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socalyaker556
08-18-2017, 08:09 PM
Just picked up a FF finally and installing on 2017 pa14. I have the hobie lowrance kit. Anyone have photos of how the hooked up the in line fuse??
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socalyaker556
08-18-2017, 08:11 PM
Im electronically stupid!
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YakDout
08-19-2017, 06:06 AM
You just crimp somewhere in between the battery and the head unit on the red wire.
YakDout
08-19-2017, 06:09 AM
Its so easy a caveman could do it
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170819/a20092e0b6c4247fc40483da0e32ad7c.jpg
Make sure to use shrink tubing. And solder it if you know how.
jorluivil
08-19-2017, 06:42 AM
I didn't use the inline fuse
makobob
08-19-2017, 07:20 AM
I didn't use the inline fuse
Please explain why you did not use one? Pros vs cons, thanks.
Mahigeer
08-19-2017, 07:21 AM
Don't feel bad. No one is born with knowledge. It is gained.
Click the link to a sample picture of a in-line fuse.
One line to battery positive, and other to the device. The fuse must be rated by the manufacturer to provide proper protection.
Unless you make a mistake of using different batteries with higher voltage rating, you really don't need fuse protection. Or if you charge the battery with device connected, thus the charger puts out higher voltage.
In saltwater environment, the less "exposed" connection points the better.
All of the connections should be sealed with shrink tube or plastic paste.
A dab of electrical grease at the monitor connection is recommended too.
https://www.delcity.net/store/AGC-Heavy!Duty-Inline-Fuse-Holders/p_800428.h_800429.r_IF3003?mkwid=fzuBTEqH&crid=11472933143&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20PLA's(BSC)&utm_term=1100315444331&utm_content=Ad%20group%20%231
I hope above helps.
Please explain why you did not use one? Pros vs cons, thanks.
Pros: if for some reason your fishfinder were to draw extra current, you could destroy it. A 3A fuse will prevent this as only the fuse will blow.
Cons:Extra connections that could fail or become loose. Also, if you are out on the water without a spare and the fuse blows you can't use the GPS unit at all.
Iceman
08-19-2017, 08:26 AM
use a heat shrink butt connector for the best sealed connection.
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/ancor--heat-shrink-butt-connector-16-14-wire-gauge-blue-3-qty-pkg--P009_275_004_003?pCode=291294&cm_mmc=PS-_-Google-_-GSC%2520-%2520Product%2520Type-_-291294&product_id=291294&adpos=1o3&creative=108421552324&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlq7hq9vj1QIVRRppCh0CGQhFEAYYAyAB EgIx3vD_BwE
socalyaker556
08-19-2017, 08:44 AM
I figired it out lastnight thanks guys... i had 2 different connectors that was mu biggest queation just wantes some input... im on the water and its working like a charm
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goldenglory18
08-19-2017, 09:31 AM
Without a fuse you can also run into a situation where the battery starts a fire.
Use a fuse, its 100% worth the extra connection.
jorluivil
08-19-2017, 09:39 AM
Please explain why you did not use one? Pros vs cons, thanks.
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alanw
08-20-2017, 10:24 AM
Recommended by Raymarine for my fishfinder is a thermal circuit breaker instead of a fuse. They are cheap even at West Marine and I like that if it ever trips I can reset it instead of being stuck on the water without a replacement fuse.
Orca Winfrey
08-20-2017, 11:57 AM
Without a fuse you can also run into a situation where the battery starts a fire.
Use a fuse, its 100% worth the extra connection.
But there's plenty of water to put it out!
socalyaker556
08-20-2017, 01:15 PM
Thank for all the feedback guys. Just dropped a shit ton of $ amd wanted to be %100 sure
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DavidT
08-20-2017, 03:16 PM
One of the main jobs of a fuse is to protect the wire.
From https://www.bluesea.com
https://www.bluesea.com/support/articles/Circuit_Protection/98/DC_Circuit_Protection
Electrical shorts are the number one cause of fires on boats. In fact, more than half of boat fires are electrical in origin. More than half of those are caused by short circuits, most in the DC circuits. If you add any circuits to your boat, make sure they are protected.
Important factors to consider when adding circuit protection to your boat’s DC electrical system include:
Ampere Interrupt Capacity (AIC)
Mounting location
Overcurrent protection (7/40/72 Rule)
Ignition protection
If more current flows in a wire than the wire is rated to handle, the wire can heat up, its protective insulation can melt, and the heated wire can start a fire. This overcurrent condition can occur, for example, when a short circuit occurs. Fuses and circuit breakers are used to limit the amount of current that flows through circuit wires. Except for those wires that are intended to carry starting currents, every positive wire in the DC main power distribution system must be protected by a fuse or circuit breaker.
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