DAIWA STTLD20H

[Smokeybear]

Hi everyone,
New member here, looking forward to learn a few thing here, I fished from a kayak a few times, mostly rockfish, calico and halibut.
I was thinking to try YT and WSB with a Daiwa SttLD20H reel.

This reel has small spool with capacity of 200 yards of #50 or 260 yards of #40 spectra braid. Drag 13.2lb strike and 22lb max. 6.3:1 gears.
What size braid and top shot should I use?

[Smokeybear]

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!:rolleyes:

[Hunters Pa]

Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak. My personal choice would be 40# braid and flouro topshot if you are looking to use braid

[Dannowar]

Try the search function.

[Smokeybear]

Try the search function.
Is that how you welcome someone new to this site? :confused:

[Smokeybear]

Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak. My personal choice would be 40# braid and flouro topshot if you are looking to use braid How easy was that.
There still good people out there,

Thank you!

[Smokeybear]

=Hunters Pa;201881]Go with what you are comfortable using. Don't fish with anything you can't break off while balanced on a kayak.
This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

[chris138]

How easy was that.
There still good people out there,

Thank you!

Chill out bro your post has been up for a day! Most people who look at posts don't ever reply, because they are lurkers.

With regard to your question, IMO a 20 is too small. 200yds is great, but after you tie off and break off a few times and lose some of that line, you might be a little short for a big yellow. A lot of guys, myself included, run 65# spec for the kelp. Top shot should not be used for a kelp cutter rig. You should run straight spec to a ~3-4ft flouro leader, prob 30 or 40#. If you have too much flouro, you wont be able to cut through the kelp.

Rod choice for spectra is very crucial. You need a really noodley rod because braid and flouro have no stretch. A big seabass will do huge headshakes and with no elasticity in the line, they come unbuttoned real easily.

If you're not near kelp, you don't really need spectra. Stick w 30 to 50 lb mono.

To Dannowar's point, there are LOTs of threads on BWE pertaining to this subject. Try look brah!

[chris138]

This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

No way you can break off 65# braid. Your flouro knot will be the first thing to go. Ive even snapped 80lb swivels before the spec snaps.

[oneyedeer]

This is a very good advise, I know a lot of people are fishing with #65 spectra, what's the best method to break this size braid? I'm a big guy I can break 40 or 50 mono when I'm standing on ground or a large size boat by pulling hard with a wrapped rug on my arm, a kayak is very different because you have no way to hold the kayak from moving when you're pulling, I guess if you can't break the line there's no other solution the using a knife.
Can you break #65 braid setting the reel drag to the max I would think it will slip or it my damage the reel?

nice pair of pliers does the trick

[ful-rac]

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!:rolleyes:



You need to sloooow your roll HOMIE!


You want the people here help you, that's not the attitude to have. Im sure the truly nice people here that want to help you... don't appreciate your sarcasm.

I know I don't....but I'm not nice. :eek:

[food4less562]

WOW 140 viewers welcoming the new member.
There's a lot of nice and friendly people here, very kind of you!:rolleyes:

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[Smokeybear]

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.:mad:

[Apex]

Not off to a good start I see

[bosshoss]

" What you talking about Willis " :smokin:

[RobFish]

From the top…
-Welcome Mr. Smokey
-have some patience
-relax a bit, as in lighten up. Not being sarcastic. Roll with it. Breathe.
-you asked a question, expect all sorts of answers. Some will be positive, some negative, some funny, some sarcastic, some beneficial, etc.
-20 sized reels are fine. Spooled with 50 braid and a 30/40 flouro topshot, you're going to be fine for most fish out there. Remember that you're on a kayak, not a boat. Line capacity matters when you're on a boat as you need to stand your ground, but on a kayak, tighten the drag a bit, and enjoy the sleigh ride. Mr. fishy has to tow your ass around, and they tire out eventually.
Lots of good answers already posted. The search one was more than valid. Noodley rod too. Kelp cutting. No stretch. These are all great tips.
Welcome to the forum. Now go fish.

[food4less562]

" What you talking about Willis " :smokin:

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[food4less562]

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.:mad:

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[Smokeybear]

Seriously some of you need to grow up or get a job, how miserable you have to be to mistreat and make fun of someone because he's a newbie, no I don't kiss anyone Arse, but I'm aware of trolls in every forum, most of them are young drunks and pot head losers which they just show up like some online thugs with no respect for others.

All those stupid pics that you guys uploaded tells me how immature you really are. I'm sure there are some intelligent members in here except the trolls posting nothing but stupidity.

[chris138]

Chill out? HOMIE? Classic trolls that when someone disagree they show up.
Thanks don't need your attitude. If you don't have anything good to say please stay OUT! Go pick on someone else.:mad:

What?!?!? Who disagreed? I totally answered your question?!? How are Tony and I trolls? You take offense to that, I think your skin might be a little too thin for internet message boards.

You sound like the kind who will fish la jolla two or three times then quit all together. Good luck buddy.

[Smokeybear]

C'mon guys go watch porn or do something move on thread's closed!

[chris138]

I also notice you didn't put your real name or a picture of yourself so who is the troll?

Anyway this board is about sharing info, good humor and good times, no need for hostility.

Why don't you come fish the 9 with me on Sunday? Seriously PM me and we can go out together!

[Smokeybear]

You want my real name yeah sure you want my credit card number too?
Seriously what small percentage of member use their real name.:confused:
Thanks for the invitation maybe someday. I live in the High Desert not in la Jolla.
No I"m not sensitive I just don't appreciate some dude I never met telling me to"Chill off Dude" or some of the other terms you may use with your beer bodies, if you come up like that on me in public I will tell you my mind.
So to became friends you need to approach the right way, because been new member doesn't mean I have to put out with the sarcasm. I am in my mid 40s so maybe I think different.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Listen bro, use 50lb spectra, don't use cheap crap braid. When rockfishing, use a mono leader for stretch when pounding the rocks, fly lining live bait, use a flouro leader, when throwing irons and fast moving jigs, swim baits, tie straight to braid.

Now quit the drama (everyone) and let's go get us some fish!!!

Welcome aboard!:cheers1:

[Smokeybear]

Admin, please delete this thread,
Let's star over and put this one behind.

Thank you..

[chris138]

It's all good man. I put my name and picture because I meet a lot of folks on the water and I want them to know who I am so we can communicate later on. That's how you get the real good dope from people on here. Anyway you'll find lots of members willing to help you out. It's guys like me and many others who fish LJ 2 or 3 times a week who you want on your good side! You just gotta take some lumps like anything else. See you OTW:jig:

[Smokeybear]

Listen bro, use 50lb spectra, don't use cheap crap braid. When rockfishing, use a mono leader for stretch when pounding the rocks, fly lining live bait, use a flouro leader, when throwing irons and fast moving jigs, swim baits, tie straight to braid.

Now quit the drama (everyone) and let's go get us some fish!!!

Welcome aboard!:cheers1:
I agree..Thank you:cheers1:
Btw, my question was I have a small spool in the Daiwa LD20 if I use #40 Spectra I can get 260yards, with #50 about 200yards. For YT or WSB is this enough line?

[food4less562]

You want my real name yeah sure you want my credit card number too?
Seriously what small percentage of member use their real name.:confused:
Thanks for the invitation maybe someday. I live in the High Desert not in la Jolla.
No I"m not sensitive I just don't appreciate some dude I never met telling me to"Chill off Dude" or some of the other terms you may use with your beer bodies, if you come up like that on me in public I will tell you my mind.
So to became friends you need to approach the right way, because been new member doesn't mean I have to put out with the sarcasm. I am in my mid 40s so maybe I think different.


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[Silbaugh4liberty]

I agree..Thank you:cheers1:
Btw, my question was I have a small spool in the Daiwa LD20 if I use #40 Spectra I can get 260yards, with #50 about 200yards. For YT or WSB is this enough line?

I'm pretty sure you're good with either 40 or 50lb. Don't over think it. Spool it with 40 and see how that works. I think 40 braid is about the same diameter as 12 lb mono.

[Smokeybear]

Anyway you'll find lots of members willing to help you out. It's guys like me and many others who fish LJ 2 or 3 times a week who you want on your good side! You just gotta take some lumps like anything else. See you OTW:jig: I apreciaste your help but I might fish la Jolla once a year if I do because I usually fish down in Baja I can catch same or better than LJ, so If I have to drive that far south I keep on going into Mexico, La jolla is already too crowded and over fished IMHO Iam more interested in fishing close to me maybe Malibu, SB or Goleta area for hali, calico, ling, I can fish for Jurel (YT) and Wsb down in baja.

[momo fish]

I was going to reply but looks like you got everything figured out....


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[janines.fishtales@cox.net]

I have never gotten anything but warmth, acceptance, and damn good advice on this site. Carry on guys...

Janine

[Widgeon]

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LMAO
:D

[Deamon]

:reddy: Welcome.

[janines.fishtales@cox.net]

LMAO
:D

And I like how immature you guys are!

J

[Smokeybear]

I was going to reply but looks like you got everything figured out....


http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/01/bypevepe.jpgCan you be more specific with words?

[Smokeybear]

:reddy: Welcome.
No problem same here!:the_finger:

[Bert Vega]

:you_rock:

[Widgeon]

And I like how immature you guys are!

J

This was a reply I made, quoting a previous reply. I got a good laugh out of the reply, not at anyone's expense.
Don't point your finger at me.

[Raskal311]

Not a typical question for someone who fish down south for better than LJ fish :S Welcome

[food4less562]

I apreciaste your help but I might fish la Jolla once a year if I do because I usually fish down in Baja I can catch same or better than LJ, so If I have to drive that far south I keep on going into Mexico, La jolla is already too crowded and over fished IMHO Iam more interested in fishing close to me maybe Malibu, SB or Goleta area for hali, calico, ling, I can fish for Jurel (YT) and Wsb down in baja.

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[RK]

Bump

[jorluivil]

Expected this

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Ended up with this

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[momo fish]

Bingo!

[jorluivil]

Seriously some of you need to grow up or get a job, how miserable you have to be to mistreat and make fun of someone because he's a newbie, no I don't kiss anyone Arse, but I'm aware of trolls in every forum, most of them are young drunks and pot head losers which they just show up like some online thugs with no respect for others.

All those stupid pics that you guys uploaded tells me how immature you really are. I'm sure there are some intelligent members in here except the trolls posting nothing but stupidity.

Welcome to the nut house...............


P.S.

You're going to fit right in:D

[food4less562]

Expected this

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Ended up with this

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WELCOME!


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[ful-rac]

Oh no he di-nt'!:eek:

Now thats just hittn below the belt!

[Smokeybear]

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[Smokeybear]

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WELCOME!


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:kayak-surfer:

[chris138]

Lol that's the spirit!

[octico]

Lol that's the spirit!

+1 ... nobody is trolling we are just having fun. You just keep fueling the fire.

BTW ... how did you get a pic of me in my yak (stalker), and just for the record I had a few beers that day. :cheers1:

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[Smokeybear]

+1 ... nobody is trolling we are just having fun. You just keep fueling the fire.
:cheers1:

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I know, I'm not taking it seriously I'm just getting even with food4less LOL!:D

[Zed]

+1 ... nobody is trolling we are just having fun. You just keep fueling the fire.

BTW ... how did you get a pic of me in my yak (stalker), and just for the record I had a few beers that day. :cheers1:

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa219/cadriver/2837837607_23d695c5fb_zps5faf1645.jpg
That looks like a generic stock hobie catalog photo to me.

[jorluivil]

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:kayak-surfer:

searching the internet for those pics is bad but posting them...........:eek:

[ful-rac]

searching the internet for those pics is bad but posting them...........:eek:



No shit...?!

what do you have to type into google to find that one....


Fill in the blank__________________.

[food4less562]

searching the internet for those pics is bad but posting them...........:eek:

Exactly. Safe view search feature was turned off lol

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[619-SWIM-DOG]

searching the internet for those pics is bad but posting them...........:eek:

Lol...looks like someone's parents took there internet filters off.

[StinkyMatt]

Whoever this dude is, he trolled you guys real good.........


:D









With all the baja , goleta, Malibu etc. experience he doesn't know the basic shit, he catches all kinds of fish everywhere but LJ..........Comon!


You all let him off the hook way too easy.

[jorluivil]

No shit...?!

what do you have to type into google to find that one....


Fill in the blank_______TEAM LOLLIPOP___________.

My first guess:D

[WildernessWanker]

On behalf of the residents of the High Desert, I blame the heat for periods of insanity. Although there are a bunch of people up here that prove evolution is working in 2 directions apparently.

[ful-rac]

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[Smokeybear]

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[food4less562]

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Damn lol, clowning on avatar look-alikes

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[food4less562]

popcorn
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[RK]

Bump

[Dannowar]

My first guess:D

OH NO YOU DI'INT

[jorluivil]

OH NO YOU DI'INT

Tony made me do it:D

[Apex]

Dame lazy pot heads stop watching porn go to work lol

[RK]

Bump

[makobob]

So Smokey which image are you going to use for your AVATAR? To date you have made 18 posts ALL on this thread, might be time to let it go. Thanks.

[wiredantz]

If you guys didn't know yet. BWE is full of the most Sarcastic, snarky, and most opinionated guys ever!:cheers1:

[jorluivil]

If you guys didn't know yet. BWE is full of the most Sarcastic, snarky, and most opinionated guys ever!:cheers1:

^^^^^^All those^^^^^^^ plus Frank.

[wiredantz]

^^^^^^All those^^^^^^^ plus Frank.

But I will tell you guys all one thing.... THIS IS STILL THE BEST SITE TO COME TO FOR HELP.

[MrPatrick]

I'm not "Sarcastic" anymore ;)

[RK]

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