Wide Open SD Bay Halibut

[KeptMan]

So I used to fish for Salmon in the Great Lakes, and a lure manufacturer (Northern King) was always consistent. For some reason, tackle shops down here don't carry trolling spoons; all the spoons are heavy weight casting spoons. I ended up ordering a few online. These are 1/2-ounce 4.5 inch trolling spoons. The results in the bay were incredible; I have never caught so many Halibut, Angel Sharks and Sand Bass. I can't wait to go try these off of La Jolla for YTs (Australia-Style).

Give it a go guys!

[jorluivil]

I have no luck catching Halibut....can you sell me one or tell me where I can buy one?

[GregAndrew]

You know what they say about pics and BS right?

[KeptMan]

Google "Northern King Spoons." I haven't looked in a while but I think you are being facetious...didn't you jest bag a bunch of them?

I run them off of downriggers but I am sure you could do the same with an eight ounce weigh. The ones with Chartreuse and Green are especially effective.

Cheers,

Craig

[jorluivil]

I haven't looked in a while but I think you are being facetious...didn't you jest bag a bunch of them?


Greg?

[KeptMan]

Your loss,

I cought two going twelve yesterday. Look, I am just trying to share what has worked for me with the group. I don't take pictures unless they are over thirty.

I did get a heck of a lot of shorts but I also managed to donate close to 100-lb of Halibut over the last two days.

[DanaPT]

You know what they say about pics and BS right?

photos please. <label for="rb_iconid_11">http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/images/icons/icon11.gif</label>

100lbs is a lot of dead halibut.

[jorluivil]

photos please. <label for="rb_iconid_11">http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/images/icons/icon11.gif</label>

100lbs is a lot of dead halibut.



especially when you consider that the average legal weighs well under 10lbs, I could be wrong but I believe a 22" hali weighs right around 5lbs.

[slobslayer]

Who are you donating these halibut to? Less fortunate halibut fisherman like myself...

[Aaron&Julie]

Well, this is one way to TRY and sell a product with free advertising on a kayak fishing website. The only problem is you did no research. Everyone here knows how much BS this is, since there are no 100 lb halibut in California, at least there aren't south of San Francisco. BTW, most of us kayak fishermen use our downriggers for swordfish, because they are way deep, much deeper than the s&#@ you're spreading.
Aaron

[mrJB]

Aren't you the guy that doesn't even fish on a kayak and made some half-ass attempt to call me out in the past?

I quote: "Lets stop going all "Red Fisher" on these and if you want to report a weight, use a scale."

Wake the F**k up and stick to sites like BD's.

[Chief Gunner]

Bullshit (also bullcrap) is a common English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) expletive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expletive_attributive) which may be shortened to the euphemism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism) bull or the initialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initialism) B.S. In British English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_English), "bollocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollocks)" is a comparable expletive, although bullshit is commonly used in British English. Its common meaning is to indicate a falsehood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsehood) —a false proposition. Hence something which is "bullshit" is said to be false or intentionally deceptive.<SUP id=cite_ref-0 class=reference>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit#cite_note-0)</SUP> As with many expletives, the term can be used as an interjection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interjection) or as many other parts of speech (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_of_speech), and can carry a wide variety of meanings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_(linguistic)).:p

[radastaff]

halibut arnt picky
sometimes they stack up
sometimes they breed
and are aggressive
big counts in the same spot in the same day
are common
every now and then

if u find them
live bait or swimbaits
will werk just as good
as anything else

pick your poison
find your fish
and dont farm the gaff shot

glad u found them
and had a steller catch
hope u didnt keep more then your limit
for the day



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[KeptMan]

Look, do with the information what you will. I caught 25 yesterday using these spoons. Today wasn't as good on account of all the crap coming into the bay with the south wind. I still managed 5.

I donate some to coworkers but release most. I am looking for my 40+ for the summer.

Cheers,

Craig

[bus kid]

Can I use the knotless hooks with the spoons? :the_finger:

[Pocoloco]

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Old Man in the Sea]

If you have a real honest technique that works and you want to share it that is Excellent - Thanks. That is what this site was probably founded on....Your spoons cost 5 bucks and you can buy online you are not selling them. Frankly all of the complainers should post their best rig/technique for halibut to prove they are not full of hot air...and if you can get a camera next time - everybody loves the pictures...

[Aaron&Julie]

...and if you can get a camera next time - everybody loves the pictures...

The proof is in the pudding, we just haven't seen any pudding.

[jorluivil]

If you have a real honest technique that works and you want to share it that is Excellent - Thanks. That is what this site was probably founded on....Your spoons cost 5 bucks and you can buy online you are not selling them. Frankly all of the complainers should post their best rig/technique for halibut to prove they are not full of hot air...and if you can get a camera next time - everybody loves the pictures...

The proof is in the pudding, we just haven't seen any pudding.


I thought that maybe, just maybe he would have a taken a camera with him the second time.:rolleyes:

[tasteslikechikn54]

I might need a beer to go along all of this POPCORN!!!!!

POPCORN BABY!!!!!
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:D:D

[ful-rac]

All 30#s of it!!!

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/Halibut-1.png

[Baja_Traveler]

And then there's guys like me who don't own a camera they are willing to take into the wet - I gotta get one of those splash proof point & shoots one of these days...

[tasteslikechikn54]

All 30#s of it!!!

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/Halibut-1.png

Ha ha ha ha!!!! LMFAO!!!! That is hilarious. I'm getting an order of those spoons, for sure. What's the website again???

[Fiskadoro]

The proof is in the pudding, we just haven't seen any pudding.

In all fairness.....

Actually he's shown some pudding in the past....
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=12064

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/attachment.php?attachmentid=5319&stc=1&d=1322868650
"I cought this fellow off of the red buoy between Shelter Isl and the Carrier parking lot. He took a Mack + small green skirt and Watermelon dodger off of a downrigger"

He was using a downrigger while skiff trolling in the same area for that fish.

If you can read between the lines he's using various classic Salmon downrigger trolling techniques for halibut. He's not the first to do it, and it does work. It's basically the same idea as bounce balling. I've personally fish similar spoons to the ones he describes and caught Salmon threshers and halibut locally with them.

He may be exaggerating slightly, but trollijng from a skiff you can put a lot of fish on deck if you have them zero'd in and they are in the mood. I've had my 20+ fish days fishing halibut. It's not impossible or unheard of.

I think sometimes people get used to fishing one way in one area and they think that's the only way to fish. May work for them but it's just not true.

Just saying...

Now let the lynching resume :cheers1:

[mtnbykr2]

I don't feel tardy...someone gimme somethin' to write on....:confused:

[Fiskadoro]

So I used to fish for.....


I've got a feeling you actually love and know how to fish. The deal is essentially you are in the wrong place. These are mostly kayak guys that fish only a few basic methods for the fish they catch. They are not interested in things others do that don't apply to their situation.

Think about it a minute. Downriigers with spoons will not work from a kayak. You could bounce ball with the spoons but you'd probably do just as well with flashers and hootchies. Personally I prefer small rapalas bounce balling since they float up when you stop and you can fish more rods without getting hung up but that's another "non-standard method" and pretty irrelevant about now.

Bottom line is your fishing a way they can't fish then saying your catching more fish then they catch. They aren't going to love you for it.


Jim

[maui jim]

My best ever Halibut day is 18 legals in 4 hours..., and I only kept 3, over 32". my super secret spot in the LBC. 3 years ago, in 12 ft of water George :eek: and no trap hook....:rolleyes:
Hit the right day and spot, and the spawn is on ,and it's magic.....It was so fun I took my Uncle Chuck the next morning for another 3 ...:D

My secret bait.... live smelt....:cool: which is FREE!!!!!

[GregAndrew]

Getting carried away on either side of this has nothing but entertainment value. Suggesting that the guy said he gave away (you donate to charity) a 100# Halibut is about as true as suggesting that asking for more proof than a newbies word is the same as some petty jealousy. In this day and age, the proof is in the pictures (I know about Photoshop etc. but the tech guys tend to work those out anyway). To make these kinds of claims and attribute it to a specific product brand, you better have some proof or reputation preceeding you or expect to be grilled.

That some people choose methods tailored less for numbers than for size does not mean that they are unable to ravage fish populations, just that they choose not to. I personally admire Halibut fishermen that take steps to avoid catching short fish. And claims of what used to happen in yesteryear do not necessarily hold any water on what can happen today.

[thien]

For what its worth, I think he meant he gave away about 100lbs of hali meat. Not that he actually caught a 100lb halibut.

[Drake]

Getting carried away on either side of this has nothing but entertainment value. Suggesting that the guy said he gave away (you donate to charity) a 100# Halibut is about as true as suggesting that asking for more proof than a newbies word is the same as some petty jealousy. In this day and age, the proof is in the pictures (I know about Photoshop etc. but the tech guys tend to work those out anyway). To make these kinds of claims and attribute it to a specific product brand, you better have some proof or reputation preceeding you or expect to be grilled.

That some people choose methods tailored less for numbers than for size does not mean that they are unable to ravage fish populations, just that they choose not to. I personally admire Halibut fishermen that take steps to avoid catching short fish. And claims of what used to happen in yesteryear do not necessarily hold any water on what can happen today.

Greg, he didn't say he gave away 100# Halibut, he said he gave away 100#'s WORTH OF Halibut.
Just want to make sure we have the facts down, I'm not defending either side just pointing out the grammatical confusion

[thien]

For what its worth, I think he meant he gave away about 100lbs of hali meat. Not that he actually caught a 100lb halibut.

[StinkyMatt]

What happened to "integrity"?

How about we have enough respect for a man and assume he is a self respecting honest man until he proves otherwise?

The alternative, thinking that everyone is a liar first is a really sucky way to go.



Just because I never had a day like the man described does not mean he did not.


Having said all that, man........please put up some more info I want to learn about this.

[thien]

Yeah, not to long ago a fish report was a fish report. It didn't require pictures or go pro video footage for proof. People just shared want they wanted, and kept to themselves what they didn't.

[Fiskadoro]

For what its worth, I think he meant he gave away about 100lbs of hali meat. Not that he actually caught a 100lb halibut.


Whoa!!!! That's true! But you should never let truth get in the way of a good web lynching.:notworthy:

[Drake]

What happened to "integrity"?

How about we have enough respect for a man and assume he is a self respecting honest man until he proves otherwise?

The alternative, thinking that everyone is a liar first is a really sucky way to go.



Just because I never had a day like the man described does not mean he did not.


Having said all that, man........please put up some more info I want to learn about this.

Well said Matt

Yeah, not to long ago a fish report was a fish report. It didn't require pictures or go pro video footage for proof. People just shared want they wanted, and kept to themselves what they didn't.

I love how the interenet became "pics or it didn't happen"

Whoa!!!! That's true! But you should never let truth get in the way of a good web lynching.:notworthy:

A good internet lynching is always an excuse to grab some popcorn and a beer :cheers1:

[jorluivil]

For what its worth, I think he meant he gave away about 100lbs of hali meat. Not that he actually caught a 100lb halibut.

Yes, that's what he said but even if he did he would have to have caught *at least*:

*20 barely legal hali's
*10 that measured no less than 30inches
*5 that were in the mid to high 30inches
*3 that measured at least 40inches
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You see where I'm going with this? If he caught any of what I listed these spoons should be banned.

Do I catch a lot of hali's? Yes I do. I have proof if anyone needs it.

[DanaPT]

I'm not a hater. Maybe a skeptic.

25 fish... over 100 lbs of Halibut donated...

I'm thinking no photos, 5 daily bag limit. . . .They'd have to be big big fish or it was an incredible 1-3 days of fishing. Either way, we don't have all the facts (probably the intent). Who wants to share their honey hole?

BUT it would have been nice to know that I needed a boat before I spent $1000 on all those lures he was talking about. :eek:

Enough of :boxing_smiley:
More of :cheers1:
We have a KINGS game to watch.:luxhello:

GO KINGS!

[mtnbykr2]

:grouphug: I have never seen Jorge catch a halibut...;)
I have seen his excellent kite catching skills though...

[Chief Gunner]

I guess I thought he was using a downrigger and a spreader rig from a yak...even so dragging spoons low to the bottom is gonna catch all kinds of grass, kelp bits and all the other garbage floating in the bay. I was on the Bay with Darthfisherman Sat and from what I saw where we were at, we were the only one's who caught any fish.

I don't know where he fishes in the bay but I can tell you that I go through bait like crazy and only give plastics & lures a few seconds of play when I feel the bottom wether I'm in a yak or on a boat.... because San Diego bay is dregged out in the center for the Navy ships... which means a narrow, semi deep channel that makes for strong 3-5 knot tidal surges & currents either incoming or outgoing which ='s allot of floating bits. If he's using multiple trebble hooked spoons..Thats just an Eel Grass Salad guaranteed!

I'm not totally against trying something new. I've used the same bright colored poppers used along the gulf coast in Alabama, Florida and Missisippi for Speckled Trout out in the local Kelp beds and had days where the Calicos were just crazy about them....until I lost all the ones I brought back from Pensacola.

I'm not a total doubter but I am pessimistic about this; I have Fished from Maine to here and all the way across the Pacific & Indian Ocean to the Arabian Gulf (courtesy of the World's Finest Navy) and I learned a thing or two along the way...sometimes fish in different areas react to things they have never seen berore in absolutely unexpected ways.

I'll just say that this is just one of those thing's I'll have to see for myself to believe.

Enough of that; PEACE and Tight lines guy's :)

[mrJB]

I'm with George on this...

Besides, I don't think Mr. KeptbyMan fishes from a kayak.

Anyhow, I've got a 100 pounds of halibut in two days right 'ear...
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[Aaron&Julie]

I will retract some of what I said, and apologize for any implication he wasn't being truthful. It just seemed to me he was selling a product, more so by not showing us any photo of any legals he caught. His previous post showed a very impressive 'but (congrats), but it wasn't caught touting what he recently used.
I misread his original post, and do believe he was talking about releasing 100 lbs "worth" of halibut.
Julie and I have had a day or two in the Bay, where we caught 25+ halibut combined using live 'dines, although the legals were about 1 in 10, so many babies were caught. I don't doubt a person can catch 30-40, maybe even more of the small ones, especially using a motorized boat covering much more ground.
As someone noted his technique isn't applicable here, but other methods can be done resembling what he did. A kayaker just can't cover the ground he can in his boat.
Before getting excited about the wide open SD Bay bite going on, let it be known, it's often like that, in particular areas on small 'buts. There are lots of babies throughout the bay and sometimes they stack up.
This is a kayak fishing website though. Keptman, although you don't seem to have a camera you trust out on the water, perhaps your information would be more beneficial to "us guys/gals" here if you showed us a photo of this spoon, and how you rigged it. I doubt downriggers are going to be used by any kayaker, but ball bouncing with your lure may be fruitful for somebody. Thanks.

Aaron

[jorluivil]

I'm with George on this...

Besides, I don't think Mr. KeptbyMan fishes from a kayak.

Anyhow, I've got a 100 pounds of halibut in two days right 'ear...
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http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/attachment.php?attachmentid=6689&d=1339460187


Bahahahahahahaha......time to close this thread! It was just a matter of time before this thread turned gay!!

[Vikingj]

Yes, that's what he said but even if he did he would have to have caught *at least*:

*20 barely legal hali's
*10 that measured no less than 30inches
*5 that were in the mid to high 30inches
*3 that measured at least 40inches
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You see where I'm going with this? If he caught any of what I listed these spoons should be banned.



I've heard that about 45% of a halibut is actually meat. If so, it would take 220lbs of whole halibut to equal 100lbs of meat. That would be more than double the above figures.

[Vikingj]

I'm with George on this...

Besides, I don't think Mr. KeptbyMan fishes from a kayak.

Anyhow, I've got a 100 pounds of halibut in two days right 'ear...
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Looks more like JB-butt to me. Not that I would know....just a guess

[deepdvr]

Do I catch a lot of hali's? Yes I do. I have proof if anyone needs it.

George, are you trying to tell us that you've caught some halis that haven't already been posted on BWE? :eek:

I don't believe it.

[-scallywag-]

Yes, that's what he said but even if he did he would have to have caught *at least*:

*20 barely legal hali's
*10 that measured no less than 30inches
*5 that were in the mid to high 30inches
*3 that measured at least 40inches
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You see where I'm going with this? If he caught any of what I listed these spoons should be banned.

Do I catch a lot of hali's? Yes I do. I have proof if anyone needs it.

:doh:

hahaha I love watching the "housewifes of Cabrillo"....have you guys seen the the hali's being caught along the coast right now? Look at the MDR hali derby results from this weekend.

And yes George there are plenty of boats getting 3 fish over 40"'s...hell we all even know of a guy on this board who's caught over 100lb's in two days....from a kayak!!

[tasteslikechikn54]

Fish off, fish off, fish off!!!! Id say let the two halibut henchmen go at it and well go from there... Ha ha ha.

[ful-rac]

:doh:

hahaha I love watching the "housewifes of Cabrillo"....have you guys seen the the hali's being caught along the coast right now? Look at the MDR hali derby results from this weekend.

And yes George there are plenty of boats getting 3 fish over 40"'s...hell we all even know of a guy on this board who's caught over 100lb's in two days....from a kayak!!


AHHH Gotta love it!!!! :luxhello: Entertainment!!!!!:luxhello:
Actually....it was a 104 pounds in 1 day.....but minor detail...! :cheers1:

Don't take anything personally keptman....were just having fun...! If your really catching what you say then great! good for you!!! As long as your staying within your legal limit :cheers1:! Who cares what anybody else thinks!

Now lets get back to the real Housewifes of cabrillo!!!!

[GregAndrew]

Greg, he didn't say he gave away 100# Halibut, he said he gave away 100#'s WORTH OF Halibut.
Just want to make sure we have the facts down, I'm not defending either side just pointing out the grammatical confusion

I realize that it is a run-on-sentence, but you should read it again cause that is exactly what I said.

[jorluivil]

:doh:

hahaha I love watching the "housewifes of Cabrillo"....have you guys seen the the hali's being caught along the coast right now? Look at the MDR hali derby results from this weekend.

And yes George there are plenty of boats getting 3 fish over 40"'s...hell we all even know of a guy on this board who's caught over 100lb's in two days....from a kayak!!

And I bet you those guys have pictures to prove it just like the guy below has video annnnnnnnd a pic of the scale weight to prove it:rolleyes:

AHHH Gotta love it!!!! :luxhello: Entertainment!!!!!:luxhello:
Actually....it was a 104 pounds in 1 day.....but minor detail...! :cheers1:

Don't take anything personally keptman....were just having fun...! If your really catching what you say then great! good for you!!! As long as your staying within your legal limit :cheers1:! Who cares what anybody else thinks!

Now lets get back to the real Housewifes of cabrillo!!!!

[jorluivil]

George, are you trying to tell us that you've caught some halis that haven't already been posted on BWE? :eek:

I don't believe it.


Surprisingly.....yes

[Fiskadoro]

Look at the MDR hali derby results from this weekend.


Shhhhhhhh.... No fish in SMB!!!!

[Drake]

Getting carried away on either side of this has nothing but entertainment value. Suggesting that the guy said he gave away (you donate to charity) "a" 100# Halibut is about as true as suggesting that asking for more proof than a newbies word is the same as some petty jealousy. .

I realize that it is a run-on-sentence, but you should read it again cause that is exactly what I said.

I did get a heck of a lot of shorts but I also managed to donate close to 100-lb of Halibut over the last two days.

Mr Andrew, the word "of" implies multiple Halibut

If I say I went to the grocery store and bought 10lbs of oranges, did I buy 1 10lb orange, or 10lbs WORTH of oranges.

Sorry, but it does not read like you have interpreted it. In your response you used "a" which I pointed out for you, implying you were under the impression it was 1x 100# Halibut. I'm confused on your defense.

However, I'm not here to get into a debate over grammar. Good day sir.

[jorluivil]

However, I'm not here to get into a debate over grammar. Good day sir.

I could be wrong but I think its a little to late for that.

[GregAndrew]

Mr Andrew, the word "of" implies multiple Halibut

If I say I went to the grocery store and bought 10lbs of oranges, did I buy 1 10lb orange, or 10lbs WORTH of oranges.

Sorry, but it does not read like you have interpreted it. In your response you used "a" which I pointed out for you, implying you were under the impression it was 1x 100# Halibut. I'm confused on your defense.

However, I'm not here to get into a debate over grammar. Good day sir.

No need for the condecending gradeschool grammar lesson. If you were to read it again, you might see the words "is about as true" in the sentence that you are paraphrasing. This would indicate that I believe both the statement and the idea mentioned to be untrue. Unless of course you believe one or both of them to be true in themselves.

[GregAndrew]

Or possibly you mistakenly think that I am quoting the original poster on the 100#s?

[DanaPT]

let's start the riots. . .

wait you guys still talking about this?

Back to the celebration. . . okay, no one in so cal likes hockey.

Everyone off to bed. There are fish to be caught in the morning.

moderator, please kill this thread.

[ful-rac]

Mr Andrew, the word "of" implies multiple Halibut

If I say I went to the grocery store and bought 10lbs of oranges, did I buy 1 10lb orange, or 10lbs WORTH of oranges.

Sorry, but it does not read like you have interpreted it. In your response you used "a" which I pointed out for you, implying you were under the impression it was 1x 100# Halibut. I'm confused on your defense.

However, I'm not here to get into a debate over grammar. Good day sir.


A 10 pound orange?????......I call bs without pics!
Good day!..... you sexy ass mofo

[GregAndrew]

A 10 pound orange?????......I call bs without pics!
Good day!..... you sexy ass mofo


Just have to hold the orange at arms length for the camera shot Tony. Then Photoshop your head smaller. lol

[Tman]

My money is on Slim...:D

[Drake]

A 10 pound orange?????......I call bs without pics!
Good day!..... you sexy ass mofo

Your 10lb orange, sir.
http://amantesdakatia.blogger.com.br/UmpaLumpa.jpg

Or possibly you mistakenly think that I am quoting the original poster on the 100#s?

That could very well be, sorry if that is the case

No need for the condecending gradeschool grammar lesson. If you were to read it again, you might see the words "is about as true" in the sentence that you are paraphrasing. This would indicate that I believe both the statement and the idea mentioned to be untrue. Unless of course you believe one or both of them to be true in themselves.

Didn't mean to be condescending. If that's how it came off I apologize. I was just busting balls. Its the internet, it's hard to properly impose things such as sarcastic tones.

Just have to hold the orange at arms length for the camera shot Tony. Then Photoshop your head smaller. lol

:iagree:

[Aaron&Julie]

I resent the need to kill the thread by requesting the moderator do so. It ain't that bad. I apologized for my mis-interpretation. Sometimes more crap falls between the cracks than originally intended. If Keptman has something that works, give us the info (Pics of fish caught, setup that was used), and it's all good.
My original point was, he wasn't showing us anything while touting the manufacturer of such said success. It looked like a sale, is all.
No need for panties to be in tight. Good luck to all, and to all, good night.

Aaron

[Gigafish]

WTF :svengo:

[Fiskadoro]

Your 10lb orange, sir.....

20lbs is better...
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/Sockeye-Salm/465.jpg

[steveooo]

Once I caught a 5 lb lemon :rolleyes:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/83a236b5.jpg

Congrats on the fine day of halibut fishing :cheers1:

[lambadmin]

Ugh.
This thread is a disaster. :(