Catalina Crossing -SUMMER 2014

[cabojohn]

Cancelled due to injury /slow recovery
Will try again 2015~



* Makobob & friends may still be doing the paddle?
Catalina Crossing II

[easyday]

Yes im in been talking about this for a while

[makobob]

Depending on date. June is out for me. I'll be in San Quintin, Baja.

[PapaDave]

Are Mirage drives allowed? :)

[Fishwhisperer619]

Way down!

[makobob]

Are Mirage drives allowed? :)

What ever floats your boat. I will use mine.

[jorluivil]

I'm not joining but I'm curious....................are you guys going to have a support boat?

[Dave k]

Is the plan to carry camping gear on the yaks or is that being shipped or hauled by a support boat (assuming there is one).

[OEX Sunset Beach]

This was on my list of things to do this year that never got marked off my list. I like September though.

This crossing is done by more people than you think. Best spot is Cabrillo. I have rented kayaks several times for people as support boats to people SWIMMING the 22 mile crossing. I like John's disclaimer.

*we reserve the right to refuse anyone who is not 100% ready.

[OEX Sunset Beach]

Now if you are a really hardcore paddler


http://www.expeditionkayak.com/completed-expeditions/channel-islands-of-california/

[easyday]

I think im going to need something different than my x factor im liking the soind of a tarpon 160

[bus kid]

I'm not joining but I'm curious....................are you guys going to have a support boat?

Is the plan to carry camping gear on the yaks or is that being shipped or hauled by a support boat (assuming there is one).

Im sure there are a few of us who also own boats that will be willing to support.

[Mongo Johnson]

Put me on the list to pedal my Revo or just crew a support boat. I'm an old news photog' so put me down to snag a few pix and video too. Might be able to get my wife to help too.

[food4less562]

I would be interested, sounds like nice challenge.

one way trip
distance x pace = est. time
22 miles x 4mph = about 5hrs 30mins

[Drake]

Count me in.

[Smthtnnr]

I might be in. What's the plan fishing wise? You aren't gonna try and troll on the way there are you?

[Poopsicle]

I'm in.

[rossman]

I'm out. If I don't get a nap after 9 miles of paddling I get cranky. Man's got to know his limitations.

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[StinkyMatt]

I would be interested, sounds like nice challenge.

one way trip
distance x pace = est. time
22 miles x 4mph = about 5hrs 30mins




VERY slim chance that this type of a pace will be maintained by you for close to 6 hours.



Good luck guys.


Take lots of photos and be safe.

[jorluivil]

I would be interested, sounds like nice challenge.

one way trip
distance x pace = est. time
22 miles x 4mph = about 5hrs 30mins

a more realistic pace would probably be 2-3 mph. I don't think any one of us could hold a 4mph pace for 5+ hrs. You guys should take a few practice runs; pedal/paddle from Redondo to Santa Monica or something similar, at a minimum this will give you a good idea of what to expect.

[ful-rac]

Its gonna be brutal but rewarding!

You guys make it...you should get some sort of trophy for your signature line...!:D

[ericko]

Sewer crew is a bunch of pwimpy good luck tho .... If I went I would just slow you all down!!!!

[Fishwhisperer619]

I really hope this is still something you guys wanna do. Just got me a PA 14 and I'm ready to go on an adventure!

[Big T]

I am not in shape for something like this, but I might have a boat available for support. Might.

[dorado50]

Plenty of time to get in shape!. Five-six more months until this adventure, what are you waiting for? No excuses...........:kayak-surfer:

[Squid Vicious]

...theres no way I could do it :kayak-surfer: ...I'll take the skippy over ;)

[Mahigeer]

Maybe with one of these!!<O:p</O:p
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[walrus]

You might consider a couple of Mission Bay to SD Bay paddles for a warm up this spring. Find out what pace you can maintain over a long distance in open waters.

Sounds like a great Adventure, good luck.

[Fishwhisperer619]

Yea I'm sure everyone that wants to go has their own route of practice. For me I have otay lake in my backyard so I just paddle around the lake for a few hours. Plus when I'm with a group, I won't be the one slowing the pace down so I'm in the clear haha

[johnnyblaze2009]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/sazusuny.jpg
This is how I would go... I'm sure this is the outfit I'd wear too, chicks dig outfits like this...


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[Fishwhisperer619]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/sazusuny.jpg
This is how I would go... I'm sure this is the outfit I'd wear too, chicks dig outfits like this...


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Hope you have a pfd and a vhf haha

[johnnyblaze2009]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/03/u2yhepa2.jpg
Just came up on this prototype kayak- it's one of 2 as the other one will be on display at the Fred Hall Show. I'm sure this can make the trek to Catalina, hell I probably won't even get wet.


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[Big T]

Plenty of time to get in shape!. Five-six more months until this adventure, what are you waiting for? No excuses...........:kayak-surfer:

Werd. I used to ride the Yamaha VFR from Dana to Avalon when nobody said I could... I guess this is just a little slower... and shorter... and less motorized! LOL

[87yota4runner]

Man i want to get prepped for this. The idea of camping/fishing Catalina is what made me want a kayak. I need ti get some serious hours in. Also, would we be fishing from long beach to two harbors or would that make the paddle take too long?


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[Fishwhisperer619]

Man i want to get prepped for this. The idea of camping/fishing Catalina is what made me want a kayak. I need ti get some serious hours in. Also, would we be fishing from long beach to two harbors or would that make the paddle take too long?


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I doubt we will fish along the way, but if you wanna troll and hook up ill stay back with you. I have a mirage drive so the extra time and distancd makes no difference to me really

[87yota4runner]

Thats awesome man! Any rough estimates on how long it takes to just straight paddle there on an average trip with a group? And how much longer would it take to troll some different gear for the better part of the trip? I know you can try to average a speed for the distance but that never really equates to what it really takes to do anything real. Hopefully theres someone on here who has done the trip a couple times.


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[Fishwhisperer619]

Thats awesome man! Any rough estimates on how long it takes to just straight paddle there on an average trip with a group? And how much longer would it take to troll some different gear for the better part of the trip? I know you can try to average a speed for the distance but that never really equates to what it really takes to do anything real. Hopefully theres someone on here who has done the trip a couple times.


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I've never made the voyage before but off the top of my head I can think of many variables that will determine the length of the trip and I'm sure I'm still missing some:
Wind
Current
Speed
Stops
Trolling
Duration of potential fight
Distance drifted off course from potential fight
Weight of loadout on kayak
Etc.
Hopefully we can get a boat to accompany us out there to take some of the load off kayaks. I would personally troll a big kroc spoon or a waxwing

[87yota4runner]

I really need to get some salt/trolling gear. I only have my freshwater spin-casters, a cheapo walmart ocean spin-caster, and a really old sportfisher ocean side 5'1 medium with a penn 350 levelwind. I just pulled the levelwind apart and cleaned it up(and lost and replaced the springs for the reverse lock and levelwind clicker) but once i started spooling it up i realized that the drag washers are shot(or so i think), if enough tension is put on the line, the drag loosens up enough to basically let the line free spool, doubt it could even bring in a crappie:


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[lowprofile]

I did a 17 mile group trip from Pensacola pier to Navarre pier while in Florida. We had 8 yaks and went out about 2.5 miles at the most which added a little more distance to the 17mile straight line course. We traveled at a constant 2.5 nauts and with the wind and swell to our backs were able to get up to 6nmph for about half an hour. The faster trolling speed really set off the bite. Anyways, we launched at 6 am, had to make rudder repairs to one yak mid trip, which cost us an hour, and landed at our destination after 5pm. It should have only took Us 7 hours, but between landing fish and keeping the group together and operational, it took almost 12hours.

Just something to consider.

[87yota4runner]

Oh wow the whole ridder thing didnt cross my mind, is that kinda needed to make the crossing? Also my explorer is only 11'3", does that pose a problem? If theres anyone out there who does the crossing in something smaller like a minix or play please let me know so i can feel a little more comfortable haha
And it sounds like its at least a 12 hour trip? So do you leave ant like 5-6 in the morning or is there certain times that you can let the current and wind help push you along?


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[Fishwhisperer619]

No not really. It does help but as long as the people leading the way keep a steady course all you have to do is follow. You're pretty much dependent on the line they make

[cabojohn]

This paddle is ONLY for those who have experience and the right tools for the job!!
You must be in top physical condition to even consider this type of paddle.

**WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ANYONE.

*If you are asking if you / your kayak can make the paddle, what gear you need, how long will the paddle take etc...THIS trip IS NOT for YOU.


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*We will host some other shorter / local one way Paddle~N~Fish this spring/ summer with possible bail out points along the way. Stay tuned.

[Hunters Pa]

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Really like the ceiling fan blade paddle

[87yota4runner]

The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

[Squid Vicious]

The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

.....I think you will do good trolling to catalina....your a good troller...now see if he bites :jig:

[Fishwhisperer619]

The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

Not only that, but questions like gear and time of travel aren't reasons to tell someone they can't go. I'm a college athlete and in better shape than most and those are questions I also asked. Little harsh to me but I agree that someone unprepared will only ruin it for others. But that can't be determind now, more like the month of the trip. Either way I'm ready :D

[87yota4runner]

Haha I'm the best. Done it sooooo many times ;) and rather than catching anything, I lost gear lol
So how do you guys set up the smaller one way trips? As in how do you get back to your car?

[alanw]

I'm in no shape to make this paddle, but for the rest of you this site (http://fishingnetwork.net/socal/gps2.htm) says there's Yellowtail, Yellowfin Tuna, Dorado, Marlin, and Rockfish along the way at the "Avalon Bank" and the "14 Mile Bank"

[87yota4runner]

I'm in no shape to make this paddle, but for the rest of you this site (http://fishingnetwork.net/socal/gps2.htm) says there's Yellowtail, Yellowfin Tuna, Dorado, Marlin, and Rockfish along the way at the "Avalon Bank" and the "14 Mile Bank"


That is an awesome site, thank you for the link.


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[Big T]

While I agree with Cabojohn about one thing, as you "probably" aren't mentally or physically (Endurance paddling-wise) if you're asking said questions, I'm assuming if you want to show up and paddle with everyone, you will be acknowledged, but probably told that you're making a dumb and boneheaded decision by someone... Guaranteed.

I've crossed the channel many times (but never on a yak) on small craft and even with the aid of a motor and lack of physical effort on my part, the catalina channel has given me my share of challenges. Some of which would have eaten my lunch on an ill prepared kayak trip. Some of which were NOWHERE in the weather/noaa forecast.

My .02

[Fishwhisperer619]

I don't think anyone expects to just show up and paddle out there. But questions need to be asked by some people, better than not asking and just showing up thinking its gonna be a piece of cake. Can people become a liability if they aren't in shape? Yes, no one wants a trip to fall apart because someone couldn't do it.

But if my calendar is right, which it is, its march 3rd and this trip isn't projected to go until atleast June, which is atleast 3 months away. Decisions of who doesn't get to go (even though no one has that power, even cabojohn) can't really be assessed until atleast the month of the trip, or atleast seeing the person on the water.

MY $0.02

[Big T]

A qualification run two weeks out? Dana Point to somewhere in Newport harbor? Not the same thing and about 7 miles shorter, but if you start later in the morning, the wind can offer more of a challenge. Just a thought.

[Fishwhisperer619]

I would if I lived remotely close but I'm in chula vista. You can do something up there for those in that area. I can try and organize one for down here that goes from mission bay to sd bay? Anyone in the sd area wanting to do this trip and wants to prep for it pm me and we can organize some trips.

[Big T]

I would if I lived remotely close but I'm in chula vista. You can do something up there for those in that area. I can try and organize one for down here that goes from mission bay to sd bay? Anyone in the sd area wanting to do this trip and wants to prep for it pm me and we can organize some trips.

Nah!! Just paddle here from SD... then join em for the rest! Hardcore! ;)

[Fishwhisperer619]

Nah!! Just paddle here from SD... then join em for the rest! Hardcore! ;)

I'm not a badass like you hahahahaha I saw your hooping post and people hating on you

[Big T]

I'm not a badass like you hahahahaha I saw your hooping post and people hating on you

Apparently it's a curse now. :rolleyes:

I seriously WISH I could do this trip... would be such a neat bucket list sort of thing! I know I'm a strong paddler for the most part, but I've never paddled for THAT long... I could only imagine the cramps I'd get.

This sort of thing does give me some possible incentive to go out and do some extended paddling to see if I'm even close. I was chasing whales in Dana Point a couple of weeks ago and cramped up after being out there for a few hours straight paddling non stop... but maybe my arms and back recovered stronger so i could do it just 30 mins longer this week.... hmmmmmm The possibilities.

[Fishwhisperer619]

You could always rent a hobie from oex sunset beach and make the trip that much easier with a mirage drive. I just got a PA 14 and will be making the voyage with that. I had planned on doing it with my wilderness systems ride 120 but sold it and got this. Ready to rock! Mine is caguama, just waiting on my elite-4 hdi to come in now

[alanw]

You could always rent a hobie from oex sunset beach and make the trip that much easier with a mirage drive. I just got a PA 14 and will be making the voyage with that. I had planned on doing it with my wilderness systems ride 120 but sold it and got this. Ready to rock! Mine is caguama, just waiting on my elite-4 hdi to come in now

Dude that might be a tough peddle on a wide barge like the PA. Go with the Adventure Island :p

[Fishwhisperer619]

Dude that might be a tough peddle on a wide barge like the PA. Go with the Adventure Island :p

Believe me I would love to take one of those things out there, but ill be fine in the PA. This is my pride and joy and will take me everywhere. Plus I figure I might as well do it while I'm younger haha. The PA isn't that slow honestly. It still beats the hell out of paddling and I was prepared to do that before I got this.

[Bert Vega]

Believe me I would love to take one of those things out there, but ill be fine in the PA. This is my pride and joy and will take me everywhere. Plus I figure I might as well do it while I'm younger haha. The PA isn't that slow honestly. It still beats the hell out of paddling and I was prepared to do that before I got this.

you can also put a sail on it and cruise it on over. That is if the SS group that is putting it on will let you go. :the_finger:

[Phatford]

I vote that if you want to be approved for the trip you have to take a trip with Josh (darkhorse) and he can sign you off if you keep up with him all day! ha ha WE PUT IN SOME MILES!!!
I haven't been that sore in years!

[Fishwhisperer619]

you can also put a sail on it and cruise it on over. That is if the SS group that is putting it on will let you go. :the_finger:

Yea I've seen a few guys sailing their PA's before but that's money I don't think will be put to good use for me at least might use it twice and then never see it again haha.
Well apparently if you aren't already part of the pre determined select group to do this trip then there is a lot of proving that you need to do. I feel bad for people who want to get into kayak fishing and visited this thread or current members that got excited about this trip and then realized how discouraging it became because nazis run it. What happened to the friendly message this thread started out with?

[Zed]

^Boo hoo. Maybe you could set up a long paddle with people you know are fit enough. Let me ask you these, seriously. Have you capsized in deep water, and righted your PA alone? How much open water experience do you have? Can you surf launch and land that thing? There will be one of each. What's in your safety gear?

IMO this does NOT inspire confidence:
For me I have otay lake in my backyard so I just paddle around the lake for a few hours. Plus when I'm with a group, I won't be the one slowing the pace down so I'm in the clear haha

In Cabo's defense, there was a time when putting up a post like this, one would know who the respondents are. Personally. Now there are many more kayak fishers in many more craft. He doesn't know you, but you seem gung ho. Ordinarily that would be dangerous. Too gung ho may be putting what's in your head before reality. He doesn't know if that's you.

All Cabo's saying is that this is a serious trip, through the shipping lanes, with sometimes unpredictable weather off Fermin. It's not a trip where after 8 hours you can just hit the beach for a rest --like other through paddles. You may still have 4 more hours bucking wind and current. His post was meant to be a stern reminder of these things, not that it is some exclusive trip. You're missing the point. If it was that exclusive it wouldn't be out on the forums, and you would just be reading a TR.

[Fishwhisperer619]

Gung ho? That's funny. As far as my comment about paddling around otay, endurance. Finyak as well as a few others know that I can handle myself in open ocean. No need for concern

[rossman]

You folks are acting as if the day that Cabo and his posse choose to go to Catalina would be the only day possible to do that. If you want to go, plan it , do it, give us a report. This whole dick measuring thing it's just a waste of energy.

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[makobob]

You folks are acting as if the day that Cabo and his posse choose to go to Catalina would be the only day possible to do that. If you want to go, plan it , do it, give us a report. This whole dick measuring thing it's just a waste of energy.

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2X well said Ross!

[Fishwhisperer619]

I was just hoping to have a fun trip with some fellow kayakers to a place I've never been before. The minute someone else decided to plan a trip then there is an alternative option. Otherwise this is what I had wanted to do. HAD wanted to do

[WSA-Bob]

I do a bit of river paddling, and your paddle to Catalina is of interest, but with the aid of the river at about 2 miles an hour the 25 miles we do on the first day, generally takes about 5 hours - my average bay and Ocean is about 3.7 Miles per hour average.

Also do not forget to calculate your currents and the wind factor, on 48 mile paddle on the river that should have taken me 10 hours took 14 hours of hard paddling because of the head winds.

But the above worked out, I am interested in more details - Cost and how are we getting back, the Date and hour of launching.

[bus kid]

THIS paddle will be a one way paddle from Long Beach to Two Harbors with one overnight camping on the island.
More information & details will follow:



I am interested in more details - Cost and how are we getting back, the Date and hour of launching.
I was wondering when someone was going to notice the "one way paddle" part
:you_rock:

[lowprofile]

Idk, with the responses written to those interested I'd find another group just so I didn't have to deal with the egos.

I've flipped my PA several dozen times. Some in 30ft+ water with 5-6ft swells but most while landing after running baits with it. I did a solo rescue to another kayaker that flipped his revo in a 5ft offshore swell, righted it, got him on and hoped back in my PA. I can say with all confidence, it's not hard at all.

I personally believe the Hobie Pro Angler is one of the best open water yaks out there. Stability, capacity and speed are all sufficient for a safe voyage across the channel. The only reason I ever flipped mine more than 100yards off the beach is because of my own stupidity and I knew the risks running baits into a tropical storm.

It looked like this for miles out.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i214/katguy/florida/P1030103_zpsf693498e.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/katguy/media/florida/P1030103_zpsf693498e.jpg.html)

[Squid Vicious]

Idk, with the responses written to those interested I'd find another group just so I didn't have to deal with the egos.

I've flipped my PA several dozen times. Some in 30ft+ water with 5-6ft swells but most while landing after running baits with it. I did a solo rescue to another kayaker that flipped his revo in a 5ft offshore swell, righted it, got him on and hoped back in my PA. I can say with all confidence, it's not hard at all.

I personally believe the Hobie Pro Angler is one of the best open water yaks out there. Stability, capacity and speed are all sufficient for a safe voyage across the channel. The only reason I ever flipped mine more than 100yards off the beach is because of my own stupidity and I knew the risks running baits into a tropical storm.

It looked like this for miles out.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i214/katguy/florida/P1030103_zpsf693498e.jpg (http://s73.photobucket.com/user/katguy/media/florida/P1030103_zpsf693498e.jpg.html)

....damn...that looks like a beach break...only no beach :eek::eek:

[sandydiego]

The best way to see if you are up to the crossing is to load all you fishing gear, beer, food, water, camp gear and see how much of a difference it's going to be paddling with the whole load. Weigh everything - look at the total and add your weight. It all adds up fast. What's the weight limit of your craft? Now go down to the beach, launch and fish all day. You will know your limits and your kayak limits fast.

Good luck to all. Maybe I will make a run next trip.

Cheers

Steve

[makobob]

I was just hoping to have a fun trip with some fellow kayakers to a place I've never been before. The minute someone else decided to plan a trip then there is an alternative option. Otherwise this is what I had wanted to do. HAD wanted to do

See CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!
We can dp this trip BOTH ways, hard or easy. For you guys wanting an easier way check out CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!

[svendawg]

Here is an interesting read about crossing from cabrillo Beach to Catalina on a kayak.
http://www.topkayaker.net/Articles/Destinations/Catalina.html

[Fishwhisperer619]

See CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!
We can dp this trip BOTH ways, hard or easy. For you guys wanting an easier way check out CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!

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