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ful-rac
09-20-2012, 03:21 PM
For those who are interested this is a knot thats good for doubling the line or for making a dropper loop. Stronger than the regular dropper loop and stronger than the spider hitch. Invented by Roy Rose of the Royal Polaris, it's a strong knot for sure.

First step double the line to however long you want the loop.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/7BFD66A2-D35C-44A9-9F3A-B37F274EE56F-458-0000005C9C82EC0A_zps15daf4ac.jpg

Second step make a loop with the doubled line.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/99C7B538-7D2F-454E-9037-1BCE2747E1C7-458-0000005CA476C250_zpsbd5a9293.jpg

Third step make 5 overhand wraps.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/65836447-454B-44F9-AD40-18B4925FE471-458-0000005CAAB2BF34_zps20ed8dbf.jpg

Fourth step pull together, making sure that all 4 legs of the knot are even when cinching down. (critical!)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/9F040BEB-B74B-4D1A-BA35-E13CCAED192F-458-0000005CB13358B8_zpsa7003e9a.jpg

Fifth step Cinch down, should look something like this.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u217/pksbshp/E5BC1459-66D4-4E52-B6A9-A69B04475A3A-458-0000005CB7268E55_zpsdba0e6ed.jpg

If you want to fish a dropper cut the loop to whatever length you desire, and tie on your hook and sinker.

jorluivil
09-20-2012, 04:00 PM
grease monkey

StinkyMatt
09-20-2012, 06:51 PM
Can you just tie my knots at the launch?


I will let you follow me on the water.:D


Trying it out right now, thanks Tony.

Sdspeed
09-20-2012, 06:54 PM
How about a entire video course!

MarkT
09-20-2012, 06:55 PM
A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Sdspeed
09-20-2012, 07:13 PM
A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

so I have inferior knots keeping my rotator cuffs in place :(

TCS
09-20-2012, 07:17 PM
I learned it with 6 turns. Wonder what the difference is. A lot of people use 3 way swivels these days.

bus kid
09-20-2012, 09:29 PM
Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

MVC
09-21-2012, 05:38 AM
I caught this a couple of weeks ago using a 3 way swivel. I tie the swivel straight to the braid, 30 pound to the hook and 15 pound to the sinker.http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo287/MVC1955/WhiteSeaBass010.jpg

RockyRaab
09-21-2012, 07:50 AM
It's nothing more than a five-turn surgeon's knot (as mentioned) or a doubled uni-knot. But I suppose if somebody wants to name a knot after himself, he can...

ful-rac
09-21-2012, 08:26 AM
A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later! ;)

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!

bellcon
09-21-2012, 08:35 AM
Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later! ;)

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!


Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into:rolleyes:

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.:pcguru:

ful-rac
09-21-2012, 08:49 AM
Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into:rolleyes:

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.:pcguru:

That's ok they can sink thier teeth into this one, all in good fun, gotta keep things interesting around here! Drama......Hook uuuuuppp!!!! Spectra to leader knot coming up....

Dirty Curti
09-21-2012, 09:55 AM
Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

You had to go there!:banghead::banghead:

RockyRaab
09-21-2012, 01:35 PM
Wasn't throwing stones. It looks like a perfectly good knot, and if it's a modification of something else that the good Mr Rose developed, he CAN name it after himself.

Now for the Rocky knot, do I combine the Trilene knot with a Uni for hook tying -- or back-back unis with the ends tucked between the strands blood knot style for joining lines? Decisions decisions...

roby
09-22-2012, 05:41 PM
Thanks for the pics Big Tony....

Most of the knots you've shown me I've put to good use...