F'n Sabiki!

[T-Rex]

Last few months I've been using just a regular rod instead of my unwieldy 8' sabiki rod. Yesterday I was putting my sabiki away and the 6oz sinker dropped thru a scupper hole impaling my pinky on a hook. It was an akward location and i could't pull it out with a pliers. After a long paddle in and loading the kayak, I ended up using the fishing line method to pop it out. At least it was only a sabiki hook! :o
Now I remember why I got a sabiki stick in the first place!:rolleyes:

http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss123/t-rex-photo/6cc99aa6-2fd8-4b62-bb59-78f5deb46328.jpg?t=1415687519

[Cbad Mike]

:doh:

[taggermike]

That sucks. Those sibiki rods are handy but take up a rod holder all day. I've found cutting the sibiki in half still catches plenty of bait and gets tangled much less. Mike

[f'nsabiki]

There was a post a while back on how you got your screen name. Your pic is exactly how I came up with mine. ouch !!!

[RK]

crimp the barbs.....

[addicted2sp33d]

Ouch!

I am paranoid of my sabiki hooks, enough that I cut the knot and stow the sabiki after I'm done with it.

I'll spend a minute to re-tie it if I need it, but I don't want those hooks (plural) stuck in me. Death by 1000 pinpricks... or maybe about 8-10. :eek:

[PapaDave]

I have done that same thing about 4 times in the last 3 months. It isn't fun to say the least. I'm getting good at threading them through.

:(

[Dannowar]

crimp the barbs.....

Always

[FISH11]

F'nsabiki is a phrase I use quite regular when catching bait. It is always worse when there are several macs at once. While trying to get the macs of the hook it is easy to get another hook on your glove, leash line, bathing suit or finger. Some time earlier this year I kept slicing one of my fingers when I left the sabiki on the spinning rod I use it on, inside my car. Every time I would reach for something in the cargo area and pull my hand back it would always find a hook and the pain of the hook going in would make me instantly yank my hand back and of course that would rip the hook out and leave me a nice cut. Now I always remove the sabiki when transporting that rod in my car.

[alanw]

That's a big hook compared to the ones I use. I don't think it would be too bad pulling out one of the smaller hooks, but I think I'm going to crimp all my barbs from now on anyway :)

[T-Rex]

Definitely going to be crimping the barbs and cutting my sabikis in half going forward. The size 6 sabiki was a lot bigger than I usually use -- I'll be rethinking that going forward too.

[PapaDave]

Good idea on the barbs, thanx

[salty pirate]

Only down fall to crimping is you loose bait from time to time which can be a bummer when bait is scarce. Half and crimped barb sabiki is what I keep on my yak.

Other bonus is when it gets mangled you have the other half ready to go!

[yak-fishing-socal]

What's a good size sabiki I always guess

[TCS]

Cut a six inch piece of pool noodle. Wrap the sabiki around it. Into a ziplock.

[philbro]

Hiya,
I’ve invented a new rig for catching live baits that might have been good to use in your situation.

IMAGINE THIS: A Sabiki rig that is easy to manage, it doesn’t tangle, its hooks and lures can be changed in a snap, you can use it on any rod you like, also it can be used again and again and again.

Well, there isn’t a Sabiki like this, because its called a Blackbow rig. It does all of this and more.

Check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK2C0d6uPBk

Cheers
Phil.

[h2ofishfo]

Sounds like a goood Idea. Considering its carbon fiber though I'm guessing it comes at a price. My sabiki issues don't stem as far as others but how
Much ?

[Harry Hill]

Sounds like a goood Idea. Considering its carbon fiber though I'm guessing it comes at a price. My sabiki issues don't stem as far as others but how
Much ?

Carbon fiber is cheap if you buy it from a hobby store, the beads would be easy to glue on. with super glue. The tricky part would be putting the swivel on the end for tying on and the weight end.The sabiki hooks on swivels would be easy. I'm going to make one today.

[philbro]

Sounds like a goood Idea. Considering its carbon fiber though I'm guessing it comes at a price. My sabiki issues don't stem as far as others but how
Much ?

Hi, Aiming to be NZ$30-$40 for the rig & travel tube the mini-trace packs about the sam as yr usual sabiki rigs.

[MrPukaShell]

You could always tie or wrap a wire loop on the end for the swivel like putting a guide on a fishing pole and finish up with some epoxy to hold everything in place.


Carbon fiber is cheap if you buy it from a hobby store, the beads would be easy to glue on. with super glue. The tricky part would be putting the swivel on the end for tying on and the weight end.The sabiki hooks on swivels would be easy. I'm going to make one today.

[philbro]

Sounds like a goood Idea. Considering its carbon fiber though I'm guessing it comes at a price. My sabiki issues don't stem as far as others but how
Much ?

Yeah go for it. Thats what I did but it was expensive when building with parts from retails stores. I've sourced suppliers that can provide everything at much better prices. I've also had them custom make the 'attachment solution'. And making those mini-trace lures on yr own can be hours of fun. I've have a Sabiki manufacturer lined up to make then for me.

[alanw]

I like this idea, a lot.

[PapaDave]

Hi, Aiming to be NZ$30-$40 for the rig & travel tube the mini-trace packs about the sam as yr usual sabiki rigs.

So roughly $25 to $30 in US currency. Not bad.

Do you have an estimate on when they would become available?

[YakDout]

Looks cool. definitely solves some problems

[Mahigeer]

I did not see how he did a cast, how he reeled in, but I am going to try using a top section of an old rod.

Just for the hell of it.

I still like my Sabiki rod, but I have not used it in a kayak yet.

[King Saba]

I did not see how he did a cast, how he reeled in, but I am going to try using a top section of an old rod.

Just for the hell of it.

I still like my Sabiki rod, but I have not used it in a kayak yet.

Shoot I would think that a coat hanger would work just fine, dumb down the number of hooks to 3-4 just to avoid a clusterf*ck.

[philbro]

So roughly $25 to $30 in US currency. Not bad.

Do you have an estimate on when they would become available?


You’re about right. It’ll be cheaper that a Sabiki rod setup.


I’ll run the Kickstarter when I have 200-300 people signed up. When it starts they'll be notified first so they can get in on a limited earlybird discount reward.

Sign up if yr keen. google search: blackbow co nz

Please tell your mates about it too, I need all the help i can get. More importantly I want to help people like poor T-REX. I hope his finger came good in the end.

[Harry Hill]

Not to cheat the guy, I'm not going to make them to sell but yesterday I bought a piece of carbon fiber tubing three feet long for $3, I already have a big bag of beads and epoxy and swivels. Instead of attaching the top and bottom swivels to the carbon fiber I will pass a heavy leader through the tub and attach swivels at both ends, use 18" of the tube and epoxy beads at four places on the shaft so swivels can be clipped on and not slide up and down the tube. I'll let you guys know how it works. I bought a box of tackle at a yard sale that had about 10 sabikis in it so I will use them to tie the individual hooks to swivels so the are easy to attach. Now I can leave the sabiki rod home and use a regular rod to catch some bait then just store the sabiki stick and get back to fishing.

[Harry Hill]

I have a question for the experts. How often do you hook a big fish on a sabiki? I'm trying to figure out how heavy a leader should I use in the carbon fiber tube. It should be heavy enough to hold a heavy weight if looking for bait in deep water but how heavy. Should I just use a steel leader and crimp a swivel on each end? A piece of 65lb braid would work also. Let me know what you think.

[Hunters Pa]

I have a question for the experts. How often do you hook a big fish on a sabiki? I'm trying to figure out how heavy a leader should I use in the carbon fiber tube. It should be heavy enough to hold a heavy weight if looking for bait in deep water but how heavy. Should I just use a steel leader and crimp a swivel on each end? A piece of 65lb braid would work also. Let me know what you think.

While waiting for the experts I will chime in.

I am intrigued by this as well and I have everything I need to make one. I am thinking that coated steel would be best as the hollow tube will hold saltwater, which will start uncoated steel leader rusting in short order. Braid would work as well but I am concerned about abrasion at each end of the tube. If using braid I would consider having a bead at each end, glued to the tube.

Not often I hook a big fish, nevermind whether or not it is on a sabiki.

Sabiki version 502 soon to be tested.

[octico]

While waiting for the experts I will chime in.

I am intrigued by this as well and I have everything I need to make one. I am thinking that coated steel would be best as the hollow tube will hold saltwater, which will start uncoated steel leader rusting in short order. Braid would work as well but I am concerned about abrasion at each end of the tube. If using braid I would consider having a bead at each end, glued to the tube.

Not often I hook a big fish, nevermind whether or not it is on a sabiki.

Sabiki version 502 soon to be tested.

I was waiting for Sabiki 500 reference

[ful-rac]

I was waiting for Sabiki 500 reference



Sabiki 500

[steveooo]

I think the sabiki idea is intriguing. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Taking a hook every once in a while is just part of the game :D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-24%20at%2012.57.47%20PM_zpsq76dmdur.png

Thankfully, thats not me....

[philbro]

I think the sabiki idea is intriguing. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Taking a hook every once in a while is just part of the game :D

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-24%20at%2012.57.47%20PM_zpsq76dmdur.png

Thankfully, thats not me....

Oh man! And it's a treble!
Painful just looking at it.
Pb.

[Harry Hill]

I got the first two make. The easy part is running 40lb flourocarbon down the tube for the swivels. Putting beads on the tube wasn't bad, I bought a bag of what is called pony beads, about 100 for $3, the carbon fiber tube was about $4, swivels $2 and $5 for the sacrificial sabiki. The hard part is putting the sabikis on the swivels. They are on short leaders and they are snelled onto the leaders so you can't replace the leader. You want them short enough to not get tangled with each other but about 4" long to hold them off the rod. I tied them on this time but I think a crimp will also work. I will let you know how it works when I get out next week.

[Dingokevin]

so how many on the kickstarter?

@harry hill how did they turn out, any picks, you fish it?

[Harry Hill]

so how many on the kickstarter?

@harry hill how did they turn out, any picks, you fish it?

It turned out pretty good I think. I've only had one chance to fish it and I was following a couple of other kayakers so I didn't get a chance to fish it right but i think it will work fine. I'll know better next time I'm out. I'll post a picture tomorrow. I made the mistake of not making a holder for it so I had it hanging in the camper shell, I stuck my arm in to get something and got caught by one of the hooks in my forearm deep. I couldn't remember the method of using a piece of line to get it loose and I couldn't push it through to get it out I finally took my needle nose pliers and ripped it out. That will make your eyes water a bit. It sure went in a lot easier than it came out.

[Dingokevin]

Ouch that sucks. Look forward to seeing how it turn out.

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[FullFlavorPike]

. I couldn't remember the method of using a piece of line to get it loose

What method is this?

[Dingokevin]

http://www.netknots.com/fishing_knots/hook-removal-string-yank

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[Harry Hill]

this is my first attempt at the sabiki stick, the hard part is tying the sabiki hooks to the swivels. The hooks are snelled onto the leader and don't have eyes. The next one I make I will use small gold hooks and some fly material on the hook so I can tie off to the swivel and have enough leader to work with. Sorry the pictures are sideways, not sure how to fix that

[Dingokevin]

Looks good

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[Harry Hill]

I was just messing about while paddling out to the pipe so I hung a jig off the bottom instead of a weight but it wasn't heavy enough and with the resistance of the rod and the light jig it trailed almost straight out behind the kayak. I think it would have worked okay in the bay rigged like that but in open water a heavier weight is needed. I like the carbon fiber rod though, the leader goes right through it and I epoxied the beads on to hold the swivels in place. Hanging straight down the hooks don't get tangled.

[tunaseeker]

I hate that!!!

[philbro]

I got the first two make. The easy part is running 40lb flourocarbon down the tube for the swivels. Putting beads on the tube wasn't bad, I bought a bag of what is called pony beads, about 100 for $3, the carbon fiber tube was about $4, swivels $2 and $5 for the sacrificial sabiki. The hard part is putting the sabikis on the swivels. They are on short leaders and they are snelled onto the leaders so you can't replace the leader. You want them short enough to not get tangled with each other but about 4" long to hold them off the rod. I tied them on this time but I think a crimp will also work. I will let you know how it works when I get out next week.


Nice work. Sounds exactly like my prototype version 1.0. You're so right about putting the sabikis onto the swivels. The dropper lines were too short to allow a good uni knot. Well no, you could tie a knot but then the dropper was way too short, so then I got a sabiki manufacturer to custom make them for me. They are now called mini-traces.

http://blackbow.co.nz/MiniTrace.gif

[philbro]

So roughly $25 to $30 in US currency. Not bad.

Do you have an estimate on when they would become available?


Hi PapaDave,
The Kickstarter Project is running now. If you make a pledge you can get one (or two) as reward.

I don't think we're allowed to post links. It should come up top if you Google:
Blackbow The Easy Sabiki

cheers.