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Yakin
07-23-2012, 08:06 AM
Ok, so I spend 5 hours yesterday pondering and up in my attic, where it was so hot that my glasses burned my face, trying to figured out how to support the heavy ass hull of the PA14.
Well I finally figured it out.
I couldn't take pics of how I was able to support it threw the drywall but here we go.
only had to use one 2x4 in the attic,
measured 12'9" apart from one hanger clip to the other
install cleets on the wall to the left and to the right
Had Deefeesha weld me custom hooks for the front and back of my kayak(anything welded you need that guy can do it!!)
then I put two more hooks on both sides of the kayak so once hoisted up in the air I can support the belly some with a ratchet-strap
If you want to see more pics of what went on in the attic let me know and I can get them to you.
These PA are very heavy and need to be supported with a stronger beam then most kayaks
maui jim
07-23-2012, 09:09 AM
NICE....
Too bad you could not mount PA to directly lower onto roof of you car. Save yourself some early morning lifting..
Yakin
07-23-2012, 09:29 AM
NICE....
Too bad you could not mount PA to directly lower onto roof of you car. Save yourself some early morning lifting..
I still have to figure an easier way how to lift it up in the air.
I am thinking maybe something like a crank you see on a boat trailer?
But it is a lot easier for me to mount it on my ladder rack on my truck then it was for me to hoist it up in the air
Deefeesha
07-23-2012, 09:47 AM
Glad it worked out for yall. :D
Yakin
07-23-2012, 10:34 AM
Glad it worked out for yall. :D
Yeah the hooks fit perfect on there! I am glad I had you make the rear bigger!
StinkyMatt
07-23-2012, 10:40 AM
It would be much, much easier if you got rid of that white clunker blocking your way. I mean, that thing just gets in your way:mad:.
I have an extra space in my garage you can use....just leave the keys(in case I have to move it or something):D
Yakin
07-23-2012, 10:57 AM
It would be much, much easier if you got rid of that white clunker blocking your way.
Believe it or not, that color is called Corvette Blue.
it was only around in the 70s models Corvettes and maybe even the EARLY 60s if you look at the roof of it you can see a very very very light hint of light sky blue.
Very rare finding one with the original Corvette Blue still on it!:cool:
bus kid
07-23-2012, 12:50 PM
Impressive, I don't see a single knot. :D
Deefeesha
07-23-2012, 01:00 PM
Impressive, I don't see a single knot. :D
I'll take credit for that; I invented the knotless hangers for him ;)
Poxy Boggards
07-23-2012, 03:11 PM
Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.
I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.
Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:
Yakin
07-23-2012, 03:23 PM
Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.
I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.
Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:
the guy that posted right above you is who made my hangers for.
bus kid
07-23-2012, 03:33 PM
Good timing on this post as I am trying to figure out how to hang my Revo up in a similar fashion. I would love to see some clear pics of how you have the rope connected to the PA. Looks like a custom bracket of some kind, but can't really make it out.
I was thinking about using double nylon straps to hold up the Kayak and a hoist to give me a mechanical advantage when lifting it into the air.
Anyone else hang their kayak and want to share some photos?:cheers1:
http://www.harborfreight.com/bicycle-lift-95803.html
Upgrade the rope, add lifting straps and a few heavy clips. I use mine to lift my revo onto a Talic rack. I will post some pics tonite if I get home early enough.
Very smart move. Although the PAs are hobie's cost top dollar,
their bottoms are made from soft plastics that deform
and desort with temp, time, and pressure.
Leaving your PA on the floor, or, even transporting it
on its bottom in your pick up will deform the PAs bottom.
Hobie is not alone. Other kayak makers do the same thing.
Soft bottoms means more profit for kayak manufacturers.
roadx
07-23-2012, 04:21 PM
when i picked up my 12 there was a 14 that had it's back grab bar almost completely ripped off. i asked, what caused that??? they said " they stored the 14 in a hot garage and suspended it by it's grab bars" not recommended by hobie.
Yakin
07-23-2012, 04:48 PM
when i picked up my 12 there was a 14 that had it's back grab bar almost completely ripped off. i asked, what caused that??? they said " they stored the 14 in a hot garage and suspended it by it's grab bars" not recommended by hobie.
When I was at iCast I talked to the hobie reps about my idea and they said the same thing to me but They said that my middle blue rachet strap i have running threw the side arms would help spread the weight out evenly. Also my garage doesnt get above 80 due to living in the san bernardino mountains.And if it does it is only way day every now and then. I guess I can hope and prey over time to see how it works.
roadx
07-23-2012, 05:02 PM
keep an eye on it. sometimes you have to do what you have to do. i would think the more supports the better.
dorado50
07-23-2012, 05:06 PM
Block and tackle pully system....been around for centuries. You need more support for hull. Try a sling system with six inch wide straps...Quite an easy project actually...good luck
Yakin
07-23-2012, 05:14 PM
Block and tackle pully system
where can I find this?
T-Rex
07-23-2012, 07:24 PM
where can I find this?
West Marine sells a nice 6:1 Harken lift system for $140 and an 8:1 system for $170.
http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/21700/1d/content.westmarine.com/images/catalog/full/2043024.jpg
On the other end of the spectrum, I saw this bicycle lift at Harbor Freight for under $10. It's pretty light duty and I'd be pretty nervous suspending a PA over anything with it. The mounting hardware was okay, but the pulleys were a little flimsy.
http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/160x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_13517.jpg
StinkyMatt
07-23-2012, 08:28 PM
The harbor freight lift works fine, as long as you mount it in a solid way. Had it now for two years supported a revo, an outback and now an outfitter.
Like Dorado said, buy some thicker straps.
RockyRaab
07-24-2012, 07:23 AM
I intend to buy one of the Harken systems for my PA14 as soon as my deck gets remodeled. Here's the link to all their products... http://www.harkensport.com/cat/hoister.html
Caballito
07-24-2012, 08:28 AM
Maybe suspend it in a cargo net?
Yakin
07-24-2012, 08:41 AM
The harbor freight lift works fine, as long as you mount it in a solid way. Had it now for two years supported a revo, an outback and now an outfitter.
Like Dorado said, buy some thicker straps.
I actually went up into my attic and laid in 2x4 to make a bigger and stronger area for support then putting the screws for my pullies strait into the end of the 2x4 which was already in there under the drywall
MWC359
07-24-2012, 08:31 PM
When I had a PA last year I was searching the Hobie site and saw a guy had a system alot like yours but he had some kinfd of electric motor attached. And if im not mistaked another guy used an electric drill motor to spin his up. Sorry I dont have the link but I know I read it and saw the pics.
Yakin
07-24-2012, 09:29 PM
When I had a PA last year I was searching the Hobie site and saw a guy had a system alot like yours but he had some kinfd of electric motor attached. And if im not mistaked another guy used an electric drill motor to spin his up. Sorry I dont have the link but I know I read it and saw the pics.
Many different ways to do it and I will update pics when I profect it. I just needed to get it off the ground. Just hope the way Ive done it doesnt hurt my kayak. I hope andy can come in with his expert advice.
Old Man in the Sea
07-25-2012, 10:57 AM
I used an old canoe trailer for $275 and got hobie cradles for the PA - it is also a knotless, truck free version that requires minimal lifting...and can be pulled downhill by a motorcycle...
itchybass
07-26-2012, 04:50 PM
I don't have a PA so not sure my setup would work in your case but i'll share to at least give you some ideas. I bought a couple of the harbor freight bike lifts and they work great for my revo, that is with a couple of modifications. Here is a pic of my revo hanging in my garage.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af152/jwschmidt84/20120726_171303.jpg
So basically i just put up a couple of 2x6's between my rafters and mounted the bike lift to them. Here's a pic of them.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af152/jwschmidt84/20120726_171310.jpg
There are a couple of necessary modifications to make the bike lift work for a yak due to the increased weight. You will need to replace the cheap plastic pulleys with higher quality metal ones. I found a couple at home depot and they were pretty cheap. I also replaced the rope that came with the bike lift with some climbing rope.
Another thing I did to make lifting the kayak easier was buy a second bike lift and mount another pulley to one of my walls. This really helped and putting my kayak up takes less than a minute. Here's a pic of this pulley.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af152/jwschmidt84/20120726_171316.jpg
If you have any questions just let me know. I hope this gives you some ideas.
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