Makobob needs HELP

[makobob]

My feet are bad and not getting better. Getting VERY hard to peddle effectively and I am not ready put the paddle down YET. So your input is asked for.

REQUIREMENTS:::::....... Weight under 60 lbs rigged.
Price under $3000.
Sit on top.

Ready to pull the trigger on a STEALTH Pro Fisha 525, any input appreciated.
Should be drivivg to Lodi Ca this coming week. Thanks guy's, Tight Lines.

[rossman]

My feet are bad and not getting better. Getting VERY hard to peddle effectively and I am not ready put the paddle down YET. So your input is asked for.

REQUIREMENTS:::::....... Weight under 60 lbs rigged.
Price under $3000.
Sit on top.

Ready to pull the trigger on a STEALTH Pro Fisha 525, any input appreciated.
Should be drivivg to Lodi Ca this coming week. Thanks guy's, Tight Lines.

OK Trident 11 probably fits and can buy 2 for that price. Rod pod is very nice but your rod length will be limited with an 11 footer. Bummer Bob!

[TheBoyScout]

Come to my gym in Vista and I'll help you out. I specialize in pain management


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[makobob]

NOT about the pain, been managing that, it's about the use of both feet, Knew years ago I would wind up in a wheel chair. This is about finding a yak that will let me continue yaking on my terms. Light weight, fast, fairly stable. At 68 it is just a matter of time. So LIVE EVERY DAY to it's fullest guy's. Tight Lines.


Come to my gym in Vista and I'll help you out. I specialize in pain management


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[TheBoyScout]

What's wrong with them?


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[makobob]

OK Trident 11 probably fits and can buy 2 for that price. Rod pod is very nice but your rod length will be limited with an 11 footer. Bummer Bob!

Thanks Ross, looking for a little more speed and will need room for a few of your Asuncion YT when we come at Thanksgiving. ALSO looking to ride the San Roque falls again, that was fun!!! See you soon, Tight Lines amigo.

[rossman]

Thanks Ross, looking for a little more speed and will need room for a few of your Asuncion YT when we come at Thanksgiving. ALSO looking to ride the San Roque falls again, that was fun!!! See you soon, Tight Lines amigo.

Under 60 pounds rigged is really going to limit your choices.

[makobob]

Under 60 pounds rigged is really going to limit your choices.

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

[CR Yaker]

You got that right, Bob, live it while you can!

Good luck on a new vessel.

[pingpangdang]

NOT about the pain, been managing that, it's about the use of both feet, Knew years ago I would wind up in a wheel chair. This is about finding a yak that will let me continue yaking on my terms. Light weight, fast, fairly stable. At 68 it is just a matter of time. So LIVE EVERY DAY to it's fullest guy's. Tight Lines.
Very motivating...almost 40 but hope to be as active as you at your age. A lot of guys in there 40s have already given up on their passions and are dwindling away. Awesome and inspiring.

As for a kayak I still use my malibu minix. 40lb hull wt wide and stable especially in surf. I can top load it easier than most kayaks nowadays that are double the weight.

It's not the fastest but with a good paddle it can handle lj as long as your not going for tuna 5 miles out. I have a crap paddle but i like things i can just toss around and not worry about.

Its better than having to paddle a pa with a broken drive anyday.





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[Zed]

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

Im sorry its coming down to this Bob. I hope you can sort out something. Id love to have a Steath. The Lodi trip is a pisser. CaboJohn and I have BSd about a roadie up there to demo but its Lodi. Not much surf there for a good test drive.

From my research/input w the Safas n Aussies, they are real fast Ferrari "skis" but that means they arent Cadillacs. You have to be a proactive paddler to utilize their strength(s) coming and going. Theyre meant for a quick shot through the beach break, pull the rods out of the hull and go for a highspeed troll for a couple hours and back in. Good surfski/SOT hybrids. They are also as tempermental as a Ferrari. They arent near as rugged as the milk jugs we drag over rocks. Youll learn to lay glass/carbon sheets eventually. Even just dragging them over sand is more abrasive to the glass composite seams than sheer plastic. At Beluga for instance I drag plastic a lot there but glass/composite? I would overall lift more just carrying my glass baby to the waters edge and then back to camp vs the fully loaded plastic drag to the water.

All that said, I want one and so does John. Its an offshore trolling machine. If you have to go that direction I would love to paddle it but in the end I think plastic is net better for you.

[buddha]

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.

I think that is a good choice.

[outlawangler]

Dan at Headwaters is a great guy and will take care of you. I have dealt with him on several occasions and still stop by his shop every time I go up to fish the Delta. Good Luck!


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[cabojohn]

My feet are bad and not getting better. Getting VERY hard to peddle effectively and I am not ready put the paddle down YET. So your input is asked for.

REQUIREMENTS:::::....... Weight under 60 lbs rigged.
Price under $3000.
Sit on top.

Ready to pull the trigger on a STEALTH Pro Fisha 525, any input appreciated.
Should be drivivg to Lodi Ca this coming week. Thanks guy's, Tight Lines.

STEALTH Pro Fisha 525...heck YES Bob! do it::notworthy:
Please post a paddle report...like Troy said this will most likely be the next kayakS. Lodi isn't that far.
A Fast kayak that surfs...Could be a game changer for kayak tuna.:cool:
with a composite /carbon yak I'd still use wheels and baby it.

:leaving:

[makobob]

Troy, you and John should be able to give it a shot at Lj in a few weeks. The weight of plastic puts me off the water now. And my wheeleze cart works great for PA's and Outbacks over 100 lbs so the composite yak at 60 will be a big savings in work for me. As to composits and epoxies, been there, done that.

With the health problems, YOU KNOW ME. Every day to it's fullest, as long as I can and as hard as possible. And this was not unexpected, just fine tunning for the next year or two. Tight Lines.


Im sorry its coming down to this Bob. I hope you can sort out something. Id love to have a Steath. The Lodi trip is a pisser. CaboJohn and I have BSd about a roadie up there to demo but its Lodi. Not much surf there for a good test drive.

From my research/input w the Safas n Aussies, they are real fast Ferrari "skis" but that means they arent Cadillacs. You have to be a proactive paddler to
utilize their strength(s) coming and going. Theyre meant for a quick shot through the beach break, pull the rods out of the hull and go for a highspeed troll for a couple hours and back in. Good surfski/SOT hybrids. They are also as tempermental as a Ferrari. They arent near as rugged as the milk jugs we drag over rocks. Youll learn to lay glass/carbon sheets eventually. Even just dragging them over sand is more abrasive to the glass composite seams than sheer plastic. At Beluga for instance I drag plastic a lot there but glass/composite? I would overall lift more just carrying my glass baby to the waters edge and then back to camp vs the fully loaded plastic drag to the water.

All that said, I want one and so does John. Its an offshore trolling machine. If you have to go that direction I would love to paddle it but in the end I think plastic is net better for you.

[2-Stix]

what about the drop in motors? a few yaks have them as an option now. hobie yes, jackson in 2017.

[makobob]

I might be slowly dying, I am not dead! Your solutions ARE still TOO HEAVY. Going lighter and maybe not loosing speed and being the last guy to the bite will be beyond me but I THING NOT. A faster yak will keep me in the pack, Do not need to be in front, just need to get there before the bite shuts down. 5 miles off Asuncion or LJ I can still do, just slower than most. Getting an extra mph will do it and the Stealth Pro Fisha 525 should let me do that, AND not mess up my feet. For me this should be a WIN,Win,win.

AND some lucky person could get a 2015 Hobie Outback to add to their stable. So maybe there will be two winners unless they too sell there yak and three people win. Tight Lines.


what about the drop in motors? a few yaks have them as an option now. hobie yes, jackson in 2017.

[rossman]

That is why I am looking at composite yaks like the Stealth Pro Fisha at 54 lbs factory rigged. I know how to keep gear weight down. 2 rods max and I can always borrow tackle on the water from you and Sven.


Ahhhh. I missed the composite part. That explains the price tag too.

[Deamon]

Help? There's plenty of people willing and able to get you and your yak to the water. Heck, Sven can put you on one shoulder and your yak on the other. It's the cleaning up after your "accidents" that'll have everyone running...:ciao:

Jim

[summers in kuwait]

Sorry to hear the news Bob.

My father recently lost his big toe, but they saved his leg.
But we are stilly watching the foot.

Before I bought my revo 13, I was leading to towards the following:

Stealth evolution
Viking pro fish reload

I liked the kraken 13.5 for the seat and live bait setup, but the additional weight was a factor. I fractured a couple of vertebrae and had some shoulder issues, so I went with the revo 13. There are days I wish I had a simple, light paddle kayak.

Best of luck on the decision. And very interested to see the stealth on the water.

[PapaDave]

Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!

[Harry Hill]

Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!
I had both my knees replaced it is so worth it, my problem now is plantars fasciitis , but it won't keep me off the water. As long as I don't have to walk on water it won't be a problem.

[Holy Mackerel]

Sorry about your health situation. Check out WS Tarpon 100 or 120. I use a Tarpon 100 it supports me at 200lbs. But the 120 paddles much better, pop up seat is nice and convenient too.

[makobob]

I hear you Dave, keep the weight down, and just do it as long as you can. And YOU are right, crawl if you have too. To many guy's just give up because they can't be as good as they once were, so how good were they anyway? Tight Lines.


Sorry to hear about the feet.

Your feet, my knees.

I will crawl to the launch site if necessary!

[MrPukaShell]

Mako, what rack are you going with? Did you get to check some out? Any thoughts on having one made at a fabrication shop? Bet you could get one built in Mexico on the cheap if you looked around, just a thought.

[makobob]

I picked up the RacOne thru Home Depot, it is MUCH better designed and stronger that the Thule it is replacing. Now all I have to do is install it, oh well maybe this afternoon after it cools off some. Will take longer to take the old one off than install the new!!! Leaving for Lodi early Thursday to pick up the Stealth Pro Fisha 525. Then it is down to Gonzaga for a few days to check it out. Tight Lines.


Mako, what rack are you going with? Did you get to check some out? Any thoughts on having one made at a fabrication shop? Bet you could get one built in Mexico on the cheap if you looked around, just a thought.

[toomeymd]

Awesome Bob, can't wait to see it in action! Sucks about your feet, but I understand pushing through pain no matter what.
Tight lines

[Zed]

Leaving for Lodi early Thursday to pick up the Stealth Pro Fisha 525. Then it is down to Gonzaga for a few days to check it out. Tight Lines.
Ive seen lots of fish and fish pictures but you better take pix of the 525 and POST THEM! :D

Go Bob!

[speedydk]

Sorry if someone else already mentioned this but Wilderness used to make a tarpon 120 ultra lite. Might be worth looking into... I took one for a demo ride once. Light and fast but not a wide stable boat by any stretch of the imagination. Stable enough most could probably fish it but doubt anyone would be standing in one. Good luck in your quest!
Darren

[makobob]

DAMN, you know me and pictures................... So you and John are just going to have to set up a play day and meet me at Oceanside or Lj one afternoon and and have a go at it. BTW that invite is open to any BWE members. Just contact me and bring a 6 pk of COLD A&W Cream Sodas, your OWN pfd and paddle. Troy YOU bring your camera and then you can post them all. I know people will want to see them, it is a modified fish/ski that is fast, pretty stable, and has a gigantic storage area for rods and big fish........... AND handles surf launches and landings with MY eyes closed. Not built for bait fishermen, but I am not a masterbaiter. Tight Lines.


Ive seen lots of fish and fish pictures but you better take pix of the 525 and POST THEM! :D

Go Bob!

[alanw]

That kayak looks pretty nice Bob, and if it'll keep you on the water a bit longer then that's a bonus.

[cabojohn]

Can't wait to check out your new kayak Bob.
Stoked for you!
Composite / Carbon Import...It doesn't get any better than this.
Stealth Pro Fisha 525- :cool:
IN for a play day!

[rossman]

Good luck on the trip to Lodi. I know your truck is clueless about driving that far on pavement so watch for an off road rebellion of sorts. "Oh Lord, stuck in Lodi again"

[Zed]

Bob likes wine. Theres a winery right by the yak shop. Hes all set.

[makobob]

Wine, did you say wine, and only two blocks away from the kayak shop? Can you say PARADISE??? TightLines guy's.


Bob likes wine. Theres a winery right by the yak shop. Hes all set.

[Rock Hopper]

Bob, I've never met you, but have been reading of your kayak adventures for years. Good luck on your search for a new kayak.

Dan is THE MAN and a long time supporter of NCKA. While you're there be sure to test paddle an Eddyline Caribbean 14. They fit your criteria. I have two and love them....as do the crew of the Islander. ;)

[makobob]

Guy's seeing I am making the trip anyway, do you want me to pick up an extra one for you two to fight over, or should I bring back one for each of you. Let's see, leave tomorrow night, drive to Lodi, have appointment with Dan at 10 am, purchase yak, load and hopefully be on the road back by noon. Arrive Vista 7-8 pm, finish groceries, hit the sack, get up at 2 am, truck already loaded and on the way to Gonzaga by 3 am. Cross border by 6 am, breakfast at Taco's Poblanos by 8:30, then Gonzaga before 11am. Play time!!!!!!!

This is WHAT I do to keep motivated, stay busy, no reason to get down in the dumps, take your lemons and make lemon pie, you deserve it. Quit your bellyaching and complaining, DO something for yourself. Make plans, post them, by posting you force your self to make them happen. Live EVERYDAY to it's fullest!!! You are the only one responsible for your attitude iand contentment it is ALL in your hands. Only YOU can make yourself HAPPY. If you are still having a problem with this, step back and look at it from a different direction, there is always a way. If all else fails, just take a friend fishing. Tight Lines.

[kaya_one]

Bob,
I have a Tarpon 140 I could let you borrow and try out. It is a circa '05 model. If you like it, take it. Good karma for me. You do a lot for this community and I haven't done much so... Daemon can vouch for the awesome orange color. Pick up in Encinitas.
Its pretty narrow, but I loved it as my first kayak.

PM sent.

[toomeymd]

Let's see, leave tomorrow night, drive to Lodi, have appointment with Dan at 10 am, purchase yak, load and hopefully be on the road back by noon. Arrive Vista 7-8 pm, finish groceries, hit the sack, get up at 2 am, truck already loaded and on the way to Gonzaga by 3 am. Cross border by 6 am, breakfast at Taco's Poblanos by 8:30, then Gonzaga before 11am. Play time!!!!!!! So...I missed the part in there where you go to the wine shop and clean out the shelves...lol

[Deamon]

Bob,
I have a Tarpon 140 I could let you borrow and try out. It is a circa '05 model. If you like it, take it. Good karma for me. You do a lot for this community and I haven't done much so... Daemon can vouch for the awesome orange color. Pick up in Encinitas.
Its pretty narrow, but I loved it as my first kayak.

PM sent.

Next in line for free beautiful orange kayak...same Karma. Jim

[tunaseeker]

Sorry to hear about the feet Bob.... Hope you feel better soon!
You are a great inspiration to all of us!
Cheers!
:cheers1:
Todd

[buddha]

DAMN, you know me and pictures................... So you and John are just going to have to set up a play day and meet me at Oceanside or Lj one afternoon and and have a go at it. BTW that invite is open to any BWE members. Just contact me and bring a 6 pk of COLD A&W Cream Sodas, your OWN pfd and paddle. Troy YOU bring your camera and then you can post them all. I know people will want to see them, it is a modified fish/ski that is fast, pretty stable, and has a gigantic storage area for rods and big fish........... AND handles surf launches and landings with MY eyes closed. Not built for bait fishermen, but I am not a masterbaiter. Tight Lines.

I will bring two six packs of your choice to try that rocket ship of a kayak.

[makobob]

No way, I do not want to be stranded in Lodi. Kaya_one, thank you for your selfless offer. My money is on the Stealth Pro Fisha 525. However a great, world famous, yaker by the name of Deamon Jim would put it to good use. Or you might want to donate is to HOW, as it is a good hull, I had one a few years ago. Jeff, I don't know, as that is a lot of get up and go, your miata might not be able to catch up. Tight Lines.


So...I missed the part in there where you go to the wine shop and clean out the shelves...lol

[cabojohn]

bump bump:jig:

Hola Bob,
Still waiting for pics and a paddle report... :paddleersmilie:
:cool::cool:

[tsugg]

I left the hobie PA14(dark side) because of the weight and I love my Eddyline C-135. It's fast and light and tracks so straight that a rudder isn't needed. And a great seat. $2100.

[Mr_Fixit]

:( My Outback does not track very straight at all even with a rudder. Its actually fairly frustrating. This is my one complaint.

[tsugg]

Everyone says you can fish hands free with the hobies--- not true. You are constantly correcting for a wandering yak. If anything paddling my eddyline is now more hands free than my PA was.Go figure. And once the eddy is up to speed it will coast forever, something a PA just doesn't want to do. The eddyline is a smooth finish like a boat and I think that helps it glide better, not to mention it's a rigid hull so it's fast like a fiberglass surfboard VS a soft surfboard. Something Eddyline calls carbonlite, it's a mixture of carbon fiber for strength and ABS for durability. I know you can buy a paddle yak for way less but they are not even similar to Eddyline products.

[monstahfish]

Just a few other options for you Bob if you want to go thermoform.
Eddyline caribbean 14 50lbs,
hurricane skimmer 140 58lbs,
tarpon 120 ultralite 43 lbs
good luck with the new boat. I'll be glad to help get you down to the water in october.

[chris138]

Cuda LT is around 60 lbs

[_Obed]

Hello im currently in the market for a Stealth profisha 525 or 575.
I would highly appreciate if i could take you up on your offer about trying out the kayak. I've been talking to headwaters and plan on getting one soon. Only problem is i can't try one in surf conditions up there.. or at all until i make the trip to lodi.
If your available i am at your disposal ten min away from lj.
Thank you in advance and good luck with your situation

[walrus]

In early September Makobob gave me a chance to try out his the stealth and here's my view.

Conditions: 10-12 mile per hour winds, open sea, normal wind chop for winds.

What I did wrong, but not it's a kayak problem. I didn't adjust the rudder pedals to fit me before I launched.

I'm 66 years old and found carrying the kayak from the house (in Baja) to the water over my head was easier than pulling my Hobie down there with a wheeleez cart. With the exception of when a gust of wind got underneath and it nearly pulled me over sideways. Yep! it's that light.

The Stealth has a small fixed rudder that was far more responsive than the one one my Hobie. It's important to adjust the steering pedals if you using it after someone else or using it for the first time. You simply cannot turn against the rudder using the paddles. Once I got the steering figured out I turned into the wind and took out like a rocket, this really impressed me for as a person who has not done much paddling the last couple of years. I would give this kayak five stars for performance.

The design is a somewhere between a stand up paddle board and a rotomolded plastic kayak. Because of the low profile it's a wetter than a pro angler, which is not a bad thing when your in Baja.

I'm not ready to give up my Hobie's quite yet, but if my knees continue to get worse, It's good to know I have an alternate choice to giving up the sport.

[buddha]

In early September Makobob gave me a chance to try out his the stealth and here's my view.

Conditions: 10-12 mile per hour winds, open sea, normal wind chop for winds.

What I did wrong, but not it's a kayak problem. I didn't adjust the rudder pedals to fit me before I launched.

I'm 66 years old and found carrying the kayak from the house (in Baja) to the water over my head was easier than pulling my Hobie down there with a wheeleez cart. With the exception of when a gust of wind got underneath and it nearly pulled me over sideways. Yep! it's that light.

The Stealth has a small fixed rudder that was far more responsive than the one one my Hobie. It's important to adjust the steering pedals if you using it after someone else or using it for the first time. You simply cannot turn against the rudder using the paddles. Once I got the steering figured out I turned into the wind and took out like a rocket, this really impressed me for as a person who has not done much paddling the last couple of years. I would give this kayak five stars for performance.

The design is a somewhere between a stand up paddle board and a rotomolded plastic kayak. Because of the low profile it's a wetter than a pro angler, which is not a bad thing when your in Baja.

I'm not ready to give up my Hobie's quite yet, but if my knees continue to get worse, It's good to know I have an alternate choice to giving up the sport.

Did you find it considerably faster than the Hobie?

[makobob]

Did you find it considerably faster than the Hobie?

Jeff with you paddling skills you should be able to maintain 5+ in most conditions.

[makobob]

Jedi, the force was Not with you, had you posted earlier I could have brought it back with me from Baja. It will be back in January, however It could be tried on my Asuncion trip to see Rossman at Thanksgiving OR you could try it at MAG BAY just after New Years. Tight Lines.


Hello im currently in the market for a Stealth profisha 525 or 575.
I would highly appreciate if i could take you up on your offer about trying out the kayak. I've been talking to headwaters and plan on getting one soon. Only problem is i can't try one in surf conditions up there.. or at all until i make the trip to lodi.
If your available i am at your disposal ten min away from lj.
Thank you in advance and good luck with your situation

[Deamon]

Wally...seriously?
Prelaunch peddle adjustment omission? You're getting old pal. You in a diaper these days?
Jim

[walrus]

Buddha:
Yes, it is faster cruising than most of the mirage drive yaks I've tried.

Deamon:
No diaper yet! but like any little kid I get excited about new things and rush into them without checking first.