New vantage seat for hobie kayaks

[Raul]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/06/jebaza3y.jpg13063

[momo fish]

Is it me or do a few things look different like handles and drive?

[ctfphoto]

Hey OEX, can a 3 year old Tarpon 120 be modified to fit this seat?

[octico]

Will that fit on a Revo?

[YakDout]

Have you seen the new "bluefin" roller bearing mirage drive?

[YakDout]

That seat is going to be stock on almost every 2015 hobie

[momo fish]

No haven't. That looks like a revo in the picture.

[YakDout]

http://m.kayakfishmag.com/news/vantage-ct/

[momo fish]

Wow. Thanks for sharing !

[Raul]

Its sport but all the hobie models are going to have them

[crazywakeboarder]

Wish they had the venturi scupper drain on my TI, im always sitting in a puddle

[wiredantz]

that is a pretty good mod.

[CKallday71]

Yo OEX when will you have these seats available for the Outback?

[Rambo]

Makes me wanna downgrade next year from the PA14 to an outback since the seat looks a whole lot more comfortable now. Can't wait till they hit the store to test it out. GREAT JOB HOBIE! :you_rock:

[alanw]

Seat looks cool, plus the roller bearing drives and a skeg in the PAs.. The article says they had to change their molds so I doubt this will retrofit into older models.

[janines.fishtales@cox.net]

If it fits the Revo, I may check it out...

J

[bosshoss]

Ok you science guys, whats the deal with a skeg ?

Do tell........

[Carp]

Had to google it myself. Seems to be used for tracking?


info (http://kayak-skills.kayaklakemead.com/skeg.html)Ok you science guys, whats the deal with a skeg ?

Do tell........

[Raskal311]

Does this mean a $300-$500 price hike?

[momo fish]

The price for comfort. I'm hoping it's only 200 bump. If it's 500 that's brings the cost almost close to a PA 12

[bosshoss]

Had to goodly it myself. Seems to be used for tracking?


info (http://kayak-skills.kayaklakemead.com/skeg.html)

Thanks Carp for the info.....Helpful !!

[FlyFishinYakr]

FYI:
I asked ANDY (OEX SSB) last week to confirm the rumors that had been posted here about a Vantage seat on/for the Outback for 2015. He informed me he was headed for a trade show this week. Look for him to post or at least be able to answer all our questions upon his return. :)
I informed him that providing there were no major changes to the hull, if the rumors about the seat were true I wanted one as soon as they come out (and "tricked out" just like my current one)! :D
Can't wait! :toetap05: :toetap05: :toetap05:
FFY

[bosshoss]

FYI:
I asked ANDY (OEX SSB) last week to confirm the rumors that had been posted here about a Vantage seat on/for the Outback for 2015. He informed me he was headed for a trade show this week. Look for him to post or at least be able to answer all our questions upon his return. :)
I informed him that providing there were no major changes to the hull, if the rumors about the seat were true I wanted one as soon as they come out (and "tricked out" just like my current one)! :D
Can't wait! :toetap05: :toetap05: :toetap05:
FFY

X2......:toetap05: :toetap05: :toetap05:

[PAL]

The price for comfort. I'm hoping it's only 200 bump. If it's 500 that's brings the cost almost close to a PA 12

I'm hearing a $300 bump. That seat is outrageously trick, plus there's the new model Mirage Drive.

No backwards compatibility that I'm aware of at this time.

[FlyFishinYakr]

I'm hearing a $300 bump. That seat is outrageously trick, plus there's the new model Mirage Drive.

No backwards compatibility that I'm aware of at this time.

Backwards travel is not a problem, what would I otherwise do with my $400+ Werner paddle? LOL!
FFY

[momo fish]

Very true guys. I'm curious to see what improvements were made on the mirage drive that addresses some of the issues past ones faced like broken mast/arms etc. 300 sounds about right and reasonable.

The real test is going to be how the new hull performs on the water. My biggest issue is launching the outback as it tends to turn to much during launch or landings. Either way excited and glad I waited it out before deciding on a PA.

[Carp]

Backwards travel is not a problem, what would I otherwise do with my $400+ Werner paddle? LOL!
FFY

I think PAL was referring to the new drive not being a drop in replacement for early mirage equipped kayaks?

[YakDout]

New mirage drive

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWZKEbaR68w&feature=youtu.be

[YakDout]

Looks like new mirage drive has retrofit capabilities.

[iethinker]

I have an 2013 Outback now and these improvements together might get me to consider a new one:

1. More scuppers that hold wheel cart and livewell simultaneously.
2. Lowrance Ready
3. Vantage Seat

I'm almost thinking pro-angler but I do a lot of surf launch/landing and am comfortable with the outback's handling there.

[momo fish]

Curious about the scupper holes that self suck water out when peddling at least 3 mph according to videos.

Since most surf launch take on water will drainage be an issue?

[salty pirate]

New mirage drive

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWZKEbaR68w&feature=youtu.be

Noticed it has 2 idle pulleys! Hope that makes the cables last longer

[Carp]

Curious about the scupper holes that self suck water out when peddling at least 3 mph according to videos.

Since most surf launch take on water will drainage be an issue?

I'm assuming that the new Hobies are using a sort of Venturi Effect for some of the scuppers. Assuming that the channels on the underside of the Kayak create a high pressure and then when you open the valves the pressure drops and scavenges the water from the deck area?

http://www.lenntech.com/images/venturi4.gif

[Iceman]

Noticed it has 2 idle pulleys! Hope that makes the cables last longer Not all models will come with that added idler pulley :D

Outback...............answers here.

3 different Vantage model seats, one for the PA 17, 1 for the PA 12 and 14 and 1 for all the rest from Sport to the Revo 16, all these seats are in the same position relative to the water as the original back rest, so you do not sacrifice stability for comfort and only raise it when and where wanted.

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/boats/hobie-outback/#.U-ThJgzg-CM.facebook

[boxturtle]

thanks Andy for the update interesting that they didn't go with the rectangular hatch in the middle for the outback

[Iceman]

I asked, it is still an option for the Outback

[Iceman]

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/skeg.jpg

[FlyFishinYakr]

I have an 2013 Outback now and these improvements together might get me to consider a new one:

1. More scuppers that hold wheel cart and livewell simultaneously.
2. Lowrance Ready
3. Vantage Seat

I'm almost thinking pro-angler but I do a lot of surf launch/landing and am comfortable with the outback's handling there.


I was also thinking to upgrade from my current Outback, just for the scupper transducer (Andy installed a wet mount but not too happy with performance. Water temp important fishing LMB & Stripers). :(
Didn't want to go with a Pro Angler due to the restrictions on Kayak Charters.
I wanted to wait to see if they upgraded the center hatch to a rectangular one like the Pro Angler's. Didn't think they'd be able to upgrade to a better seat until 2016-2017. :confused:
Can't wait to see how the Turbo Fins work with the ball bearings. Looks like I'll have to airbrush my Turbos "Blue". I wonder...does that mean I can rename them "Turbo BlueFins"?
I really like what they've done and I'm 99% sure I'll be ordering one from Andy as soon as they're available :D. (I guess I'll just have to have Andy install a rectangular hatch.)
Can't wait for them to be available. :toetap05: :toetap05: :toetap05:
FFY

[momo fish]

Center hatch can be done afterwards so really your getting everything on your wish list.

My only concern was a new bottom hull as tracking is not great when paddling in and out the surf which is 100% of what I do. Thought maybe they would increase length or something but probably next time around.

Looks like all top of hull changes which is good as well and enough for me to test it out and pick one up as well. The skeg is cool and would had been nice on outback as well. Overall great changes.

[bigbarrels]

so, I'm thinking they will not be available for Revo 13 :ack2: sick of sitting in a puddle

[momo fish]

They will be for all kayaks.
Even a new revo 16 which I think is actually the adventure


so, I'm thinking they will not be available for Revo 13 :ack2: sick of sitting in a puddle

[John59]

They will be for all kayaks.
Even a new revo 16 which I think is actually the adventure

The day Hobie fans have been waiting for is here! Hobie’s uber-adjustable Vantage seat has made the move from the Pro Angler line to the bulk of the fleet. Pretty much all of it: the Outback, both Revolutions, the Sport, the tandems, and possibly more… They all get the new Vantage CT for 2015.

[alanw]

Looking forward to the flurry of used Hobies that will hit the market, cheap.

[Carp]

Looking forward to the flurry of used Hobies that will hit the market, cheap.

Ditto!

[Iceman]

This is going to be awesome!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/oasis1.jpg

[momo fish]

Yup that's a sweet ride!! Stopping by Monday morning at the shop.

[FlyFishinYakr]

Looking forward to the flurry of used Hobies that will hit the market, cheap.

Not mine! I put too much extra into it. ($2800+ total after taxes)
If I removed most of the extras I had installed it would have holes all over the place to fill! Besides it's good to have a backup! :)
I could deal with mine if I 'had' to but I "WANT" all the new stuff! :D
FFY

[steveooo]

Looks like some fun boats coming from Hobie :luxhello:

Revo 16 :drool5: Might be time for an upgrade...

[Iceman]

H Bar fit for the Outback........and an H Crate add the side kick amas and stand up!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/DSC_0402.JPG

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/photo_45_.JPG

[CKallday71]

Are the new Vantage seats going to be available to retrofit on 2013 Outbacks?

[Iceman]

no, they had to change the molds for all models for the deck to accomodate the new seating.

[CKallday71]

DENIED!!! That sucks!!

no, they had to change the molds for all models for the deck to accomodate the new seating.