidness to cut through kelp with the least amount of effort (powerpro uses the least amount of weaves in its braid, making it very uneven, unlike other who use 8-10 strands to make a round braid). 50lb and lower tends to dig in to itself easier under the pressure of a tight drag and heavy mono leader to boot.

the real advantages to braid are line capacity, and needing less weight to get down to the bottom in 200+ft of water. i use 50lb braid with 20 or 30lb mono leader and 4oz torpedo all day when going after rockfish and never have a problem. i've tried it with straight 20lb mono and sometimes need 6oz and with 30lb 6-8oz.

it might cost a bit more, but it lasts longer and you dont have to carry as many sinkers on board with you. plus only having to change out leader material or topshot is alot better than respooling every month. i run 300yrds of 50lb braid on my surf reel with 130-150yrds of 30lb mono topshot and have to replace it every 3 or 4 trips when the conditions are rough or fishing close to structure. its alot more cost effective and less hassle in the long run.

[lowprofile]

If I can fit 30# mono on a reel what is an advised weight for braid to spool on it?

doesnt matter. if your running 30lb top shot or leaders then use 30lb or heavier braid. 50lb+ has better body and can usually fill a reel with a 300yrds filler spool. its key to run lighter mono or floro leader. once braid snaps the integrity of all the line that was out on that fish is gone.

[William Novotny]

No stretch means more sensitivity and better hooksets when long amounts of line are in the water. More line capacity. less drag in the water means you line drifts less. Also easier to tie once you get the hang of it imho. Cons, can be a drag if you nest up really good, you need to make sure you have braid friendly guides on your rods so it doesn't eat into them, and if you think your gonna grab braid and manhandle it your gonna cut your hand off. Its happened to me twice. Now I fish with my feet.

[William Novotny]

doesnt matter. if your running 30lb top shot or leaders then use 30lb or heavier braid. 50lb+ has better body and can usually fill a reel with a 300yrds filler spool. its key to run lighter mono or floro leader. once braid snaps the integrity of all the line that was out on that fish is gone.

Did not know that, thanks for the info

[smithers]

doesnt matter. if your running 30lb top shot or leaders then use 30lb or heavier braid. 50lb+ has better body and can usually fill a reel with a 300yrds filler spool. its key to run lighter mono or floro leader. once braid snaps the integrity of all the line that was out on that fish is gone.

I can understand wanting to trim a few feet near the break for this reason, but I'm having trouble believing that line say 50 yards from a breakoff has been weakened.

Is there data or any other evidence to back this claim?

Thanks.


Also, for the OP:

Somewhere I've got a link on real vs. rated braid strength; some Swede I think has an ongoing project to test them. Good brands like Jerry Brown and PP Hollow Ace (not regular Power Pro) consistently break higher than their rated strength.
This is why it should be OK to fish 30lb topshot on top of 30lb braid, but the other thing to keep in mind is how poorly braid deals with abrasion.
Sure, your brand new 30lb line might break at 45lbs, but once you've fished it a few times and scraped agaisnt a boat or some rocks you might lose half that without even knowing.
I think this is why good brands underrate breaking strength; your line is only new once, and even if you inspect your line you are going to miss some of the damage that slowly occurs over time. (For this reason I'd rather spool with 50 if planning to fish 30)

[MarkT]

While I use 30# spectra with 20# mono I prefer to use 50/65/80 spectra. If nothing else it's easier to tie knots in the 50+ spectra than the really thin stuff. Decide how much line you want on the reel (~300yds?) together with the size/length of mono and use the biggest spectra that will give you that capacity.

[kayakhunter]

Dacron.

[bigbarrels]

Just loaded some Power Pro 65 on this bad boy:D Cant wait to hook into a yellowtail or yellowfin with this set up on a Shimano Terez Waxwing (heavy). Test running it manana:reel:

http://abugarcia.com/products/reels/low-profile-baitcast-reels/revo/revo-toro-winch

[seriola_killer]

Offshore I prefer JB or Izor. Inshore I prefer Power Pro. It's flatter and IMHO it's design lends itself to cutting kelp better. 50# will do the trick but 65# does better. It will get chewed up while cutting so that's why I like the 65#.

[roadx]

mono/fluoro sucks i use as little as possible. braid rules and that's that :D

[William Novotny]

mono/fluoro sucks i use as little as possible. braid rules and that's that :D

I cant argue with that

[taggermike]

I started out using braid as a back under mono. I then tried it out on a few baitcasters I use in the bay with the reel filled up and 24" leader of fluoro. Loved it, the no stretch increased sensitivity greatly. The suble bites are not suble any more. I then put braid on my heavier bait rods that I use in LJ. Loved it there too. Kelp cutting, no stretch bootom fishing, great contact with a live bait. I still use straight mono on my jig rods. I might try throwing the surface iron on braid but with a softer rod or a light drag. Mike

[Yakin]

Ok then I'm settled on putting braid on my shimano baitrunner but how should I do it and with what type of line?
Also how should i do the same on my penn jig master old school?

[gupppy]

Ok then I'm settled on putting braid on my shimano baitrunner but how should I do it and with what type of line?
Also how should i do the same on my penn jig master old school?

tons of information/articles written on how to spool a spinner with braid. some say to use mono or tape (electrical) on the spool to prevent the braid from slipping, but then jerry brown says it's unnecessary. to each their own.
wouldn't do it on the penn. the thin braid will get caught in the sideplates easily.

[lowprofile]

Ok then I'm settled on putting braid on my shimano baitrunner but how should I do it and with what type of line?
Also how should i do the same on my penn jig master old school?

I have 65 on my jm. Soak it and wind it on as tight as you can laying it across the spool uneven so when you pull on the drag it doesn't dig in.

[Yakin]

I have 65 on my jm. Soak it and wind it on as tight as you can laying it across the spool uneven so when you pull on the drag it doesn't dig in.

I was going to have bps or some local tackle shop do it for me

[Drake]

I didn't read through this whole post, so forgive me if these point have already been made.

1) Don't go for cheap braid like powerpro. It fades, fringes and has a lot of memory to it.

You want a nice limp line for spinning gear. It will prevent wind knots much better. Also, got a little heavier than you would think on the line for spinning gear, at least 40. Spinning gear is more prone to sharp angles when winding in and it will tend to cut in to itself under heavy drag pressure.

Don't make the same mistake I made, and think "ok that should be enough line" just to save some money. One day out on the charters in 300+ ft of water and I was uniknotting line on every reel I had. Do it once, do it right.

Also, a thicker line is less prone to cut into your skin. Since spinning rods bend with the line down, if you have a fat cow on and you're holding it by the handle able the reel, you run the risk of the line becoming taught enough to cut you. It's a problem the Shimano Terez and the Trevalas have.

Hope some of this helps. I also go straight braid. I only put floro leader on when I'm targeting WSB or have a dropper loop set up for bottom fish. Well, I don't use flouro on bottom fish because that stuffs expensive. 20lb mono does the trick

[Yakin]

Drake right now I'm running 20lb izor right now on my shimano baitrunner and also was goin to get a local shop to put braid on there for me any good type of brait I should go with since i don't know braid you said more expencive is way better