2/17-2/18 round up

[tylerdurden]

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/images/homepageimages/tyler.jpg

Weekend wrap.

Saturday. I couldn't catch a yt no matter how hard I tried. :D 47# of ghost at the OEX scale:
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/2/IMG_2610_crop.jpg

Sunday I finally found my :yt:. 20+ on Andy's digi:
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_2619.JPG

Dinner tonight kicked some serious ass.

[nmbrinkman]

Tis a good feeling isn't it? Yesterday I was doing the "happy paddle" as ken calls it....

[lamb]

Ken owns love to fish LJ license plate.

Tyler, awesome run, congrats!

:star:

That first big silver one with the pink apple in it's throat - what kind of fish is it and is it good to eat?







lol

[steveooo]

SICK WSB!!!!!!

[Corey]

THE MAN!:luxhello: :you_rock:

[ski]

Nice fish, Tyler!
:cheers1:

[fishdude]

Great catch. Congrats:eek: May I ask where, what bait and when.
Im still waiting for my fish finder to return and hope to join in on the fun soon.
Thanks for the report.
Fshdude

[nmbrinkman]

I think it's safe to assueme La Jolla, iron and morning (in that order)...

[Surfdad]

Toad white.:notworthy:

Great job!

[madscientist]

Great fish Tyler. I was getting grumpy as the fleet showed up and parked all around me, especially as the bendo's started. Finally got hammered on the iron and as I got a few cranks into it, the bait rod starts singing....DOUBLE HOOKUP!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v461/katchfish/2007-02-17LJ042rz.jpg

They ran in opposite directions so I didn't get towed, just stuck in the middle watching line peel off of both reels. Stayed with the iron fish and slowly worked him in, periodically reeling in any slack on the bait rod still behind me. Dropped my gaff somewhere along the line but Ken was nice enough to paddle over and throw it back. Got the first fish stuck and went to work on the bait fish. He was still frisky even after the long dead sticked fight but it wasn't long before he found the gaff as well. I guessimate 18 and 22. Couple other OEX friends doubled up as well.

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Fished Sunday but it was much slower. Saw a couple fish landed but the combined plastic and pber fleet didn't do very well. Nasty wind kicked up early and spoiled the day.

[Iceman]

I had to work Saturday, after the "rumors" of WSB and multiple YT for most I had to abort my fresh water large mouth bass mission planned for Sunday:D

Glad I did. 7AM among the fleet, I had only seen one pber go bendo and my deadstick 6xjr went BENDO in the rod holder.

27+

Thanks for the pic Martin, I would have loved to see Clay get one of these:D

It has to be the new lucky hat:D

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/2-18yt.jpg

[Dan]

F'n Andy, Brad, Tyler, Pat, Cris :luxhello: :captain: :notworthy:

[dmr]

Nice weekend of fishing guys.

[esdees]

I'm glad it finally busted open, great catches guys. I got a couple peanut sized yellows and a video of a turtle. Not a bad weekend. Too bad the weather didn't agree with the holiday today.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q180/esdees/turtle_3.jpg

-Patrick

[Dennis]

Come on, guys... We all know that LJ holds some big fish, but why all the secrecy. Catching a hard pulling yellow, or limp WSB is something a lot of us think about especially at an uncrowded La Jolla. But, don't post BS here. I hate to sound like an ass... But, how many people do you actually see launching/fishing LJ in the winter months when the bite is slow, or minimal... not a lot. We fish La Jolla regardless. But, when the bite is hot everyone is out just because they read somewhere that the same 1-5 guys who plug away out there caught a yellowtail... Then, everyone is saying that the fishing sucks. BS! I'm kind question posting now. Congrat's to all who caught, and don't think I'm mad because I wasn't out there... Because, I still got yt in the freezer.
This is a kayakfishing site.. This is where you get a lot of information about fishing out there... This is where you should be sharing information with your fellow yakers, and not holding back.. Last.
Peace,
Dennis

[Ryan The Sealion]

I was getting grumpy as the fleet showed up and parked all around me

la jolla is not yours brad...everyone shares numbers with their friends so don't kid yourself by thinking everyone wants to fish by the almighty "kill everything he catches/fish 7 rods at a time" scientist...:adore: :rolleyes:

[Jax Yak]

Great weekend Guys! Thanks to all who posted their catch.
I agree with Dennis that the BS sucks.
Jack

[chefstefano]

Great catches over Saturday & Sunday:cheers1: can't wait to be able to join the fun:kayak-surfer: :trytofly:

[Dennis]

I agree with Dennis that the BS sucks.
Jack

I can't even find my reply, anymore. I like to post, because it's a report for my fellow kayakers about fishing conditions etc... Not for fame, or to say "Look what I got". Make it a private forum... Nah, I just won't post anymore. It's been fun.
-Dennis

[madscientist]

la jolla is not yours brad...everyone shares numbers with their friends so don't kid yourself by thinking everyone wants to fish by the almighty "kill everything he catches/fish 7 rods at a time" scientist...:adore: :rolleyes:


Whatever Ryan, jealousy doesn't become you. :D

The thing that bothers me is when guys use me or the other "regulars" as a reference. I was well off the "spot", just preparing to move back up, when a pair of guys pull up on either side, 50 ft away. I never slide in on anyone other than a friend. There is a certain buffer zone that I think most of us use and respect and it's annoying when someone gets closer than that for no reason. In fact, it's better for all if we spread out and find them, rather than stacking up on one spot.

[BWE]

I can't even find my reply, anymore. -Dennis

Dennis, you seemed to have posted twice, and deleted both of them yourself.

As it sounds like you didn't intend to remove that post, one of your replies has just been restored (they're both the same).

[ski]

:boxing: C'mon peeps! What happened to the old comraderie?
Fu@k it!
It's only fishing :cheers1:

[Ryan The Sealion]

Whatever Ryan, jealousy doesn't become you. :D

The thing that bothers me is when guys use me or the other "regulars" as a reference. I was well off the "spot", just preparing to move back up, when a pair of guys pull up on either side, 50 ft away. I never slide in on anyone other than a friend. There is a certain buffer zone that I think most of us use and respect and it's annoying when someone gets closer than that for no reason. In fact, it's better for all if we spread out and find them, rather than stacking up on one spot.

I agree...I hate when people I don't know drag 100 yds. of line right next to me..you just pissed me off when I was pulling up to dan last thursday (with no lines in the water) to say whats up, and you lied right to my face as if to say get the hell away theres no yt around here..not cool man..

[dgax65]

The thing that bothers me is when guys use me or the other "regulars" as a reference. I was well off the "spot", just preparing to move back up, when a pair of guys pull up on either side, 50 ft away. I never slide in on anyone other than a friend. There is a certain buffer zone that I think most of us use and respect and it's annoying when someone gets closer than that for no reason. In fact, it's better for all if we spread out and find them, rather than stacking up on one spot.

Are you sure they weren't drawn in close by the smell of burgers on the grill:hmmmm2:

Perhaps we should have a sticky thread: "La Jolla Kayak Fishing Rules of Etiquette". The "regulars" (the camouflage fleet) could list what they feel to be standards of good conduct. This could be valuable for all of the neophytes that use this forum. It might help with the learning curve and reduce some of the hard feelings that have come to light over the last few days. Censoring reports or just not posting really takes from the value of the forum. Obviously, the forum is only as good as the information that is posted. I know it has to be a pain in the ass when the typical LJ winter weekday solitude is shattered by a crowd of yaks and stinkboaters drawn by a couple of good reports. That's an unfortunate byproduct of the growing popularity of the sport. As annoying as it can be, I'd keep in mind that this increased popularity has also had some positive impact: more and better paddle shops, a wide variety of new, fishing-specific kayaks and accessories and team sponsorships.
One more thought; the Saturday crowd wasn't necessarily a direct result of posted reports. The fact that best weather in a month happened at the start of a holiday weekend could also have had some impact. I noticed that there were more small boats running around San Diego Bay this weekend than all of the last 4 weekends combined.
I would hope that the regulars will continue to provide timely reports. There is some great info on this forum and it provides some cheap entertainment for those who can't get out on a regular basis. I'd also hope that everybody can show a little respect to their fellow anglers and give them some fishing room. :cheers1:

[tylerdurden]

I really enjoy others peoples fish reports. They don't have to give classified details, and the report doesn't even have to be timely. I just really enjoy looking at the pictures of nice fish with happy fisherman, and hearing their cool anecdotes and stories about the day, even if there is nothing really usefull said.

When I was just a newbie at this I used to be annoyed when people didn't put detail into their reports. Now I don't care. Go out and make your own report. I sometimes can read between the lines anyways.

As for the people that fish all the time and have the real time info, it is their perogative as to whether or not they want to make it public. They spent their time on the water, and the info they got is theirs to do as they please. The combination of all the boats/kayaks all with their own sonar, bait tanks, motors etc on one spot does drive the bite down. On Sunday there wasn't even enough space between all the watercraft for the fish to come up and boil even if they wanted to.

To answer a couple questions
wsb, greenie
yt, iron
both hooked early

How did a weekend roundup turn into a pissing contest?

[dgax65]

Tyler
Why don't you take a week off and go to Mexico. Maybe the sh*t you started with this post will have died down by then:rolleyes:

[madscientist]

Ryan, you came up and asked if they were cuda. I thought you were being funny, given the huge boils, so I said "yeah" with a big sarcastic grin. I thought you realized I was being facetious and after I heard Dan tell you what happened I knew you were filled in anyway. I was also frustrated since that was the 5th trip in a row where I had big YT boiling all around me but couldn't get them to bite. I'd prefer it you PM'ed me if you thought I was dissing you, rather than call me names on the board, but it made me chuckle anyhow. BTW, I released 3 sandies, a calico, and an out-of-season whitefish last week. Not bad for "kill everything that hits my line". But I did punch the calico in the head (j/k). lollol

The bigger issue here is that some people feel they are somehow entitled to current reports. I don't get this, but it seems to happen on all the boards as they grow. When I started fishing here, I posted religiously as a form of payback for all of the excellent information I had absorbed from the boards. I tried to earn the respect of the regulars with whom I shared the water by fishing hard, being interested but not pushy, and doing my best to follow the unspoken etiquette that exists. Then at some point, I started getting a lot of PMs from people I've never met asking for precise fishing spots, current weather reports, and whatnot. At this point, I fish regardless of current reports and, unless it's from someone I know and trust, I consider most publicly posted info to be highly suspect at best.

I've come around to Adi's point of view about a closed forum for WCW. Not as a means to exclude anyone, but so that we all know who we are talking to. Friday night there were over 25 "guest" accounts viewing this board compared to a handful of registered users. It's easy to get fooled into thinking we are talking among ourselves (the 30-40 people who regularly post a report or comment) but the reality is that all those "guests" are soaking up information without contributing as much as a "nice fish" comment.

[Iceman]

I am not speaking as BWE as a whole but as a contributing member with some input.

Posting (or not) is completely a personal preference, as well as how much detail and when you post. There has always been an unspoken "don't tell someone elses story" I think the decision to close the reports to members only was a smart one (you now have to log in to view just the reports section) because it keeps it in the family, the bigger a forum gets the less intimate.

I also get a big kick out of the information that I willingly share, just maybe contributing to someones sucess. There were some people who got their first winter yt and I'd like to think that I put that above me getting my 3rd...this year.

We are all individuals posting. I am kind of surprized by some of the responses, but not completely. Some decisions individuals have made would be better for the whole if not spelled out, just post if you want and include what you want, when you want.

[lamb]

Well said Andy.

We’re all entitled to have our own opinion, and we ought to be able to freely share it.

I’m sorry if some people may have been hurt or upset by my remarks. Although I've been heavily involved with BWE board tech upgrade lately, I’d like to emphasize that the comments I make by no means reflect “BWE Politics”. I'm just an individual contributor; my comments are my personal take on any given subject. Whenever the subject is “touchy”, I make sure I indicate that. I did that in this last tourbulent episode.

On making WCW only private board – as far as I know, that idea has never found any wider acceptance in BWE circles. I still think it’s a great idea. For one, you’d never have situations like this…

Another solution would be to turn off the frakin’ internet… lol Where's the button?

http://turnofftheinternet.com/

[dorado50]

Fishing is supposed to be challenging. And finding fish is part of it. Common courtesy says that if a guy is fishing on or around a certain spot stay away, stay on the outside, and or,find your on fish. First come first served like a kelp paddy maybe ? Next point, if people and or boats are around you and your annoyed move away, or sink their ship. Find your own fish! I personally pay a high price for not sliding up on others fishing ,in my kayak or my boat, not catching a fish but at least when I do catch fish I found them! not someone else.

[Ryan The Sealion]

Ryan, you came up and asked if they were cuda. I thought you were being funny, given the huge boils, so I said "yeah" with a big sarcastic grin. I thought you realized I was being facetious and after I heard Dan tell you what happened I knew you were filled in anyway. I was also frustrated since that was the 5th trip in a row where I had big YT boiling all around me but couldn't get them to bite. I'd prefer it you PM'ed me if you thought I was dissing you, rather than call me names on the board, but it made me chuckle anyhow.

I dunno man you seemed pretty serious when I asked you..Me n D were actually on our way in cuz the cuda were getting pesky, but a spot of yellow popped up in front of us right outside the reserve... then we saw the birds on you guys...Figured I'd go ask dan it was cuda or tail..when I got there you said "yeah just cuda"... you posted the same thing in ur report (that you just saw a bunch of cuda) , when you really had YT damn near bumping ur yaks. ;)

I could care less what people post..I actually like it better when it's slow cuz theres no crowd :D

[Ryan The Sealion]

btw brad ur still the "kill everything you catch/7 rod @ a time" scientist...I just hope someday...if I'm dumb enough to get married...I have the bitch under control as good as you and am able to fish as much as you do :notworthy: :the_finger:

[nmbrinkman]

I'm all for a private board... I only posted my report because there were YT reports the last half of last week and then some on Saturday. If it's a deal, I'll just take to PMs and send it to friends and aquaintances. If anyone has a problem with what I do.. on here or on the water, let me know. There is a good chance that I didn't do it on purpose and would like to know what not to do... I still consider myselp a noob who has a lot to learn...

[madscientist]

Ryan, I did see a bunch of cuda. I never posted that that was all I saw. You told me the same thing.

Funny thing, most women don't like being called "bitch". But it's amazing what they'll let you get away with if you treat them with respect. :D

[Ryan The Sealion]

Ryan, I did see a bunch of cuda. I never posted that that was all I saw. You told me the same thing.

Funny thing, most women don't like being called "bitch". But it's amazing what they'll let you get away with if you treat them with respect. :D

@ my age its the opposite :eek: treat em like dirt and they are in love...give em respect and they try to walk all over ya :lol1:

[madscientist]

So, to sum up...

http://www.bloodydecks.com/gallery/files/4/7/3/0/dilbert2006114659027.gif

[DESTROYER]

LOCALS ONLY:the_finger:

C'mon guys! Andy said it the best, then again, Andy's always been a class act...go figure:notworthy: . I for one could see though the post, call it experience, but when the shit gets thick and post get long when there saying nothing was caught:idea: . I for one think people take the internet way to serious. Even these icons sometimes can't help you not look like a jerk. I was lucky enough to get into kayak fishing a long while back. We used to have LJ all to ourselves and I gotta say, I like it better now when you have 30 of your closest friends out there. I counted 25+ kayakers out there on Sunday and who got the YT.....Andy, Tyler Durden, and Gary Sulliven. There were a lot of other great fisherman out there, I guess what I'm trying to say, it doesn't matter if the yakkers are stacked up on any given day, the usual suspects almost always get their fish.

I've got to say to Brad, you did this to yourself posting all those sweet pictures of your catches. Your face has become a icon on this site and Bloody Decks. If you don't want people fishing next to you, blur your face out. I was saying to Todd as we went back in on Sunday, "Look at all those PB around the Dolphin"! "You would think that if you spent $30,000 on a boat, you could find your own spot". Most fisherman don't trust their own instincts and that's why they follow you, plus your good. Take it as a compliment:cheers1:

My 2 CENTS!

Matt Moyer

[frugalfisher]

Someday I'll get one.:)

[dos ballenas]

can't we all just get alomg? come on guys, its only gonna get worse, you cant stop the population, or can you? That ghost looks mean, or dead:the_finger:

[chefstefano]

I am new on this broad & as well as La Jolla Kayak fishing ........I grew up in this area but have been living in Monterey for a long while working as a chef. I would be fishing Big Sur A lot by myself no other kayaks (most of the time) and no motor boats it was great but lonely as well. I was always on the nor cal site ( they hosted a huge benefit for me fighting my cancer)and made a bunch of great friends (over the years) that I fished with as much as possible. now I find myself back down in San Diego living with my parents because I am battling cancer in which I almost died from. I am coming back and getting stronger and should hopefully be back fishing off my yak in La Jolla by April. why I am telling you all this....... your posts on here as well as La Jolla kayaking site have been a Strong force in keeping me going :you_rock: something to look forward to....a passion of mine that I have not been able to do for months.........So thank all you and please keep them coming:yt: I have met a few of you guys and can't wait to be able to fish with you :D

Steve/ chefstefano

[cabojohn]

:the_finger:
I'm all for BS & secrecy!


:stoned: :canabis: lol :you_rock:

Love all the smileys...but this is my all time favorite - :arne1:

[lamb]

Chefstefano...

Thanks for putting us back down to the ground!

We're looking forward to seeing you back on the water in spring. :cool:

[Arne]

Love all the smileys...but this is my all time favorite - :arne1:

mine too :cool:
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/hedgeassist/IMG_0662.jpg

[metalbob]

So guys? what is the preffered ettiqette while fishing LJ,i mean Distance wise from other yakers etc... can i hail someone if i need help ?etc...

I just wanna have a good time and not piss anyone off in the process while being respectfull of their areas.

thanks

METALBOB

[Corey]

Chefstefano, I'm looking forward to fishng with you again soon, man. Take care, and I'll see you out there.:kayak-surfer: :cheers1:

[Iceman]

Here's Steve:D

http://thelog.com/news/newsview.asp?c=205639

Thanks for the great photo Steve, The offer to assist in getting you out on the water was sincere. Take me up on it!

:paddleersmilie: :paddleersmilie:

[madscientist]

So guys? what is the preffered ettiqette while fishing LJ,i mean Distance wise from other yakers etc... can i hail someone if i need help ?etc...

I just wanna have a good time and not piss anyone off in the process while being respectfull of their areas.

thanks

METALBOB

Distance wise I like double iron flinging range, meaning that if we both throw iron at each other our lines should not cross. Certainly never within iron range if it can be avoided. If you want to paddle up to someone you don't know to talk, I think it's nice if you make sure you don't have lines out.

I don't mind if friends I know well fish closer, because I know they will know what to do if either of us hooks up. Besides, Pat loves pluncking irons 3ft off my stern if I'm drifting in range of him.:D

[tylerdurden]

To paddle up next to someone to talk:

pull your lines in so as not to tangle, or
If you are both paddling/trolling, Both your lines should be trailing each other. Pull up parallel to them either facing the same direction or facing the other way.

If they are drifting, note which was the drift is, and pull up and on downwind side of them so you don't cross their lines.

If I am sitting close to someone, and they hookup I either pull my lines in tight and get out a camera, or paddle away. If they did tangle with my lines, I would cut/give slack to my lines to give them a shot at a fish.

[dorado50]

Sounds to me that a few of you guys think of yourselves as the ones who wrote the book! Always assuming aren't we, If a person is close to you then its automatic he does'nt know what to do in case of your hook-up ?? Come on man , some of us have many,many years of fishing experience in all different types of platforms. We are not GODS but fisherman.

[nmbrinkman]

...Come on man , some of us have many,many years of fishing experience...

And some don't... If it's not directed at you then don't take offense to it. There are a ton of people out there who have no idea or common sense regarding things like this.

[screaming reel]

Hey, did any of you yakers, notice how awsome a day it was on saturday. The sunrise was incredible. The seas were flat, the sun was warm, and the fishing was good. I got mine, and I believe it was right by brad after he got his duce. I don't think I could have hit him with an iron but next time I will try. Good talking to you at the pier Adi, and thanks for posting the pics, I was going anyway though.

[screaming reel]

and just because i have only 4 posts does'nt mean I am new to this sport!

[madscientist]

Sounds to me that a few of you guys think of yourselves as the ones who wrote the book! Always assuming aren't we, If a person is close to you then its automatic he does'nt know what to do in case of your hook-up ?? Come on man , some of us have many,many years of fishing experience in all different types of platforms. We are not GODS but fisherman.


Chill out, if you know what you're doing then none of this is aimed at you. Someone asked a question about distance and etiquette and we are providing our two cents. And yes, I always assume someone near me may not know what to do, because if you assume the opposite you may have a problem at the worst time. I lost a fish in a tournament because a guy wasn't paying attention as I was towed towards him. Ended up with his line around my neck.

You know, this board is getting really whiny lately. If you post information, people take offense. If you don't post information, people take offense. It's a fricken internet forum, fer kriz sakes. Stop complaining and go fishing.:paddleersmilie:

Or we could have a 60 post thread about the merits of C&R calico fishing, just for old time's sake.lollollol

[tattuna]

You know, this board is getting really whiny lately. If you post information, people take offense. If you don't post information, people take offense. It's a fricken internet forum, fer kriz sakes. Stop complaining and go fishing.:paddleersmilie:



AMEN!

['Cuda]

You guys might want to rethink this new junior member-senior member ranking thing.....I think it's already created some jealousy.
Remember your first few paddles out on your new kayak, the sun rising, a big broad smile on your face when a float and a few small Cali's were enough?....the Zen. We all get a little wound up but take a few deep breaths and smell the seaweed.
See ya in Mexico.

[Iceman]

You guys might want to rethink this new junior member-senior member ranking thing.....I think it's already created some jealousy.


It looks like we have it set according to the number of posts, probably less than 10 is Jr, then member and senior at 100+

[Zed]

Maybe "Massive Member" for the biggest di[khead?

:hmmmm:
I've definitely got Member Envy, though. Ha.

Z

[cabojohn]

I think its called "Poster Baiting"? eh. :D
Anything to raise yer post count...so one can get off the porch & run with the big dogs.lol

Guilty as charged.

[dorado50]

Funny, now I'm the bad guy for responding to . what I percieved to be , a couple of complaints made in the eariler posts!! Time to move on..lol

[kenishere]

:you_rock: Respect to all of the regular posters here. I dont get out much, but when i do, i always try to follow as much of the etiquette as possible to max out the experiece and KARMA, this site rocks!!!:luxhello:

[nmbrinkman]

Funny, now I'm the bad guy for responding to . what I percieved to be , a couple of complaints made in the eariler posts!! Time to move on..lol
Nobody said your the bad guy... Just don't wear the shoe if it doesn't fit... As for this whole junior/senior member crap.. Who cares? I'd like to think most guys don't really pay attention to the titles.. It's about contribution, ability and attitude. I remember (because it wasn't that long ago) getting on this board and seeing amazing fishing reports and recognizing the vast amount of fishing knowledge that set them apart from me. I asked some pretty noob stuff. I'm pretty sure Brad and Andy can attest to some of it. Most of answered and some not. As I'm finding out, and I know it's a cliche around here, time on the water answers them for me.

[goldenarrow]

I am one of the bastards that reads the reports on your site every week but never contributes anything. Mostly because I dont have anythind to contribute about fishing la jolla. In fact I have never been there I live 3 hours from the ocean and 6 or seven from la jolla. I bet if I lived there I would be one of the regulars. But the fact is I don't, I can only make it to the ocean @ 15 times a year and la jolla once or twice a year. So I wait and I watch the reports and when I have the time and the fishing seems good I will come down and try my luck. I might even fish within 100 yds of sombody elce because I dont have my own spots and I dont have the time on the water to find them. hopefuly I can make some friends down there that will show me the ropes And I would show them the ropes for somthing I know how to do like salmon.


Please keep the boards public and don't poast if you don't want any body to know!

[steveooo]

I might even fish within 100 yds of sombody elce
Don't.

I am neither a regular or a noob. I fish when I can, post when I can. It is one thing to read reports from the guys that are lucky enough to fish regularly in Mecca (LJ) an dnice enough to report about it. We all appreciate fishing reports, information about tricks of the trade, and especially a good report with a pic of a happy yakker holding a toad yeller. It is a whole different story to invade their fishing space, turning a relaxing hobby for them into a stressful time trying to avoid a crowd like a celeb running from the papparatzi.
It is a matter of courtesy and respect. I appreciate the guys that post regularly, so as I am stuck at a desk, I can live vicariously through a well written report. Some of the guys put so much thought into their reports that I swear I can smell the ocean as I am reading. Even if I am not fortunate enough to be able to write a fishing report more than a few times a year, I will usually throw in a little "congrats" or "nice fish" to show appreciation for the time and effort that many of the big dogs put into this board. I think that many of the "lurkers" could and should do the same.
Also the ocean is a BIG place. It should not be automatic that once out of the preserve at LJ, that many anglers look for the camo striped kayaks that they can go crowd in hopes of getting a big hook-up, without putting in the time and effort of looking for thier own fish. Is there any pride in that? Just my opinion.
Overall, the Kayak fishing community is helpful to each other, supportive to noobs as well as veterans, and a good resource and recreation for those that read the boards. It is a shame to see that so many, including myself, take it for granted as much as we do.
So, to the guys that positively contribute to this board :you_rock:

To the rest :the_finger:

[goldenarrow]

I think 100 yards is outside of everybodys personal space I doubt if I can toss a jig 50 yards from the kayak. I dont want to croud but in a place you don't know the best way to find fish is to look for birds or other boats if the fish arent holding neer structure like kelp or rocks.

As far as poasting nice fish or way to go I would but 30 other people uasualy already have. I came from boards were you got flamed for postings without any real content, padding your post count and wasting bandwith.

[kayak jack]

I can't even find my reply, anymore. I like to post, because it's a report for my fellow kayakers about fishing conditions etc... Not for fame, or to say "Look what I got". Make it a private forum... Nah, I just won't post anymore. It's been fun.
-Dennis
If you don't post, isn't that just what some people want. You know this secret stuff reminds me of the surfers that think a beach is theirs, and if your not one of the regulars they screw with you, and your ride. I guess somethings never change. To bad.

[nmbrinkman]

If you don't post, isn't that just what some people want. You know this secret stuff reminds me of the surfers that think a beach is theirs, and if your not one of the regulars they screw with you, and your ride. I guess somethings never change. To bad.


I don't think that is the case at all. Some are just trying to encourage proactive fishing, rather than reactive. Go whenever and not just when you see 3 dudes holding up 5 fish. You'll find nothing but respect and generousity from 99% of the guys who fish LJ frequently, you'll never find a locals-only attitude from them.

[Brian Sanner]

When I first started fishing LJ I didn't even own a computer. I would hear through friends that some fish were being caught and the first avaliable weekend I would go. I have had several long strings of busted trips (I think 9 in a row), before I would have one or two that really paid off. I learned alot by watching the "regulars" out there and simply by just doing it. Nothing cures not knowing how to do it better than just getting out there and fishing, observe without encroaching and if the situation permits, asking questions. I think that alot of fishermen, hunters, surfers, what ever are or tend to be clickish (spelling was not my major) and just takes time to fit in. Of course they may feel like they need to protect info, but no matter how good the secret is kept there is always some one out there, maybe not part of the group of LJ regulars, who ends up passing the info on about a hot bite.

[metalbob]

Thanks to all who helped out with the LJ fishing ettiquette!
this helps me greatly so i know what not to do out there,believe me the last thing i want is to have Fellow yakkers give me the evil eye!

i'll be sure to stay out of "iron chucking range".

would it be cool though if i hail someone if i need help landing a fish?
i just want to learn and have positive experiences from fishing the Big Water.

thanks to every one, who replied regarding ettiquette!

METALBOB.., King Diamond rules. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa set the crosssss on the altar...:evil:

[Iceman]

would it be cool though if i hail someone if i need help landing a fish?


Hell Ya! I don't think there is anybody out there that would be put off in offering ANY kind of assistance.

[SAR]

Hail Away Metalbob. I bet 99.9% of the people out there would actually enjoy helping you out. Hope to see you on the water! (feel free to hail me)

[wavster]

I started reading this thread to hear more about Tyler's WSB. This is a long thread that's gotten way off track. I'm new to this board, but I normally frequent another board. I have to say, I've never heard so much whining.

I've been kayak fishing since last September. I caught a Yellowtail my first week and I didn't even know what it was. I caught it on a bass rod with a spinning reel and 12lb. test. Though the fish was small (8lbs.), the fight was awesome. I was instantly hooked. I caught 2 more the following week and have been kayak fishing regularly since then. I usually will fish 2-3 times per week. I've even got my 2 oldest girls into it (11 & 13).

Anyone who expects these boards to be more than a venue for chats, sporadic reports and an occassional tip, expects too much. If you want to learn how to consistently catch fish, then go fishing (and read these boards).

How many of you were out there today? It was cold, windy, and lousy, yet I was out there knowing that I'd probably get skunked. I knew the conditions weren't good, but I go for enjoyment. I want to learn, and try different things. Too many of you expect the "regulars" to give all their secrets away. There defintely should be some pride in the fact that some people always seem to catch more fish. They've earned that through experience. To think that they should give that knowledge away freely is expecting way too much.

...ok, now that being said, I'd like to know what Tyler used to catch the WSB, along with GPS coordinates, the rod and reel type, what lb. test, the phase of the moon on that day and the rate he was reeling in his line along with the soap he used that day (if he handles his bait/lures, his scent is on them, you know). :)

[Dennis]

lollollol...
WOW, just like a BD thread.

Yeah, we were out yesterday and got sprinkled on... Hoping for nothing.. But, Ryan caught. I've already appologized to Tyler for the thread-jack. I posted my reply on the wrong one. And now look, #71.

[bearlythere]

Besides if your going to ask for legitamate fishing secrets and spots dont you know you must hand the person your asking a nice frosty one or two or three........That always is correct edicate for aproching another fisherman..... works like a charm....Bait the regulars and they will come....yelow tail pale ale on board.....

[bluesquids]

Besides if your going to ask for legitamate fishing secrets and spots dont you know you must hand the person your asking a nice frosty one or two or three........That always is correct edicate for aproching another fisherman..... works like a charm....Bait the regulars and they will come....yelow tail pale ale on board.....

Amen to that Brudda...I was "Bearlythere" after that night with you and Ari.
I think there needs to be another ClubNonClub meeting before someone calls Dr. Phil.

[Kevin]

Quick recap of the thread


What there's fish in La jolla! :vroam:

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Neophyte regulars
:heeeelllllooooo: :viking: :argh:

And life goes on for those who seek and find their own fish.

:yt: :bandit: :yt: :kayak-surfer:


:reddy: Kevin

[Dennis]

lollollollol75

[jscott]

Very funny!lol lol

Just get on the water when you can....reports or not. That's what it's about. Enjoy the environment, the exercise, the solitude, and the chance to catch fish! I go for the adventure....regularly fishing malibu and making down to LJ about 1-2X month. I appreciate timely reports, but do not base my decision to go on that--- When I'm going-- I'm going-- the reports just give me a heads up of what to expect. I base my decision to go usually only based on what days I have off and the weather reports.

My best fish have come on what others would call 'OFF' days.

Just get out and :paddleersmilie:

-Scott

[bwana]

My first launch at LJ ended up with my first legal WSB ever (45+ pound), my first tow on a kayak, and my first gaffing my own fish.

I read the boundaries, located the launch, found parking, made bait, chased birds and caught the LJ bug. I did all that solo, without following anybody, or heading to where everyone else was.

To me that was way more rewarding than having someone hold my hand or pulling up on someone else's spot uninvited.

Karma is what you make of it.

[bigeye]

Is all of this because someone had a 5.1 ratio and couldn't get bit on the B/W? I just want you to know that those regulars are the reason some of us have a plastic boat! When I first started out Andy was a great help. Thanks Andy. And for those that don't like the crowd, there's a place for you called Baja. We all need to put this in perpective and take a deep breath! Most of us have spare time to post and to fish, but there's a lot of folks that don't have that luxury in this world. (did i sound like a democrat?) Anyway, enjoy the outdoors, take a kid fishing! And for God's sake be a man and don't call a woman a bitch, especially another man's wife! That's my two cents worth. Now lets all shut up and go fishing. The yellows will be wide open on monday! WORD!
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[nmbrinkman]

The yellows will be wide open on monday!

No it wont!



































Tomorrow morning dummy!;)

[dos ballenas]

100 yrd is three hundred feet right? that a lot of room if you ask me.