Opinion or thoughts on the Santa Cruz Raptor

[Sdspeed]

This looks like nice stable fishing platform. The reviews I've found seem pretty positive. Anybody here have any time with one of these?

[bus kid]

Welcome to BWE, It was discussed a while back. Havent seen anyone on one, ever in person.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=13733&highlight=Cruz+Raptor%26quot%3B

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=9312&highlight=Santa+Cruz+Raptor

[Sdspeed]

Thanks for the link, I was really interested in their new SOT model but it appears they haven't established much of a dealer network yet. May have to take a roadtrip to go check them out and bring back a hands on report.

[bus kid]

Thanks for the link, I was really interested in their new SOT model but it appears they haven't established much of a dealer network yet. May have to take a roadtrip to go check them out and bring back a hands on report.

I didn't see that there is a SOT thanks for the pic, now I wonder how well the overflow from the bait tank drains with the pump in the only scupper hole?

[Sdspeed]

I didn't see that there is a SOT thanks for the pic, now I wonder how well the overflow from the bait tank drains with the pump in the only scupper hole?


That's a good question, here is the site with a intro video and the specs.
I'm new to this so I'm trying to keep an open mind and look at as many options as possible. it would really be nice to speak to an owner vs. a company rep that's why I reached out to everyone here.

http://www.santacruzkayaks.com

:cheers1:

[Baitman]

Hey guys, This popped up on the radar, so I'd like to toss in my input and answer any questions. I'm the company rep. Well actually I'm the designer, assembler, and general all around shop boy too.
The SOT has been in production only a couple months now. I just delivered one to a guy in San Diego area a few weeks ago. I can check to see if he's on this forum and ask for his input. A few others recently sold up along the central coast... but no dealer network down there, yet.
The bait tank overflow is directed outside the storage well. There is still room around the pump for water to drain, it's not sealed, just fitted in loosely.
I've only used it for live bait once, Anchovies stayed lively all day. I mounted the switch inside the center console. Ideally it should be on a timer, as I kept forgetting to turn it on. What I like about it most is it makes a great storage locker for , lunch, bait, tackle,,, etc. keeping things dry inside. The four rod holders are nice too.
We just put the new website online last Friday night. There's some links that will direct you to others reviews. I can't agree with all of them, but ,,, that's the way it is.
We're also on Facebook now, so if you check that out,,, " Like " us. :)
Thanks, Jim

[seriola_killer]

Thanks for the link, I was really interested in their new SOT model but it appears they haven't established much of a dealer network yet. May have to take a roadtrip to go check them out and bring back a hands on report.


Where do the pedals go?

[tacmik]

Think I saw Luke Skywalker in it.http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7411&stc=1&d=1346963673

[PE.rider]

Looks like a Tholian space craft from Star Trek... :D

http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/tholian/tholian_webslinger.jpg

[Baitman]

Beam me up Mr Spock,,, there's no intelligent life here. :kayak-surfer:

[Baitman]

Even the Navy used my design... LOL.

http://youtu.be/nBSuolm6LcU Raptor Speed

[PE.rider]

actually, how deep is that section of the stern backside? Is it deep enough to place an electric trolling motor?

Specs please...

[StinkyMatt]

That actually looks pretty interesting.

Would love to have an opportunity to try one of these on a demo day ???


Innovation gets ridiculed sometimes.........who would ever own a "horse less wagon"?


:D

[bus kid]

That actually looks pretty interesting.

Would love to have an opportunity to try one of these on a demo day ???


Innovation gets ridiculed sometimes.........who would ever own a "horse less wagon"?


:D

or a kayak you pedal! :D

[FlyFishinYakr]

Welcome to BWE, It was discussed a while back. Havent seen anyone on one, ever in person.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=13733&highlight=Cruz+Raptor%26quot%3B

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=9312&highlight=Santa+Cruz+Raptor

I also saw the post and was thinking about it. I also remember wondering since wider Yaks are harder to paddle due to extra drag, I wonder if it wouldn't be equivalent to paddling a Cobra F'nD' or other wide body kayak.:kayak-surfer:
Just my .02,
FFY

[Sdspeed]

I also saw the post and was thinking about it. I also remember wondering since wider Yaks are harder to paddle due to extra drag, I wonder if it wouldn't be equivalent to paddling a Cobra F'nD' or other wide body kayak.:kayak-surfer:
Just my .02,
FFY

I'm new to this community and haven't decided on a kayak yet so that's what peeked my interest in this new deign and why I brought it up again. I wasn't aware it had been discussed yet. Not really that much wider if at all than other kayaks being used for fishing. Being a newbie I worry about stability. anyway these are the spec's from their website, It'd be nice to get a demo but I'm not going north in the near future.
Features:



Optional Live Bait Tank with scupper recess to fit the Attwood live bait pump.
Patented Design : wave piercing bow with a wide stern for enhanced stability.
On-Board Storage: gasketed center hatch, bow storage for over sized gear
Optional Storage: dual access hatches at pontoons

Self Bailing Scupper Holes

Adjustable Foot braces
On deck recess to hold fishing poles/spearguns and paddles



Specs:




LENGTH: 13' | 3.35 m
WIDTH: 34" | 77.5 cm
WEIGHT: 60 lbs | 24.5 kg
WEIGHT CAPACITY: 360 lbs | 163 kg


SUGGESTED RETAIL: $950.00 USD

Available Colors: Mango, Yellow, Sand, Stealth Gray, Camo, and various mixes

:cheers1:

[jorluivil]

That actually looks pretty interesting.

Would love to have an opportunity to try one of these on a demo day ???


Innovation gets ridiculed sometimes.........who would ever own a "horse less wagon"?


:D

or a kayak you pedal! :D

Or a kayak with a motor on it:D

[Baitman]

This yak begs for a trolling motor. I've installed both the Bassyaks, and Torqeedo motors using foot controls. If you didn't notice that link above, it shows it in action with the Torqeedo.
A sail is nice too ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHucLBDOa-Y&feature=youtu.be

Yes the back end is widest ( 34" ), but at the middle ( seat area ) it's much narrower. The hull is more like a flat planning hull you'd see on a SUP. If fact I somewhat copied a Tiva sailboard I used to own that had a concave hull. Then I added the pontoons to mimic the stability of an inflatable Zodiac. The deeper keels of the pontoons are like skegs, giving this great tracking. Even in a strong 15 knot crosswind it doesn't need a rudder.
The distance from keel to keel ( Chine ) is only 25" wide. I'm not a strong paddler, but can avg 3.8 mph cruising speed heading to the Mile bouy. Top end speed for me was 4.5 mph. It's not the fastest out there, but for a fishing kayak with this level of stability it's the fastest. You would have to make a deliberate attempt at flipping this over.
Another Plus,,, You won't throw your back out loading it, at only 61.5 lbs. Even fully rigged with gear; Seat, Bait tank, 12v battery, FF. Gaff etc... I can still pick this up and load it into the back of my truck.

I'm headed to the Central Coast Kayak Fishing( CCKF ) annual tournament on the 22nd. It's near Cambria, a good opportunity to earn WAF points ;). Cambria is a great little coastal tourist vacation town. If anyone has the time, please come up and say hello. It's about 3 hrs from San Diego. I'd be happy to offer a demo, or even loan you a yak for the event if you want to fish with us.
Another option is the shop in Pismo Beach, Central Coast Kayaks, they have a demo model there and a great location for fishing too.
If time permits,,, I'd recommend stopping at Goleta along the way for an attempt at WSB. :wsb:

[Sdspeed]

This yak begs for a trolling motor. I've installed both the Bassyaks, and Torqeedo motors using foot controls. If you didn't notice that link above, it shows it in action with the Torqeedo.
A sail is nice too ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHucLBDOa-Y&feature=youtu.be

Yes the back end is widest ( 34" ), but at the middle ( seat area ) it's much narrower. The hull is more like a flat planning hull you'd see on a SUP. If fact I somewhat copied a Tiva sailboard I used to own that had a concave hull. Then I added the pontoons to mimic the stability of an inflatable Zodiac. The deeper keels of the pontoons are like skegs, giving this great tracking. Even in a strong 15 knot crosswind it doesn't need a rudder.
The distance from keel to keel ( Chine ) is only 25" wide. I'm not a strong paddler, but can avg 3.8 mph cruising speed heading to the Mile bouy. Top end speed for me was 4.5 mph. It's not the fastest out there, but for a fishing kayak with this level of stability it's the fastest. You would have to make a deliberate attempt at flipping this over.
Another Plus,,, You won't throw your back out loading it, at only 61.5 lbs. Even fully rigged with gear; Seat, Bait tank, 12v battery, FF. Gaff etc... I can still pick this up and load it into the back of my truck.

I'm headed to the Central Coast Kayak Fishing( CCKF ) annual tournament on the 22nd. It's near Cambria, a good opportunity to earn WAF points ;). Cambria is a great little coastal tourist vacation town. If anyone has the time, please come up and say hello. It's about 3 hrs from San Diego. I'd be happy to offer a demo, or even loan you a yak for the event if you want to fish with us.
Another option is the shop in Pismo Beach, Central Coast Kayaks, they have a demo model there and a great location for fishing too.
If time permits,,, I'd recommend stopping at Goleta along the way for an attempt at WSB. :wsb:

Baitman, I've liked this design since I spotted one of your ads. That's why I posted the inquiry here to get some input. I'm new to this and don't own a kayak right now and wish I was in the position to take you up on your offer. I'll contact as soon as I can afford to buy my new kayak.
I really thing the overall design and the hull design lend itself very well to comfort and safety for a fishing platform. I'm to old to be in a hurry, If I was I'd buy a power boat.

:D

[maui jim]

Cambria is a litle farther and longer than 3 hours from San Diego...lol....:eek: Unless that bullet train is a running :D

I go to Paso Robles alot (258 miles to be exact).....and thats about 4 hours from Orange County and a traffic free day.:cool:
My best time is 3 hrs 45 minutes.... We bet on the travel time...:auto: watch out for those CHP's they are on their radar game lately.. counted 9 CHP Radar spots two weeks ago....

Goleta is an awsome place to fish (except for the brutal evening winds), along with Refugio...

[Drake]

Or a kayak with a motor on it:D

or a hooker with no teeth

[pino]

I just got a new raptor sot last month,I tried it in long beach harbor 2 times to see how it handles and is very stable,is also as fast as the ocean prouler 13 I had.is very lithe.Imadding thing on it,I have a home made fish tank on it,I'm going to cabrillo this Saturdai. y fishing for the firts time on it ,I'll post pictures and let you know how it is .I like it very much so far.

[Baitman]

It's about 4 hours from Santa Cruz too... C'mon meet me half way;)

[bigFISHINyak]

Baitman.....I live here on the Central Coast and have actually had the opportunity to see one of these kayaks in person. it looks like it would hold up fairly well to decent conditions but I am more interested in how it would handle launches and landings. Does it get a little squirly???? How does it handle in mixed swells??? Seems like a lot of tail end movement but I wouldn't know without doing a demo. Not trying to mess with design but just curious about it. Looks like it would be great for going down a river and fly fishing in that is for sure! How is the storage??? Would be great to have the rod pod type application or have some sort of storage compartment near your leg so that you could put certain rods on certain sides while launching and landing. Just a couple thoughts.

Also, SD is a minimum of 4 hours to SLO and Cambria is another 30-40 minutes NW from there. Used to make the trek from SD to SLO every weekend for a few months. Watchout for highway patrol on the stretch from Ventura through Santa Maria on the 101. If you get pulled over.....don't say I didn't tell you.

[Baitman]

Pismo Beach, Central Coast Kayaks has a demo boat. No better way to understand it than to take one for a test ride.
I've watched a guy stand up paddle and surf it all the way onto the beach. Wish I had the camera then... Stand up flyfishing would be better suited to the Sit In model. It's a little more stable and has that large flat platform in it below the waterline.
Mixed swells, large boat wakes... you just kinda forget they exist in this yak. Seriously,, not a salesman talking here. It's what I hear others say.
If you get time for a demo, I would love to get your opinion.

Going out through a big wave is always easy.. it's coming in that gets tricky.

[junglejim]

got out on Saturday on my first trip. Only spent a couple hours mostly paddling although I did bring a rod. The kayak paddled well. I was able to stand up and fish. I have 2 ocean kayaks and have not been able to do that. You can move around quite easily with out fear of hitting the drink. This is a great kayak for someone wanting a stable platform to fish and still have some speed to get where you want. I did have some wind and waves and it did very well into both!

[Baitman]

Opener of crab season up here in Half Moon Bay... Got 7 dungies in just a few hours of soak time. Flat water,,, SoCal like weather... Awesome day OTW

I'm headed down south next Monday, I have to be in Ontario.. Going to have a few days to kill. Anyone going out fishing that won't mind if I tag along with? I have no idea where to launch...
Thanks Jim