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sdmosch
03-15-2015, 05:12 PM
Since the fishing has been slow for me, I have decided to train dogs to help me fill up the freezer.... Anyway, fishing was slow. I did see a couple fish caught today and a really nice WSB.
jruiz
03-15-2015, 05:24 PM
I'll just say it nicely. Please don't feed them. Others may not be so nice
LBKayakDude
03-15-2015, 05:35 PM
Yea wtf. They don't need any more encouragement to steal our bait, or jump on our yaks 😠
ful-rac
03-15-2015, 05:50 PM
Is it too early for popcorn...? or should we see where this one goes first? Cute seal! Did you give'm a hug as well?
makobob
03-15-2015, 05:51 PM
Looks like he is training them to beg from PA's should be alright for the rest of us.
captnblood34
03-15-2015, 06:04 PM
Looks like he is training them to beg from PA's should be alright for the rest of us.
HA
Silbaugh4liberty
03-15-2015, 06:50 PM
Looks like he is training them to beg from PA's should be alright for the rest of us.
Lol, good thinking.
If you're on an X Factor, you better be swinging at those little bastards, lol.
bubblehide
03-15-2015, 06:52 PM
Wow, I can see the paddle indentation on her head, good shot. I hope you didn't land with that bludgeoned pup still on your kayak.
rossman
03-15-2015, 06:52 PM
That is just wrong.
Had a big bull sea lion wash up on my beach this morning. Dead. I miss a great money shot when my dog went over and lifted his leg on him and then kick sand on him. Hopefully he'll do it again tomorrow when I have my camera with me.
LBKayakDude
03-15-2015, 06:54 PM
That is just wrong.
Had a big bull sea lion wash up on my beach this morning. Dead. I miss a great money shot when my dog went over and lifted his leg on him and then kick sand on him. Hopefully he'll do it again tomorrow when I have my camera with me.
Now that's behavior that SHOULD be encouraged 😁 😊
makobob
03-15-2015, 06:55 PM
That is just wrong.
Had a big bull sea lion wash up on my beach this morning. Dead. I miss a great money shot when my dog went over and lifted his leg on him and then kick sand on him. Hopefully he'll do it again tomorrow when I have my camera with me.
Hope you DON"T eats what you kills!!! How about we bring a big turkey down for you on our Asuncion 3 trip? You up for that?
rossman
03-15-2015, 07:03 PM
That would be great Roberto. For some reason all I can get at the markets are chicken wings and drumsticks. Don't know what they do with the rest of the bird.
Dane101
03-15-2015, 08:05 PM
Wait when he's 350-500 lbs and wants to jump up on your yak.You'll be regretting the day you trained him to think yakkers = free meals:doh:
Cadillyak
03-15-2015, 08:13 PM
Humm. This should be an interesting post. Hope than Mac been infused with the plague.
YakDout
03-15-2015, 08:18 PM
Or some ghost peppers... Been thinking of trying that one myself. But not sure if it would work in their fat ass stomachs.
Pinhead
03-15-2015, 08:49 PM
:eek:................oh man!!!!! It's a pickin' YT Thief!
Don't feed them. Instead, YELL - BAD DAWG!!!!!!! box his ears 'er wack him on the nose with a news paper and send him yelping.
makobob
03-15-2015, 08:56 PM
Or some ghost peppers... Been thinking of trying that one myself. But not sure if it would work in their fat ass stomachs.
They might not bothering him going in but you can bet he will know when they come out, and I don't think you want to be down wind.
Irishman
03-15-2015, 08:58 PM
Not a good idea to encourage, swift whack to the head to encourage junior to go on his way
wiredantz
03-16-2015, 06:40 AM
i was wondering who was training these roaches
LBKayakDude
03-16-2015, 07:34 AM
Is it true you're allowed to shoot them with flathead pellets? Captain on a party boat had quite a rifle one time but never used it.
ful-rac
03-16-2015, 07:55 AM
Is it true you're allowed to shoot them with flathead pellets? Captain on a party boat had quite a rifle one time but never used it.
Not positive but I don't think it's legal to shoot them with a BB gun. I know a paintball gun is ok though.
cell128
03-16-2015, 08:05 AM
We went out on a full day 2 weeks ago....not gonna throw the captain under the bus....but he did a great Job keeping them away with his pellet gun
octico
03-16-2015, 08:10 AM
Dude you cannot be serious ... really? SMH
sdmosch
03-16-2015, 08:51 AM
:D
cell128
03-16-2015, 08:56 AM
That's why I won't say what boat it was 😊 gonna go on it again soon. Had caught a ton of fish really cheap http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/16/525c6008c56353c36cd4057ccf8cce51.jpg
easyday
03-16-2015, 08:58 AM
Or some ghost peppers... Been thinking of trying that one myself. But not sure if it would work in their fat ass stomachs.
I fill macks with super hot, hot sauce then put them in my line when the sea lions r being bothersome, they do not like hot stuff.
rogersmith
03-16-2015, 08:59 AM
wow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion
YakDout
03-16-2015, 09:00 AM
I fill macks with super hot, hot sauce then put them in my line when the sea lions r being bothersome, they do not like hot stuff.
Thank you for info! Gonna give it a shot
broncobilly
03-16-2015, 09:04 AM
While you're training you're secret weapon, I'm training mine.
h2ofishfo
03-16-2015, 09:20 AM
No rebuttle ? Classic I can hear the classic donkey heeeeeee haaaaaw now. Mother Nature is trying to keep population control with these thing washing up on shore malnourished. But what do we do save all them so they can go out and repopulate other weak and hungry brood
619-SWIM-DOG
03-16-2015, 09:41 AM
Really Bro......
PapaDave
03-16-2015, 09:47 AM
Having had one of those in an adult model steal a 30" halibut off a game clip yesterday, I'm not a real fan of them right now.
chris138
03-16-2015, 09:56 AM
Since the fishing has been slow for me, I have decided to train dogs to help me fill up the freezer.... Anyway, fishing was slow. I did see a couple fish caught today and a really nice WSB.
Nevermind feeding the dogs, why are you posting about another guys cbass?!?!
You crossed the line bro... you went so far past the line that you cant even see the line anymore! The line is a dot to you!
Billy V
03-16-2015, 10:50 AM
Don't feed the Dogs.
Aren't they enough of a problem ??? ((((Sheesh
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- Bad Idea.
Bert Vega
03-16-2015, 11:06 AM
Nevermind feeding the dogs, why are you posting about another guys cbass?!?!
You crossed the line bro... you went so far past the line that you cant even see the line anymore! The line is a dot to you!
:eek:
wiredantz
03-16-2015, 12:12 PM
so now there are two witnesses to a single white sea bass... getting closer and closer to when the white sea bass come in fully loaded
Silbaugh4liberty
03-16-2015, 12:15 PM
Is it true you're allowed to shoot them with flathead pellets? Captain on a party boat had quite a rifle one time but never used it.
Back in November, the Captain we had was shooting a bb gun at them. He said it was legal. I didn't care either way.
StinkyMatt
03-16-2015, 12:55 PM
Frank,
By the time YOU hear about WSB being caught......theyhave been caught for three weeks.
:D
All reports of WSB are purely fictional at this time of the year....
We all know that they absolutely need water in the 80 degree to come to our waters.
Quitfeeding the dogs....you are asking for trouble.
wiredantz
03-16-2015, 01:31 PM
Matt, do you have a seal problem in Antarctica?
:Angel_anim:
http://www.harrietcarter.com/resources/harrietCarter/images/products/processed/2917.detail.a.jpg
bigbarrels
03-16-2015, 01:40 PM
I have a Revo for sale if any of you PA owners want to make the switch:)
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=24720
Pinhead
03-16-2015, 01:40 PM
The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) protects all marine mammals, including cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises), pinnipeds (seals and sea lions), sirenians (manatees and dugongs), sea otters, and polar bears within the waters of the United States.
The Act makes it illegal to "take" marine mammals without a permit. This means people may not harass, feed, hunt, capture, collect, or kill any marine mammal or part of a marine mammal.
http://www.marinemammalcenter.org/assets/images/rehabilitation/mike-in-pool-200px.jpg
....sew pretty sure wackin' a seal with a BB Gun is O.U.T of bounds.
Just sayin'.....
wiredantz
03-16-2015, 01:47 PM
The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) protects all marine mammals, including cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises), pinnipeds (seals and sea lions), sirenians (manatees and dugongs), sea otters, and polar bears within the waters of the United States.
The Act makes it illegal to "take" marine mammals without a permit. This means people may not harass, feed, hunt, capture, collect, or kill any marine mammal or part of a marine mammal.
http://www.marinemammalcenter.org/assets/images/rehabilitation/mike-in-pool-200px.jpg
....sew pretty sure wackin' a seal with a BB Gun is O.U.T of bounds.
Just sayin'.....
a seal getting on your kayak (to harass you or steal your fish) is out of bounds too, just sayin
corpsmanusn2001
03-16-2015, 02:35 PM
All you have to say is, "I was afraid for my life. I had to protect myself." Then again, in this state, that might not fly...
YakDout
03-16-2015, 02:55 PM
The Act makes it illegal to "take" marine mammals without a permit. This means people may not harass, FEED hunt, capture, collect, or kill any marine mammal or part of a marine mammal.
....sew pretty sure wackin' a seal with a BB Gun is O.U.T of bounds.
Just sayin'.....
So since we cannot feed them, I will go to any means so that my bait is not stolen off my hook and they won't get fed. I personally will make sure that I don't feed the seals 100% 😉
YakDout
03-16-2015, 02:56 PM
Just sayin'
Silbaugh4liberty
03-16-2015, 03:33 PM
All you have to say is, "I was afraid for my life. I had to protect myself." Then again, in this state, that might not fly...
I swear officer, I couldn't find my bubba blade, so I just brought my machete instead, and as I was fileted this mackerel, I was attacked. My instincts were to swing at it, but I didn't mean to decapitate him, I swear. It was all in self defense. .........
Just sayin
corpsmanusn2001
03-16-2015, 03:39 PM
Lol. Right!!?
The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) protects all marine mammals, including cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises), pinnipeds (seals and sea lions), sirenians (manatees and dugongs), sea otters, and polar bears within the waters of the United States.
The Act makes it illegal to "take" marine mammals without a permit. This means people may not harass, feed, hunt, capture, collect, or kill any marine mammal or part of a marine mammal.
http://www.marinemammalcenter.org/assets/images/rehabilitation/mike-in-pool-200px.jpg
....sew pretty sure wackin' a seal with a BB Gun is O.U.T of bounds.
Just sayin'.....
Id take the .30 for polar bears, myself.
YakDout
03-16-2015, 03:58 PM
@pinhead
I hope this helps. This came from the U.S. Department of commerce. Any form of non lethal deterrence is ok by the government. Paintball guns, BB's guns WIDE OPEN, airsoft guns? YOU GOT IT! Non lethal is ok by them. So tony I hope this answers your question to BB guns as they are a non lethal form of deterrence.
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YakDout
03-16-2015, 03:59 PM
Oh and fully auto is not recommended but also not illegal so hope that helps 😁
GregAndrew
03-16-2015, 04:20 PM
Now correct me if I am wrong, but I did not see where the OP said that he fed the Sea Lion. For all you critics know, that Sea Lion could have brought that Mack with him and is just tired of getting salt water all over his food. Don't get me wrong, soup can be good, but not every meal!
On a serious note, read my lips, not every Sea Lion is going to grow up to be a 300# Knothead that can only catch hooked bait. I have plenty of video of them passing on my bait. I even have video of a couple different groups of them communicating as one approached my bait, only to have it veer off.
Sea Lions, like Sharks, are part of the price of doing business. How much of a price, can be entirely up to you. If you leave your bait in the water as they swim up, they are likely to hang around a while. If you pull it in, they will search your area and be gone in about 5 minutes. If you fish in groups, you are more likely to have them visit, and it will take longer to get them to leave. If you toss your dead bait out when they are around, you encourage them to seek out kayaks. Seagulls are happy to get rid of your discards, and the next one will be by in 5 minutes or so.
Pinhead
03-16-2015, 05:12 PM
@YackDout - Awesome find!
So I wonder *who-trumps-who* in court, The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) or U.S. Department of commerce ?
Who cares....I say carry a sharp stick, big knife, fishbat er' whatever and protect yourself, your YT and your Yak.
Haze the seals with a FOX40 Whistle....AMAZINGLY LOUD. Blast that dude in the face...hahhahah
YakDout
03-16-2015, 05:28 PM
Now you're speaking my language.
Silbaugh4liberty
03-16-2015, 05:35 PM
Hurk's Harpoon Gun is Hilarious - Far Cry 4 Montage: https://youtu.be/6_ZNZBXXrCU
ful-rac
03-16-2015, 06:21 PM
I see starter pistols, water soluble paintball guns, non lethal ammunition, rubber bullets, sabot rounds, game stingers...what ever that is....
I think Interpreting that as BB guns are ok to use to deter a seal is a bit of a stretch....but I hope your right...
corpsmanusn2001
03-16-2015, 06:27 PM
I see starter pistols, water soluble paintball guns, non lethal ammunition, rubber bullets, sabot rounds, game stingers...what ever that is....
I think Interpreting that as BB guns are ok to use to deter a seal is a bit of a stretch....but I hope your right...
I agree. BBs and pellets might get you into trouble.
Dane101
03-16-2015, 06:45 PM
I fill macks with super hot, hot sauce then put them in my line when the sea lions r being bothersome, they do not like hot stuff.
How about Habenero sauce green ??????:luxhello:
voodoo
03-16-2015, 07:11 PM
@YackDout - Awesome find!
So I wonder *who-trumps-who* in court, The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) or U.S. Department of commerce ?
Who cares....I say carry a sharp stick, big knife, fishbat er' whatever and protect yourself, your YT and your Yak.
Haze the seals with a FOX40 Whistle....AMAZINGLY LOUD. Blast that dude in the face...hahhahah
In CA ?? The seals win hands down. All animals win. Also in CA anything that looks like a firearm should probably be left at home unless you possess a ccw , then having the cap gun/starter pistol out and somebody seeing it is another story. Better stick to seasoning the bait and or "paddling with intensity". Its been a while since I've been out at LJ but reading about the increase in numbers I can see the concern.
Cadillyak
03-16-2015, 08:36 PM
I fill macks with super hot, hot sauce then put them in my line when the sea lions r being bothersome, they do not like hot stuff.
I wasn't gonna give away your secret, but since you insist.
driftwood
03-16-2015, 09:24 PM
@YackDout - Awesome find!
So I wonder *who-trumps-who* in court, The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) or U.S. Department of commerce ?
Who cares....I say carry a sharp stick, big knife, fishbat er' whatever and protect yourself, your YT and your Yak.
Haze the seals with a FOX40 Whistle....AMAZINGLY LOUD. Blast that dude in the face...hahhahah
PINHEAD, you do know that hurting/shooting a seal even with a BB gun is a felony.
Sea Lion Shooter - YouTube (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DsF5 PFJdpDzo&ei=trkHVY2LDNHnsASFzYCIAQ&usg=AFQjCNG2ztmV5ePDVQ-lYo82ErLRJJ-kwg&bvm=bv.88198703,d.cWc)
Cbad Mike
03-16-2015, 09:41 PM
Sea World rescues and then rehabilitates the pups and then sets them free.
You feed and train them and then Sea World catches them and puts them in their shows.
:D
My personal opinion is that no one should ever intentionally hurt any animal unless they plan to eat it or it is planning on eating them. SIMPLE!!!
Pinhead
03-17-2015, 07:12 AM
@Driftwood.
Sure do. You need to read my post from Yesterday, 02:40 PM in this very thread......here it is;
Originally Posted by Pinhead http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?p=221997#post221997)
The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) protects all marine mammals, including cetaceans (whales, dolphins, and porpoises), pinnipeds (seals and sea lions), sirenians (manatees and dugongs), sea otters, and polar bears within the waters of the United States.
The Act makes it illegal to "take" marine mammals without a permit. This means people may not harass, feed, hunt, capture, collect, or kill any marine mammal or part of a marine mammal.
http://www.marinemammalcenter.org/assets/images/rehabilitation/mike-in-pool-200px.jpg
....sew pretty sure wackin' a seal with a BB Gun is O.U.T of bounds.
Just sayin'.....
All I am advocating is protecting yourself from a seal however you can, if they get sideways on you.
StinkyMatt
03-17-2015, 02:33 PM
Sea World rescues and then rehabilitates the pups and then sets them free.
You feed and train them and then Sea World catches them and puts them in their shows.
:D
My personal opinion is that no one should ever intentionally hurt any animal unless they plan to eat it or it is planning on eating them. SIMPLE!!!
Mike.......you talk simple....me like.......
The whole thing with putting hot sauce in a bait and feeding it to seals........
Likelihood of it doing anything is very minimal...except to cause discomfort to an animal. There is no chance that a sea lion will connect the discomfort of hot sauce with a bait fish it ate hours earier. How is the sea lion supposed to know that one of the dozens of macs he ate today causes painful poop?
Quit hurting innocent animals to get your kicks.
But...but...he took my Mac........ohhhh...cry me a river.....
corpsmanusn2001
03-17-2015, 03:28 PM
Mike.......you talk simple....me like.......
The whole thing with putting hot sauce in a bait and feeding it to seals........
Likelihood of it doing anything is very minimal...except to cause discomfort to an animal. There is no chance that a sea lion will connect the discomfort of hot sauce with a bait fish it ate hours earier. How is the sea lion supposed to know that one of the dozens of macs he ate today causes painful poop?
Quit hurting innocent animals to get your kicks.
But...but...he took my Mac........ohhhh...cry me a river.....
Haha.
Seal pup: Mom it hurts when I poop.
Seal mom: Did you eat those spicy macks again? You never listen
alanw
03-17-2015, 06:06 PM
Yea don't feed them buggers. First they are cute and you give them a little taste, then they get bolder and are in your face, then one day after they got you pegged for a free meal they slam you for $3000 for a plastic tub and another $300 for a water bucket. :D
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