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swinginFish
06-30-2012, 06:29 AM
Beautiful day out there yesterday, and even better for some others. Clear, warm water, sunny, minimal surf, little wind, a few biting YT's and general good cheer on the water. Smallish barrecuda hitting lures and raking what few baits I could find (biggest challenge of the day was finding decent bait). Current running a bit southward keeping bull and other kelp less visible. Hook ups likely to weave macrame in the kelp - plan accordingly.

Note: Years past the norm here (and on the regional kayak-fishing blogs that preceded it) was to post so that others could benefit from the intel. Sorry to learn a few folks got overzealous and caved to the evils of "localism". As an undisputed member of LJ's (I hate this, but its evidently true) "old guard", can say the biggest lament about kayak fishing these days isn't the numbers, but the attitude. Consider this post my way of showing solidarity with those who believe in openly sharing so others can learn about relevant conditions as well as lessons, innovations and trophy fish.

Avery

theluckypig
06-30-2012, 06:44 AM
:cheers1:

tasteslikechikn54
06-30-2012, 06:45 AM
It's good to know that BWE has made it clear and hopefully we can get back to the important stuff... Good reports and timely info is always good. Cheers... Went out as well, and all I could manage was a nice greenie and like 4, 12 inch jack smelt... I couldn't make bait to save my life.... Good luck to all out there today.... Tons of life out there and the water was a nice, clean, blue color... I saw some of the biggest jellyfish I have ever seen in my life out there. Good luck.

jorluivil
06-30-2012, 07:07 AM
Long overdue............

Jimmyz123
06-30-2012, 07:18 AM
Beautiful day out there yesterday, and even better for some others. Clear, warm water, sunny, minimal surf, little wind, a few biting YT's and general good cheer on the water. Smallish barrecuda hitting lures and raking what few baits I could find (biggest challenge of the day was finding decent bait). Current running a bit southward keeping bull and other kelp less visible. Hook ups likely to weave macrame in the kelp - plan accordingly.

Note: Years past the norm here (and on the regional kayak-fishing blogs that preceded it) was to post so that others could benefit from the intel. Sorry to learn a few folks got overzealous and caved to the evils of "localism". As an undisputed member of LJ's (I hate this, but its evidently true) "old guard", can say the biggest lament about kayak fishing these days isn't the numbers, but the attitude. Consider this post my way of showing solidarity with those who believe in openly sharing so others can learn about relevant conditions as well as lessons, innovations and trophy fish.

Avery

This was what I loved so much about BWE when I joined a few years ago. I could login, read some reports, learn, ask questions, and feel like I was in a good place to learn kayak fishing. Then the swing came and it became clear that if you asked questions, posted a report, or whatever it was you were going to get crap from doing so, and at times threatened. What's with that? There's joking around and then there's crossing the line. I had someone threaten to punch me out if they ever saw me at La Jolla. That didn't scare me off from going to La Jolla because there's plenty of witnesses there, and I know how to defend myself if needs be.

I may not be liked by everyone, and that's O.K. but this is fishing and I'd be willing to chat it up with anyone to learn, help, and just flat out have fun fishing. I hope this site gets back to what I remember when I first logged on.

Jimmyz123
06-30-2012, 07:33 AM
It's good to know that BWE has made it clear and hopefully we can get back to the important stuff... Good reports and timely info is always good. Cheers... Went out as well, and all I could manage was a nice greenie and like 4, 12 inch jack smelt... I couldn't make bait to save my life.... Good luck to all out there today.... Tons of life out there and the water was a nice, clean, blue color... I saw some of the biggest jellyfish I have ever seen in my life out there. Good luck.

I had no trouble in the making bait Thursday in the morning, but after those ran out all I could make up was the Jack Smelt. I too saw some most amazing life out there. Black Sea Bass, WSB, YT, Bat Rays, I also saw jelly fish, were the ones you saw white and red?

There's life out there, but they weren't hitting anything I was throwing at them.

Drake
06-30-2012, 07:48 AM
I had no trouble in the making bait Thursday in the morning, but after those ran out all I could make up was the Jack Smelt. I too saw some most amazing life out there. Black Sea Bass, WSB, YT, Bat Rays, I also saw jelly fish, were the ones you saw white and red?

There's life out there, but they weren't hitting anything I was throwing at them.

The best luck I had catching Greenbacks yesterday was to reel in a bare 2/0 circle hook through schools of bait. The spanish and smelt were too lazy to chase it, so I would get the few greenies in the mix. It happened by accident the first time, tried it again and it seemed to work. This was late though, around 4pm

Fiskadoro
06-30-2012, 08:03 AM
Sorry to learn a few folks got overzealous and caved to the evils of "localism"


We've had these issues up in LA for years now especially with some in the Malibu crowd. Over the top reactions to posts, internet stalking, blatant aggression, threats, verbal altercations at the launches, even car vandalism.

I've only posted here for a few years, but in that time period I've seen the same mentality gain momentum here, often instigated by the same people or friends of theirs in the kayak scene. It's a real drag. Though these guys like to pretend they are the only "real" fisherman, you kind of have to wonder why these people even frequent boards if they are so anti the exchange of even the most basic fishing information.

It's great to see BWE take a stand on this. I hope it has an effect.

When I saw Scallywags deep hole/ Malibu report my first thought was: "Oh man he's really going to get it", and the second was "Great Report". Shame that first thought and it's related cynicism even entered into the equation.

Jim

Jimmyz123
06-30-2012, 08:16 AM
The best luck I had catching Greenbacks yesterday was to reel in a bare 2/0 circle hook through schools of bait. The spanish and smelt were too lazy to chase it, so I would get the few greenies in the mix. It happened by accident the first time, tried it again and it seemed to work. This was late though, around 4pm

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed a lack of sardines in the La Jolla area? I know there are years where we will see tons of dines and/or chovies, but usually not all at the same time.

Jimmyz123
06-30-2012, 08:25 AM
We've had these issues up in LA for years now especially with some in the Malibu crowd. Over the top reactions to posts, internet stalking, blatant aggression, threats, verbal altercations at the launches, even car vandalism.

I've only posted here for a few years, but in that time period I've seen the same mentality gain momentum here, often instigated by the same people or friends of theirs in the kayak scene. It's a real drag. Though these guys like to pretend they are the only "real" fisherman. You kind of have to wonder why these people even frequent boards if they are so anti the exchange of even the most basic fishing information.

It's great to see BWE take a stand on this. I hope it has an effect.

When I saw Scallywags deep hole/ Malibu report my first thought was: "Oh man he's really going to get it", and the second was "Great Report". Shame that first thought and it's related cynicism even entered into the equation.

Jim

I've been a member on another San Diego Fishing site since 2001 and through the years there have been many that have thought they could out fish anyone and everyone. Some of them probably could out fish many and all, but I have never seen that site get to a point where people have threatened others with fighting or any of that.

I have noticed that some in the Kayak fishing world have almost adopted that old skater/surfer mentality of, "this is our water you can't fish it unless I say so." Also there are those that if they don't see you holding a YT,WSB, or Halibut from your Kayak then you are not worthy to post up fishing information, tips, or tricks. Just because I haven't caught any YT or WSB from my kayak doesn't mean I don't know how to fish or anyone else for that matter. I have helped many catch good amounts of fish, and of good quality over my years of fishing.

Thank you BWE for taking this stand, and I think the only way this site is going to get back to what many of us remembering it to be like is if we all work together to make it the best Kayak fishing site out there. This isn't BD Kayaking, it's BWE. :you_rock::cheers1::luxhello:

Now, can we all just go catch some :wsb:and just get along?

Pocoloco
06-30-2012, 08:39 AM
Thanks bwe, this forum is for reports....., give some good info then brag about your catch if you want. i love pics but please post an informative report. You still have to go out and get em.:cool:

jorluivil
06-30-2012, 09:35 AM
Thanks bwe, this forum is for reports....., give some good info then brag about your catch if you want. i love pics but please post an informative report. You still have to go out and get em.:cool:

You couldn't of ended that sentence any better. I know a few guys that went out 2-3 days straight and of the 5 or so only 1 managed to land a fish and that was after a 10-12hr day.

Gigafish
06-30-2012, 09:44 AM
Let that river flow:linesnap:

bubblehide
06-30-2012, 11:33 AM
It's great to see the Mods stepping in an moderating. I've witnessed a couple other boards where the mods stepped back and let the mud fly, it eventually got so bad, the mods let the bullies take control. Needless to say, those boards pretty much died, as no one but those in the "inner circle" bother to post there any longer.
:notworthy::luxhello:

My hats off to the Mods.

dsafety
06-30-2012, 05:55 PM
It's great to see the Mods stepping in an moderating. I've witnessed a couple other boards where the mods stepped back and let the mud fly, it eventually got so bad, the mods let the bullies take control. Needless to say, those boards pretty much died, as no one but those in the "inner circle" bother to post there any longer.
:notworthy::luxhello:

My hats off to the Mods.

I could not have said it any better. There is a fresh breeze blowing in off the water today. Our community will be much better as a result. Thanks guys for stepping up.

Bob

MrM
06-30-2012, 08:27 PM
I've been on vacation for a few days (fly fishing report coming, by the way...) but I must have missed something by the notice up top and this thread...

Either way, this site has been helpful to me in every way. From my very first post, everyone was nice and welcomed me with open arms, and I never really said thank you for that.

So, thanks BWE. Let's keep it up, and catch some fish. Looking forward to the day when I can lend a hand to someone else.

:you_rock:

tasteslikechikn54
06-30-2012, 09:15 PM
I had no trouble in the making bait Thursday in the morning, but after those ran out all I could make up was the Jack Smelt. I too saw some most amazing life out there. Black Sea Bass, WSB, YT, Bat Rays, I also saw jelly fish, were the ones you saw white and red?

There's life out there, but they weren't hitting anything I was throwing at them.

Yeah... They were more of a purpleish color, with white. But they were huge... I would've stayed out later my I gotta call from the commander and had to head home... I ran into BUTTCHASER, and he told me to hang around for the afternoon bite... I almost doubled back, but decided to call it a day. Don't wanna piss off the old lady...

taggermike
07-01-2012, 12:52 PM
Thanks Avery, well said. Seeing reports like this gets old fast; "Me and CoolGuy#1 caught the right kind at our usually secret place". Mike

Iceman
07-01-2012, 06:57 PM
Again, the point we would like to drive home is post what you want or don't. Criticizing other contributing members for what they share or choose not to share will get you shit canned.

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lambadmin
07-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Yes indeed.

Comment removed; user banned for 1 week. If such comments continue, we’ll ban permanently. We will not tolerate any BS.

Avery, thanks!! :cheers1:

YakMedic
07-01-2012, 07:12 PM
Again, the point we would like to drive home is post what you want or don't. Criticizing other contributing members for what they share or choose not to share will get you shit canned.


Yes indeed.

Comment removed; user banned for 1 week. If such comments continue, we’ll ban permanently. We will not tolerate any BS.

Avery, thanks!! :cheers1:

Very cool guys... You move with a swift hand. Good looking out for the kayak fishing community. :you_rock::cheers1:

mtnbykr2
07-02-2012, 09:38 AM
let's get back to it :grouphug:

blazian
07-02-2012, 11:30 AM
Finally, we have a forum that is back to normal, instead of a bunch of asshats trying to keep all fish to themselves. I'm guessing they aren't very happy now. heheheheheheh

Jimmyz123
07-02-2012, 02:09 PM
Finally, we have a forum that is back to normal, instead of a bunch of asshats trying to keep all fish to themselves. I'm guessing they aren't very happy now. heheheheheheh

There is a much different feeling on the boards at this time now. A much more relaxed welcome feeling again.

wiredantz
07-02-2012, 07:46 PM
:you_rock: ICeman

BigBalsa
07-02-2012, 08:49 PM
I continue to log time OTW but have yet to "pop the cherry", so every little bit of advice helps. Thanks to all the unselfish posts out there. Hopefully a catch soon, and I'll be able to share a post with a PIC!

Keep the spirit of the pursuit true.

cajunman
07-03-2012, 07:13 AM
As an long time member, ( not as much kayaking as i would like) I also would like to thank the moderators for taking this step. This is a great board and will continue to be
rich

Iceman
07-03-2012, 07:34 AM
Holy crap Cajunman resurfaces! :D Long time know see Rich............who's next Lifeguardguy? Fishinmagician???????:D

swinginFish
07-03-2012, 08:20 AM
Yo Rich! Get off that boat and get some exercise! As for "resurfacing", note that Tobey's in town, and with a little persuasion, perhaps we can arrange an OTW rendezvous and share fish stories over some ..... ibuprofin!

Avery

cajunman
07-03-2012, 10:08 AM
actually been traveling ( camping a lot) checking out places to retire. Been bringing the Yak along and getting in some nice fishin. Last one was a week a Morro Bay, filled up on rockfish.

Tell tobey hi and to give me a call too. Iceman, thanks for the acknowledgement

rich

Enceladus
07-03-2012, 11:30 AM
My only regret is that I haven't had a post worthy of warranting any intimidation. Some day, tho...someday...:o

Jim Sammons LJKF
07-03-2012, 12:26 PM
Holy crap Cajunman resurfaces! :D Long time know see Rich............who's next Lifeguardguy? Fishinmagician???????:D

Wow if you can get those two back on here it would almost be like old times. Don't forget Tom Booth too.

swinginFish
07-03-2012, 02:02 PM
Sammons?! Woa, what's happening here? Can't help but wonder which of the other aging knuckleheads continue to lurk on the outskirts?

A "fresh breeze" indeed!

Siebler
07-03-2012, 03:27 PM
Holy crap Cajunman resurfaces! :D Long time know see Rich............who's next Lifeguardguy? Fishinmagician???????:D

I was thinking the same thing! Rich sold me my very first kayak, a Cobra Explorer.

Jimm H
07-03-2012, 04:28 PM
Wow if you can get those two back on here it would almost be like old times. Don't forget Tom Booth too.

Jim: Tom Booth sold his La Jolla house and moved to Lake Tahoe two year ago. ( I still talk to him periodically). Of course, if you have legal/criminal problems he's still your best bet at a defense attorney (knowing how you've mellowed, Jim, you probably won't need his number as much as I thoought you would in the th "old days"

Adam K. (FishinMagician) got MARRIED, and is a volunteer member of the SD Mountain Rescue unit.

Last I heard, Brian the LGG was fishing bass tournaments, but that was some time ago.

Funny how most of the guys that pioneered kayak fishing in La Jolla has moved on to fishing elsewhere, own boats now, etc. I launched from the shores on my kayak a month or so ago for the first time in a year and some guy asked me if I needed any advise on getting out. i told him I've got close to 600 launches there, so no... he then started asking me about things and we talked to for about 10 minutes. There used to be a lot of sharing and a lot of radio chatter on 71. Now, a lot of silence.

It used to be reports contained time, depth, hook type, line size, leader, bait type and size, water clarity, conditions, signs, etc. Last couple of years seems to be a photo followed by a lot of "nice catch"... "nice fish" atta boys.

Thanks for taking a stand supporting a return to informative reports

Jimm H

Iceman
07-03-2012, 04:32 PM
Doctor Gary? :D

Tman
07-03-2012, 06:31 PM
Johnny Ceviche, anyone?

Do miss the old days of fresh on the water reports...

cajunman
07-03-2012, 09:10 PM
ah J. Cervechie paddling in from an all night fishing trip while we were going out

swinginFish
07-03-2012, 11:06 PM
Geez, let's take a walk (or is it paddle - no, peddle) down memory lane.

Jimm H - Was hoping you'd be lurking out there. Thought of you recently given the fresh report of a GW cruising around again. Recall the banter at grey light between you and Tom a day after a shark report years back, i.e., Tom: "If we see something, what should we do?" You: "Paddle fast." Tom: "How fast?" You: "Just faster than Avery - he's somewhere behind us".

Ahh, friends...

Yep, we truly did enjoy a distinct comeraderie back then. As for Johnny Ceviche, I'll never forget seeing him surf a small LJ wave in on his OK SP. It was around 8 AM - think it was this time of year and at least a decade in the past. I was just about to paddle out, and upon seeing Johnny, was concerned he'd pearl given how low his yak was in the water. He didn't, and as he got closer to shore I realized what was up, i.e., he had two large YT's and an even bigger WSB strewn across his bow! Epic Johnny (For those unfamiliar with Mssr. Ceviche, you've a fine Google/YouTube journey ahead if interested). Hey, you out there Johnny? Wonder who else is lurking out there? C-level? Trout? Pat? Al?

Roll call!

Montesdad
07-04-2012, 06:14 AM
Thank you Mods - appreciate your contribution to the site and our sport.

Jim Sammons LJKF
07-04-2012, 09:33 AM
If you recall many of the reports back then consisted of " I caught it in 100' of water in front of the hotel"

Jimm H
07-04-2012, 10:13 AM
Dr. Gary. wow.

Bill Coin, Neil, Art Who, cabo rick, EagleEye, Phreshwon (Mark Rosas), Mike Mann San Diego Jeff,..... How about "Crazy John" in his rowboat?

I met Johnny Ceviche on a news years morning launch with John Pawlak (EagleEye, aka Paddlefetish). John was paddling in after a monstor BSB had towed him 7 miles out on NY eve. Lately he is running marathons, but he still goes out to LJ now and then. He kept track of his WSB catch by the 100's of pounds, not in fish.

I remember that GWS discussion, Avery! it was early Feb 2003 or 04. We saw the fin of a big one the following weekend in 60 ft. off south TP Reef 1. It was pointed right at Tom and me, and sunk out about 150 ft away. never saw the body, just a foot of fin. Tom asked what I thought we should do again, and I told him, "Nothing. I'm screwed if it wants one of us because you're an attorney, so you'll get professional courtesy..."

EagleEye used to post a question, then post a derogatory response under one of his other board names, then sit back and watch the other responses come in.

These guys had thousands of hours on the water, hundreds or thousands of launches. Many started doing this 20 years or more ago. Newer members here don't know them because the board hype changed and most just quit posting. Many of us moved into boats.

Anyway, I recently sold my 19' orange RIB (Pumped Up), and am waiting on a some engine work on a 2001 trophy 2052 WA I just bought, so I will probably launch the kayak sat morning. I'll post a report.

swinginFish
07-04-2012, 10:52 AM
Jimm,

In the jargon of the day .. LMFAO!

"Professional courtesy"! Great.

Now if John P. could/would chime in, all will be right with the world ...

WELCOME BACK!

Avery

Iceman
07-04-2012, 10:52 AM
If you recall many of the reports back then consisted of " I caught it in 100' of water in front of the hotel"

........on 20# on a Calcutta 400 :D.....or a Jigmaster if you were poor like me.

rdahl
07-04-2012, 11:53 AM
Jimm H back in a kayak? man Jimm, you better stock up on the motrin and ben gay! If it was a different weekend I would join you. Maybe in August. GL

Rick

Jim Sammons LJKF
07-04-2012, 01:21 PM
Yeah what happened to Crazy John, man he would row that boat for miles and was ripped. Looked and acted like a crazy street person but was funny as hell, very nice and as I mentioned he could row his ass off. Run into him on the water and you were sure to get some bizarre comment.

Margarita Mike
07-04-2012, 03:12 PM
:luxhello: Loven it all. BWE keep up the great work.

Jimmyz123
07-04-2012, 05:24 PM
Dr. Gary. wow.

Bill Coin, Neil, Art Who, cabo rick, EagleEye, Phreshwon (Mark Rosas), Mike Mann San Diego Jeff,..... How about "Crazy John" in his rowboat?

I met Johnny Ceviche on a news years morning launch with John Pawlak (EagleEye, aka Paddlefetish). John was paddling in after a monstor BSB had towed him 7 miles out on NY eve. Lately he is running marathons, but he still goes out to LJ now and then. He kept track of his WSB catch by the 100's of pounds, not in fish.

I remember that GWS discussion, Avery! it was early Feb 2003 or 04. We saw the fin of a big one the following weekend in 60 ft. off south TP Reef 1. It was pointed right at Tom and me, and sunk out about 150 ft away. never saw the body, just a foot of fin. Tom asked what I thought we should do again, and I told him, "Nothing. I'm screwed if it wants one of us because you're an attorney, so you'll get professional courtesy..."

EagleEye used to post a question, then post a derogatory response under one of his other board names, then sit back and watch the other responses come in.

These guys had thousands of hours on the water, hundreds or thousands of launches. Many started doing this 20 years or more ago. Newer members here don't know them because the board hype changed and most just quit posting. Many of us moved into boats.

Anyway, I recently sold my 19' orange RIB (Pumped Up), and am waiting on a some engine work on a 2001 trophy 2052 WA I just bought, so I will probably launch the kayak sat morning. I'll post a report.

I don't know J. Ceviche personally but from all the videos I've watched I feel like I do. He was a huge inspiration for me.

EagleEye is the one that got me interested in getting a kayak. I knew him from church and he kept saying let's go out sometime. I finally bought a Kayak and have been hooked ever since.

Getting to know all of you guys over the years is what helps make this site so great, and to have others coming in stepping on our toes telling us newbs to be quiet, what and when to post really started making it no fun to come here. Now I'm feeling that fun again. The Mods did a great thing and I'm looking forward to learning more from you all.

CurtyL
07-05-2012, 10:03 PM
I'm glad I haven't been on the boards in a while - seems like we've gone the way of every other forum. to0 many haters. zIf you must - hate on politics, hate on taxes, on the second ammendment, hate on gay people and abortion. Who gives a fuck? We fish on kayaks. We are not so selective that we can afford to hate on eachother. In fact LJ kayak fishermen may be the smallest subset of the lot. I get competition, but one reason I'm proud to say this is my hobby is cause I know all you guys are not dicks. And competiion is just being friendly. Cuase lets face it, none of us really (except for Josh) know what we're doing.

Otherwise it's be a vido game.

Dan
07-05-2012, 10:56 PM
Was Crazy John "shake rattle and row"?

He moved to Hermosa. We stuck together in the fog one day and when it lifted we were almost off del mar. He was excited and I was 4 hours late to work that day.

Saba Slayer
07-06-2012, 08:06 AM
Does anyone remember this 1995 Pacific Fisherman cover ???


http://www.bdoutdoors.com/gallery/files/4/2/2/8/img_1120.jpg

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/gallery/files/4/2/2/8/img_1121.jpg

http://www.bdoutdoors.com/gallery/files/4/2/2/8/img_1123.jpg

That's my 1st Scupper with the Humminbird unit on it.

Dennis Spike wrote that article and woke a LOT of fishermen up to the joys of Kayak Fishing. Although he burned a lot of bridges... He really was the "godfather" of Coastal Kayak Fishing.
That's his cousin Howie in the cover photo...he was the one who introduced both Dennis and myself to kayak fishing in the early 90's, at Westward Beach at Point Dume.
There was a real nut that we met that was catching a lot of Threasher Sharks on his yak and using something he called a Ryno Bar...Jeff Kreiger aka RYNO!
"Dem's was the Days"...!
It's a different world now...gotta love the internet?!
Jim / Saba Slayer

PS...Who could forget Johnny Ceviche's great grandpa...
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/gallery/files/4/2/2/8/img_1124.jpg

phreshwon
07-11-2012, 07:22 PM
Awesome string of posts from some great people.

I will no longer heckle and intimidate on the Board.

I'll just save it for Jimm Sammons Fred Hall Seminars!:p

Zed
07-12-2012, 02:02 PM
I will not be intimidated!
I will heckle who I wish!

monkeyfishturds
07-18-2012, 05:33 PM
Censorship goes both ways. BWE didn't mind Dark Horse asking his clients to hold back their catches for a few weeks. Your members are men, if some people are bullying them, they can stand up for themselves and tell the bully to go pound sand. All points of view are worth reading. I hope you don't ban them, over zealous or not.

Neil
07-19-2012, 05:21 AM
If you recall many of the reports back then consisted of " I caught it in 100' of water in front of the hotel"

But Jim it was true :)

Fiskadoro
08-09-2012, 11:05 AM
Censorship goes both ways.....Your members are men, if some people are bullying them, they can stand up for themselves and tell the bully to go pound sand. All points of view are worth reading....

Someone sent me a link to this in a PM, and evidently I missed this the first time around, but I got to say it's definitely pretty enlightening.

So you are pro freedom of speech when it comes to bullying, or web stalking but you are against freedom of speech when it comes to posting reports, or having people exchange even general info about places they fish like Malibu.

Simply Amazing.

You might want read the other responses in this thread. Pretty much everyone agrees that BWE is about sharing information, and they want it to be civil, where people can exchange information without worrying being attacked bullied or harassed.

This is not an attack but I took the time to read all your posts, and with the exception of where you tell someone where they can't fish in Malibu do to the closure, I don't see anything that could be seen as sharing info, or helping other fisherman.

In light of your statement above and posting record I would like to ask you a simple question:

"What do you think these message boards are for, and if they are not for exchange of info what do you think they should be about?

Jim

blazian
08-10-2012, 02:54 PM
Censorship goes both ways. BWE didn't mind Dark Horse asking his clients to hold back their catches for a few weeks. Your members are men, if some people are bullying them, they can stand up for themselves and tell the bully to go pound sand. All points of view are worth reading. I hope you don't ban them, over zealous or not.
Josh or Darkhorse doesn't talk shit on the boards when people post fish reports. I'm glad to see most of the fricking asshats who tried to control fish reports are gone or banned, good riddance!

addicted2sp33d
08-10-2012, 05:06 PM
Amanda Cerny solves all conflicts:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/Amanda_Cerny5-830x1245.JPG

At least this worked last time.

Cbad Mike
08-10-2012, 11:13 PM
I really don't get what this whole problem is. If you don't want to post then don't. If you do want to post then do. I believe that we are all adults with at least a half of brain so what's the problem? Maybe it's just me and I missed something , I don't know. I've read just about everything there is to read on BWE and have learned ALOT thanks to ALL of the posts. This is an online community and as any type of community there are a lot of different views from alot of different people. Some people are nice and some people aren't. Some people are helpful and some aren't. I really don't understand what the fuss is. I can tell an asshole member from a cool member that I'd like to fish with. I can tell the difference in who's overly cocky and who is cocky because they prove it on the water. If a guy wants to share the exact spot and how he caught fish there then cool. If another guy doesn't want to share his secrets and techniques that he's spent uncountable hours on the water learning then that's cool with me also.
My point is if you don't like what someone writes then ignore that person. If that person is such an asshole they will eventually burn their own bridge themselves. The only thing that I think a member should be banned for is if they threaten violence towards someone.
The one thing that I would like to thank BWE for besides the knowledge that I get everyday from reading the forum is that it hasn't gone the way of Bloody Decks. I like that it's exactly what us kayak fisher people need and not all the other BS.
Now the one thing that does bug ME is the fact that some new members repeatedly ask basic questions that they could easily get answered and more if they'd just take the time to read more then the most current threads and posts. It's like they want someone to paddle their kayak for them, bait their hook and hand them the rod without ever spending one minute on the water themselves.
Like I said maybe I'm missing something here but that's my opinion if I'm still entitled to it.

The above rambling has been brought to you in part by the great beer of Ballast Point. :the_finger:

jorluivil
08-10-2012, 11:49 PM
Its just a bunch of grown men fighting over something neither owns or will ever own. Funny thing is that even those that bitch the most got their start/info the same as the newbie. How many guys can actually say they went out on a hunch and caught a limit of wsb or yt? If fishing revolved around a 'hunch' I'd be pulling up 40lb hail's every week, matt would have his 100lb thresher, Roby would have that 40lb yellow, eric would have caught something......anything, tony would have caught a 60lb wsb and greg would have caught a 45lb halibut.

jorluivil
08-10-2012, 11:50 PM
Amanda Cerny solves all conflicts:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/Amanda_Cerny5-830x1245.JPG

At least this worked last time.

She can have my money and my wifes money

radastaff
08-11-2012, 10:52 AM
and thats why
i like to rollerblade

bus kid
08-11-2012, 05:40 PM
Its just a bunch of grown men fighting over something neither owns or will ever own. Funny thing is that even those that bitch the most got their start/info the same as the newbie. How many guys can actually say they went out on a hunch and caught a limit of wsb or yt? If fishing revolved around a 'hunch' I'd be pulling up 40lb hail's every week, matt would have his 100lb thresher, Roby would have that 40lb yellow, eric would have caught something......anything, tony would have caught a 60lb wsb and greg would have caught a 45lb halibut.

you forgot someone. :the_finger:

and rollerblades are still gay, I bet she doesnt even know how to make ceviche
7267

addicted2sp33d
08-13-2012, 09:27 AM
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7267

If that's what it takes to land Ms. Cerny, then point me to the nearest store where I can buy rainbow leggings! I already have the Batman briefs!

radastaff
08-13-2012, 08:56 PM
its only gay
if your behind batman
and not Amanda