Feel like being cheated

[Chet]

Hi guys,
I bought the AI from a member here when he contacted me via PM.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=28991

I reminded him what parts/accessories need come with the sale before we meet. We agreed and met only to find out it's missing mirage drive plug and front hatch seal was missing.
He offered to send it to me later. Fast forward 4 months later, with a few PM, never got replied. Still see him online though.
It's not like a lot of money, but promise is promise. :mad:

[octico]

Hi guys,
I bought the AI from a member here when he contacted me via PM.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=28991

I reminded him what parts/accessories need come with the sale before we meet. We agreed and met only to find out it's missing mirage drive plug and front hatch seal was missing.
He offered to send it to me later. Fast forward 4 months later, with a few PM, never got replied. Still see him online though.
It's not like a lot of money, but promise is promise. :mad:

I think I have an extra mirage drive plug. I will look at home, if you don't heard from me send me PM later tonight to remind me to look.

[ful-rac]

Who is this "member"? :confused:


I might have an extra one of those too...

[YakDout]

Put it on blast


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[jorluivil]

Well, it's safe to say that he has officially been put on notice and if he doesn't provide what he promised you have every right to call him out. I understand the whole "buyer beware' thing but like you said, a promise is a promise and if he doesn't come through call him out.........I would.

[SDROB]

Well, it's safe to say that he has officially been put on notice and if he doesn't provide what he promised you have every right to call him out. I understand the whole "buyer beware' thing but like you said, a promise is a promise and if he doesn't come through call him out.........I would.

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[Harry Hill]

Well, it's safe to say that he has officially been put on notice and if he doesn't provide what he promised you have every right to call him out. I understand the whole "buyer beware' thing but like you said, a promise is a promise and if he doesn't come through call him out.........I would.

if he's on here he should see you posting and PM you with his intentions, if he doesn't I would call him out publicly.

[ful-rac]

STINKYMATT?

[YakDout]

You can potentially save us from buying things from a seller who is not honest. Personally I wouldn't hesitate if you gave him his fair chance to come through on his word. Although you do not know for sure that his disappearance was not an emergency, I think its pretty unlikely


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[romspacenut]

First, let me say it was me. When I met up with Chet, he did ask me about the plug. I did say that I may have it my garage. If I found it, I would ship it out to him. I never used it. So never kept track of it. As for the front seal, the original front seals came with the AI. I did mentioned to Chet when we met up that I had bought some Trim-Lok seals a while back to replace the original ones. Never got around to installing them. I've likely lost them accidentally threw them away. Sorry Chet, I do not find either of them. It's my fault for my communicating that to you regardless of my reasons.

[octico]

First, let me say it was me. When I met up with Chet, he did ask me about the plug. I did say that I may have it my garage. If I found it, I would ship it out to him. I never used it. So never kept track of it. As for the front seal, the original front seals came with the AI. I did mentioned to Chet when we met up that I had bought some Trim-Lok seals a while back to replace the original ones. Never got around to installing them. I've likely lost them accidentally threw them away. Sorry Chet, I do not find either of them. It's my fault for my communicating that to you regardless of my reasons.

Good for you for manning up! Shit happens.

[Harry Hill]

I'm glad he came forward, it's too bad it had to get to the point where someone thought they were being cheated but at least now he knows he has to get his parts elsewhere

[Dannowar]

It's a piece of f**king plastic and a piece of rubber. Stop whining you just got a new kayak.

[HELLSTER INC.]

Hold on,let me get some popcorn!

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[YakDout]

Holy chet


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[jorluivil]

Yep.....chet happens

[east county dirtbag]

Lesson to be learned here, which is common sense anyways, is to get everything at once during a cash transaction. If not everything is provided at that time, the buyer has the ability to refuse the transaction. Holy Chet, what a concept.

Or .... you can return to the internet and be a crybaby about being cheated out of 30 dollars worth of parts on a 4000 dollar kayak

[YakDout]

Chet just hit the fan.


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[Oxbeast1210]

I have a plug if you want it I never use it PM me an Adress i'll send it out soon as I can.

Oscar

[Dave Legacy]

Oh man, this really went sideways!

[GTboosted]

Just because he came forward now everyone is on his side?

Wtf? You buy a 40k car and if you get home and the dealer forgot to give you the floor mats... you what.. suck it up because it grand scheme of things...is not much compared to 40k?


Dude ignored him, and that is the problem. Obviously he didnt care until he was pubicly called out. Why couldn't he give the same response via pm?

[Dannowar]

I sure as hell wouldn't cry about it on the internet. I would handle it myself. This world is full of too many spineless whiners who depend on the opinions of others to support their own. That's the internet though. A giant group hug. :yt:

[Iceman]

communication errors......I deal with em on a daily basis mostly with rental peeps calls.

[Chet]

Like I said it's not the money value of the drive plug, what bug me to post it is the ignorance of the seller. I sent multiple PM and phone text, no response.
Now I post it publicly and he came out to response.
I was offered the plug from a few members here, thanks guys but I am not going to accept any. I know most of people still use common senses, and keep their words. It's just the principle.

Dannowar, I don't know what principle(if you have any) you follow.
Do you keep your word when you say something?
Can you make your fellow people trust you?
I leave that up to you.

[jorluivil]

Chet just got real!!!

[MITCHELL]

As is.

[cabojohn]

Holy fuckingshit Batman...I lost 136 seconds of my life reading this thread.

I too feel like I have been Cheted. :eek:

Nevermind...I PADDLE.

[octico]

Oh Chet this just got really funny!

[Bert Vega]

I have to agree with Chet. Doesnt matter if was 30 cents. He could not get in touch with seller. Dude was not replying to him. He did the right thing by putting it up. If I buy a 40k car and get home without the promised floor mat. You better believe the dealer is going to be delivering them to me. It is not the cost it is the principle. Seller could have replied and said he didnt end up having parts and sure this would have ended there.

[Dannowar]

Like I said it's not the money value of the drive plug, what bug me to post it is the ignorance of the seller. I sent multiple PM and phone text, no response.
Now I post it publicly and he came out to response.
I was offered the plug from a few members here, thanks guys but I am not going to accept any. I know most of people still use common senses, and keep their words. It's just the principle.

Dannowar, I don't know what principle(if you have any) you follow.
Do you keep your word when you say something?
Can you make your fellow people trust you?
I leave that up to you.

I've bought and sold so much over this forum it would blow your mind. My principles include letting the little things go. Especially calling someone out on the internet because he forgot a piece that you'll never use besides storing it in your garage. The guy you purchased your kayak from is a good dude who would never go out of his way to cheat someone. The dude misplaced it. As for the 40 k car analogy...totally different ballpark. This is a tight knit community. Go find a rock and fish by yourself.

[ultimatejay]

Integrity- your only as good as your word. Small or big- At least answer the guy back and tell him what happened instead of ignoring them. Geez

[jorluivil]

I can't believe some of the Chet that is being said.

[east county dirtbag]

The whole car dealership thing is a kind of irrelevant analogy. Car dealerships have to be accountable for little things because they operate in an environment where the competition is so stiff that their service or lack thereof can make or break their business.

That's not the case here.

I know whenever ive made cash transactions to purchase used goods in the past, I go into it with the expectation that I will probably never communicate with the seller again. That's how cash transactions work.

Not sure what the end goal of this thread was supposed to be... but the outcome seems negative for all involved

[Zed]

communication errors......I deal with em on a daily basis mostly with rental peeps calls.
"Uh... Yeah... I rented a couple kayaks this morning? We're ready to be picked up."

[Iceman]

"Uh... Yeah... I rented a couple kayaks this morning? We're ready to be picked up." yesterday a couple came in 10 minutes before closing of rental dept 5:20pm. "We called and were told no reservations just walk ins, come on down" Me "When did you call?" them "3 hours ago" :biggrinjester:

[GTboosted]

romspacenut owned up to it. The end, right?

Nope, looks like romspacenut is on the right side of this "tight knit community". So some people decided to bash Chet after romspacenut already owned up to it.



Ps: I am not against anyone(specially not romspacenut, sorry, just had to use the name so that my response makes sense). I just jumped in because it wasn't cool for Chet to get called a crybaby or whiner just for calling someone out.

Also,the analogy of the dealership was made to compare a very small fraction of the cost vs the main purchased item. Not to compare customer service, business practices, competition or whatever. It is within context because, even if they are worth .00001 of what you paid for the car, you would still want those mats.

[Iceman]

2 different versions of the same story.


Chet

We agreed and met only to find out it's missing mirage drive plug and front hatch seal was missing.
He offered to send it to me later.It's not like a lot of money, but promise is promise.romspacenut

he did ask me about the plug. I did say that I may have it my garage. If I found it, I would ship it out to him.

As for the front seal, the original front seals came with the AI. I did mentioned to Chet when we met up that I had bought some Trim-Lok seals a while back to replace the original ones. Never got around to installing them. I've likely lost them accidentally threw them away. Sorry Chet, I do not find either of them.

[east county dirtbag]

romspacenut owned up to it. The end, right?

Nope, looks like romspacenut is on the right side of this "tight knit community". So some people decided to bash Chet after romspacenut already owned up to it.



Ps: I am not against anyone(specially not romspacenut, sorry, just had to use the name so that my response makes sense). I just jumped in because it wasn't cool for Chet to get called a crybaby or whiner just for calling someone out.

Also,the analogy of the dealership was made to compare a very small fraction of the cost vs the main purchased item. Not to compare customer service, business practices, competition or whatever. It is within context because, even if they are worth .00001 of what you paid for the car, you would still want those mats.



Some cars come with mats from the dealer and some don't. I know from personal experience over the years so your analogy still doesn't add up. Just cuz you want something doesn't make it exist.

[romspacenut]

Whoa, this went out of hand. First Chet, I did not promise you anything. I brought everything that I had that I kept track of because of normal use. If something was missing say the dagger board or drive, I would tell you ahead of time. That plug is something that never gets used and simply lost track of. You asked about it when we met for the purchase and I told you that I would ship it to you if I found it. I did not say I promise to ship you a plug. As for your statement about the front seal missing is untrue. I sold you the AI with the original seals present on the AI. You did not even know about the Trim-Lok seals until I mentioned that I had intended to upgrade them and that I may have them somewhere. If I had found them afterwards, I would send them off to you. I'm wrong in not responding in a timely manner, but you need to get your facts right. I'm done responding to this as it's gotten out hand.

[GTboosted]

Some cars come with mats from the dealer and some don't. I know from personal experience over the years so your analogy still doesn't add up. Just cuz you want something doesn't make it exist.

Yo, who is talking about imaginary items?

I am referring to this (translation: its a physical item that will later be sent)
We agreed and met only to find out it's missing mirage drive plug and front hatch seal was missing.
He offered to send it to me later. Fast forward 4 months later, with a few PM, never got replied. Still see him online though.
It's not like a lot of money, but promise is promise. :mad:

[Dannowar]

I'm just gonna leave this here...

http://youtu.be/YIYJpbAK6MY


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[Mr. NiceGuy]

Like I said it's not the money value of the drive plug, what bug me to post it is the ignorance of the seller. I sent multiple PM and phone text, no response.
Now I post it publicly and he came out to response.
I was offered the plug from a few members here, thanks guys but I am not going to accept any. I know most of people still use common senses, and keep their words. It's just the principle.

WTF? If it's not the money and not the parts, then why all the whiney drama? Why the name calling? Why the attempts to shame him amongst fishermen and friends here in public? Is it all butthurt because he ignores you when you nag him?

Seriously, what's your point? You have what you bought and it's not about the parts or money? Sheesh.

Nevermind. Rhetorical questions.

Maybe this will help:
https://youtu.be/1s3aVLf0MBw

Have a nice day :)

Go catch more fish.

[east county dirtbag]

Yo, who is talking about imaginary items?

I am referring to this (translation: its a physical item that will later be sent)

A physical item doesn't exist if it's not physically part of a cash sale

You are talking about car mats that should be included because you want them. Not sure why that argument was used but for the sake of this conversation, maybe you should suggest a used kayak service plan to the op. For next time. You guys clearly can't handle cash sales

[Dirty Curti]

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[jorluivil]

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[stevie951]

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Well damn we all knew fishing was slow but is lobster season a bust already too!?:eek::D:the_finger:

[Deamon]

Well damn we all knew fishing was slow but is lobster season a bust already too!?

You know it's slow when internet trolls lob out their bait...when boaters brag off lobster catches on a kayak site...but when a shit post gets almost twice as many responses than Chris' forty plus halibut...Damn shame.

[cell128]

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[ful-rac]

I say comment.

[east county dirtbag]

Hello, well this one time I came home from a hard day at work and decided to go fly my raptor 60 with 70H engine. When I got to the park there where these midgets trying to run after my helicopter, I walked about 50 yards away from them flying my heli towards me quickly and landed fast to pick it up. I didn't know it until I seen one of them come from my left side and the lil guy just jumped right on top of it. I called to police and they had an ambulance and 3 cop cars come out. They said he lost every finger and his nose was cut off as well. He lived. The cops said that they where called out to the park 2 other times for the midgets trying to attacked planes. I think this whole situation was way off key, hope they are in a mental hospital by now.

[Cbad Mike]

I'm way to mature to get sucked into commenti........
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Never mind :(

[summers in kuwait]

You know it's slow when internet trolls lob out their bait...when boaters brag off lobster catches on a kayak site...but when a shit post gets almost twice as many responses than Chris' forty plus halibut...Damn shame.

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