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madncrzydm
02-23-2013, 09:06 PM
Today I believe I was questioned by a fish and game guy. We were loading up our kayaks and had the cooler open with our fish in it and and a gentleman and his wife were walking by and came up and were looking at our catch and asked if he could buy one of our bass I told him no and our convo continued, then he asked again if he could buy one because he wanted to have some fesh fish for dinner and I told him no and informed him it was illegal and it could be a hefty fine and he laughed and said ok glad to hear it and said he was with fish and game and congratulated us on our catch and continied on. He didnt fit the profile of a game warden it just seemed kind of off to me. Anyone ever had any encounters like this before?

Dannowar
02-23-2013, 09:11 PM
Weird.

madncrzydm
02-23-2013, 09:19 PM
Very, like I said didnt fit the profile at all really nice guy though. ..

JarrodMc
02-23-2013, 09:23 PM
Very weird. They should do that at the c-bad power plant jetty at 6am to get the poachers..

flytuber4
02-23-2013, 11:00 PM
Wait... Its illegal to sell fish you catch to someone? WTF

madncrzydm
02-23-2013, 11:02 PM
Ive called cal tip on guys poaching lobster on the oside pier, Not sure if anyhting happened to them just hate seeing guys wrap a lobster t,hat's like 5 inches in total length, in newspaper and stuff it in a sack.:lobster:

madncrzydm
02-23-2013, 11:20 PM
yea on a sport fishing license

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/regulations/FreshFish-Mar2012/unlawfulactions.html

read number 7 on the list its fish and game code (FGC 7121)

Cbad Mike
02-24-2013, 12:37 AM
When I came in at sunset DFW was on the beach doing inspections and checking licenses. GOOD CALL BY YOU.

madncrzydm
02-24-2013, 01:01 AM
When I came in at sunset DFW was on the beach doing inspections and checking licenses. GOOD CALL BY YOU.
Interesting maybe he was a scout or something because this was around 330 ish

skrilla
02-24-2013, 08:15 AM
Sounds fishy. Was he in uniform? Did you request a badge number? I have friends who ran into plain clothed "dfg" while out fishing. When asked to produce a badge they stuttered and high tailed it outta there. Suspect it to be nothing more than a bunch of crazies trying to discourage from fishing in "their" ocean.

Next time ask for ID. Posing as an officer is a big no no. Have the phone ready if they refuse to produce.

bubblehide
02-24-2013, 09:10 AM
Actually it's common for F&G to go as a couple undercover. What's not common is to attempt entrapment, i.e., asking if they can buy the fish. If they had changed their question to something like: do you ever sell any fish, or, would you be willing to sell the fish, it would be a different story. But the way you put it, it was a direct offer, clearly making it entrapment. My guess, is that it was not F&G (F&W), but rather it was some zealots as previously mentioned.

madncrzydm
02-24-2013, 09:31 AM
Yea I wasnt to worried about asking for badge number or anything like that. And yes I do sgree that the way they way he was asking was total entrapment. If anything like that happens again ill just start my own lil gane of tactical questioning.

jorluivil
02-24-2013, 03:42 PM
Wait... Its illegal to sell fish you catch to someone? WTF



Yup. You can't sell, trade, barter, exchange, etc.

taggermike
02-24-2013, 03:55 PM
I've heard of the DFG catching fish sellers in the parking lots of the point loma landings when the tuna are around. Never heard that any where else. I've never seen a DFG presence at th LJ launch. Mike

sasha
02-24-2013, 04:56 PM
Can you give away your fish???

rhyak
02-24-2013, 05:11 PM
Can you give away your fish???


Yes you can gift your fish but not sell them, If you go fishing and catch a WSB and right now the limit being one you could not go out tomorrow and catch another and legally keep it. However if you lets say live with someone else wife, kids, parents, etc. You can give them the fish and catch another not problem.

deepdvr
02-24-2013, 06:54 PM
Yes you can gift your fish but not sell them, If you go fishing and catch a WSB and right now the limit being one you could not go out tomorrow and catch another and legally keep it. However if you lets say live with someone else wife, kids, parents, etc. You can give them the fish and catch another not problem.

WSB limit of 1 is only between March 15 - June 15. Feel free to kill 3 biscuits until then.

kantstudien
02-25-2013, 07:55 AM
Anti's pretending to be F&G?

Or a case of "sour grapes" to justify to himself why he couldn't cajole you out of a fish?

And if he was DFG I'm sure he would have been a very nice guy until you broke the law. Then I'm sure Hyde would have showed up.

This place is for people who don't fish:

http://www.yelp.com/biz/el-pescador-fish-market-la-jolla#query:fish%20market

j mo
02-25-2013, 08:36 AM
It's La jolla...
Try landing with with a WSB or YT on deck durring the high tourist season or a long weekend with sunshine . You will be hit with every question you could possibly imagine and some you couldn't; "where did you get that?" "is that real?" and if its a YT you will most certainly be asked if its for "sale".

I would hope that our tax dollars aren't going to undercover agents trying to buy calicos, but this is California so you never know...

dos ballenas
02-25-2013, 08:48 AM
There are plenty of poachers that target undersize fish, out of season, for the purpose of selling it. :the_finger:

It's sad but true.... and catching these poachers is not easy! :mad:

madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 08:56 AM
It's La jolla...
Try landing with with a WSB or YT on deck durring the high tourist season or a long weekend with sunshine . You will be hit with every question you could possibly imagine and some you couldn't; "where did you get that?" "is that real?" and if its a YT you will most certainly be asked if its for "sale".

I would hope that our tax dollars aren't going to undercover agents trying to buy calicos, but this is California so you never know...

Hoping i do get my first YT soon when i start getting asked stupid questions i start giving stupid answers. I think i will carry a duck call on me and tell them i caught it using this special YT call.

taggermike
02-25-2013, 10:53 AM
Landing with a fish after noon in the summer can be a PITA. I've heard of people getting irate and screaming abuse at yakkers or spearos landing with fish. Mostly I get the usualls that j mo mentioned. I've gotten the "come on over for sushi" comment several time. Mike

madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 11:40 AM
Hah i had some chick like screaming and brought to tears for the bucket of mackerel i had at the Oceanside pier. She was screaming murderer and that she was calling the police and PETA. She was screaming fishing is murder and that the fish have souls and feelings just like we do and she hopes that i rot in Hell for my crimes committed haha. I was like wow someones got a screw loose...

jorluivil
02-25-2013, 11:43 AM
Hah i had some chick like screaming and brought to tears for the bucket of mackerel i had at the Oceanside pier. She was screaming murderer and that she was calling the police and PETA. She was screaming fishing is murder and that the fish have souls and feelings just like we do and she hopes that i rot in Hell for my crimes committed haha. I was like wow someones got a screw loose...

Maybe she was the daughter of the LJ Seal Lady.

You should have gutted a few fish in front of her.

madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 11:45 AM
Maybe she was the daughter of the LJ Seal Lady.

You should have gutted a few fish in front of her.

if i would have had any to gut i most certainly would have...and the LJ seal lady please enlighten me.

Pocoloco
02-25-2013, 11:59 AM
la jolla seal lady is nucking futs

jorluivil
02-25-2013, 12:11 PM
if i would have had any to gut i most certainly would have...and the LJ seal lady please enlighten me.


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madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 12:26 PM
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Old Man in the Sea
02-25-2013, 12:36 PM
WOW #2

jorluivil
02-25-2013, 12:45 PM
I'd hit it:D

madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 12:49 PM
I'd hit it:D
with my truck

MrM
02-25-2013, 01:45 PM
^ hahaha!

ctfphoto
02-25-2013, 01:49 PM
Last week a guy and his wife (I think) asked to buy my fish at the launch site.

Second time this has happened to me.

GregAndrew
02-25-2013, 02:36 PM
A few weeks ago someone asks me "Did you catch that here?" So I calmly replied "No, I brought that for bait (36# YT)". That has got to be the single most asked question that I get there.

wade
02-25-2013, 03:48 PM
Is that a Tuna?????:yt:

StinkyMatt
02-25-2013, 06:45 PM
...." you catch em out there?". Pointing at the ocean.:D

boxturtle
02-25-2013, 06:54 PM
Sounds fishy. Was he in uniform? Did you request a badge number? I have friends who ran into plain clothed "dfg" while out fishing. When asked to produce a badge they stuttered and high tailed it outta there. Suspect it to be nothing more than a bunch of crazies trying to discourage from fishing in "their" ocean.

Next time ask for ID. Posing as an officer is a big no no. Have the phone ready if they refuse to produce.

2x it's actually a Felony

madncrzydm
02-25-2013, 06:57 PM
nope pulled this one through my drain hole in my shower thought it would look good in my goldfish bowl