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TJones
02-05-2013, 10:30 AM
my mirage drive looks like it is chaffing the inside of the drive bay on my revo. mostly on one side . the yak is a 2012 . some wear is probably normal? do i wait till it is so weak and worn out , that it starts taking on water :paddleersmilie:. or is there something i can do ? possibly put some duct tape to slow down the wear and tear ? my mirage drive is a 2010 from my original outback. the drive has some slack in it . is this creating the problem? the black nylon legs are a little loose on the main shaft from use . any ideas?

JarrodMc
02-05-2013, 10:36 AM
Call Hobie

Iceman
02-05-2013, 11:00 AM
They can look pretty rough in there right out of the box, as excess is trimmed from the parting line. Post a photo

TJones
02-05-2013, 11:19 AM
Copy ice. When I get back home I will snap a photo. I estimate .5 mm taking off. I think I have heard of failures around this area. So I want to keep close track of what's going on.

jorluivil
02-05-2013, 12:45 PM
Copy ice. When I get back home I will snap a photo. I estimate .5 mm taking off. I think I have heard of failures around this area. So I want to keep close track of what's going on.

Can you post the pics please

TJones
02-05-2013, 01:45 PM
:ack2: . let me go to garage . brb.

TJones
02-05-2013, 02:28 PM
just to sync.

TJones
02-05-2013, 02:32 PM
so you could see the gap . if i could get some opinions on whether i should start thinking about replacing those nylon arms . i replaced a couple cables already that had a few frayed strands of wire . hopefully the other pictures can give you an idea of what i was referring to . maybe it is a minor concern ? or as i had mentioned before , like trying to slow the process down with tape?

driftwood
02-05-2013, 03:14 PM
Whoa nelly!!!!! Look at that gap on those drums! A gap that big on your drums is like having a real bad front wheel alignment on your car. Your tires are not going to wear evenly. Replace the drums ASAP!

Iceman
02-05-2013, 03:31 PM
drums are $16.50 a piece, I am guessing those saw an extended period of loose chains/cables at one time.

TJones
02-05-2013, 03:37 PM
it is pretty obvious in picture. at least 1 mm gap. and of course noticeable slop in drive mechanism .that might be why i am having contact on side of drive bay. my drive is a 2010 and i think i did not lube the shaft until recently. when i took the yak out , it would be for long hours on water . i probably should have broken it down and lube it more often . i might just pick up a new drive and then start rebuilding this one as a backup . anyone else have any opinions ?

TJones
02-05-2013, 03:39 PM
on the forum?

driftwood
02-05-2013, 03:50 PM
Whats wrong with just calling Andy on the Phone?

Drake
02-05-2013, 03:52 PM
i might just pick up a new drive and then start rebuilding this one as a backup . anyone else have any opinions ?

Yeah... just buy two new drums and an axel. It will take 10 minutes to replace. Why spend $500 on a drive?

Also, since you have this problem. I wouldn't be surprised if the shaft running through your fins has a lot of wear on them too.

I take apart and clean my drives once a month.


Which do you prefer?

Preventative Maintenance:

The care and servicing by personnel for the purpose of maintaining equipment and facilities in satisfactory operating condition by providing for systematic inspection, detection, and correction of incipient failures either before they occur or before they develop into major defects.


Corrective Maintenance:

Corrective maintenance is a maintenance task performed to identify, isolate, and rectify a fault so that the failed equipment, machine, or system can be restored to an operational condition within the tolerances or limits established for in-service operations.

TJones
02-05-2013, 04:06 PM
i should break em down every now and then . how do i find the post on adjusting the drive?

TJones
02-05-2013, 04:08 PM
found link.

driftwood
02-05-2013, 04:08 PM
Or you can sell that drive to me cheap. I'll slap on a new set of drums in 15 min and have a like new drive.

DanaPT
02-05-2013, 04:38 PM
systematic inspection, detection, and correction of incipient failures either before they occur or before they develop into major defects.

that's deep. I'm taking my drive apart this weekend.

jorluivil
02-05-2013, 04:46 PM
drums are $16.50 a piece, I am guessing those saw an extended period of loose chains/cables at one time.

Andy, when the drums are changed are there any non-reusable parts that would also need to be replaced?

Drake
02-05-2013, 05:41 PM
Andy, when the drums are changed are there any non-reusable parts that would also need to be replaced?

No...

Mirage drives are actually incredibly simple. In order to service them you only need two open ended wrenches and a alan wrench.

Paper towels, q-tips, soapy water, and grease

Unless your cables are stretched to the point of the lock nuts being bottomed out, or your main axel has grooves from friction; there is nothing else you would need to change.

jorluivil
02-05-2013, 07:10 PM
No...

Mirage drives are actually incredibly simple. In order to service them you only need two open ended wrenches and a alan wrench.

Paper towels, q-tips, soapy water, and grease

Unless your cables are stretched to the point of the lock nuts being bottomed out, or your main axel has grooves from friction; there is nothing else you would need to change.

Sounds good! I have some side to side wiggle on my drives, I need to change my drums before they start looking like Mr Jones' drive.

Drake
02-05-2013, 09:45 PM
Sounds good! I have some side to side wiggle on my drives, I need to change my drums before they start looking like Mr Jones' drive.

Before you change your drums follow Steveooo's post here (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=13592&highlight=mirage). I'm going to do a much more detailed one next time I do my drives.

I take all 6 nuts off so the chain will stay in the same place on the sprocket but to each their own.

The side to side slop will be mostly come from a loose idler cable (the one without the chain) give it a few turns on each side equally and as long as you're not bottomed out, it will tighten them up.

Also, when you pull the drums off and clean off your main axel, the regreasing of it will add more of a buffer between the drum hole and the axel so it won't wiggle as much. Be as generous as you can with the grease, the more you have the more difficult it is for sand to penetrate it's way into the space between the two.

Since the plastic is softer than the metal, the sand will "stick" or "embed" in the drums plastic. People are always surprised when the axel wears more than the drum itself but it's because the axel is rubbing on the sand and the sand remains in place on the drum.

Make sense?

RobFish
02-06-2013, 06:43 AM
You can always have your mechanic spin their magic wrenches for you too.
Had mine done recently, and the difference is truly amazing.
No clicking or noise, no slop or wiggle, just beautiful Mirage motivation.
Props to my mechanic.

Dannowar
02-06-2013, 07:11 AM
TRUST your mechanic

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