Need help with Dragonfly transducer mounting?

[slobound]

Hi guys, like a lot of you... I'm waiting for the Dragonfly 4 to be released. Been searching on line to figure out how I want to mount to my Prowler 13. Since the 'ducer is almost 9" long, I don't think it will fit cleanly in the molded scupper mount area.

Other than the ram arm/pvc over the side mount, anyone have any other good ideas on how to mount this thing? Thanks in advance!

[619-SWIM-DOG]

I have the dragonfly 7 for my outback. I went to the .99 cent shop and found some Tupperware that fit it. I then glued it to the inside just under my seat. I pore fresh water in it and set the transducer inside. Simple and easy.

[cell128]

I have the dragonfly 7 for my outback. I went to the .99 cent shop and found some Tupperware that fit it. I then glued it to the inside just under my seat. I pore fresh water in it and set the transducer inside. Simple and easy.
Do you still get a clear picture in the downscan mode? I read somewhere that it has to be in the water to get a good chirp reading. I made a PVC arm.and mounted it to a Scotty flush mount. Very sturdy and really don't notice any drag. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/22/e4bc2988a6d6bbafccd0c4c12f725974.jpg

[619-SWIM-DOG]

I have had no issues. It does sit in water just a bit of plastic in the way. It's way easier to set up and have on the yak.

[cell128]

Cool ima try it out next time. On the plastic container do you also cut out the bottom so there will be no air gap between it and the hull? I've never done wet mount.

[619-SWIM-DOG]

Yup I had to take a razor blade and trim out the bottom so it mounted flush to the yak.

[Jkfish136]

I have the same set up with the Tupperware but I mount the transducer on the lid so o can close the Tupperware so water doesn't splash out.

[ful-rac]

It seems like we are going back in time...wet mounts, transducer arms, tupperware....:eek:

[619-SWIM-DOG]

It seems like we are going back in time...wet mounts, transducer arms, tupperware....:eek:

Have to work with what you got, Not all of us have a PA with the T mount set in the body.:p

[Silbaugh4liberty]

I hope mine fits in the Lowrance ready scupper. It'll just have to be fit fairly flush so it doesn't catch on anything. I'm just gonna take it to Andy and let the expert figure it out.

[Oxbeast1210]

My dragonfly 7 fit in the lowrance ready just had to cut off the part the holds the lowrance transducer.

[alanw]

I've got one mounted to an X-Factor and it's not flush with the bottom of the yak. It's ok if the transducer hangs down a little bit, just make a little fairing or something for it so it won't catch any kelp along the way. I've paddled through miles of kelp and never had anything catch on the transducer. Much better than a through-hull mount for sure.

[radastaff]

I have mine on the ram mount over the side
gives a good reading
cept recently
it has been loosing bottom
bouncing off bait or kelp

this in auto mode

works ok if I define settings regarding depths

might have to bring it back to west marine

its the dragonfly 6

when I first got it
I tried to make a close cell foam donut and glued it to the inside bottom of my yak
leaked after two trys
might have been bad foam
should have tried the Tupperware method

its what we fish on
nothing wrong with going back in time
some things were better



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[alanw]

I have mine on the ram mount over the side
gives a good reading
cept recently
it has been loosing bottom
bouncing off bait or kelp

this in auto mode

works ok if I define settings regarding depths

might have to bring it back to west marine

its the dragonfly 6



Mine does this every now and then too, thick bait or kelp will show as a false bottom sometimes on auto mode. I don't think it's an issue WM can fix with a new unit.

[slobound]

All good info and reviews. I may have to play around with the 'ducer to see if I can possibly make it work in the scupper mount with a little finagling.

[FISH11]

I have used the Dragonfly 4.7 on a self contained assembly with over the side ram transducer mount. It has had the same problems when used on auto as well as once in a while catching some floating kelp. The thing is I have used it at the same time as the Lowrance Elite 4 that I have with a transducer mounted at the bottom of a rear scupper hole. What I found is that the Lowrance was more consistent in the readings and has better manual adjustment. I just bought the Lowrance Elite 5 HDS and got it mounted. The transducer is a bit larger and sticks out a little more but not a problem unless I went bottoming out on rocks or boulders (not something I plan on doing). Can't wait for this rain and wind to stop so I can go to L J and try it out. Hopefully tomorrow Tuesday, this unit has a crazy amount of even more setting adjustments and display options.

[Iceman]

Just mounted a Dragonfly trans on an X Factor, used an extra Lowrance bracket I had. Now they changed the base on the 4, too big and it does not fit on the basic RAM round base..............anyone know if RAM has come out with a mount yet, nothing but the original Dragonfly on their site???

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/dragonfly.jpg

[slobound]

^^^that looks pretty clean if you ask me!

[Silbaugh4liberty]

The head unit doesn't fit on the ram ball? Thanks for the heads up Andy.

Think I might call them tomorrow and see what I can find out.

Glad to know the transducer fits.

Looks like Joe's kayak!!

[radastaff]

Mine does this every now and then too, thick bait or kelp will show as a false bottom sometimes on auto mode. I don't think it's an issue WM can fix with a new unit.

it got to the point where anything would cause it to loose bottom
when in auto

making auto pretty much useless unless its a desert under me
pretty sure that's not how auto should work

when I define a bottom in settings
its ok and works normal

when I first got it
auto worked correctly
and after a few trips started to get worse

....

I hated the stock base and ram mount setup
so fabricated an alum backplate with spacer standoffs
and mounted a stock ram to that
works great

[Iceman]

Looks like it lines up on the old Eagle/Pirahana mount, hangs over a bit, but works!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_1758.JPG

[LBKayakDude]

Looks like Joe's kayak!

Thought I recognized that!! Lol thanks Andy looks like u did an amazing job. Much appreciated. Cant wait :) and on my bday too! Best present I got :)

[Iceman]

Wow, never even realized that the swivel ball on the stock base mount was the same 1" RAM ball, just mounts to the head unit :confused: don't even need the stock base.............DOH!!!

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Wow, never even realized that the swivel ball on the stock base mount was the same 1" RAM ball, just mounts to the head unit :confused: don't even need the stock base.............DOH!!!
Nice! I was about to try that and see as well. That's awesome news!

[Iceman]

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_1759.JPG

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_1760.JPG

[LBKayakDude]

Andy you are the man!!!! Thank you sooo much. It's beautiful. I'm so excited to finally attempt to step up my game :) 👍👍 thanks bro

[alanw]

Just mounted a Dragonfly trans on an X Factor, used an extra Lowrance bracket I had. Now they changed the base on the 4, too big and it does not fit on the basic RAM round base..............anyone know if RAM has come out with a mount yet, nothing but the original Dragonfly on their site???

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/dragonfly.jpg

Hey Andy I mounted mine the same way last year using a custom PVC mount I made but would like to replace it with a spare metal Lowrance bracket if you have one laying around?

Looks like they changed the location that the wire enters the transducer as well, that's better than the old location.

[radastaff]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/radastaff/IMG_1421_zpsy0poresb.jpg

I like how they integrated the ball into the design of the 4
the orig base mine comes with is fugly and cheesy

[Iceman]

Alan, I have an extra, come and get it.

[cell128]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m107/radastaff/IMG_1421_zpsy0poresb.jpg

I like how they integrated the ball into the design of the 4
the orig base mine comes with is fugly and cheesy
That's pretty sweet...did u make it or had it made? I'd pay for thta machined piece to get rid of my fugly looking mount on my dragon 6

[radastaff]

made it
pretty simple

chunk of sheet alum
hole saw
jig saw
belt sander
cordless drill

trip to OSH for staineless screws, nuts and Teflon washers and spacers


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[alanw]

Thanks for the spare bracket Andy, replaced my homemade PVC one on the X-Factor.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8733/16950590812_8590d63542_z.jpg


Using a "fairing" to prevent any kelp from snagging the transducer

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[slobound]

Looks awesome with the fairing, Alan!

[Silbaugh4liberty]

I dig it Alan. You got me thinking of doing the same. Here's mine. I also used my old Lowrance bracket.150961509715098

[alanw]

Looks good dude. I like the new transducer, it appears to be a little lower profile than last years model.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Looks good dude. I like the new transducer, it appears to be a little lower profile than last years model.
Thanks Alan. Mine is the dragonfly 4, just like Joe's you see on the red x factor. I'm not sure if the newer 6&7 are the same or not.

[alanw]

Thanks Alan. Mine is the dragonfly 4, just like Joe's you see on the red x factor. I'm not sure if the newer 6&7 are the same or not.

Oh yea, maybe the new 4 is smaller? I have the 6.

By the way, nice choice of yak colors!

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Oh yea, maybe the new 4 is smaller? I have the 6.

By the way, nice choice of yak colors!
Lol, thanks! You'd think I'd be sick of desert camo by now!!;)

[Iceman]

Setting up a new 5 Pro on an Outback...........found this solution. Transducer part anyway, gonna skip the wire nuts etc See how it goes.

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