Launching........

[ceruleandrms]

For all of you out there that have done both, which beach launch is harder/more difficult/scarier/involves more prayer: LJ or County Line?

[tamddo714]

involves more prayers... LOL

[Dannowar]

Does it really matter? People are gonna yard sale at both

[ceruleandrms]

Does it really matter? People are gonna yard sale at both

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.

[ceruleandrms]

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.

Let me explain: I live closer to county line. I've yet to have a really bad incident launching but know its bound to happen. I hear LJ can be rough and since I live over 100 miles from there I'm asking for people's opinions. I'm not from Malibu or any of the close beach cities, I'm just someone who enjoys being on the water and tries to get out as much as possible. I usually learn by trial and error but since I would like to fish LJ sometime soon, maybe someone can let me know what to expect.

[jorluivil]

Its like comparing apples to tube socks

[driftwood]

Still not sure what your looking for :confused: A fishing experience or BIG wave wipe out experience? Cause if your looking for big wave action you're going to be very disappointed next few week off La Jolla.

http://magicseaweed.com/Scripps-Pier-La-Jolla-Surf-Report/296/

[Dannowar]

Yeah it does matter. Thats why I'm asking.



La jolla. You will flip and I will collect the footage and post it on the internet.


Good luck

[Iceman]

County Line/Yerba Buena Beach in Ventura is a quite exposed beach and reef break that has consistent surf and can work at any time of the year.

tube socks!

[GregAndrew]

If you can launch at CL when Surfline forecasts 2-3 footers, then you will almost never have any problem with LJ.

[Dannowar]

To answer te question. If you're 100 miles away, la jolla is pretty predictable. Launchable almost year round. Avoid short period large swell and you're good.

[ceruleandrms]

Still not sure what your looking for :confused: A fishing experience or BIG wave wipe out experience? Cause if your looking for big wave action you're going to be very disappointed next few week off La Jolla.

http://magicseaweed.com/Scripps-Pier-La-Jolla-Surf-Report/296/

Looking for a new fishing experience in a new area. I can do county line but never did LJ so I'm trying to get an idea on how its gonna be.

[ceruleandrms]

To answer te question. If you're 100 miles away, la jolla is pretty predictable. Launchable almost year round. Avoid short period large swell and you're good.

Thank you.

[momo fish]

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.

La jolla seems to be half as bad as county line. A better comparison would be nearby Leo Carrillo. It's a short 20 minute paddle to county and can fish spots along the way or drift back in afternoon.

I launch a few times this year from county and today may be my last for now. Predicted 2-3 footers but the short intervals was the surprise. I never took so many waves to the face than today and through deep prayers made it much to the delight of the surfers. 4 waves to the face is enough for me to stick to Leo until conditions are better.

[Dannowar]

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.



Oh stop being a fun hater

[addicted2sp33d]

I have now done both and can provide a non-sarcastic or non-ahole response.

Every site needs at least one a-hole... otherwise the site would be anal retentive - it's a biological fact.

[TCS]

As stated above, the key at La Jolla is the interval. A 3 foot swell with an 8 second interaval will break chest high (chest high on a surfer, overhead on a kayaker) at the launch. A 3 foot swell with a 14 second interval and the a launch is like a lake.

This time of year its important to not just look at the forecast model because it often misses the windswell. Look at the CDIP forecast or the torrey pines bouy to see the actual interval before you drive down.

I would also suggest you go out without your fishing gear on a day that there is some surf and practice. Unless you have a PA, which is really a boat and not a kayak, you should be able to handle waist high surf pretty easily.

Charge it on the way out and keep the kayak facing directly into the waves. On the way back in try and stay on the backs of the waves. If a wave is catching up with you don't surf it. Instead, put your feet in the water and back paddle so the wave goes under you then paddle as far as you can before the next one catches up with you, then back paddle again.

Next time your shopping for a kayak, talk to Andy about which models handle surf the best so that you have more days you can fish. I like the adventure for this reason.

[Dannowar]

Didn't mean to come across like a dick...thought the thread was about which was scarier in a macho kind of way. All in good fun.

[ceruleandrms]

As stated above, the key at La Jolla is the interval. A 3 foot swell with an 8 second interaval will break chest high (chest high on a surfer, overhead on a kayaker) at the launch. A 3 foot swell with a 14 second interval and the a launch is like a lake.

This time of year its important to not just look at the forecast model because it often misses the windswell. Look at the CDIP forecast or the torrey pines bouy to see the actual interval before you drive down.

I would also suggest you go out without your fishing gear on a day that there is some surf and practice. Unless you have a PA, which is really a boat and not a kayak, you should be able to handle waist high surf pretty easily.

Charge it on the way out and keep the kayak facing directly into the waves. On the way back in try and stay on the backs of the waves. If a wave is catching up with you don't surf it. Instead, put your feet in the water and back paddle so the wave goes under you then paddle as far as you can before the next one catches up with you, then back paddle again.

Next time your shopping for a kayak, talk to Andy about which models handle surf the best so that you have more days you can fish. I like the adventure for this reason.

Thank you for the good advice. Appreciate it very much

[addicted2sp33d]

Get out and try it - there will always be days where La Jolla is not-so-bueno for noobs, and there are other days when County Line is not-so-bueno for noobs.

The trick is not to figure out which beach is better for noobs... the trick is to get some experience and not be a noob.

Just make sure everything is stored below decks and everything is leashed.

If you're worried about losing stuff, then get out there and practice without any gear. It'll be worth it. :)

[ceruleandrms]

Get out and try it - there will always be days where La Jolla is not-so-bueno for noobs, and there are other days when County Line is not-so-bueno for noobs.

The trick is not to figure out which beach is better for noobs... the trick is to get some experience and not be a noob.

Just make sure everything is stored below decks and everything is leashed.

If you're worried about losing stuff, then get out there and practice without any gear. It'll be worth it. :)

Sounds good. Thank you.

[Deamon]

Didn't mean to come across like a dick...thought the thread was about which was scarier in a macho kind of way. All in good fun.

As Jeff Spicoli once told his teacher (Mr. Hand?) in an old movie..."you dick!" Bahahahahaha!!!

[Dannowar]

As Jeff Spicoli once told his teacher (Mr. Hand?) in an old movie..."you dick!" Bahahahahaha!!!

THATS THE NAME THEY GAVE ME

[yaksailor]

Everything else being equal; swell, period, tide height and direction...County Line has a much higher pucker factor.

CL is a steep, fast and peaky break. It's hard to tell where the next random peak will come up, and when it does, it's fast. The shore is uneven in depth. Wait until you can see the bottom before you get out. A premature dismount can put you into the deep end. Besides that, when you land, you have to slalom through a dozen short-boarders who are eager for entertainment between sets. The sound of surfers whooping it up at landing time = adrenaline landing.

La Jolla, IMO, is a shallow, slow, organized break. The shore is fairly even in depth. The waves peel off like an escalator at Macy's. Sometimes you can walk out for yards and still be in knee-deep water. If you're patient, you can time it with confidence.

[StinkyMatt]

The guy above said it perfectly.

:D

[otterpupster]

For all of you out there that have done both, which beach launch is harder/more difficult/scarier/involves more prayer: LJ or County Line?
Count Ln 4sure. Used to surf that area.Just s/o the point whn the sets come in WATCHOUT.Getting caught inside is a washing machine.Gotta time ur paddle out righteous lookin for that lull.Its all 'bout timing Bro!

[wiredantz]

My 4 year old can launch la jolla with no problem.




County line I have seen thousands of dollars being taken away by that launch.

[Widgeon]

I have less than a dozen surf launches under my belt.
I believe 2 were at LJ shores and in my experience it is BY FAR the easiest launch/ landing. Very sheltered.
My go to spot ( though I've been out of the game for a couple years) is near Big Rock, just south of Windansea. Good place to avoid the crowds, but a little more work.
This summer I am hoping to launch somewhere off of OB or Point Loma and fish that kelp.
You just have to time it right and hope for the best.
I have had one major yard sale. It comes with the territory. Just make sure your things are tied to the boat and don't F- around.