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I was kayaking in Mission Bay but left around 1 P.M. The young man was last seen around 3 P.M. ...
http://www.cbs8.com/story/26354787/search-for-missing-kayaker-in-mission-bay
lookoutdj
08-23-2014, 06:39 PM
That's very sad... It sounds like he might not have been wearing his PFD.
The news report wasn't very specific. Apparently his kayak capsized and he was left holding his PFD. For some reason he let go of the PFD and went under, never to surface again.
It freaks me out because It seems like such a preventable accident. I used to volunteer at the National VA Summer Sports Clinic, Kayak Venue which was hosted by MB Yacht Club. We had many disabled Veterans of different abilities from quadriplegic to physically fit with traumatic brain injury cases.
We never had any injuries other than an accidental paddle smack during kayak football. After reading about this poor guy, it seems we were really lucky!
Jess
alanw
08-23-2014, 10:11 PM
Yea this sucks. For the sake of your family and friends, wear your PFD always. It's not too hot, it's not uncomfortable, and it doesn't make you less macho.
mclanea
08-24-2014, 06:22 AM
I was kayaking in Mission Bay but left around 1 P.M. The young man was last seen around 3 P.M. ...
http://www.cbs8.com/story/26354787/search-for-missing-kayaker-in-mission-bay
Sadly, seems like this is now a recovery.
https://twitter.com/CBS8/status/503385129117421569
johnnyblaze2009
08-24-2014, 09:42 AM
My sisters friend had her company party at a resort in Mission Bay, the same place I guess this guy took a kayak out. He was from what I understood an exchange student from Ghana or something like that- anyways I heard he was wearing a PFD but it was just the neck collar style and I don't think it was on properly. I guess some kids seen him flip his kayak and paddled towards him and tried offering him their paddle to grab on but by that time he slipped from his pfd and went down. It sucks to hear about situations like this but also how it could be prevented. I heard that same resort let out a kayak with 5 kids on it. Because there was only one person in charge of what's coming in or going out- accountability has to become a priority. And if PFDs are not properly worn, should there be a secondary device if a kayaker/paddle boarder was to fall in. I would think floating life rings or something similar should be on rental equipment just in case.
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Siebler
08-24-2014, 10:19 AM
Daniel and I watched the recovery of the body earlier this morning. Sad reminder of why you need to wear your PFD.
Nic D
08-24-2014, 04:28 PM
Daniel and I watched the recovery of the body earlier this morning. Sad reminder of why you need to wear your PFD.
ya super sad. news just showed the recovery and stated he was not wearing a pfd.
I read he was a 17 year old exchange student from Ghana. He rented a kayak from the Catamaran and was not wearing a PFD. If KUSI TV news is correct, He was 6'9", a basketball player.
So sad.
buddha
08-24-2014, 07:53 PM
What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.
How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?
I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.
janines.fishtales@cox.net
08-24-2014, 07:59 PM
The bottom line of the story is, it's a large body of water and anything can happen. People go out there, unprepared, and beyond their capabilities all the time. Our beaches and bays are an incredible source of recreation, but it is the wilderness and it is not to be underestimated. Please, lets all learn from this young man. Be safe out there!
Janine
johnnyblaze2009
08-24-2014, 09:27 PM
What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.
How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?
I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.
He was a guest of someone's for a company party at that resort. He wasn't issued a kayak, when one came available, one person got off and another got on, the pfd was tucked under the bungee straps but was not the correct size for him. It was for a child. But he chose to take the kayak out anyways and with inexperience in kayaking and swimming paid the ultimate price. My parents and sister were guests as well to that event. They seen the guy getting his face painted that day.
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Hunters Pa
08-25-2014, 07:50 AM
What I fail to understand is that he didn't know how to swim.
How can anyone that doesn't know how to swim operate a kayak without having his PFD on?
I also wonder what kind of instructions he received at Catamaran in regards to safety if any.
You could be Michael Phelps, but get hit & knocked out by a drunk on a jetski or in a boat and you are done.
wiredantz
08-25-2014, 07:57 AM
He was a guest of someone's for a company party at that resort. He wasn't issued a kayak, when one came available, one person got off and another got on, the pfd was tucked under the bungee straps but was not the correct size for him. It was for a child. But he chose to take the kayak out anyways and with inexperience in kayaking and swimming paid the ultimate price. My parents and sister were guests as well to that event. They seen the guy getting his face painted that day.
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My life vest is one thing I never take off, unless im taking off my sweater( or putting one on). I then put it back on immediately. I always make sure my life vest is in Great Condition too.
buddha
08-25-2014, 09:50 AM
You could be Michael Phelps, but get hit & knocked out by a drunk on a jetski or in a boat and you are done.
That could be true of anyone.
What is your point?
He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.
makobob
08-25-2014, 10:04 AM
I would bet that the Catamaran has changed their policy on rentals or improved their training to employees. Too bad they lost a client to learn a lesson they already knew. Always wear a life vest and always buckle up. There ARE no excuses.
momo fish
08-25-2014, 10:13 AM
Read again. He is saying even the best swimmer needs to have a pfd on.
That could be true of anyone.
What is your point?
He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.
Hunters Pa
08-25-2014, 10:23 AM
That could be true of anyone.
What is your point?
He needed to put his pfd on and it was unfortunate that he was not briefed on this as well as someone checking to make sure that he had the right sized pfd and wore it the entire time.
Point is, being a great swimmer will not save you if some jackass runs into you and knocks you out.
I have a wife and two kids that count on me coming home from the few trips I actually get to make. I wear my PFD from when I am launching until I am back on shore
oneyedeer
08-25-2014, 10:28 AM
just remember to do your research not all pfd are made equal.....some pfd are made so that it will automatically right you up if you are unconscious others does not
jorluivil
08-25-2014, 10:40 AM
Why do we turn every thread into a pissing contest?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3wyFzs6-K6w/U4Y4Px6T5CI/AAAAAAAAM-Y/NWq3-hIK-6c/w588-h480-no/headscratchsmile.jpg
buddha
08-25-2014, 02:54 PM
Point is, being a great swimmer will not save you if some jackass runs into you and knocks you out.
I have a wife and two kids that count on me coming home from the few trips I actually get to make. I wear my PFD from when I am launching until I am back on shore
That was exactly my point. He didn't know how to swim and he needed to be briefed on wearing that pfd the entire time.
I agree that everyone needs to wear the pfd at all times for safety.
The rental crew needs to enforce that.
FISH11
08-25-2014, 03:21 PM
The resort and the rental crew it seems are out of this picture, when an individual rents the kayak and then allows a bunch of other people to use it. In the end someone that is inexperienced suffers and you can't blame the resort or rental crew. I blame the person who rented the Kayak and then allowed a bunch of other people to use it. Because you know "It just a toy". The same stupid thinking is what happens everyday in all these places because people think Boat, Jet Skis, etc are just toys. Maybe someone will read about this tragedy and it will save someone next time. Just my $0.02. Personal Responsibility.
GregAndrew
08-25-2014, 03:32 PM
Why do we turn every thread into a pissing contest?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3wyFzs6-K6w/U4Y4Px6T5CI/AAAAAAAAM-Y/NWq3-hIK-6c/w588-h480-no/headscratchsmile.jpg
Because there are 10,000 expert risk managers on here that know exactly how you should run your life. Why do you ask?
jorluivil
08-25-2014, 03:49 PM
Because there are 10,000 expert risk managers on here that know exactly how you should run your life. Why do you ask?
I was bored and that f-en popcorn is getting expensive.:D
buddha
08-25-2014, 04:14 PM
The resort and the rental crew it seems are out of this picture, when an individual rents the kayak and then allows a bunch of other people to use it. In the end someone that is inexperienced suffers and you can't blame the resort or rental crew. I blame the person who rented the Kayak and then allowed a bunch of other people to use it. Because you know "It just a toy". The same stupid thinking is what happens everyday in all these places because people think Boat, Jet Skis, etc are just toys. Maybe someone will read about this tragedy and it will save someone next time. Just my $0.02. Personal Responsibility.
I agree that the rental company is not liable most likely if someone allowed a bunch of other people to use it.
However I believe it should be the responsibility of the rental outfit to make sure that everyone that rents a kayak is briefed on wearing the pfd and make sure that it fits correctly. If the pfd is put on wrong it won't help you in case of an emergency.
johnnyblaze2009
08-25-2014, 05:19 PM
Yeah I don't know how it works at resorts like this hosting a company party. I do think that whoever was in charge of that event should have had enough staff to make sure the safety equipment was made available and worn correctly. Im very sure this could have been prevented but it's too late now. I'm just glad I'm not the one to have to relay the bad news to his family back home. I wouldn't know how.
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