Any Green Backs - Bait Ideas

[bmoore1975]

Any secrets to help the odds of catching green backs.....seems all I can get is Spanish right now. Thinking of putting away the sabiki and trying a little squid or worms. Any tricks ? No j don't have a fish finder.... Just winging it ✌️


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[ctfphoto]

You are thinking right, but add anchovies or sardines as they are oily and smelly.

They will attract the greenbacks.

[taggermike]

Macks are like any other fish, they don't always want to bite. If you're fairly sure they're around putting a bit of bait on the sibiki can help. If you're searching and covering water trolling a small spoon can let you know when you find them. When I fish on a buddy's skiff we chumm cat food some times. Never tried that from the yak. If youre catching Spanish go ahead and keep some and replace them with greens if you find em. Cause then if you don't find greens you still have bait. Greens maybe better but Spanish are still good baits. I've caught yt in LA Jolla on smelt when that us all I could catch. Mike.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

I remember Jaime getting a jumbo mackerel that got hooked trying to eat a Tady 45 he was trolling. An hour later, some dude on his brand new Kraken said he got his first yt on a jumbo 2lb mac! Maybe we should start just trolling surface irons to make bait! Lol
Probably not very efficient, but it's a thought

[5-20]

If I've been catching nothing but spanish macks I usually move. For some reason I usually catch spanish deeper and greenies closer to the top of the water column. Retrieve matters too. Sometimes they want the sabiki jigged up and down and sometimes they want it reeled in.

[Daiwadude]

My buddy used spoons out there at LJ , caught a few big macks ..when using the sabiki rig, drop all the way to the bottom and work your way up a few cranks intil u find them. Very easy and use size 6-8 hooks

[FISH11]

You can spend extra time trying for only green back, but why. When only spanish are biting just fill up with those. I have hooked provably as many yellows on spanish as on green backs although I also would rather use green backs. To me it's more about getting enough macs to stay ahead of the thieving sea lions.

[Gunner58]

The guy on the kraken is my buddy and he was using a huge mac so I can vouch that the story is correct. Those yellows don't care how big or small the bait is. I got hit on a bonito when that was all I could make. But they are right keep the Spanish and fish em they work.

[bmoore1975]

Good stuff. Really appreciate the feedback..... 👍👏


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[HobieScot]

When a Sabiki doesn't work a small spoon or krokodile usually will. The cat food works great to pull them in. So does a bag of bonito flake or dried shrimp that you can usually find at Asian markets. They pack up small so they don't take up any room at all and you can keep them on the yak since they don't go bad.

[King Saba]

I haven't done much mac fishing from my kayak, but a mac is a mac and I've found that a small knife jig sometimes gets them going. 3/4-1oz. Flashier the better from what I've found.

Also, try adding this small bait cage to the bottom of your sabikis with some kind of smelly bait.

[supaboy1981]

Today I had luck with a glow in the dark green 8 sabiki and a blue and black spinner bait on the bottom. Caught a nice green back and couldn't keep bonito off of it.

[Murray]

seems like greenies have a lot more action than spanish. that said, make lots of spanish and change baits often if you can not make greenies.

[Reel Anxious]

Any secrets to help the odds of catching green backs.....seems all I can get is Spanish right now. Thinking of putting away the sabiki and trying a little squid or worms. Any tricks ? No j don't have a fish finder.... Just winging it ✌️
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays-Tea-Ball/16565411
Like Sabas idea. Cheap and stainless.
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And drill a few 1/4" holes for better flow. I'm going to try this tomorrow.

[Reel Anxious]

[QUOTE=King Saba;235064]I haven't done much mac fishing from my kayak, but a mac is a mac and I've found that a small knife jig sometimes gets them going. 3/4-1oz. Flashier the better from what I've found.

Also, try adding this small bait cage to the bottom of your sabikis with some ki
nd of smelly bait.[/QUO
Did you find this locally? I found it online. THX

[King Saba]

[QUOTE=King Saba;235064]I haven't done much mac fishing from my kayak, but a mac is a mac and I've found that a small knife jig sometimes gets them going. 3/4-1oz. Flashier the better from what I've found.

Also, try adding this small bait cage to the bottom of your sabikis with some ki
nd of smelly bait.[/QUO
Did you find this locally? I found it online. THX

Online unfortunately? You can probably get it locally if you shop around some mom and pop Asian tackle shops.

http://youtu.be/B1sJNrcLtY4
The bait cage in action.

http://youtu.be/DZegkQPKbUw
I overlooked your post at first Reel Anxious. Yeah these are cheaper alternatives and work well in their own way. I've seen these for cheap at Asian markets maybe less than a buck each.

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

And don't get too locked in on just Green backs. On my last trip I caught Yellows on Jack mackerel (aka Spanish) , Green back and a 12 inch Bonita.

[Reel Anxious]

[QUOTE=Reel Anxious;235081]

Online unfortunately? You can probably get it locally if you shop around some mom and pop Asian tackle shops.

http://youtu.be/B1sJNrcLtY4
The bait cage in action.

http://youtu.be/DZegkQPKbUw
I overlooked your post at first Reel Anxious. Yeah these are cheaper alternatives and work well in their own way. I've seen these for cheap at Asian markets maybe less than a buck each.
Just saw them and they are quite small. Will try something.

[Mr. NiceGuy]

RE: small bait cage for the bottom of a sabiki ...

Should be easy enough to improvise. What would work?

A tea ball? ... a 1C tupperware punched full of holes?
a small size plastic water bottle punched full of holes?


thinking ...

I think the water bottle idea has possibilities.

What about a can of cat food punched full of holes with an old fashioned punch-type can opener? clip your line to the finger-puller on the lid.

[ctfphoto]

Also, try adding this small bait cage to the bottom of your sabikis with some kind of smelly bait.

Wow what a great idea, I will be testing something similar.

[King Saba]

RE: small bait cage for the bottom of a sabiki ...

Should be easy enough to improvise. What would work?

A tea ball? ... a 1C tupperware punched full of holes?
a small size plastic water bottle punched full of holes?


thinking ...

I think the water bottle idea has possibilities.

What about a can of cat food punched full of holes with an old fashioned punch-type can opener? clip your line to the finger-puller on the lid.

The bottle is not a bad idea either. Maybe a short piece of drilled PVC, cap both ends off and add some screw eyes?

Wow what a great idea, I will be testing something similar.

Please share! I'd like to see what you come up with.

[GunRunner]

I remember Jaime getting a jumbo mackerel that got hooked trying to eat a Tady 45 he was trolling. An hour later, some dude on his brand new Kraken said he got his first yt on a jumbo 2lb mac! Maybe we should start just trolling surface irons to make bait! Lol
Probably not very efficient, but it's a thought
I hate using sabiki. I usally never have a problem catching Green Macks. I just troll a large spoon out side the kelp. Yesterday it was like there was no GMacks in LJ. I caught two barracudas right off the bat. Only able to make 2. And the nice thing about trolling a spoon is the YT even hit them occasionally. Hooked up with one as I was paddling in, but no joy unfortunately.

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[Silbaugh4liberty]

I hate using sabiki. I usally never have a problem catching Green Macks. I just troll a large spoon out side the kelp. Yesterday it was like there was no GMacks in LJ. I caught two barracudas right off the bat. Only able to make 2. And the nice thing about trolling a spoon is the YT even hit them occasionally. Hooked up with one as I was paddling in, but no joy unfortunately.

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Ever troll a lucky craft? Think I'll either troll a lucky craft or crocodile next time out and ditch the sibiki too. ;)

[GunRunner]

I use an all silver Krocodile.http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/26/3a9722694538c488d3d22b1c3f8665ab.jpg

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[Goose1993]

I've had luck with sardines and greenies about 10 feet down near kelp. I jig up and down. I used to jerk the sabiki fast, but I would always have visitors and the fish didn't hit that well. Now I jig really smoothly, without rapid jerking motions and I have much better success.


What I've also noticed is that baitfish tend to treat big hammer swimbaits as gods, especially if it is a bright color. They follow the thing and pretty much worship it. Maybe try working a swimbait about 5 to 10 feet down, then throw a net onto the 20 fish that surround the lure. I've never done this and don't know the legality of fishing baitfish with nets as recreational anglers, but it may be a way to grab the finicky greens. My dad has fished florida a bunch and told me they use nets to catch their baitfish so it may be worth a try.

[Zed]

Dip nets are legal.
Cast nets are illegal.

[CKallday71]

Cheap canned cat food in a nylon tied to your sabiki weight.

[TheToxicJon]

I got a nice gmack on Sunday about 6' from the kayak trolling sibiki. So they are still biting. I think the Spanish macks work just as good