TV, Pac Warriors

[Sdspeed]

Tried to watch ,didn't make it all the way thru. For those of you in the know can
a native Hawaiian kayak angler sell their catch or do they have some sort of commercial license?

[619-SWIM-DOG]

If you are selling your catch you need to have a commercial license. Even in Hawaii were you don't need a fishing license to fish recreationally. See link below.

http://hawaiideptland.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/how-do-i-obtain-a-commercial-fishing-license%3F

[jorluivil]

Tried to watch ,didn't make it all the way thru. For those of you in the know can
a native Hawaiian kayak angler sell their catch or do they have some sort of commercial license?


I watched about 15minutes of it.

It was like watching another one of those HH videos

[Sir LJ]

I watched about 15minutes of it.

It was like watching another one of those HH videos

Dude I heard your on crack.
Is that why u couldn't sit thru it?

[HELLSTER INC.]

Can't stand the drama, felt like I was watching the Kardashians on kayaks.....I'll pass

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[jorluivil]

Dude I heard your on crack.
Is that why u couldn't sit thru it?



Apparently, I am.

[momo fish]

Caught the show this morning and loved it... Get to see many different types of kayaker and methods of take..

Not seeing how it's like wicked tuna or the drama as each have their own personal goals and not competing with each other.. And great footage as well..

Did enjoy seeing the rookie not listen to the seasoned pro and have to be rescued by a boat.. Sounds like he would fit right in at LJ 😊

[Dee84cali]

Caught the show this morning and loved it... Get to see many different types of kayaker and methods of take..

Not seeing how it's like wicked tuna or the drama as each have their own personal goals and not competing with each other.. And great footage as well..

Did enjoy seeing the rookie not listen to the seasoned pro and have to be rescued by a boat.. Sounds like he would fit right in at LJ 😊


👍🏽

[maquinapescado]

Not a fishing show and not a full blown drama, somewhere in between.

I'll take any little bit of fishing I can get on TV, but I wish it was more catching and less lip smacking. It was the first show so we'll see how it goes. Hopefully the fishing will ramp up.

[Iceman]

I thought it was pretty darn good. I would watch it just for the cinematography alone. Great camera work. :luxhello:

[2-Stix]

Tried to watch ,didn't make it all the way thru. For those of you in the know can
a native Hawaiian kayak angler sell their catch or do they have some sort of commercial license?

I fished with local guys when I lived in Kaneohe, Oahu from 2002-2004. We would come to the docks and sell fish all the time. People would ask and you could sell. If the docks were empty you just put a sign up in your front yard and people would stop in to buy fish. We had no fishing license let alone a commercial license.

Tie a tea leaf on the boat and head out.

[Dave Legacy]

I thought it was pretty darn good. I would watch it just for the cinematography alone. Great camera work. :luxhello:

Same reason I liked River Monsters. They had to have a hacky mystery to keep the attention of a general audience, but the cinematography far surpassed anything on the WFN with often times better fishing as well.

[Tandem Assassin]

I liked the cinematography as well but lost interest quickly.

Didn't dig the brotherhood (we all know about it), fishing for cash, running with rocks, biting the octopus, ect. Also during the two tuna hook-ups the reel went from a gold Penn to a black Penn several times which makes you question the validity of the show. I also believe the sleigh ride they show in the opening is actually tied to a boat.

Seems like they had to write a story-line some where between Deadliest Catch and Wicked Tuna. Not my cup of tea as it does not reflect reality.

[skrilla]

It's a TV show, had to keep repeating that while I watched.

A pet peeve of mine with fishing shows is dubbing in the clicker sound when fighting a fish. Now everytime I see a shiny gold Penn Torque that dreaded noise will replay in my head. :p

Also incontinuinity with shots. Noticed the same exact rod used for bendo shots for two different scenes, one with Rob and once with Jon Jon. This was a custom rod ( yellowish wraps with dragon scale ) and I doubt they both ordered the same exact one.

Hated the Boogie D segments. Over dramatized. Having his client jump into shark infested waters to untangle the rudder or else "he can't paddle in" :rolleyes: . A good guide would paddle over and help no? Also if so dangerous, why is the camera man in the water with him? And losing visual with your client even with a camera crew on a boat?

Always liked Rob since watching those Penn promo vids. 800 bucks for a 40# tuna though? It's been 2 bucks a pound here in SD, straight from the RSW.

Jon Jon is funny. I like his DGAF I'm gonna get a WR marlin campain. Can't wait to see more of him.

And Kimi biting the octopus to kill it, hell yeah!

Would like to see more footage of the local life, food, wahines. :cool:

Overall like the show. It's no accurate depiction, well cause it's gotta appeal to the masses. That said can't wait to see the new wave of kayak fisherman out on the water expecting the type of fishing they watch on TV.

[ful-rac]

Not sure if the show will work....but I guess it remains to be seen. It's different from wicked tuna and the deadliest catch in the sense that there is no competition between the teams/groups of the show. So there's only one set of commercial guys...and everyone else does their own thing...?

The whole carrying rocks underwater to train for kayakfishing was a bit much...I did get a kick outta that one...

[jorluivil]

The camera crew should have come to lj yesterday, they could have filmed me carrying my PA underwater upside-down

[tacmik]

The camera crew should have come to lj yesterday, they could have filmed me carrying my PA underwater upside-down
AGAIN!!!

[Dirty Curti]

It was alright, I enjoyed it. Didn't care for the repeated bendo shot reel screem. I hope we don't see that 10 times every show. But I always enjoy a good fish and catch especially with the Kayaks. Biting the head of the octopus was cool. It turned white & went limp instantly. I'm gonna try that with my next Yellow.:yt::drool5:

I'll watch it again!

[jorluivil]

AGAIN!!!



Yep.......sometimes we make it, sometimes we don't.

[ctfphoto]

I thought it was pretty darn good. I would watch it just for the cinematography alone. Great camera work. :luxhello:

Plus it can't hurt business :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[momo fish]

The whole carrying rock under water is what deep divers do to train underwater. Don't see the point unless he was going to go spear..

But none the less I'm going to try that in LJ and see if that helps me launch better..

[alanw]

I thought it was pretty cool. I didn't like some of the cut in scenes during the fights showing the wrong rods and reels, I was checking out their boats and their rigging but it was hard to even see their live bait tanks. That dude on a tandem with outriggers.. I don't know but that seems like cheating. Some footage of dynamite fishing would be cool.

[JeffB]

I think the one guy is one of the fellow BWE guys. I recognized a clip that he posted here prior to with the shark. They used it on the opener to the show. Also the Marlin scene. Not for sure if its him or not, but it looks like him Kau Grown. Rob

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=20134&highlight=Hawaii

[iethinker]

I thought it was pretty darn good. I would watch it just for the cinematography alone. Great camera work. :luxhello:

x2

[maquinapescado]

The camera crew should have come to lj yesterday, they could have filmed me carrying my PA underwater upside-down

I do it all the time.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/df64b9d9ae6d2f2074692dd19ad228cd/tumblr_ncwnwzpMuq1tzt6bzo1_500.gif

[momo fish]

Anyone pick up the setup when using dead bait that makes it appear to swim like a live bait ?

[FISH11]

Thanks for posting the link to the original post JeffB. The original video of catching the marlin is actually better than most of the Pacific Warriors show. I guess it's because it's more of the catching and less manufactured Hollywood BS you see on all the so called reality shows. I hope the future shows have more fishing shots and less BS. Do you really thinks that the camera boat could have lost sight of the younger kayaker. It amazes me how stupid people can be to believe all the BS on the "Not Real" reality shows.

[alanw]

Anyone pick up the setup when using dead bait that makes it appear to swim like a live bait ?

I think it was just a swivel to a 20' leader. It was the tuna he had to hand line up the last 20' because the swivel won't fit through the guides.

[Rambo]

I thought the show was a great watch. Entertaining and if you look at it from a beginner stand point, it does offer what dreams you can achieve in the sport of fishing on plastic. The show also highlight safety so it should enlighten some people.

Hey its another kayak show! :luxhello: There's too many boating show and not enough kayak show. And its another spot light that shines on the kayak fishing community to showcase you could still tackle that 100+ lbs pelagic on a piece of plastic. :the_finger:

Can't wait to see the rest of the season and see how it plays out.

[captnblood34]

Thought it was great! Showed the world(who knows nothing about our addiction) a glimpse of what kayak fisherman do. I've seen dudes turn tail at the LJ launch because they were scared of knee slappers, the conditions they were fishing in were extreme compared to what we are normally faced with. It was entertaining so say the least. Those of you who lost interest quickly probably did so as the babe in the two piece came on.... To each his own! I was sweating more watching this than I do watching cops...

Jay

[Starsky]

The show was alright, I enjoyed it. They have to add the drama because most of the audience has zero experience with kayak fishing. Now my Co workers will think I'm a bad ass when I tell them I'm going Kayak fishing! :cool:

[taggermike]

Just the trailer was enough for me. Way too dramatic and way too much attitude. Absolutely beautifully filmed above and below water for sure. I think making kayak fishing in to an "extreme sport" is ridiculous. Mike

[ctfphoto]

I missed the show, but is is on again at 11 AM this morning and I will watch it.

So we are bad ass now?

[Aznronin]

I learned never to go fishing with dynamite. Lol

[ctfphoto]

I liked the show. Good but not great photography, IMO.

Of course they have to sensationalize aspects of the show, but overall pretty cool.

They showed huge Hawaii waves but NO kayak entry or exiting those waves, ;)

The guy freaks out (for the camera) oh my gawd bro I got a really big shark on ..... really. Same thing happens daily in La Jolla :D

Rescues at sea, at least two this week in La Jolla.

[Iceman]

available online now :D

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/pacific-warriors/videos/open-season/

[C.W.C.]

Anyone pick up the setup when using dead bait that makes it appear to swim like a live bait ?

I haven’t seen the show yet, but there are countless ways to rig up strips, pieces, skinned, whole, filleted,etc to resemble the real thing. A common method is to use an egg sinker and bridle it in the chin section of your favored local fresh dead forage. Butterflied baits is a another great way to stay active with the dead stuff. In this months issue that just came in my mailbox a couple days ago of Florida Sport Fishing Journal / November-December 2015, there was a similar section on stitching and rigging a variety of dead baits for attracting offshore Pelagic application(s). Possibilities are endless..:reel:

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[King Saba]

Oops. Didn't realize that the link was posted already.

[Fishin' Magician]

Personally, I enjoyed the show. As I don't get Jim Sammon's show on Direct TV, I liked the fact that it showed salt water kayak fishing. It will certainly give the sport a lot more noteriety, (not sure that that's a good thing though). I'm hoping that the up coming episodes will show more actual fish catching, techniques, etc.... But I'll definitely watch it again and see if it grows on me like Wicked Tuna did, (wasn't sure that I liked it at first, but then got hooked).

[YakDout]

Personally, I enjoyed the show. As I don't get Jim Sammon's show on Direct TV, I liked the fact that it showed salt water kayak fishing. It will certainly give the sport a lot more noteriety, (not sure that that's a good thing though). I'm hoping that the up coming episodes will show more actual fish catching, techniques, etc.... But I'll definitely watch it again and see if it grows on me like Wicked Tuna did, (wasn't sure that I liked it at first, but then got hooked).


You cam stream kayak fishing show online. CarbonTv

[Dirty Curti]

I watch the JIM SAMMONS show, I've seen about 10 of the shows and it's mostly lakes & streams I was hoping for more of his ocean explorations. I think out of those 10 only one had ocean fishing. But way to many commercials.

I like Jim though so I will continue to watch it. Lot's of good info.

[maquinapescado]

Anyone pick up the setup when using dead bait that makes it appear to swim like a live bait ?

I don't think it works well with mackerel, but I have rigged ballyhoo a bunch. The key elements are a swivel 3-5' from the hook, a ringed hook and the techniques used to rig the ballyhoo itself.

Run your finger and thumb down the belly several times to squeeze all the feces/excrement out, thoroughly break the back by bending it it rather firmly at many points from behind the gills to the tail, bend it in a wave like motion until it is very flimsy, stuff a one ounce sinker and tie in place by crisscrossing under the gills (I always used dental floss but there is fancy stuff specifically for it) and away you go.

I am sure there are youtube videos for it. I don't think mackerel will work as well. Lots of people still just bimini-twist their leader to main line and straight hook, rather than ring hook and swivel though.

Maybe I will dust off my GoPro and make a video next time I go Marlin fishing and actually rig some.

[Geno Machino]

Loved it! What's not too...catching big fish, new technics, beautiful scenery. I take the show with a grain of salt on the action/cut in shots but besides that - it gives me motivation to get out there a catch something big and if I do how these guys get them into there kayaks is informative, also.

Geno

[kjsdad619]

I liked it, 4 y/o daughter liked it..I understand some of the editing was booty but I'll take this show over any other show on T.V. right now...who we kidding, I'm sure all of us would rather be on the water...but this will tide me over in the meantime.:cheers1:

[kjsdad619]

Loved it! What's not too...catching big fish, new technics, beautiful scenery. I take the show with a grain of salt on the action/cut in shots but besides that - it gives me motivation to get out there a catch something big and if I do how these guys get them into there kayaks is informative, also.

Geno

:cheers1: Agreed Geno!

[Ro12]

Ro1 and son Ro2 liked it
So Ro12 will keep watching for now

[Iceman]

Is Kimi in a Scrambler or a Trident......com on editors! The narrator is starting to come off like what a good Southpark satire would sound like.........still watching. Last night's show was just OK. Jon Jon should have pulled out a grenade!

[MITCHELL]

Way better than Naked and afraid that show grosses me out...don't see what people see in naked people suffering in a swamp or ect...ect..especially when I sit down eat dinner in front of the TV

[Iceman]

SoCal needs to be represented!

http://www.discovery.com/pw-board/?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=pacificwarriors

[ful-rac]

Is Kimi in a Scrambler or a Trident......com on editors! The narrator is starting to come off like what a good Southpark satire would sound like.........still watching. Last night's show was just OK. Jon Jon should have pulled out a grenade!



Hey bro....I'm not gonna tell you again...you can't fish here...

You got 10 minutes to pack up your shit and leave....or else!

[Tandem Assassin]

Hey bro....I'm not gonna tell you again...you can't fish here...

You got 10 minutes to pack up your shit and leave....or else!

The "brotherhood" is way over played and turns my stomach - I would of dropped him...Try that at LJ..

[momo fish]

And a 35 pound Ono that she easily threw aboard.. Hmmm

Is Kimi in a Scrambler or a Trident......com on editors! The narrator is starting to come off like what a good Southpark satire would sound like.........still watching. Last night's show was just OK. Jon Jon should have pulled out a grenade!

[ful-rac]

Oh yeah...how about, 15 pound dorado.....cha ching! $100 bucks...


Yeah right....!

[jorluivil]

Hey bro....I'm not gonna tell you again...you can't fish here...

You got 10 minutes to pack up your shit and leave....or else!



You sure they weren't in Malibu?

[Iceman]

I heard the Malibu crew is working on a show deal........with the 1 condition, just can't air the catches for 3 years:D

[jorluivil]

I heard the Malibu crew is working on a show deal........with the 1 condition, just can't air the catches for 3 years:D



Hahahahahahaha.......good one iceman! !!!

[skrilla]

Those braddahs must be cracking up right now hurricane popcorn in hand. :D

[momo fish]

I needed a good laugh today !! And after 3 years don't forget you still can't mention the word Malibu..

That's some straight out BS.. I'm sure if the guy wasn't 6'2 300 pounds he would not have the balls to tell a little guy to leave..

I heard the Malibu crew is working on a show deal........with the 1 condition, just can't air the catches for 3 years:D

[Dirty Curti]

Still fun to watch but...What's with the editing on the rods & reels??? Show him cranking on a conventional and then a coffee grinder...figure it out.

And then he rolls his kayak in bumpy water, apparently sharks all around, and then climbs aboard and it's glassy and no sharks anywhere.

[Rambo]

It's a low budget reality show with all these clip chop and put together. I saw the same thing, just like you guys, at one moment you see the coffee grinder scream and then you see the conventional reel on the fish. :confused:

[Rtobin19]

Not sure if the show will work....but I guess it remains to be seen. It's different from wicked tuna and the deadliest catch in the sense that there is no competition between the teams/groups of the show. So there's only one set of commercial guys...and everyone else does their own thing...?

The whole carrying rocks underwater to train for kayakfishing was a bit much...I did get a kick outta that one...

I just want a show that focuses more on the fishing, bait options bait choice, where and how to find themWhat tackle do you use when you have one type versus another.explain hook sizes, line sizes and brands. Rod reels. Kayak accessories, the list goes on.they just go straight into character development; this guy is the cool old timer, this guy is the new hothead, how will they fish these waters together and educate poeople on their techniques and gear.

[jorluivil]

I just want a show that focuses more on the fishing, bait options bait choice, where and how to find themWhat tackle do you use when you have one type versus another.explain hook sizes, line sizes and brands. Rod reels. Kayak accessories, the list goes on.they just go straight into character development; this guy is the cool old timer, this guy is the new hothead, how will they fish these waters together and educate poeople on their techniques and gear.




I'm sure the producers are filling it with drama to attract the viewers, they could care less about hook sizes and bait options.

[Cbad Mike]

Shows like this (reality) are the reason that I stopped watching TV years ago.
I'm not bagging on this particular show because I've never seen it but I believe that "reality" shows contribute to the dummying down of society .
Just my opinion but reality shows are basically all the same from The Real Housewives of wherever to Honey Boo Boo. I've never seen an episode of the Kardashians and feel more intelligent because of that and I sure as hell won't pay a cable company so they can continue to produce more trash and sudo "celebrities".

P.T. Barnum said it best,
"If you want to shoot for the masses, aim low"

When I need my fix of REAL fishing video I just watch the posted stuff here on BWE.

[HELLSTER INC.]

:cheers1: I could not agree more!Shows like this (reality) are the reason that I stopped watching TV years ago.
I'm not bagging on this particular show because I've never seen it but I believe that "reality" shows contribute to the dummying down of society .
Just my opinion but reality shows are basically all the same from The Real Housewives of wherever to Honey Boo Boo. I've never seen an episode of the Kardashians and feel more intelligent because of that and I sure as hell won't pay a cable company so they can continue to produce more trash and sudo "celebrities".

P.T. Barnum said it best,
"If you want to shoot for the masses, aim low"

When I need my fix of REAL fishing video I just watch the posted stuff here on BWE.

[HELLSTER INC.]

You want reality...come to BWE :luxhello:

[Fishin' Magician]

That whole scene with Rob and Jon Jon...., what the hell was all that about? So these guys, (Rob and Andy) 'own' the waters and specific spots? Get real. That really gives the sport and us kayak fisherman a black eye. I know that's it just a TV show and that they need to have 'conflict' in it so that people will want to watch, but that was a bit over the top. Jon Jon should have just gone out anyway and told them to get lost.

Oh, by the way...., I now claim the fishing rights to all of Newport Harbor. Anyone who wants to fish there has to check with me and get my permission first! Rob need not apply....

[Cbad Mike]

UPDATE to last post...

I just watched the show online up to the part where the guy jumps in the water to untangle his rudder and that was more than enough for me.

Gotta ask... Who does that guy who was training the new guy think he is by having him carry rocks? Mister freakin Miyagi? LOL
I'm sure that I wasn't the only one who noticed that while this guy was taking the new guy to what they say is a such a dangerous area, the new guy was paddling with his paddle upside down. LOL.
What a joke!!!

Editing gets a C- at best.
Side note... From what I hear the Vanilla Ice Home improvement reality show editing gets a B-.

I think I heard "Bro" enough, thank you.

Had to laugh when the guy lost the Tuna right after he thanked God for allowing him to catch it. LMFAO!!!
Makes it look as if God doesn't like the show either.

I was also wondering that if the only reason the two guys fished was to sell their catch why they wouldn't just buy a boat. I'm sure they could make a better living with a skiff.

ANYWAY.....
I really did try to watch with an open mind but like I said before, reality TV is not for me.

[alanw]

It's not a fishing show, it's about the men - the Pacific Warriors. It will never be a fishing show.

Mike, why would you lump this in with Honey Boo Boo without ever watching it? Read the backstories. These guys aren't even what we think of as kayak fishermen here. Some are paying respect to the gods and their ancestors way of life and protecting their ancient fishing community waters. Once you get that part then the show becomes better, even with the editing flaws.

[jorluivil]

You want reality...come to BWE :luxhello:


There's no drama here




















Que popcorn

[HELLSTER INC.]

Exactly,lol new show BWE " men in little plastic boats"

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[jorluivil]

Exactly,lol new show BWE " men in little plastic boats"

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If I had a nickel for every time a coworker asked me,

Hey, have you seen that show......



I'd have $1.00 +/- 2 nickels





The best one was,

Hey, have you seen that show where they fish on those canoes like the one you got

[Iceman]

I'm sure the producers are filling it with drama to attract the viewers, they could care less about hook sizes and bait options.

It would be like Gold Rush going after the gold panning demographic :D

[GregAndrew]

I gave it a second chance to be a fishing show and it failed miserably.

[momo fish]

Expecting this to be a fishing show is like expecting the real housewife shows to be about housewife stuff 😊...

It would be to boring.. Side bet on who gets Kimmi prego first and when Rob turns out to be really Rachel in season 3...

[captnblood34]

I wish some of your fishing reports were as long winded as your opinions of a cable tv show..... Just impressive

[momo fish]

I wish some of your fishing reports were as long winded as your opinions of a cable tv show..... Just impressive


Me?

[captnblood34]

Me?

No

[jorluivil]

I wish some of your fishing reports were as long winded as your opinions of a cable tv show..... Just impressive



And how many fish reports have you posted?

[captnblood34]

And how many fish reports have you posted?

I post a report when it's beneficial to everyone, but they'll sound a lot like.... "There I was watching everyone else slaying them...."

[jorluivil]

I post a report when it's beneficial to everyone, but they'll sound a lot like.... "There I was watching everyone else slaying them...."


Sounds like my last 15 trips

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

I watch the JIM SAMMONS show, I've seen about 10 of the shows and it's mostly lakes & streams I was hoping for more of his ocean explorations. I think out of those 10 only one had ocean fishing. But way to many commercials.

I like Jim though so I will continue to watch it. Lot's of good info.


That is pretty funny considering we shoot in fresh water maybe once a year and not at all this year. So far this year we have been to Panama, Florida, Baja, Costa Rica, Curacao and in two weeks Belize.
My producer is in Canada so he kind of insists that we do a shoot up there every year so that gets us that one FW shoot normally. And honestly the fishing up there is pretty damn good so Ill take it.

Not going to comment on the PW show, other than great camera work and I wish if they insist on saying how dangerous and extreme the sport is that they would set an example by wearing PFD's.

[ctfphoto]

if they insist on saying how dangerous and extreme the sport is that they would set an example by wearing PFD's.

Ya I noticed no PFD on a guy, really? He must think he is Yani.

[Harry Hill]

I put the show under the same heading as all of the other reality/drama shows that discovery shows. The format is the same for all of them, run up to a commercial break with something dreadful about to happen, come back from the commercial and show the final 2 minutes from before the commercial up the the dreadful incident and then nothing bad happens until right before the next commercial. Have some conflict between the main characters that is made up for the cameras and have a few that act like total jerks so the audience has someone to hate. Then have sloppy editing because the producers have no respect for their audience. I think Deadliest Catch is the least of the offenders but it's still pretty predictable. I still watch them though because it's better than situation comedies.All of the shows can't be Meateater or Wingshooting USA.

[Iceman]

I still watch them though because it's better than situation comedies.

Far and away the best show on TV is on tonight at 10pm on FX :D

[anchovie]

I've watched about 10 episodes of the kayak fishing show now. All have been fresh water.

What's up Jim??? When will the LA Jolla show be on?

[kjsdad619]

NO Sh*t right..come on man..not that serious

The "brotherhood" is way over played and turns my stomach - I would of dropped him...Try that at LJ..

[Harry Hill]

Far and away the best show on TV is on tonight at 10pm on FX :D
Fargo is outstanding, pure craziness.

[PAL]

It's a 'reality' show, anyone who mistakes it for a documentary is missing a few brain cells. The producers set the story lines. They have a formula to follow. They need interpersonal drama, heroes and antagonists.

If the people in front of the camera don't cooperate, either directly or through manipulation, they find someone who will or get creative in the editing bay. The power is all on Discovery's side.

I've known several of the people on Pacific Warriors for years. We put together a couple of magazine features. You might find them interesting. If nothing else, the photos are epic.

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/editors-pick/big-game-fishing-big-island-style/

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/features/the-aquahunters/

Since I've fished with many of this crew, I have a few thoughts. I doubt Rob truly lost that first tuna. Isaac is a strong paddler, maybe the best of that bunch. I'm not buying his open water flip. I've never met Jason but I find it hard to believe he's such a Barney, although the boat rescue shown in the first episode is rumored to be real.

If I took it at face value, I wouldn't feel sorry for Jon Jon. Not after his scene with the needlefish, the "poor man's marlin." Laughable. Add his foul mouth, disrespectful attitude and training wheel outriggers. He doesn't strike me as a guy with the stuff to claim the first 500-lb kayak marlin. Who knows how much of it is real? None of these people can talk. They all signed NDAs.

In other words, don't take the show so seriously. It's TV. It isn't a fishing show. It's a drama that happens to have gorgeous scenery, the occasional epic fish, and a ton of awful editing. I wish the production company had treated the subject with greater respect.

[jorluivil]

Its not rocket science


If you don't like it




Don't watch it






I don't watch it




I'd rather watch How it's Made or How the Universe Works

[ctfphoto]

It's TV,

The problem is we know the subject too well.

I remember seeing a Bear Grylls episode where he was in the Eastern Sierra trying to get out ( I know this area like the back of my hand) and he made soooooooo many stupid mistakes it was laughable .... I know that subject too well ..........

[Dirty Curti]

That is pretty funny considering we shoot in fresh water maybe once a year and not at all this year. So far this year we have been to Panama, Florida, Baja, Costa Rica, Curacao and in two weeks Belize.
My producer is in Canada so he kind of insists that we do a shoot up there every year so that gets us that one FW shoot normally. And honestly the fishing up there is pretty damn good so Ill take it.

Not going to comment on the PW show, other than great camera work and I wish if they insist on saying how dangerous and extreme the sport is that they would set an example by wearing PFD's.

Looking forward to those Shows Jim, I'll be watching!

P.S. I love that the intro is a launch from LJ.

[Cbad Mike]

The first and last real reality show!!!

[surfisher]

I've known several of the people on Pacific Warriors for years. We put together a couple of magazine features. You might find them interesting. If nothing else, the photos are epic.

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/editors-pick/big-game-fishing-big-island-style/

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/features/the-aquahunters/


Whoah, thanks for sharing! Those photos are rad!!

[Apex Predator]

Expecting this to be a fishing show is like expecting the real housewife shows to be about housewife stuff 😊...

It would be to boring.. Side bet on who gets Kimmi prego first and when Rob turns out to be really Rachel in season 3...

LMAO thats the funniest thing I heard all day!!

[Apex Predator]

I am going to the Big Island on Saturday for 10 Days, I want to roll up on Rob's beach and see him try to punk me out. Anyone know where they launching from? Are they mostly fishing out of the Kona side of the Island?.....10 min to leave, right, more like you got 10 seconds to get out of my face. I cant believe he bullied that little Asian guy. It reminded me of the movie North Shore and the caricature stereotype Portagee Hawaiian it portrayed. I have surfed the north shore plenty of times and good surfers will always get respect if you can hold your own.

[jruiz]

All of a sudden everyone's 1/10 native Hawaiian and speaking pidgin:rolleyes:

[ronbo613]

Missed the show; no TV.

[Dave Legacy]

It's TV,

The problem is we know the subject too well.

I remember seeing a Bear Grylls episode where he was in the Eastern Sierra trying to get out ( I know this area like the back of my hand) and he made soooooooo many stupid mistakes it was laughable .... I know that subject too well ..........

This was the episode that made me realize that Discovery Channel was messing with me. The lake he swam across at the end I was sure was Grant Lake.

[ctfphoto]

This was the episode that made me realize that Discovery Channel was messing with me. The lake he swam across at the end I was sure was Grant Lake.


Yes swimming across the lake (risk hypothermia) was ridiculous .... the smart move is to walk around the shoreline, duh ...

He also down climbed a steep rock face when he did not need to, everywhere in the High Sierra where there is a steep rock face, there are always easier ways down.

[RockyRaab]

Saw a bit of the show last night, and even though I'm not a saltwater yakker, it didn't take long for me to groan at all the hype, the fake drama, and the terrible continuity errors.

But thanks to reading this thread, I now about Jim's shows. Searching for them next.

Reality TV is an oxymoron.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

If you are selling your catch you need to have a commercial license. Even in Hawaii were you don't need a fishing license to fish recreationally. See link below.

http://hawaiideptland.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/how-do-i-obtain-a-commercial-fishing-license%3F
You don't in California either as I've recently discovered. Article 1 Section 25 of the California Constitution, check it out.

[Iceman]

The production of this show is wearing on me. Again Kimi in the Trident, then the Scrambler, back and forth. The show is just too piecemealed together. They try to add confusion and excitement in choppy short clips. Surprised they are not working to make you care about the characters, seems that would be crucial, back stories, home life.........lacking some key components.
Again tangles and lost fish and sharks that are just added footage :rolleyes:

Last night had Isaac and partner making a 5 mile trek down the river to get to an area too rocky to launch from.......then after, they landed smiling on a nice serene sandy stretch of beach. :rolleyes:

They supposedly pulled off the river and camped out but showed none of that, we were supposed to believe that because they asked each other how they slept.........still great camera work, fire the producer!

[Aznronin]

And Issac makes $8,000 in just 3 weeks Kayakfishing because now he has a partner to fish with...lol.

[Aznronin]

What's next? Are the production boats going to hook up on giant fish and hand them the rod after they mothership them out to rough areas?

[ctfphoto]

Like I have said this before ......


...... You could make a better quality show and with a chef showing how to cook the awesome catch in his kitchen :D;):the_finger:;):D

Think cooking channel.

.....shoot based in La Jolla with trips to Baja, Hawaii, Central Coast, Alaska,
Floriduh, High Sierra .......


Get a talent agent ;)

[Iceman]

they may not be exaggerating the money they make.......good grief that is expensive!

http://honolulufish.com/hawaiian-mahi-mahi-wahoo/

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

they may not be exaggerating the money they make.......good grief that is expensive!

http://honolulufish.com/hawaiian-mahi-mahi-wahoo/

No wonder they don't CnR ever. That is crazy right there. Or does that price include overnight shipping around the globe.

[Jim Sammons LJKF]

OK I just looked it up, that price does include "Free" shipping to anywhere in the US.

[Aznronin]

they may not be exaggerating the money they make.......good grief that is expensive!

http://honolulufish.com/hawaiian-mahi-mahi-wahoo/

No wonder spam is so popular. Lol

[Aznronin]

OK I just looked it up, that price does include "Free" shipping to anywhere in the US.

But the lube it comes with is extra...

[Rambo]

they may not be exaggerating the money they make.......good grief that is expensive!

http://honolulufish.com/hawaiian-mahi-mahi-wahoo/

I would believe so on the amount of money spent on fresh fish. Everything is quite expensive in Hawaii since the majority of produce are imported in. I been there to the islands and man fresh ahi poke in all the markets and convenient stores. You don't see that in California.

[tacmik]

You don't in California either as I've recently discovered. Article 1 Section 25 of the California Constitution, check it out.
"that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish
may be taken. " Condition of any and all species is that you have a fishing license.

[Dave Legacy]

The same bendo shot over and over again didn't bother me the first two episodes, but the honeymoon period is over and I'm starting to feel insulted. No doubt I'll still keep coming back week after week to be disgusted. =)

[GregAndrew]

I have figured out a way to watch it without falling asleep. DVR it and keep your thumb on the FF button. Watched the parts of that episode that looked worth playing in 20 minutes.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

"that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish
may be taken. " Condition of any and all species is that you have a fishing license.
It says, "by statute, may regulate the season and method of take". Nothing about the license.

Here's some case law for ya too!


Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105 (1943)
No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262 (1963)
If the State converts a liberty into a privilege, the Citizen can engage in the right with impunity.


Miller v. U.S., 230 F. 2nd. 486, 489 (5th Cir. 1959) Id. at 489-490
The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.

[octico]

It says, "by statute, may regulate the season and method of take". Nothing about the license.

Here's some case law for ya too!


Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105 (1943)
No State shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262 (1963)
If the State converts a liberty into a privilege, the Citizen can engage in the right with impunity.


Miller v. U.S., 230 F. 2nd. 486, 489 (5th Cir. 1959) Id. at 489-490
The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.

Where you been in Kevin? Good luck trying to use that argument in court. Its pretty clear in the fish and game code.

Article 2. General Provisions - California Fish and Game Code Section 7121

7121. Except as otherwise provided by this code or by regulation,
it is unlawful to sell or purchase any fish or amphibia taken in, or
brought into, the waters of the state, or brought ashore at any point
in the state.
It is unlawful to buy, sell, or possess in any place of business
where fish are bought, sold, or processed, any fish or amphibia taken
on any boat, barge, or vessel which carries sport fishermen, except
those fish may be possessed in such a place only for the purposes of
canning or smoking under regulations adopted by the commission.

[Tandem Assassin]

I have figured out a way to watch it without falling asleep. DVR it and keep your thumb on the FF button. Watched the parts of that episode that looked worth playing in 20 minutes.

I don't think the show will be around for long as the subject matter has a small but knowledgeable audience. Ratings will be poor for a prime time Friday show and it will be cancelled shortly...

I find the footage on BWE more entertaining.

[Silbaugh4liberty]

Where you been in Kevin? Good luck trying to use that argument in court. Its pretty clear in the fish and game code.

Article 2. General Provisions - California Fish and Game Code Section 7121
Hey John, sorry I've been MIA! Been real busy, might be changing jobs soon, church, etc. Did some fishing yesterday with a buddy near the rigs south of izors, limited on rockies for the 3 of us real easily, they were throwing up those red tuna crabs. Didn't know those things were still around. No bait tank, and couldn't find any in the spots my buddy went, so that's all we got.

The key word your missing in that dfg reg. Is "BUSINESS". Are you a business? Those codes are statutory, meaning they don't apply if you don't engage in the contract via "fishing license". Keep in mind, a license is getting permission to do something that you not be able to do, without asking permission. However, the California Constitution is very clear that it is a RIGHT, which cannot be converted into a privilege, and attach a fee, and license for.

[Iceman]

This is the scene that I felt really insulted my intelligence............do you believe there were sharks at the time he had these fish on or was it just fabricated adding in some shark scenes? :D

and why did they land at that lil beach after paddling 5 miles down river to get there?

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/pacific-warriors/videos/super-sharky-double-catch/

[Aznronin]

This is the scene that I felt really insulted my intelligence............do you believe there were sharks at the time he had these fish on or was it just fabricated adding in some shark scenes? :D

and why did they land at that lil beach after paddling 5 miles down river to get there?

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/pacific-warriors/videos/super-sharky-double-catch/

These guys are quickly becoming the Kardashians of Kayakfishing. Everything is glamorous and fake as hell. I wonder who will become addicted to crack and who will get the transgender sex change. Lol

[HELLSTER INC.]

These guys are quickly becoming the Kardashians of Kayakfishing. Everything is glamorous and fake as hell. I wonder who will become addicted to crack and who will get the transgender sex change. Lol

What i said from the beginning!!!

[Harry Hill]

I'm getting more disappointed with each episode

[Aznronin]

I learn something useful every time I watch the show. I learned that next time I should paddle about 5 miles out of the way to land at baby beach if I want to catch big fish. I also learned that I've been using the wrong equipment. I really to switch from my conventional reels to those magical spinning reels that conver to conventional to catch big fish.

[alanw]

I bet you all still watch the next episode.

[Aznronin]

I bet you all still watch the next episode.

Nope. I took it off the dvr record list. The last show was terrible. I have better things to do.