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jorluivil
08-07-2013, 04:44 PM
If you learned one lesson from this video what would it be?
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kobra
08-07-2013, 04:54 PM
Make sure the go pro is on? :D
TJones
08-07-2013, 05:03 PM
video says it is private . is it just my system ?
bosshoss
08-07-2013, 05:29 PM
video says it is private . is it just my system ?
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ful-rac
08-07-2013, 05:39 PM
Well...i learned that when you post up a youtube video, to make it so everybody can see it...!:the_finger:
jorluivil
08-07-2013, 05:52 PM
Up and running now
Up and running now
Not for me. Tease!
GregAndrew
08-07-2013, 06:03 PM
A lot of stuff there, but the top 2 I can think of are: 1) An Outback, along with any other high railed kayak, can be very difficult to remount and should be practiced on. 2) Swimming back to your yak should not be done freestyle or doggy style fully clothed. Keeping your head, and lifting your arms out of the water wastes too much energy. Lay back and do the back paddle you probably learned as a kid (arms out to the sides and push back).
Cadillyak
08-07-2013, 06:31 PM
Dress to swim!
HELLSTER INC.
08-07-2013, 06:50 PM
Make sure the go pro is on? :D..
kiyo21
08-07-2013, 07:32 PM
:notworthy:
DanaPT
08-07-2013, 08:02 PM
no macarena on an outback.
dorado50
08-07-2013, 08:45 PM
to always keep your rod tip pointed at the fish?
echo1er
08-07-2013, 08:52 PM
Poop is not to chum water
StinkyMatt
08-07-2013, 09:02 PM
Don't ever, ever listen to your dumbass friends when they double dog dare you to do dumb stuff.
....and than they laugh at you for ten minutes straight.:D
Swim faster George and keep your pants on.
ful-rac
08-07-2013, 09:14 PM
If jorge lost his pants im sure greg would have found them a week later....:eek:
kobra
08-07-2013, 11:25 PM
Old guys might rule but they aren't very nimble. :D What the hell made you listen to Matt? :confused: Well anyways :you_rock:
FishNinjaY
08-08-2013, 02:44 AM
Keep training.. Daniel-san!
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Chuck D
08-08-2013, 05:26 AM
Sight Fishing on the Outback is not in my near future. Nice one Jorge:luxhello:
makobob
08-08-2013, 08:17 AM
La Jolla is a great place for a quick dip. No paddle harness? Old guys know better.
Hobie-Pedaller
08-08-2013, 08:34 AM
....No paddle harness? ....
ANOTHER advantage of mirage drive kayaks. :D
NO harness necessary. whenever paddle is dropped in water & floats away from yak, u just pedal after it & pick it up.
i've never used a paddle harness, and never lost a paddle in 10 yrs of yakking.
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makobob
08-08-2013, 08:40 AM
Ok, I stand corrected, but you would not have had to swim back to boat if you had leash.
Deamon
08-08-2013, 08:47 AM
I found out that when I merely watch someone else fall off a kayak...even on YouTube...I get a cold sweat and have flashbacks at night on my past failures...Not cool. I didn't sleep well. I'll try to avoid these types of videos in the future. Jim
Baja_Traveler
08-08-2013, 11:45 AM
I learned that I need to get my A$$ to LJ - because that blue water looked AWESOME!!
Salty Dog
08-08-2013, 01:48 PM
1. To turn down volume before hitting play button
2. Your rudder was not deployed
3. You are training for the US Gymnastics Team
4. I will start thinking about rigging up a kayak leash. A lot of good a Mirage Drive will do me if it drifts away
taggermike
08-08-2013, 02:00 PM
That's a funny vid but a few things are clear.
Don't stand up in a kayak.
If you come out of your boat grab it asap. Even in those nice conditions the kayak was getting a way from the guy in the water.
Practice re-entry before you have to do one.
Having a buddy handy is nice. Seriously. Mike
tomahawk
08-08-2013, 04:41 PM
1. Don't stand
2. Have someone close by
3. Old guys rule but aren't necessarily coordinated
4. Keep the GoPro charged
Old Man in the Sea
08-08-2013, 09:44 PM
#1 Rule do not fish without a buddy. :kayak-surfer:
#2 Make sure I always wear my PFD with my floating Acr ResQlink 2880 PLB in the left pocket.:iagree:
#3 If you are alone in the water in waders without a PLB you will be very lucky if you are found alive - especially at night. :ack2:
#4 Standing up holding your fish for a picture in a kayak is ALMOST as dangerous as stand up paddling in a kayak. :eek:
driftwood
08-09-2013, 06:01 AM
Yup, old men rule!!!
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Dirty Curti
08-09-2013, 09:49 AM
Never stand up in a kayak when your buddy has the GoPro focused on you and laughing.
Thanks for sharing:luxhello:
GregAndrew
08-09-2013, 10:40 AM
I prefer to do my standing on the beach.http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu228/GregAndrew/image_zpsb3e578dd.jpg
Deamon
08-09-2013, 12:15 PM
I put your photo into an experimental google earth map app and it triangulated your exact location, thanks! See you there in the morning, I'll be there early. Jim
I prefer to do my standing on the beach.http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu228/GregAndrew/image_zpsb3e578dd.jpg
makobob
08-10-2013, 10:48 AM
Jim that's the hard way. Put a tracker on both your rides yesterday.
StinkyMatt
08-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Greg, there is a dead sardine stuck to the side of your waders.
Otherwise a very pretty picture.
:D
lowprofile
08-10-2013, 03:51 PM
ANOTHER advantage of mirage drive kayaks. :D
NO harness necessary. whenever paddle is dropped in water & floats away from yak, u just pedal after it & pick it up.
i've never used a paddle harness, and never lost a paddle in 10 yrs of yakking.
.
unless your using it because your mirage drive broke...:rolleyes:
Irishman
08-10-2013, 07:00 PM
Leash.....
End of story without one. Not been kayaking for long but can tell this much that the paddle should be firmly attached to the kayak....here's my very simple reasoning why....
Surfed my share of big waves with and without a leash, gook cord call it what you will....learnt one very invaluable lesson.....there is no such thing as an atheist when you are in the ocean with big water. It has a way of humbling you very quickly. If you have ever been in a life threating situation in the ocean you will know what I mean.
It's a funny video to watch....but what if the wind was up, paddling solo and the drive broke??? Sorry to be overly paranoid...just be prepared.
With that said it was funny!!!
StinkyMatt
08-10-2013, 07:56 PM
Most kayak schools or instructors will tell you to never have a paddle leash when launching or Landing. Safety thing.
Out in the open water I guess it could make sense.
Hobie-Pedaller
08-11-2013, 01:25 PM
unless your using it because your mirage drive broke...:rolleyes:
well, i suspect the odds of THAT COMBINATION happening, are somewhere along the lines of getting struck by lightning, or similar extremely unlikely occurrences. ;)
in 10 yrs of yakking, and knowing there are thousands of mirage drives in use, and following every yak fishing website in existence over that 10 yrs.... i've have heard of a grand total of ONE mirage drive breaking. (posted just in past few months on this website.)
so i don't think that is really much of a significant concern.
AND IF A MIRAGE DRIVE DOES BREAK, THEN ANY PRUDENT YAKKER COULD THEN EASILY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE TO HOLD ON TO PADDLE SECURELY, AND NOT DOING ANYTHING RISKY, SUCH AS MANY OF THE THINGS POSTED EARLIER IN THIS THREAD, TO RISK GOING OVERBOARD, OR LOSING PADDLE, ETC.
i would worry more about being struck by lightning, or getting eaten by a shark, than worry about the odds of having BOTH my mirage drive break, AND then ALSO subsequently losing my paddle after that, when knowing i did not have a working mirage drive available.
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jorluivil
08-11-2013, 01:49 PM
Although this all started as a joke it became a eye opener the second that I was unable to swim faster than the kayak was drifting.
Do I drop the paddle?
should I take off my PFD so that I can swim faster?
Should I hail the USCG(I'm not sure how many of you noticed but my VHF was clipped to my PFD)?
should I strip the layers of clothing that are weighing me down?
I can't imagine what the end result could have been if I was alone. Fortunately, this all ended well but it was only because Matt was near me and rest assured I would have never tried this if I was alone in open water.
Old Man in the Sea
08-11-2013, 02:09 PM
) yes forget the paddle - IMMEDIATELY use your arms in a fast crawl stroke back to the kayak - you waited too long.
2) no never/ever take off your pfd it will keep you floating and it has the vhf.
3) yes if you don't catch your kayak
4) in your clothing case yes if #1 fails immediately - kick off those shoes - arch to heel and push - then grab your butt and pull those pants past your knees and kick them off - swim back with full power using arms and kicking...
5) You must use a long teather tied around your waist and the other end to Tony's swim step if you want to try it alone...:eek:
lowprofile
08-11-2013, 08:37 PM
well, i suspect the odds of THAT COMBINATION happening, are somewhere along the lines of getting struck by lightning, or similar extremely unlikely occurrences. ;)
in 10 yrs of yakking, and knowing there are thousands of mirage drives in use, and following every yak fishing website in existence over that 10 yrs.... i've have heard of a grand total of ONE mirage drive breaking. (posted just in past few months on this website.)
so i don't think that is really much of a significant concern.
AND IF A MIRAGE DRIVE DOES BREAK, THEN ANY PRUDENT YAKKER COULD THEN EASILY FOCUS ON MAKING SURE TO HOLD ON TO PADDLE SECURELY, AND NOT DOING ANYTHING RISKY, SUCH AS MANY OF THE THINGS POSTED EARLIER IN THIS THREAD, TO RISK GOING OVERBOARD, OR LOSING PADDLE, ETC.
i would worry more about being struck by lightning, or getting eaten by a shark, than worry about the odds of having BOTH my mirage drive break, AND then ALSO subsequently losing my paddle after that, when knowing i did not have a working mirage drive available.
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well i'm glad that you follow EVERY kayak board because i know of 3 that broke just this year, and one that broke twice here in florida. shit mine broke and i had to paddle in. they aren't all reported but the three i mention were.
Zac, Zfish, lost his drive then the damn hobie paddle BROKE!
I've spear fished in shark infested waters with hammers and bulls in sight, waded in chest deep water at night with bulls around, fished through a dozen or more lightning storms this year and the only unfortunate thing to happen was the mirage drive broke.
FishNinjaY
08-12-2013, 04:30 AM
well i'm glad that you follow EVERY kayak board because i know of 3 that broke just this year, and one that broke twice here in florida. shit mine broke and i had to paddle in. they aren't all reported but the three i mention were.
Zac, Zfish, lost his drive then the damn hobie paddle BROKE!
I've spear fished in shark infested waters with hammers and bulls in sight, waded in chest deep water at night with bulls around, fished through a dozen or more lightning storms this year and the only unfortunate thing to happen was the mirage drive broke.
I'm pretty new to this game, but I've seen stuff happen already. On the recent Islander trip, at least 1 Mirage drive I know of broke. Another person I know, recently broke the rudder pin on his outback. The Hobie's are great, but not indestructible. With the miles and abuse people put on these kayaks, I'm surprised we don't hear about more of these breakdowns. I have the big Oasis tandem, and I usually only bring 1 paddle.. but if (when) something like this busts, I'm sure I'll be cussing a lot on my way back in.:paddleersmilie:
wiredantz
08-12-2013, 06:56 AM
Somethings i observed,
you don't have upper body strength, you drink to much beer, and never every listen to a polish double dog dare. :D
Old Man in the Sea
08-12-2013, 08:07 AM
the old polish double-dog dare again???
nice to know...
get a bag with mirage drive parts and repair tools... they do need fixing....
TJones
08-12-2013, 08:10 AM
(1) never ever remove you'r vest while wearing waders ( unless urinating ) . (2) always wear a belt . if you had been wearing a belt the likely hood of the waders slipping down and reducing you'r leg movement would be reduced , let alone reducing the water intake . and if you were wearing the pfd and the waders filled up , becoming submerged is unlikely . also doing a recovery on open water alone is something that should be practiced . more than likely this is a recent video and the outcome could have been different if alone in winter conditions , in rough water and body temperature dropping rapidly . i love you jorge . nice work on the camera .
TJones
08-12-2013, 08:16 AM
but like mentioned above . swim on you'r back .
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