Dana Point Hoopin' 3/2

[Big T]

O...M...G... Those water bumps were epic last night!! Going out of the Dana Pt. Harbor, the waves were just pouring over the breakwall at high tide. Got out there at 6:30 or so. Rain rain and more rain. Every pull was 2-3 bugs.

50 bugs later (about 10 of them no bigger than my hand!) I was about to bring em in at around 3:45 then the harbor patrol came out and recommended that I not be out there.... Really? Where were they when the waves were ACTUALLY dangerous. It was dying down at that point. They also told me I was fishing to close to the mouth of the harbor... so I moved them all to the outer buoy line.

Just as I dropped my last hoop, the wind gusted REALLY hard! Come to find out it wasn't the wind blowing ME it was a wave carrying me with it just before it turned me over and swamped me...

Well, that just plain sucked. I righted the yak and just hung on it for a minute.... then the next wave came. Shit.

Got back on and paddled my ass outta that region. Grabbed all of my hoops and limped home. Went to Jack in the Box and ordered like 10 tacos and drove home.

Interesting night. :)

[ctfphoto]

Wow, your night was way worse than mine. Sounds epic, you will remember last night forever.


What I really like about kayak fishing is "The Adventure"

I am 51 years old and I get to go on an awesome adventure at least once a week.

I am always planning on the next adventure.

This sport is so awesome.

[Casey]

it was so nuts yesterday! We were there! ....Harbor patrol stopped us before it got dark.

[Big T]

it was the nuts yesterday! We were there! ....Harbor patrol stopped us before it got dark.

What did they say to you?

And yes, an adventure around every swell! LOL

[alanw]

The harbor patrol tells you that you shouldn't be out there, and then tells you to go out farther away from the harbor? Crazy!

[Big T]

Yeah, I thought about that too.... as I was dangling in the water.:rolleyes:

[Casey]

our plan was to park the sailboat (That was us over by the bait barge), and work from the kayaks. using the boat to hank out in and be comfortable. We did the same thing last weekend outside the breakwater. I looked at the ocean earlier in the morning and it was not that bad.We stopped off in front of Doheny to check it out @ 4pm and there were waves breaking 300 yards off of shore. (never seen it like that ever). I thought this is not possible but Jettytaco and Juan wanted to give it a shot. So we pulled the boat out of the slip and BAM! The sky opens up with lightning and wind does and 180 degree changes blowin 20+mph. I'm still in jeans and sweatshirt at this point, stuck driving the boat I couldn't get my foul weathers out of the cabin and got soaked. Jetty and Juan dropped there nets and close the harbor and got told not to go out. He took there names and info then drove by me and told me that they would be on there way back.

[Big T]

our plan was to park the sailboat (That was us over by the bait barge), and work from the kayaks. using the boat to hank out in and be comfortable. We did the same thing last weekend outside the breakwater. I looked at the ocean earlier in the morning and it was not that bad.We stopped off in front of Doheny to check it out @ 4pm and there were waves breaking 300 yards off of shore. (never seen it like that ever). I thought this is not possible but Jettytaco and Juan wanted to give it a shot. So we pulled the boat out of the slip and BAM! The sky opens up with lightning and wind does and 180 degree changes blowin 20+mph. I'm still in jeans and sweatshirt at this point, stuck driving the boat I couldn't get my foul weathers out of the cabin and got soaked. Jetty and Juan dropped there nets and close the harbor and got told not to go out. He took there names and info then drove by me and told me that they would be on there way back.

Wow, gnarly Mothership trip!!! The HarborPatrol took their names or the other way around?

I could totally see me doing that just before the cuffs went on. "Don't tell me I can't go play in the waves! What's your name officer?!!"

I kinda did ruffle their feathers when they told me to move my "traps". I promptly said, "The're hoop nets" I just got a glare and,"You've been warned."

LOL...

[Casey]

The reason that they do that, is because you can be billed for rescue. If you go out and need a rescue its on tax dollars. If you go out and were warned that's negligence and you could be billed for the rescue.

[alanw]

Yea I saw them breakers way offshore. Now I know why you want a lighter battery on your yak - so you have more room for your BALLS :notworthy:

[Big T]

The reason that they do that, is because you can be billed for rescue. If you go out and need a rescue its on tax dollars. If you go out and were warned that's negligence and you could be billed for the rescue.

Ahhh politics. Love it.

Good one Alan. :D

[StinkyMatt]

Ok boys, listen up!





I think that what you did last night was pretty dumb.

You knew that we have a major storm in town.

Waves are breaking over the wall.

The harbor patrol ( people that probably know the water much better than you) tell you that it is very dangerous and you shouldn't be there.

You are stubborn and go out there anyways.

You are out at night.

You were solo ( post did not mention company)

You flip your kayak.......



Because of incidents like this, people that like to control others start looking at shutting stuff down.

Your ass was lucky that you were able to climb back in your yak and not get hurt or loose any gear.


Just wait for the sign at the launch...."no kayaks past dusk....penal code.$&@$&@"








Sorry, but that was a bone head move.



My two cents.

[jettytaco]

hahah yup Casey, Juan and I were out there. We were all really curious if we could handle the waves. Juan was the voice of reason or WIMP hahah so we stayed on Casey's sailboat. It was a fun attempt thought.

[ful-rac]

Lobster doesnt taste that good...really!

Lucky your still alive...let alone have all your gear....

[Big T]

So.... I don't normally get into arguments or lash-outs on the internet or anything, but I don't appreciate getting called Dumb or a bone head. Not to mention a boy. That is more appropriately done to my face. Which nobody ever does. You don't know me from Adam (but he's a prick too) and you have NO idea how TAME what I did last night was compared to what I do on a normal basis.

Yes, I am lucky that nothing "bad" happened. I took the risk. And I don't feel it was dumb or a bone head move in the least bit. Risky... yes. Dumb and unprepared, no. To each his own. The same as a white water kayaker takes a risk. Same as any other person that does anything takes a risk just walking out the door. I think launching in sketchy La Jolla surf is way more dangerous than what I did last night. Many more incidents, injuries and way more people doing it.... At night.... Solo. Are they dumb? Bone Heads? Boys? I have gotten quite a bang on the head from landing in ankle-slapper surf but never EVER been injured or even scared for that matter in 10'+ swells.

You're too scared to do it. So be it. Don't go. And your fear of whatever night/storm restrictions they implement on kayakers is your own paranoia.

I've been going out in rough weather for the bugs for a decade. Either on a boat or a kayak. Rarely have an issue. If I do... and I do. I'm prepared and accept the consequences. Consequences that are far minimized by knowledge of the ocean, safety equipment and sense of adventure.

MY $.02

You're right ful-Rac! It really doesn't! But the accomplishment does. :D

[dorado50]

Ok boys, listen up!





I think that what you did last night was pretty dumb.

You knew that we have a major storm in town.

Waves are breaking over the wall.

The harbor patrol ( people that probably know the water much better than you) tell you that it is very dangerous and you shouldn't be there.

You are stubborn and go out there anyways.

You are out at night.

You were solo ( post did not mention company)

You flip your kayak.......



Because of incidents like this, people that like to control others start looking at shutting stuff down.

Your ass was lucky that you were able to climb back in your yak and not get hurt or loose any gear.


Just wait for the sign at the launch...."no kayaks past dusk....penal code.$&@$&@"








Sorry, but that was a bone head move.



My two cents.



Being that close to structure with those huge incoming swells....he's lucky to be telling the tell!

[ctfphoto]

Wow, Harsh.


I like the taste of fish way more than Lobster, so why do I do it, for the adventure ......


My wife thought I was crazy going out last night. I told her about possible lightning and she's like, Really!!!!!!

I just laughed as I knew I would be safe. Safety is always a major concern.

I remember last fall paddling into very high winds in La Jolla. My friend kept warning me about the wind, I just laughed it off as the white caps got bigger and bigger. A big one came over the bow and I'm like hmmm, I guess he is right so we turned around and started in.

I was in San Diego last night and the conditions were bad, but it sounded much worse at Dana. I do not know the area so I do not know what call I would have made on going out or not.

Have fun but be safe.

[StinkyMatt]

I had time to consider my post....


Looking at it again...I now see that you did everything right.



Sorry for the mistake on my part.



Please keep doing what you are doing.





How could I have been so insensitive to your needs for adventure.






A big favor to ask: please call the news crew from ch.7 next time you go out for adventures. We could all learn how it's supposed to be done.





The words boy dumb ass, and bone head move were not an attack but rather an attempt to illustrate the foolishness of the actions you described.

[jruiz]

I don't think anyone is questioning your right to seek adventure. We just don't think it's worth the thousands of dollars spent and possible lives lost when the people who told you that you shouldn't go have to rescue you. I highly doubt your float you have with your loved ones is to not report your disappearance as your willing to face the consequences. The reality is if you don't make it home people will be dragged into a dangerous situation just for your right to seek adventure.

[ful-rac]

Your lucky that nothing bad happened???

Getting flipped in 10ft+ swells at night....sounds bad to me...you sound like one extreme dude!

Glad you made it back!

[walrus]

In today's UT is a article about a sheriff's search at Lake Sutherland for a kayak fisherman missing since 1:30 PM yesterday. His kayak was found floating upside down. He's reported to be experienced and was known to fish there often.

Apparently he knew what he was doing, made a personal choice, and went fishing in bad weather. I feel sad for his family and the sudden loss of one they love.

[alanw]

Yea that's sad for his family. They found his body today. He had heart problems and a pacemaker, no idea if that had anything to do with it. Take a buddy or don't go!

[Dannowar]

Lol at risking your life for a gaggle of shorts

[William Novotny]

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[DennisMorgan]

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers :luxhello:

[bosshoss]

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers :luxhello:

Well said !!!!!:)

[walrus]

Very well said. X2

[Big T]

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers :luxhello:

Well said Dennis. Well Said.

I for one know that ALL of the "negative" comments are really just concerned fellow anglers that thought what I was doing wasn't what they would recommend. THAT I appreciate. All I didn't appreciate was being called Dumb, Bone Headed and immature. I served eight years in your military doing SOME REALLY DUMB SHIT (on your scale of Dumb). In places I HAD to go. Doing things I didn't think I should be doing. A storm and a swell? Please. Cake walk.

Like I said. I'm done. I will do this again. And I appreciate being in your all's concerns. :) I really hope we can all be friends... even if I am a crazy motherfucker.:cheers1:

[DennisMorgan]

I'm a former Marine CJ and know the need for challenge. Let's just do it right and invite our fellow kayakers to join when the challenge is fair....fish well...Semper Fi

[Big T]

Hoorah.

[jorluivil]

O...M...G... Those water bumps were crazy last night, What was I thinking??! Going out of the Dana Pt. Harbor, the waves were just pouring over the breakwall at high tide, when I first saw them I should have thought twice about it but I didn't. Got out there at 6:30 or so. Rain rain and more rain. Every pull was 2-3 bugs.

50 bugs later (about 10 of them no bigger than my hand!) I was about to bring em in at around 3:45 then the harbor patrol came out and recommended that I not be out there, perhaps I should have listened to them but Why didn't they stop me from going out in the first place or when the waves were ACTUALLY dangerous. It was dying down at that point. They also told me I was fishing to close to the mouth of the harbor, I should have just called it a bight at this point but decided to move them all to the outer buoy line.

Just as I dropped my last hoop, the wind gusted REALLY hard! Come to find out it wasn't the wind blowing ME it was a wave carrying me with it just before it turned me over and swamped me, That's when I knew I had made a bad decision to stay.

Well, that just plain sucked, all along with no one to help but I managed to right the yak and just hung on it for a minute.... then the next wave came. Shit.

Got back on and paddled my ass outta that region. Grabbed all of my hoops and limped home. Went to Jack in the Box and ordered like 10 tacos and drove home and thanked the man above for saving me.

Interesting night, Next time I'll keep check the reports or go out with a buddy, sure am glad I'm telling the story and not part of the 10 o'clock news. :)


With all due respect........Had you typed this up as edited above or typed something similar and made it so that others would learn from your mistakes, or experience, instead of saying look at me! Look at me! you wouldn't have received the negative comments that you Did. Sure you survived, I'm glad you Did and I'm sure that everyone else is especially those who love you and need you but telling everyone to back off because you're a bad ass or a marine shows a certain level of irresponsibility. Again, I say this with all due respect to you but sometimes you have to know right from wrong, just because you're a bad ass doesn't mean you should live on the edge.

[Bennyblanco]

this is a great string which is exposing how we are all different. There are differences in each of us. Most all of us enjoy safety first fishing and some like a bit of dirty weather and then there's the extreme like our buddy CJ who gets an adrenaline rush from challenging himself with super surge and waves and sets that scare the hell out of most of us while setting his traps in nasty !@#$ weather. Much like people that surf 40+ waves or scuba in caves it a challenge.... it is done to challenge yourself and experience extreme conditions. we have to remember we are all anglers who love our sport, I suggest we support the extreme and the normal. It is what makes us a community. I appreciate CJ's energy. Let's always recommend safety first but when one of us challenges themselves physically, mentally and the gear they have let's support.
Keep fishing hard and keep supporting your brethren gents! One California kayak fishing community,,,,,thousands of different anglers :luxhello:

Thanks for understanding, you may see me on my jet ski out there on a rainy day going to Catalina and May call me dum ass. But it's a hell of rush if you ask me. I challenge myself many times. And I'm very confident on how far I can swim 5-10 miles , BUT there's things that. Happend and you have no control over. God bless our fellow kayaker.:iagree:

[alanw]

Most badass I've been is realizing at the launch that I forgot my cellphone, and I went out anyway. I did have my VHF though :D

[87yota4runner]

So do you guys wear wet suits when you go out on the moby dick style fishing adventures? Seems like you would be freezing after a mid winter dip no matter what the attire.


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[Big T]

With all due respect........ Blahblahblahblahblahblah ...you should live on the edge.

Are we married? LOL You sure sound like it. Nagging me AND rewording what I say so you can hear yourself say it. Classic good stuff right there.

Never had a problem about the "negative" nature of the posts.... Forums come complete with them... it's expected. Only had a problem with name calling is all.

But thanks for letting me know how to be PC and telling me how I should talk to get a result only YOU care about. :eviltongue:

Good stuff!

Oh... and I wasn't a Marine.... Those guys are Nuckin' Futs! I'm honored by the assumption though. :)

[Big T]

So do you guys wear wet suits when you go out on the moby dick style fishing adventures? Seems like you would be freezing after a mid winter dip no matter what the attire.

Ah the benefits of polypropylene underwear, breathable waders with a wading belt. Any time I have concern of tipping over in rough water, I wear a belt. But yes... the initial dunk is quite frigid. Which was useful because I was kinda getting groggy out there. Woke me right up!

After a minute or so, you get used to it and the poly underwear works with you to warm you up even when wet. Till the wind picks up... then it kinda blows.

[jorluivil]

Are we married? LOL You sure sound like it. Nagging me AND rewording what I say so you can hear yourself say it. Classic good stuff right there.

Never had a problem about the "negative" nature of the posts.... Forums come complete with them... it's expected. Only had a problem with name calling is all.

But thanks for letting me know how to be PC and telling me how I should talk to get a result only YOU care about. :eviltongue:

Good stuff!

Oh... and I wasn't a Marine.... Those guys are Nuckin' Futs! I'm honored by the assumption though. :)


Hahahahaha...... you're not my type!!

I thought I read that you were a marine, my bad.

[Big T]

Hahahahaha...... you're not my type!!

I thought I read that you were a marine, my bad.

LMAO!! Good!

Nah... those guys actually kick ass. I'm just a badass. There's a difference. :cool:

[Big T]

Are you frickin' kidding me? LOL Just so I don't get ANOTHER hate PM on this subject... I do not actually THINK I'm a badass. Someone called me a badass in another post. So therefore, I officially don't THINK I'm a badass.

But... because someone posted it, I actually KNOW I'm a badass.

Any other lame PM's will be ignored. Can't wait to meet you all at a tournament or group event! Soon! It's gonna be fun! If I even get invited! LOL You guys are a mental trip! Love it!

[dorado50]

was that "badass or jackass".....not quite sure now:confused:

report hate pm's to mods

[Big T]

was that "bad ass or jackass".....not quite sure:confused:

Sigh.... so now... I'm a jackass. Wow. I've racked up four new derogatory names in one thread. Over a Hoopin' story. Over me defending my actions against ignorant comments.

Nice.

[dorado50]

Ignorant comments? Listen to yourself sometime........

[Big T]

Ignorant comments? Listen to yourself sometime........

I promise to "listen to myself" from now on.

Promise me you will find and read the definition of ignorant. :rolleyes:

[Fishwhisperer619]

Popcorn ready :D

[Big T]

Popcorn ready :D

I know right? This is seriously hilarious. Wait! Oxymoron alert!

Watch, someone's gonna get pissed that I called someone a Moron.

[Dannowar]

Dude have you tried www.bloodydecks.com ?



Have a bwe vacation. On BD they're a lot nicer than we are with our name calling and ignorance

[Fishwhisperer619]

So do you guys wear wet suits when you go out on the moby dick style fishing adventures? Seems like you would be freezing after a mid winter dip no matter what the attire.


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I used to have a spring suit that I would wear but mine got destroyed by my dog so I need to get another. Stays cool under loose clothing and regulates core body temp.

[jorluivil]

Dude have you tried www.bloodydecks.com ?



Have a bwe vacation. On BD they're a lot nicer than we are with our name calling and ignorance

Here you only need a bag of popcorn, sometimes two but on BD you'll need Orville Redenbacher

[Dannowar]

Well said Dennis. Well Said.

I for one know that ALL of the "negative" comments are really just concerned fellow anglers that thought what I was doing wasn't what they would recommend. THAT I appreciate. All I didn't appreciate was being called Dumb, Bone Headed and immature. I served eight years in your military doing SOME REALLY DUMB SHIT (on your scale of Dumb). In places I HAD to go. Doing things I didn't think I should be doing. A storm and a swell? Please. Cake walk.

Like I said. I'm done. I will do this again. And I appreciate being in your all's concerns. :) I really hope we can all be friends... even if I am a crazy motherfucker.:cheers1:




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[jorluivil]

wait, so you're not a marine, but you say here you are.....



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I guess I was wrong about not being right when I said i was wrong?

[jorluivil]

WTF !!

What happened to ckjdad?

Can I change my user name? I'm tired of people trying to pronounce my user name as if It's actually a word. You should listen to some of the guys, some sound like they're drunk or high or drunk and high. It's quite funny but It's one of those 'you had to be there' deeleeoo's.

[ctfphoto]

umm...

[alanw]

WTF !!

What happened to ckjdad?

Can I change my user name? I'm tired of people trying to pronounce my user name as if It's actually a word. You should listen to some of the guys, some sound like they're drunk or high or drunk and high. It's quite funny but It's one of those 'you had to be there' deeleeoo's.

Only thing worse than your user name is your avatar, I hate seeing that thing haha

[ful-rac]

Ignorant comments? Listen to yourself sometime........

I find it interesting how people in here are so quick to make judgments based on the shape of someone's eyes

Not many black guys on this forum... so you're gonna have a hard time trading shorter for longer. Most of us need something longer. But I understand your wife's concern.

Ful rac is kinda stuck with the eyes though.

a wise man once said,"Better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."


Maybe you should take your own advice.

[Fishwhisperer619]

This should be settled at the rockfish derby. Side bets anyone?

[Dannowar]

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[ZUMAN]

I think the original post should be a sticky......"What Not To Do"

What a blatant attempt to establish internet machismo!!

Assuming from your previous name that you have children?
The decision to paddle in those conditions is totally idiotic!!!

There's a fine line between adventure and stupidity:stupid::stupid::stupid::stupid:

[born2fish]

Off topic :D:D:D Do you know a good surf fishing spot near Dana Point for surf perch and hali?:wsb::wsb::D

[Deamon]

Big T, you've been around long enough to know the deal, right? Self deprecating humor, maybe receiving a kick if deserved or not..! I can help you fix this right up. Just tell me how to change my screen name buddy. I'll take care of these sum bitches no prob :D Except Roby...I can't help you with that no good, sneaky, sticking dead trout in one's kayak hatch, wetting down other's sleeping bags, good for just about nothing Numba one a-hole. Okay, okay, maybe he pulled my ass out of the water in the dark of night..and maybe i was tangled up in a little bit of braid but so what, the water wasn't very cold. You know I turned in my Team Roby membership application months ago and haven't heard a damn thing? Sum bitch crab caca eating bottom feeder :the_finger: Screen name change deal, Big T...pass it on brotha. Jim

[wiredantz]

Going out in a storm, SCARY!!!


Most of us have families that would like us to be safe out on the water. It is because they do not want to see our kids bury us.


We are a small kayak community, so someone always knows somebody that got injured or hurt in some way.


Stay Safe, and know your limit is the best advice I can give to you all.


Most of us here are not experienced to capsizing in huge storm swells, so we fear the thought of what you described.


Have fun. :cheers1:



P.S.

When I read your story I Imagined this:
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In conditions like this:

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[bus kid]

Rock fish here I come!

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[Big T]

Admin changed the log-in name for me.

[Big T]

Maybe you should take your own advice.

I'm not sure what that advice is in particular. I don't remember giving any advice that contradicts anything I have posted, but I will say that most of those comments were jokes. Jokes I figured would be taken well. The other comments were referring to someone being judgmental of someone based on their race, education or eye shape. The black comment was a joke and everybody took it as a joke... if they didn't that's their problem and would probably say that I "was being judgemental of a person based on race". Whatever. If they were not taken as jokes, I obviously misjudged the forum readers a bit. And have taken serious note. I'm semi aware of who is who at this point, so I will just sit back, let it roll and see where my next posts take me. I will say that I can understand the concerns now of people not sticking around because of Bloodydecks style banter.

I actually understand where people are coming from. Their actual "feelings" on my outing probably run the gamut from, yes.. ignorance to total understanding and experience. From love to hate. Jealousy to acceptance. People are all different. And at different levels of maturity and communication skills on the internet. So I guess I should have expected this. Lesson learned

Attempt at machismo?? Please.... Just given the way you posted, is a kettle calling the frying pan black.

I completely understand the route this thread has taken. And am embarrassed to say I got sucked in. The people who have name-called and taken things I've said out of context and even put words in my mouth have their own issues.... Issues that most members are thinking, "Yep, there go those troublemakers again. Grab the popcorn and lets watch this new guy get hammered." Multiple PM's from multiple members have advised me to not waste my time with a select few. Thanks for the heads up.

So anyway, I actually woke up this morning "thinking" about this particular subject... The sad part is, that it actually occupied my mind!!. I actually felt bummed a little about this thread.... That's so sad on my part. It really is. I actually put emotional energy into this... What a waste.

The people who have simply posted concerned, neutral or funny/good posts are appreciated. It's actually been fun in that regard. What a forum should be.

The people who have acted true to their negative character, have other issues to deal with. Big ones.

I will no longer add anything to this thread as it has become rather useless. (The last page especially)

[87yota4runner]

Ah the benefits of polypropylene underwear, breathable waders with a wading belt....After a minute or so, you get used to it and the poly underwear works with you to warm you up even when wet. Till the wind picks up... then it kinda blows.


So for poly underwear, would these work?11735

I also have these laying around if that's what you meant11736

Now who wants to go fishing with me? Haha

[PJ]

:ack2:O...M...G... Those water bumps were epic last night!! Going out of the Dana Pt. Harbor, the waves were just pouring over the breakwall at high tide. Got out there at 6:30 or so. Rain rain and more rain. Every pull was 2-3 bugs.

50 bugs later (about 10 of them no bigger than my hand!) I was about to bring em in at around 3:45 then the harbor patrol came out and recommended that I not be out there.... Really? Where were they when the waves were ACTUALLY dangerous. It was dying down at that point. They also told me I was fishing to close to the mouth of the harbor... so I moved them all to the outer buoy line.

Just as I dropped my last hoop, the wind gusted REALLY hard! Come to find out it wasn't the wind blowing ME it was a wave carrying me with it just before it turned me over and swamped me...

Well, that just plain sucked. I righted the yak and just hung on it for a minute.... then the next wave came. Shit.

Got back on and paddled my ass outta that region. Grabbed all of my hoops and limped home. Went to Jack in the Box and ordered like 10 tacos and drove home.

Interesting night. :)

[StinkyMatt]

Big T,

When I first replied to your horror story, I replied because I was angry with you. I was upset because guys like you screw it up for the rest of us!

Guys who do not care about the consequences of their actions and only live for themselves bug the crap out of me.


Guys that repeatedly do the same STUPID stuff over and over again and do not learn......that is YOU.


You have done this stuff before...fell out of a skiff while fishing boilers in a storm......LEARN!

Flipped a yak/ tube at Cabrillo......LEARN!

Flip a kayak at Dana at night in a major storm......LEARN!



We all have mishaps and accidents...part of the game. However, you seem to be ignorant of the fact that you are doing something wrong that will affect you loved ones and other fishermen around you when it finally catches up to you.


YOU posted all these "adventures" of yours on public forums (BWE and BD)...you WILL get public comments.



Guys like you cost me freedoms.:)





Doing something bad like this ONCE.......= accident


Repeatedly banging your head against the wall.....= (you fill in the blank)



Not calling you names....just calling your actions......dumb.:D

[jorluivil]

With or without butter?

[dorado50]

He purposely goes out into open waters with 10' + swells, storm surge, and wind waves on top of that. Disregards HP recommendation to abort. Proceeds to be swamped by unexpected large swell in the dead of night. Is luckily able to right his kayak. He purposely could have endangered the lives of HP and SAR if not for his heroic actions of self rescue!. That's what I'm talking about! Just awesome! This is why :you_rock: .....If only I and others could be like you......:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notwort hy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::no tworthy::notworthy:

[roby]

Big T, you've been around long enough to know the deal, right? Self deprecating humor, maybe receiving a kick if deserved or not..! I can help you fix this right up. Just tell me how to change my screen name buddy. I'll take care of these sum bitches no prob :D Except Roby...I can't help you with that no good, sneaky, sticking dead trout in one's kayak hatch, wetting down other's sleeping bags, good for just about nothing Numba one a-hole. Okay, okay, maybe he pulled my ass out of the water in the dark of night..and maybe i was tangled up in a little bit of braid but so what, the water wasn't very cold. You know I turned in my Team Roby membership application months ago and haven't heard a damn thing? Sum bitch crab caca eating bottom feeder :the_finger: Screen name change deal, Big T...pass it on brotha. Jim

Hahaha....I miss you Jim.

From: The Other Slanted-Eyed Bastard

[Aaron&Julie]

I thought this chain would've died a couple of days ago.

Fact, is the guy wasn't ignorant and knew what he was getting into. With that knowledge, when his misfortune did happen, he handled it properly.

So he got shorts all night that doesn't indicate it was a waste of time, just poor luck. Sometimes dirty water from storms can be the ticket for a nice limit of bugs.
It wasn't, too bad for him on that result.

Everyone of us takes risks when venturing into the open waters. If you're a newbie, you'll usually start in bays to get a feel, then small surf, then bigger surf as your confidence rises.

By the time, Julie and I had enough experience in larger waves, we both launched in 4 foot surf in the dark, in the winter at LJ. About 4-5 other kayakers on the beach didn't dare, waiting 'til it got light out. I being the faster paddler, barely made it out, barely punching through, then slamming on the backside of 3 large waves, while getting drenched and wet up to my face, . When I looked for Julie, right after, she was no where to be seen. After a 10-15 minute wait, and just about to go back in, which I certainly didn't want to attempt a landing in that size surf in the dark, she comes paddling out. She didn't clear one of those good-sized sets, flipped, got banged up a little. After reflipping the kayak, getting her bearings together, she made it out on her next attempt. She's a helluva trouper. The thing is we knew the risk, had adversity, but prevailed. She caught her 1st WSB ever (about 30lbs) and and I caught a nice yellow of the same size. Her flip in the surf, while certainly a shock to her, was easily dismissed by her, and the smile on her face after getting that white, proved that.

We do believe in having a friend/partner with you when you can, especially in adverse conditions. She's not gone solo, and we stay close together when we both go. I've done maybe 3 solo bug trips, and maybe 6 solo LJ trips. It's safer and more enjoyable having partners like we do. But, we're not about to criticize those that do go solo.

We've both were knocked into the water of some rocks in South Laguna while shore fishing, by a sneaky wave. That shocked the hell out of us, too. I got to her and she clung to me while we swam back to the rock we fished from, crawling on mussel beds 'til we could get to our feet. We didn't lose either outfit we were using, learned some respect for how far out we should go on this island we waded to, and didn't have regrets for our "ADVENTURE", just another one, one we learned from, and we expect more adventures in the future, that may test our limits. We sure and hell don't give a shit if our adventure puts the world of kayak fishing in jeopardy from evening closures, or other repercussions. If that were the case, going on hikes in the wilderness, skydiving, hang-gliding, cliff climbing would all be outlawed, as their rate of injury/fatality is probably much higher than that of kayak fishing.

Grey whales have breached on Private boaters, killing all on board, not likely to happen, but if one did on your kayak, you'd be toast. Great whites have been known to attack kayaks. Surf landings themselves can be precarious, if flipped and the force of the wave knocks your kayak into an arm or a leg, it could be broken. Hell if it hit you in the head, it could knock you out. The more experience you have, the less likely surf landings will injure you.

I won't go into the incredibly difficult night bugging 2 days after the Japan Tsunami in SD Bay, supposedly when the threat of drastic swells, currents, and water level changes were supposed to have subsided, which they hadn't. It was vicious is all I'll say.

The risks are always there, so kudos to you Big T, way to correctly handle your situation.

Aaron

[jruiz]

Attitudes like this is what get's innocent people killed.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20131130/one-man-dead-after-trying-to-save-man-boy-swept-from-cabrillo-beach-breakwater

[William Novotny]

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[alanw]

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[ctfphoto]

This is my favorite....

[ful-rac]

It's ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!



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["jjcawjj"]

I Hate when That happen!!! Not a fun time when you get ROLLED!!!:mad: thanks for sharing!

[kwest10]

I'll be your wingman! Live in Irvine and am always looking for a spotter out on the water. We don't have to share a meal or long showers after but having a partner on the open water at night is always a plus.