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CKallday71
07-24-2013, 10:33 AM
I'm wondering if the lack of fishing reports lately means that people are just KILLING it, or if it's been really dead?

I haven't been able to get out but I've been reading this and Bloodydecks. A post on La Jolla from BD mentioned that there was 30 Kayaks out in La Jolla yesterday so I was surprised not to see anything on here.

People keeping the info close to their chest maybe?

I'm headed out next Tuesday and Wednesday for SURE!

jorluivil
07-24-2013, 11:20 AM
Welcome to the wonderful world of fishing.

Dannowar
07-24-2013, 11:36 AM
Uhhhhh.... Get out there and find out....

makobob
07-24-2013, 11:52 AM
What are you waiting for? Hook up!!!!

TheBentRod
07-24-2013, 12:10 PM
I think they are biting. See you on the water.

CKallday71
07-24-2013, 12:16 PM
I WANT to get out on the water but unfortunately, I have to work. D'oh! I'll be out next Tuesday.

ctfphoto
07-24-2013, 12:20 PM
I fished La Jolla today, I caught one Calico Bass.

Poxy Boggards
07-24-2013, 12:55 PM
This site used be chocked full of good info, but lately its just seems like FU to everyone except for those in my speed dial, we keep all our secrets to ourselves, and if your lucky we'll post a picture of our catches 3 weeks later.

LAME!

YakHanded
07-24-2013, 01:26 PM
such gnar locals man....

"We grew here, you flew here", people who are God's gift to fishing can't spoil the bite! its not allowed!

beef78
07-24-2013, 02:09 PM
I personnally enjoy the little hints and tips that people post. I know that the info that is shared is something that they have gone out there and earned, so I am not going to be angry at anyone who wishes to keep a spot secret or whatever. I will however, come out and try to make use of a good bite. Especially, because I have very limited fishing time. This year is the first year that I haven't spent at least 8 months out of the year out to sea (not on my kayak). Even so, I tend not to sweat if the reports are not great because in the freshwater lakes back home, some of the biggest fish I have ever seen were caught when the fishing was slow.

Drake
07-24-2013, 02:18 PM
IA post on La Jolla from BD mentioned that there was 30 Kayaks out in La Jolla yesterday so I was surprised not to see anything on here.


I was one of the 30 kayaks. I went home empty handed
Uhhhhh.... Get out there and find out....

Wait, that really works?
T if your lucky we'll post a picture of our catches 3 weeks later.

LAME!

See you in 2 weeks, 6 days 18hours and 31 minutes

Dannowar
07-24-2013, 02:22 PM
I did not catch anything at la jolla today



Happy?

Carp
07-24-2013, 02:22 PM
I was one of the 30 kayaks. I went home empty handed

Ditto

Made bait and got a tan!

beef78
07-24-2013, 02:22 PM
I was at la jolla on sunday and only saw one kayak with a fish in it. It was nice, but only one fish.

Poxy Boggards
07-24-2013, 02:23 PM
I personnally enjoy the little hints and tips that people post. I know that the info that is shared is something that they have gone out there and earned, so I am not going to be angry at anyone who wishes to keep a spot secret or whatever. I will however, come out and try to make use of a good bite. Especially, because I have very limited fishing time. This year is the first year that I haven't spent at least 8 months out of the year out to sea (not on my kayak). Even so, I tend not to sweat if the reports are not great because in the freshwater lakes back home, some of the biggest fish I have ever seen were caught when the fishing was slow.


I get where you are coming from, but to me it's the general attitude that I have been noticing on here lately that has me somewhat turned off. I understand first hand how an internet posting can make conditions less desirable for a local or crowd out a bite, but the cryptic pics only posts, not even giving any details are just brag posts, not intended to help anyone.

Poxy Boggards
07-24-2013, 02:25 PM
I was one of the 30 kayaks. I went home empty handed


Wait, that really works?


See you in 2 weeks, 6 days 18hours and 31 minutes


LOL, I can't wait!:D

beef78
07-24-2013, 03:10 PM
I get where you are coming from, but to me it's the general attitude that I have been noticing on here lately that has me somewhat turned off. I understand first hand how an internet posting can make conditions less desirable for a local or crowd out a bite, but the cryptic pics only posts, not even giving any details are just brag posts, not intended to help anyone.


I understand. It is definately frustrating when you see the posts a couple weeks later or whatever. I just enjoy fishing and try not to get caught up in it too much. If someone wants to brag about their fish, whatev. If some one wants to help out a newb, awesome. I have learned a lot fishing with guys that have been doing it a while, or just watching the guys that are out there and look like they know what they are doing.

TJones
07-24-2013, 03:21 PM
the same thing . since the fishing has been excellent closer to home , i have not been down south in about 2 months . i think i have seen a couple posts at best . personally i have had the my best season yet . i caught 4 seabass . a thirty , 2 forty's and a fifty . the crazy thing is the fish were all caught within thirty minutes of fishing on the given day . and i did not spend a fortune in fuel trying to find them . my posts were more about bragging , like you mentioned . :cheers1: . i did not want all my secrets getting out , so i did not get into the details very much . well we will just have to wait and see what the rest of the season has to offer .

driftwood
07-24-2013, 03:47 PM
I caught a sand dab Monday and tue a lizard fish. I ate the sand dab and thru the lizard fish back.

dos ballenas
07-24-2013, 04:26 PM
I get where you are coming from, but to me it's the general attitude that I have been noticing on here lately that has me somewhat turned off. I understand first hand how an internet posting can make conditions less desirable for a local or crowd out a bite, but the cryptic pics only posts, not even giving any details are just brag posts, not intended to help anyone.

Pictures are worth a thousand words

Personally I like seeing the pictures more

Fishing is fishing

If you wait for the report you are often too LATE

:cheers1:

ful-rac
07-24-2013, 05:38 PM
I did not catch anything at la jolla today



Happy?


Im not happy...!

Well what time did you catch nothing and what depth did you catch nothing...!?

silentsmell
07-24-2013, 05:53 PM
I don't need the report, just give me the pictures. Fish porn makes my job better.

CKallday71
07-24-2013, 05:56 PM
I don't need the report, just give me the pictures. Fish porn makes my job better.

Awesome quote of the day.

beef78
07-24-2013, 06:13 PM
I don't need the report, just give me the pictures. Fish porn makes my job better.

YES!! Seeing the pics of everyone's fish definately motivates me to get out there and get my own. Especially when I am stuck at work with nothing to do and I get to browse all these nice photos.

El Vato
07-24-2013, 07:17 PM
I'm wondering if the lack of fishing reports lately means that people are just KILLING it, or if it's been really dead?

I haven't been able to get out but I've been reading this and Bloodydecks. A post on La Jolla from BD mentioned that there was 30 Kayaks out in La Jolla yesterday so I was surprised not to see anything on here.

People keeping the info close to their chest maybe?

I'm headed out next Tuesday and Wednesday for SURE!

2005-present wants their thread back. :ack2:

Drake
07-24-2013, 08:03 PM
I wish I could explain to you how much more amplified the stoke is when you go out and find your own fish rather than just hearing "Hey, the fish are biting" and you luck into one.

It took a year to get my first one, but I got it on a bite that was going strong for almost a month. It felt awesome, but it didn't feel "earned." Six months later we had fished for 2 weeks straight skunking out, no other kayaks in sight. We worked the grid, did our homework and ended up catching some nice big YT. Those fish felt so much more deserved because of the work we put into it. Those fish and that report never saw the internet.

Lately, the constant demand for fishing reports feels like we are all doing the same group school project but only some of the people are putting in the time to complete the assignment; while others are just expecting to get a good grade as the expense of others hard work.

StinkyMatt
07-24-2013, 08:25 PM
What is LJ?


Why is there sand in my shorts after every beach landing?

bus kid
07-24-2013, 08:41 PM
wfo on everything at cat this weekend.

dorado50
07-25-2013, 12:52 AM
For any "new guy" wanting a tip on inshore fishing? Find the "bait" and you will find the fish. Any fish one catches weather it be during a "bite" or not translates into experience. Obviously the more fish you catch the better fisherman you become, as each fish caught is a whole new learning experience. To me the "hunt" is also much more gratifying.....

kobra
07-25-2013, 03:00 AM
For any "new guy" wanting a tip on inshore fishing? Find the "bait" and you will find the fish. Any fish one catches weather it be during a "bite" or not translates into experience. Obviously the more fish you catch the better fisherman you become, as each fish caught is a whole new learning experience. To me the "hunt" is also much more gratifying.....


Well said!

Deamon
07-25-2013, 05:06 AM
I met this older guy yesterday at the launch in the dark. He had a stern look on his face all morning. He brought he son with him to go "fishing". Pretty much begged me for bait as he passed me the first time. This old guy proceeded to cut through a bunch of our lines a couple of times (without regard!). Needless to say, I saw him leave very early. I did not see any fish on his yak. I wonder if his boy had any fun...one man's perception of the morning. Jim

jorluivil
07-25-2013, 05:57 AM
Since I haven't caught anything I haven't posted anything but rest assured that as soon as I do I will not be posting it:D

Raskal311
07-25-2013, 05:57 AM
NP was SLOOOOOOOW yesturday...

Old Man in the Sea
07-25-2013, 07:38 AM
As of now 1053 people have read this post and it has been copied over to Bloody decks if any fish pics and a few other websites...it is a bummer,,, but that is technology...Neil - I would love to help you work on your class project anytime...PM me....:sifone:

StinkyMatt
07-25-2013, 07:58 AM
Hey Jim, I saw that grumpy old bastard at the launch too. That guy does not belong on the water, he can't even swim!


I bet it will take him years to catch a real fish.


:D

ful-rac
07-25-2013, 08:09 AM
I think I know that guy....that guy's a GOOGIN!

jorluivil
07-25-2013, 08:31 AM
I think I know that guy....that guy's a GOOGIN!


Isn't he a Captain...........................or was it a Skipper:rolleyes:?

taggermike
07-25-2013, 10:09 AM
Definitely folks are keeping things quiet. That's ok. Drake's reference to a school group project that every one wants to get an A on with only a few doing the research. Great analogy. I fish when I can, not when the reports tell me too. Who doesn't wish they could go more often? I caught my first kayak YT on a cold windy drizzly day using a big smelt for bait. Just go.

I gotta say that the squid all along the coast has added a new dimension to our bites. Nothing seams to bring out the territorial asshole in anglers like a squid bite. If the YT were spread out along the kelp line and off the NW corner and parking lot eating macks and surface irons like they usually are in July I'm sure reports might be different. Mike

kareem korn
07-25-2013, 10:45 AM
The funny thing is some that are the most anti report I've watched them from the start. Catch a couple photo worthy fish and things change.

That being said. I don't mind a "brag report" rather than a "fish report". The one's that have lived their lives on the ocean can read the signs.

makobob
07-25-2013, 02:14 PM
Ya pays your nickel, and ya takes your chance, no pain no gain, just do it!!

twinfin
07-25-2013, 02:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv-Qn1M58I

Poxy Boggards
07-25-2013, 02:27 PM
I don't get as much time on the water as I would like. I wish I had days upon end, money for fuel, and time away from work to go find my own rewarding YT or WSB.

I live over 100 miles from La Jolla, and that means just getting down to the launch in my truck is going to cost me a good chunk of change. A few years ago, that would be no problem but mine as well as many others belts have had to be tightened out of necessity.

What that means for me, is no trips exploring and looking for a bite. If I am going to head down there, I want to know that the fish are chewing and that if I do things right I have a good chance at doing battle with one of my target species.

I envy those of you who are close to a productive launch, and have the time to go out and find the fish. Unfortunately I just don't have that luxury.:svengo:

I would love to go hit one of the productive areas closer to me, but finding anyone to even throw you a bone and point you in the right direction of a good launch seems nearly impossible with the current lips wide shut attitude of the board these days.

bigbarrels
07-25-2013, 03:02 PM
I think saw the same old guy on the beach and he needed a vessel assist in a race with the rising tide

Hobie-Pedaller
07-25-2013, 03:49 PM
earlier this month, i just passed my 10 yr anniversary, of kayak fishing.

in the early & mid 2000's when the numerous kayak fishing msg boards started appearing and growing, the main theme of those board's various thread "topics" & "fish reports", ALMOST ALWAYS seemed to be for the exchange of knowledge & info to help others learn how to be more successful in this sport.

i have learned ENORMOUS amounts from these 'yak fish websites over past decade. and ALSO have given MUCH input myself, trying to help others in return.

unfortunately, many of those prior msg boards have now gone to the internet graveyard. and SADLY, for the few that are still online, the attitude of sharing info and/or helping other fishermen is mostly gone these days. :mad:
.

CKallday71
07-25-2013, 03:58 PM
I've found in general that most of the people on this board are exceptionally friendly, personable and helpful. And I understand that keeping some info close to the chest on a hot bite is a good idea to keep the area from being bombarded with every swinging D!(# and a kayak/boat from picking the area clean like a squid netter.

As for me, I'll get my tuchas out on the water on Tuesday and see what I can scrape up.

Raskal311
07-25-2013, 04:03 PM
earlier this month, i just passed my 10 yr anniversary, of kayak fishing.

in the early & mid 2000's when the numerous kayak fishing msg boards started appearing and growing, the main theme of those board's various thread "topics" & "fish reports", ALMOST ALWAYS seemed to be for the exchange of knowledge & info to help others learn how to be more successful in this sport.

i have learned ENORMOUS amounts from these 'yak fish websites over past decade. and ALSO have given MUCH input myself, trying to help others in return.

unfortunately, many of those prior msg boards have now gone to the internet graveyard. and SADLY, for the few that are still online, the attitude of sharing info and/or helping other fishermen is mostly gone these days. :mad:
.

I used to be heavy in to aquarium/reefing and that community has changed too. It used to be a close nit community where people share what they had extra and involved their family. Some of my closest friends today were people I met during those days. There are still a lot of good people but the hobby as a whole isn't what it used to be. When people meet now its all about $$$

lowprofile
07-25-2013, 04:11 PM
i think people are too busy loading up on shovelnose guitarfish to post

btw, the spread of info ceased due to boaters lurking on these forums. its sad for both. sad that we can't share info with fellow yakers on public forums and sad that the boat guys have to learn from the kayak gurus.

also, several of the best seasoned kayak fishermen are either guides or have gone commercial and don't want to take away from their profits.

Hobie-Pedaller
07-25-2013, 04:15 PM
I've found in general that most of the people on this board are exceptionally friendly, personable and helpful....



friendly & personable.... most still are.

helpful.... that's where things have seemed to have changed A LOT to me over past decade.




......And I understand that keeping some info close to the chest on a hot bite is a good idea to keep the area from being bombarded with every swinging D!(# and a kayak/boat from picking the area clean like a squid netter.



i understand people not wanting to give "locations". that has occurred since the beginning of time for ANY "fishing spots".

but giving basic info about gear, techniques, rigs, baits, etc is where things have seemed to really dry up in recent years. SOME certainly still do share. but MANY seem like they are just determined to keep all their knowledge on these matters to themselves these days.
.

skiffman
07-25-2013, 06:52 PM
i think people are too busy loading up on shovelnose guitarfish to post

btw, the spread of info ceased due to boaters lurking on these forums. its sad for both. sad that we can't share info with fellow yakers on public forums and sad that the boat guys have to learn from the kayak gurus.

also, several of the best seasoned kayak fishermen are either guides or have gone commercial and don't want to take away from their profits.

That's it, skiff guys never caught shit before kayaks hit the scene. What came first, the chicken or the egg. Who learned from who?

makobob
07-25-2013, 07:02 PM
That's it, skiff guys never caught shit before kayaks hit the scene. What came first, the chicken or the egg. Who learned from who?

1st fishing trip was to La Jolla in my grandpa's row boat in 1955. We all started out fishing these or other waters. Let's just thank the good Lord there are still quality fish to catch. Tight lines.

Deamon
07-25-2013, 07:12 PM
That's it, skiff guys never caught shit before kayaks hit the scene. What came first, the chicken or the egg. Who learned from who?

And the lurker just couldn't lie low and just...LURK...it is what it is. Build a network or go at it blind, just fish. Jim

lowprofile
07-25-2013, 07:45 PM
point proven. :D

if several YT were reported this week he and his buddies would be out in the skiffs at LJ. if not only he or one of his buddies would be out and the rest would be fishing SD bay, PL and other places.

this is a tight network and once you get to know a few people you'll get into a loop or two and be invited to fish and be subject to texts at 2am of 60lb white seabass and get off work to another 5 of triple yellowtail. until then i can only advise to hit the water as much as possible, talk to the yak guys around you and pay attention to the details in reports and pics.

skiffman
07-25-2013, 09:04 PM
point proven. :D

if several YT were reported this week he and his buddies would be out in the skiffs at LJ. if not only he or one of his buddies would be out and the rest would be fishing SD bay, PL and other places.

this is a tight network and once you get to know a few people you'll get into a loop or two and be invited to fish and be subject to texts at 2am of 60lb white seabass and get off work to another 5 of triple yellowtail. until then i can only advise to hit the water as much as possible, talk to the yak guys around you and pay attention to the details in reports and pics.

What point would that be? I was fishing S.D. bay with a client who wanted to catch Spotted Bay Bass today. We caught a lot and had a blast. Life and fishing does not revolve around catching WSB or Yellowtail. It's like Lemmings going off a cliff when the squid bite is on and the masses descend on the spot like vultures on a fresh carcass. Do what you like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeaS4SIAHL0&feature=player_detailpage

Drake
07-25-2013, 10:31 PM
What point would that be? I was fishing S.D. bay with a client who wanted to catch Spotted Bay Bass today. We caught a lot and had a blast. Life and fishing does not revolve around catching WSB or Yellowtail. It's like Lemmings going off a cliff when the squid bite is on and the masses descend on the spot like vultures on a fresh carcass. Do what you like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeaS4SIAHL0&feature=player_detailpage

Nailed it right on the head.

BrokeLoser
07-26-2013, 09:03 AM
Oh no!
Here we go again...haha...use caution on how you decide to 'steer' this discussion if you care to keep it alive and productive.
Remember, your first amendment right does not apply!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=18533

Drake
07-26-2013, 09:16 AM
Oh no!
Here we go again...haha...use caution on how you decide to 'steer' this discussion if you care to keep it alive and productive.
Remember, your first amendment right does not apply!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=18533
Didn't you learn your lesson?
:confused:

BrokeLoser
07-26-2013, 09:21 AM
Didn't you learn your lesson?
:confused:

Lesson?
What are you teaching?

chefchatten
07-26-2013, 09:26 AM
Squid Bite is going off!

Drake
07-26-2013, 09:49 AM
Squid Bite is going off!
Wait really? :confused:

dorado50
07-26-2013, 12:46 PM
Once I get back from vacation I'm going to kayak fish LJ everyday and hopefully post a few same day bite reports.:D Full of facts and figures. There will be no secret bite if I'm around! Watch LJ I'm coming back.....:eek:

bus kid
07-26-2013, 01:17 PM
9814

chris138
07-26-2013, 01:52 PM
Dual site, cross-referenced, peer-reviewed lurking!:D

Here's some advice guys: it's JULY, get down here and go fish with the fleet!!!:cheers1::boxing_smiley:

Cattledog
07-27-2013, 09:50 PM
I think we would see a lot more fishing reports from everyone if more people posted a report whether it was "impressive" or not; even for those trips where the skunk wins.

Reports that try to describe what went wrong with a trip as much as what went right are the most interesting to me - so much to learn...

Chris