Ideas / Suggestions for downsizing from PA?

[alfsteur]

Hi y'all, apologize if this topic has been posted before!

I have a 2014 PA12 with upgraded turbo v2 fin with glide tech, this beast has a loaded weight of 130lb -140lb when fully rigged. Problem is this is starting to get too heavy & sluggish on the water for me, so want to check with BWE community for ideas or suggestions to lighten and/or downsizing from a PA12.

I'm looking for reducing overall loaded weight, and gain more maneuverability/speed if possible. So 2 questions:
1. What can i do to lighten the load by 20~30lb?
2. if downsizing, what do you suggest? I'm currently considering going back to a Hobie Outback... but that's still 100lb+ when fully loaded for YT fishing

Thanks in advance!
Alfsteur

[makobob]

Hi y'all, apologize if this topic has been posted before!

I have a 2014 PA12 with upgraded turbo v2 fin with glide tech, this beast has a loaded weight of 130lb -140lb when fully rigged. Problem is this is starting to get too heavy & sluggish on the water for me, so want to check with BWE community for ideas or suggestions to lighten and/or downsizing from a PA12.

I'm looking for reducing overall loaded weight, and gain more maneuverability/speed if possible. So 2 questions:
1. What can i do to lighten the load by 20~30lb?
2. if downsizing, what do you suggest? I'm currently considering going back to a Hobie Outback... but that's still 100lb+ when fully loaded for YT fishing

Thanks in advance!
Alfsteur


To reduce weight by 20-30 pounds get the extra tackle gone. If you carry the kitchen sink in your tackle box it adds up fast, reduce rods and reels, do you really need 4-5 outfits If so you will always overweight. DOWN SIZE. As to yak, most now approach 100#, and the OUTBACK is hard to beat now specically with the 180 drive. Fast, manurverable,and stable.

[ronbo613]

If you keep the PA 12, all you can really do is lose gear(or start Nutraslim). I have to carry my kayak and all the gear down a cliff, dark in the mornings, and back up after a day of fishing, so I've cut my stuff to the bare minimum. Believe me, you can shed a lot of gear.

[NICKWORN]

Hi y'all, apologize if this topic has been posted before!

I have a 2014 PA12 with upgraded turbo v2 fin with glide tech, this beast has a loaded weight of 130lb -140lb when fully rigged. Problem is this is starting to get too heavy & sluggish on the water for me, so want to check with BWE community for ideas or suggestions to lighten and/or downsizing from a PA12.

I'm looking for reducing overall loaded weight, and gain more maneuverability/speed if possible. So 2 questions:
1. What can i do to lighten the load by 20~30lb?
2. if downsizing, what do you suggest? I'm currently considering going back to a Hobie Outback... but that's still 100lb+ when fully loaded for YT fishing

Thanks in advance!
Alfsteur

Trade for my 2011 Outback! Bam problem solved!!!:cheers1:

[Orca Winfrey]

Or you can get a Revo.

[King Saba]

Still heavy if you bring 30lbs of crap

[Andy]

I went from the PA12 to a Revo. Downsize your bait tank to three gallons, only bring what you need.

[Orca Winfrey]

Still heavy if you bring 30lbs of crap

Ok fine!! I'll only bring 5 rods this weekend instead of my usual 7.

[flemdogg]

I am thinking of downsizing from a PA as well. Revo16 if I do.

[King Saba]

I went from the PA12 to a Revo. Downsize your bait tank to three gallons, only bring what you need.

3 gallons? What kind of bait tank do you have running?

[diedroid]

Slayer Propel 12LT seems pretty light.

http://nativewatercraft.com/product/slayer-propel-12-lt/

[King Saba]

Ok fine!! I'll only bring 5 rods this weekend instead of my usual 7.

lol that isn't the problem, it's the 30lbs of sinkers and plastics that you bring.

[Andy]

I use the smaller vitals dog food container. Holds enough bait for me.

[alfsteur]

Slayer Propel 12LT seems pretty light.

http://nativewatercraft.com/product/slayer-propel-12-lt/

Thanks for the suggestion, this looks really promising! Did consider Native boats before i jumped into a Hobie, but now I'm gonna to check OEX Mission Bay to see if they carry this! Anyone else has tried this boat?

[jorluivil]

You won't gain much speed by moving into a smaller kayak.

I went from an Outback to a PA 14 and despite the fact that the PA is larger and heavier it moves through the water better than my outback. Unless your average fishing trip is 15-20 miles+ I would suggest you stay with what you have and deal with it.

[Baja_Traveler]

Have to remember - speed comes at a price, and that's stability...

I love paddling my touring kayak, its faster than blazes, but I'd never try to reach behind me while doing it or I'd be brushing up on my Eskimo Roll technique!

[absentx]

I think you would love the outback.

Now, don't get me wrong - its a beast too - but in conjunction with the trailer I built for it and a bit of smart loading and unloading, I can usually minimize carrying or having to severely manhandle the thing.

Basically I am able to angle it off my trailer, slide it down at the landing/beach/lake whatever, and then just carry my stuff to it, push into the water and go.

Its a nice stable boat too. I flipped mine once and it was a very extreme circumstance. I ended up completely broadside in a river with about a four mph current and managed to hit one tiny log sticking above the surface right in the middle of the side of my hull, plus said log was pointing right at my angle of attack. This was 100% my fault as I let the boat get broadside...

[paddle man]

I BOUGHT A NEW P.A. 12 LAST YR USED IT 3 TIMES FOUND OUT THAT IT'S TO MUCH YAK FOR ME LOADIND & UNLOADING THIKING OF SELLING AND GETING OUTBACK WILL BE A LITTLE LIGHTER AND NOT AS WIDE GETING OLDER

[alfsteur]

Thanks y'all for the suggestions & input, I also talked to Fastlane not too long ago, they suggested hitting Fred Hall to see new yaks & possibly good deals... can't wait to see all the new toys that I cannot buy! :D

[jorluivil]

Thanks y'all for the suggestions & input, I also talked to Fastlane not too long ago, they suggested hitting Fred Hall to see new yaks & possibly good deals... can't wait to see all the new toys that I cannot buy! :D


That F word is NOT to be used in this site

[2-Stix]

revo 13 or outback.

[monstahfish]

If you really want to get faster and lighter go with the revo 13. If you want to just get lighter, get an outback. The PA has a surpisingly efficient hull design and a 14 is faster than an outback.

[goldenglory18]

If you really want to get faster and lighter go with the revo 13. If you want to just get lighter, get an outback. The PA has a surpisingly efficient hull design and a 14 is faster than an outback.

+1

I had a few buddies that I fished with back in AZ that floated on PA14's and those suckers were really quick for their size.

[jorluivil]

+1

I had a few buddies that I fished with back in AZ that floated on PA14's and those suckers were really quick for their size.

MY 14 moves just as fast in not faster than my Outback, I don't know why but it does.

[Baja_Traveler]

All else being equal, a longer boat is faster. My 17' touring kayak easily out distances my 12' touring kayak.

Here is a cool article on why that is:

http://engineering.mit.edu/ask/what-relationship-between-length-boat-and-its-maximum-speed

[YakDout]

Im also considering the revo 16.

[John M]

YakDout get your engineer buddy at Hobie to design a Revo 15. Just a little wider than the Revo 16 would be perfect speed/stable yak.

[alfsteur]

YakDout get your engineer buddy at Hobie to design a Revo 15. Just a little wider than the Revo 16 would be perfect speed/stable yak.

Since we're making requests for new features, I'd like to request Hobie to come up with an Outback or PA with a mini-MHD (MagnetoHydroDynamic) propulsion drive like the Red October... it'll be super quiet and able to go for miles! :D