Raymarine Dragonfly

[PE.rider]

Another toy on my wish list.... Anybody have one? Thoughts?

http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=6855

[jorluivil]

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[Badtaste2k]

Looks Good. My wife would kill me

Dan

[roadx]

looks pretty sweet

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[easyday]

Pricetag on that beast?

[PE.rider]

List Price is 649. Downvision to 600 ft, traditional to 1200 ft. Looks promising...

Definitely ON the List to Buy. Start saving those greenbacks!

[jorluivil]

That's a great price but I'm always a little pessimistic about having the newest technology.

[alanw]

From the manual -

Maximum depth 189 m (600 ft) — Optimum fresh water conditions.
Applies to both Sonar and DownVision.



From ebay listing:

High resolution Down Vision images up to 250 ft.
Conventional sonar performance up to 600 ft.

[danjor]

So I finally picked up a HDS 7 and someone posts something better lol

[FishNinjaY]

List Price is 649. Downvision to 600 ft, traditional to 1200 ft.

what kayak fishing areas are 600-1200 ft, and what are you looking for? :confused:

[danjor]

what kayak fishing areas are 600-1200 ft, and what are you looking for? :confused:

Sounds like someone is planing a suicide kayak swordfish hunt with those depth readings. I'll bring the cinder blocks! :D

[driftwood]

most fish finders put out 500 watts. the dragonfly FF puts out only 8 watts.
This FF is better suited for fresh shallow lakes. Its a weak Fish finder in my opinion. :doh:

[bus kid]

most fish finders put out 500 watts. the dragonfly FF puts out only 8 watts.
This FF is better suited for fresh shallow lakes. Its a weak Fish finder in my opinion. :doh:

I believe your looking at the power comsumption, not the output of the FF. Although the 600 feet is in optimum fresh water conditions.I'd wait a while and see the reviews.

[driftwood]

I believe your looking at the power comsumption, not the output of the FF. Although the 600 feet is in optimum fresh water conditions.I'd wait a while and see the reviews.


Power (Wattage)

The power of a sonar unit is described in Watts. The term "peak to peak" is used to describe the overall output power of the transmitter. When dealing with fishfinders, the higher the wattage, the more efficient and powerful the overall unit will be. Low wattage will ultimately bring you slow readouts, meaning a delayed reaction for a reading of a spot you have already traveled over.

The bare minimum peak-to-peak power would be 800 Watts, although 3000 plus Watts or more is certainly recommended for most anglers. One key point to remember: the shallower the water you fish, the less power you will need. For those that fish deep water (such as the Great Lakes or saltwater) it is best to choose the most powerful unit that your wallet will allow.

[driftwood]

I don't see the peak to peak power watts on any of the spects.
That's why the dragonfly FF is suspect. :confused:

[bus kid]

Power (Wattage)

The power of a sonar unit is described in Watts. The term "peak to peak" is used to describe the overall output power of the transmitter. When dealing with fishfinders, the higher the wattage, the more efficient and powerful the overall unit will be. Low wattage will ultimately bring you slow readouts, meaning a delayed reaction for a reading of a spot you have already traveled over.

The bare minimum peak-to-peak power would be 800 Watts, although 3000 plus Watts or more is certainly recommended for most anglers. One key point to remember: the shallower the water you fish, the less power you will need. For those that fish deep water (such as the Great Lakes or saltwater) it is best to choose the most powerful unit that your wallet will allow.

can you show us where you are getting the output wattage for the unit?

again consumption not output,
from the link above

"Power consumption at full brightness 8 watts"

Raymarine is not listing the output wattage of the FF.

look at the FAQ page.

http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=7625

[bus kid]

I don't see the peak to peak power watts on any of the spects.
That's why the dragonfly FF is suspect. :confused:

agreed, I would wait to see the reviews. :cheers1:

found the spec for the ducer (cpt 60)

http://raymarine.ning.com/forum/topics/dragonfly-fishfinder-freq-power-specifications?page=1&commentId=6492755%3AComment%3A105336&x=1#6492755Comment105336

[driftwood]

I like my fish finders with MORE POWER!!

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[TJones]

I only have 30 days to try out this hds5 before sale is final. I imagine this ducer is mandatory to be in water. And how big is the transducer?

[bus kid]

Go get try it out and let us know!

[alanw]

And how big is the transducer?

It's pretty big, 8" long

[PE.rider]

Go get try it out and let us know!

You bet.

I'm just a simple yak angler, so I don't know much about the technical details too much... (wasn't making a case for or against).

Just knew that this was a new product in the Yak class, and saw that Jim Sammons was using it on his Yak...

http://jacksonkayak.com/blog/2013/07/11/what-is-on-jims-kayak/

Perhaps I should have just asked him :D... or better yet, go down and spend a day fishing with him as a guide to see how the unit functions.

However, I thank ye all for your thoughts :). I'm always willing to listen :bigear: to the advice of others.. which is the point of being a member of a forum right?

Tight lines....

[alanw]

There was a vid posted yesterday for the Jackson Big Rig, it said the new boat is Raymarine Dragonfly ready. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKRh6Vw37k skip to 3:20

[driftwood]

There was a vid posted yesterday for the Jackson Big Rig, it said the new boat is Raymarine Dragonfly ready. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuKRh6Vw37k skip to 3:20

Nice vid! Jackson kayaks is stepping up Love the boat...almost perfect...just missing the mirage drive :D

[JarrodMc]

Jim Sammons uses the Dragonfly and I've seen it used otw. It sure seems like a bitchin FF. If I didn't just buy an Elite5 before this came out I would definitely consider buying it. The down imaging is very clear even around 100+ft. Haven't seen it at its limits.

[PE.rider]

Jim Sammons uses the Dragonfly and I've seen it used otw. It sure seems like a bitchin FF. If I didn't just buy an Elite5 before this came out I would definitely consider buying it. The down imaging is very clear even around 100+ft. Haven't seen it at its limits.


I've decided to purchase one, but want to see if I can get a good deal with some % off coupon to take the sting out of list price. I've owned other nautical equipment from Raymarine, or should I say Raytheon the parent company. They definitely have the depth and width to come up with the better technologies.

Now I just have to figure out which Jackson Kayak has the built-in transducer mount... :).

[driftwood]

I've decided to purchase one, but want to see if I can get a good deal with some % off coupon to take the sting out of list price. I've owned other nautical equipment from Raymarine, or should I say Raytheon the parent company. They definitely have the depth and width to come up with the better technologies.

Now I just have to figure out which Jackson Kayak has the built-in transducer mount... :).


I would seriously wait for the reviews before you make this purchase on this fish finder which will run you about $800 with tax.
New technology comes with many bugs.

[bus kid]

I would seriously wait for the reviews before you make this purchase on this fish finder which will run you about $800 with tax.
New technology comes with many bugs.

X2

[PE.rider]

All points taken gentlemen. Perhaps it's wiser to wait a few months until I upgrade the vessel to another model.

As you all know, we spend so much on our marine addiction/affliction :D.

[alanw]

Anyone know if this transducer will fit in the transducer ready mount area of the newer Malibu X-Factor?

[Siebler]

Best sonar I have ever used. Super impressive. I have had mine for about 6 months now and have used in LJ, Bays, Lakes, etc. Works beautifully.

All new Wildy boats will come ready to fit this as well starting with the Thresher. Simply because everybody on the team, the designer, etc is moving to this unit. It blows away competition in clarity and ease of use.

[Siebler]

Anyone know if this transducer will fit in the transducer ready mount area of the newer Malibu X-Factor?

If you had a Lowrance bracket to modify and stuff you could make it happen but not without modification. Then again the Malibus dont even fit the new HDI stuff from Lowrance, at least not very well. They bolt in but hand WAY low.

[wiredantz]

I like my fish finders with MORE POWER!!

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good one:luxhello:

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

The screen to unit size on the Dragon fly is awesome. I have been using this unit for about a year now and absolutely love it. No issues at all.

[Lipripper92592]

My next FF is going to be the Dragonfly with the 7" screen. Check out the youtube videos, the most impressive that I have seen is when a diver is on a wreck showing video of what is seen on the FF screen. You could follow the 3/4 dive rope all the way to the wreck, pick out individual supports on the bow rail, rope from bow to the ocean floor. It's the technology of this unit, each crystal in ducer fires at a different frequency, the more crystal's, the better clarity (to some degree).
The tarpon and bait schools are super cool, you could make out the shape of a turtle when sea turtles were below, super cool unit.
Now just link it up to Google Glasses.......maybe some day.

[alanw]

If you had a Lowrance bracket to modify and stuff you could make it happen but not without modification. Then again the Malibus dont even fit the new HDI stuff from Lowrance, at least not very well. They bolt in but hand WAY low.

Thanks dude. So it will fit but will hang low.. will it be so low as to hang up on kelp or will it be alright? I'd rather have it mounted near the center of the boat but maybe I should think about mounting it to the rear rudder mount instead.. Seriously thinking of buying one of these units soon if there is a sale somewhere.

[Lipripper92592]

Thanks dude. So it will fit but will hang low.. will it be so low as to hang up on kelp or will it be alright? I'd rather have it mounted near the center of the boat but maybe I should think about mounting it to the rear rudder mount instead.. Seriously thinking of buying one of these units soon if there is a sale somewhere.

Check out the GPS store .com.

Dragonfly 5" is $579 with gold chart
Dragonfly 7" is $769 with gold chart
There are also a few coupons online to reduce it even further.

[momo fish]

Have not heard good things about gps store plus can you get a warrenty? What kind of coupons are out there btw?

Would rather get from west marine due to warrenty but want to consider all options.

[Siebler]

Fyi oex sells and offers the same warranty as west marine.

Alan it will catch kelp id say. Off rudder bracket may be best.

[Lipripper92592]

Have not heard good things about gps store plus can you get a warrenty? What kind of coupons are out there btw?

Would rather get from west marine due to warrenty but want to consider all options.

I've bought quite a few things from them over the years. I bought my HDS5 from them for $439. Haven't had any issues with my units, so can't comment on warranty.
The coupons are code based coupons, like spend $300 get 10% off,. Google, GPS store coupons and try the codes until you find one that works.

No extended warranty at the GPS store:
Does The GPS Store, Inc. offer an extended warranty?

No, The GPS Store, Inc. does not offer any extended warranties on the products we sell. Studies have shown that extended warranties are usually only a good value to the people who are selling them. Here at the GPS Store, Inc., we only sell products by reputable manufacturers who offer sufficient end user warranty's which are included in your purchase price. In fact we have found that once a unit powers up and works the first time, the ongoing failure rate is less than one half of one percent. We always strive to provide the best value for our customers and we simply do not believe in extended warranties on GPS and marine electronics products.

So maybe not the best choice for you.

[alanw]

Check out the GPS store .com.

Dragonfly 5" is $579 with gold chart
Dragonfly 7" is $769 with gold chart
There are also a few coupons online to reduce it even further.

$569 with gold charts as well on ebay, no extended warrantee which I usually don't purchase anyway. It's hard to pay $669 at WM with gpsstore/ebay pricing available. I might wait a little while and see if WM has a sale coming up because I'd rather buy from WM or oex if possible.

Edit: WM has 10% off this weekend which brings it down to around $600 but just found it elsewhere for $537... decisions..