Summer YAK Shark trip!

[Dave I.]

Guys( and gals) I have been thinking about trying to catch a shark from my yak now for weeks. I know that this is slightly more that average danger rating, especially for a single yakker. So i figured i should as you guys if anyone else was interested. Make a day of it. maybe get someone with a boat to go with use to be a base station. paddle/peddle out a mile or 2, through a chum bucket attached to a float, wait and see what comes up.

This my first-time trying to set something like this up, so i have only a small idea of the logistics involved, but i am smart enough to ask you guys for help and participation.

I am thinking, mid to late May.




Dave

[nmbrinkman]

The T's will be in soon enough. Troll a Rapala and there's a good chance you'll get lucky... Who knows what else you'll pull in on it.

[tylerdurden]

If you really want to catch a shark and don't care what kind, just fish for halibut :doh: . Leopards, angel sharks, shovelnose, batrays, anything but halibut will hit.

I would be very careful chumming for sharks from a kayak. Catching T sharks is easy when they are around, you don't need to chum. A mac or a plug dragged around will get them. Just be careful if you hook one in the tail with a plug. Don't get bitch slapped and keep the hook out of your own body.

Makos are a whole different problem entirely. I've reeled in two small ones to the kayak, and seen a few more closer than I would like. Not cool. Anything over about 50# can get scary fast. They like to chew on things, like swimsteps, kayaks, or whatever happens to be near them. They often charge the boat to see what hooked them. When there is chum in the water they get excited and will chew on anything.

Both species tend to jump. Let them run when they are green so they aren't jumping near you.

[nmbrinkman]

Both species tend to jump. Let them run when they are green so they aren't jumping near you.

Have somebody with a camera ready as well.:D



Also a sharp knife and rope are essentials too.

[Handymansd]

I'll go! When, where, and do you have a shark suit I can borrow?:cool: A cage maybe?

Seriously, I'll go! :withstupid: It sounds like fun...Extreme fishing! I also want a bill fish when I have the Moolah and time to go.

[madscientist]

Troll rapalas at sunset for the next few months and you will hook more pup makos than you ever wanted. Use a wire leader or it'll get expensive. Or, as the other guys said, just wait for the T's to get here. Dead squid or sardine on the bottom near the kelp can get you a soupfin or smooth hound.

[Dave I.]

Really looking for a 100+lb Thresher or a Mako, Since i have never caught either, i asked for help, seriously, i won't try this by myself.

So trolling a rapala outside the kelp, huh? Which rapala, magnums or saltwater X-raps?

Dave

[JrBasser]

the magnum will be much more heavy duty. A rapala magnum cd-14 in blue mac has been my money bait for many different species.

A Knife is ESSENTIAL, but as Brinkman will tell you, it doesnt have to be too sharp ;-)

I'd be down to go. About a month or two more and the pup T's will be infesting LJ. Hopefully. I'd say your safest bet for a 100 pound shark would be a thresher. They have that tail, but a much smaller mouth and less teeth to worry about, as well as a little tamer. Use about 40, 50 pound line, a heavy duty swivel, 100 pound floro leader crimped to the swivel and a large hook with a big mac on it. Too many smaller sharks will grab the rapala first. Not to say a big one won't grab it, but you get the idea. put a couple slashes in the macs sides to get a blood trail goin and have fun.

[SHARK BAIT]

IM IN!! TIME PLACE?
:paddleersmilie:

[Minix008]

Id like to troll around sunset where specifically could i launch out to catch some pup threshers for fun. Where in sunset should i troll and how far out?:D ill probably be on my skiff since my kayak might be sold by then or ill rent one. Any comments appreciated

Nick:paddleersmilie:

[Dave I.]

First date will be late May,
23,24,30 or 31. Friday afternoons or all day saturdays. I need another week or two for schedule lock down.

I also want to make sure i know exact what i'm supposed to do when i finally hook into a big fish. I like my fingers, arms and muscle mass right were it is, no mistakes.


Dave

[FISHIONADO]

Very ambitious, you are smart to ask for help. Could be similar to learning to ride a bicycle in the fast lane of the freeway. Be careful out there and good luck.

[tylerdurden]

I like my fingers, arms and muscle mass right were it is, no mistakes.


Dave

Then I would not try and keep a mako on a kayak, period. I don't think I phrased it strongly enough the first time. Afishianados comment is right on.

Mako sharks are unpredictable and scary on a boat. Mako sharks from the kayak are even worse. They like to chew on things, even while hooked. I'm sure if you google it you can find images of of boats with makos chewing on the boat, swimstep, motor, or chumbags.

The risk reward ratio is a little off for keeping any mako over pup size. Not saying it can't be done in a safe way, but is it worth it? I leave makos to boaters.

One of the more famous pics of a mako jumping:
http://www.riverandreef.com/content_images/jump.jpg


This one tried to chew on Tmans boat before he cut it free.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/538/IMG_2189.JPG

This one ripped the dehooking device out of my hands a couple times trying to get my iron back. I thought it might lunge or jump into the boat. It was scary and this one was only ~50#.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/538/IMG_3151.JPG


This one was only about 8#, I felt I could have kept it without getting hurt, but what's the point of keeping one this small.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/536/IMG_3394.JPG

[esdees]

Threshers are easy to deal with because they wear themselves out during the fight. When fighting, landing, and releasing threshers, I've never had a problem or felt like I was in any danger. They do jump, but only early in the fight.

Makos are a very different story. They seem to go wherever they are pulled, meaning they come straight to you when you hook them and they don't wear themselves out. When I used a bait tube, makos would come out of nowhere and start chewing on it (this happened at least three times). They also like to jump, but sporadically.

I've only hooked one hammerhead and that was the best fight I've ever had from a kayak. That's the only time that I've ever needed to splash water on my reel to cool it off (except for that one sealion, but those don't count).

If you end up catching a big shark, I would recommend that you release it. There is only so much weight you can carry on a kayak and you will NOT be able to drag it behind you (keyword: drag), unless you don't mind going half a mile an hour (or less). Makos and threshers are tasty. I've never tried them, but blues and hammerheads are supposed to be bad. I don't know about the other sharks.

Good luck. I'll make at least one shark trip this year.

[Dave I.]

tylerdurden, thanks for the pics! AND the extra healthy respect for mako's. If we have a boat with us, I would like to keep a big one, but if not pics of the fight and a release is good for me. I do want a keepable T for dinner though.

Again thanks for the input.

Dave

[LITTLE_NEMO]

Well I am in just let me know the time and date

[madscientist]

I think catching a shark from the yak is something everyone needs to get out of their system at least once, but it is kind of a letdown. It sounds so exciting but the reality is often pretty boring. A big YT will give you a much more exciting fight. Mouth hooked T's tend to come right to the boat and then just dog you. Tail hooked T's tow until they die, then you have to lever them up from the bottom.

Tyler said all that needs to be said about makos. They are pure evil. I love and respect those fish. Even with the utmost care it is a risky proposition. If you have a support boat you might as well just fish from it and save yourself the hassle. LJ is obviously a nursery for makos and I personally don't like to target the pups, though I will toss an iron at one if I see it.

The most exciting shark hookups I've had have come when I wasn't trying for them. Spend enough time fishing LJ for YT and you will get into a shark or two.
http://www.bloodydecks.com/gallery/files/4/7/3/0/IMG_2762.JPG

[lamb]

that pic that Tyler took os probably one of the coolest of all times.

Sharks?

No thanks.

[Minix008]

i usually fish out of alamitos, is there any thresers around that area not too far of a paddle?

[Handymansd]

that pic that Tyler took os probably one of the coolest of all times.

I think my favorite pic is of Brad w/ thresher on & w/ hot dogs on... the 4th of july?

Classic!

[madscientist]

you mean this one:

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r203/evilclone619/IMG_3052.jpg

It's tough to cook and fight T's at the same time, even if they are small. :)
I think that was the day 7 of us had 20+ sharks between us.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=2242

[dorf]

Great pic Brad.
That grill looks cool.
Is that a market grill or something you came up with on your own?
The smell must have driven the other guys crazy.

[cabojohn]

kewl pics
I just saw "Air Jaws" last night...:eek:

sharks from kayaks = :stupid:

[dgax65]

This happened yesterday in KwaZuluNatal

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2299691,00.html

After seeing what a mako will do to an outdrive unit, I wouldn't want to bring one alongside a yak.

[slanteyedtuna]

I am a noob and I plan to start fishing for the T's soon. I was wondering at what dept range and months do most of you catch your T's? I plan on fishing the Malibu area.

[Slay Rider]

Over the years - from the decks of our yaks - my friends and I have killed a shark or two - most brands you just let tow you until the life slowly drains out of them but the mako is evil to the core and must be dealt with as such.

If you are a hunter and or military, bring along a pistol caliber suited for harvesting big game or killing enemy combatants - when he makes that first pass - shoot to kill or be prepared to be killed.

Like most things in life - it’s just that complicated and it’s that simple.

[Tailwhipped]

I'm not sure of our state law on firing a weapon from a boat/kayak so I only use pepper spray. It would be a blast to fish makos from the yak but I need my life to support my fishing habits. Good luck and be safe!
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/Tailwhipped/100_1071.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff239/Tailwhipped/100_1067.jpg

[Dave I.]

I'm convinced that if i hook up to a mako, i am cutting the line ASAP. I will only keep fighting a T.


Dave

[herefishyfishy!]

So I walk into Turners Outdoorsman and what do they have playing on the tv? The Threshers on Kayak video featuring "Rhyno", the one where the guy gets the Rapala sunk into his chin.

I bought a brand new shiny blue mack CDMAG-18. :o

By the way, Im in...

Evan

PS That is the raddest picture Ive ever seen madscientist, you are my idol :notworthy: :notworthy:

[Dave I.]

Friday afternoon to evening 23 or Saturday all day 24 May. Lets get a consensus on this both days are good for me.

If we do it on friday, i want to make sure that every one buddies up and we all have lights just in case a fight carries in the dark. Launch between 3:30 and 4:00 till we all get tired of trolling.

Saturday, I don't know should we do it late, all day, or evening. Stilll want everyone to buddy up, that way we all have assistance landing the big one when we get it.


I would still like some one in a boat if possible, to help haul fish and be a spotter in case someone is getting towed deep.



Also, would anyone be interested in gentleman's wager, in the pot, refund for no fish caught or biggest yak eater caught payout?


Have fun on the water this week end.

Dave

[SHARK BAIT]

i usually fish out of alamitos, is there any thresers around that area not too far of a paddle?
long beach or malibu in about a month

[Dave I.]

Me!
Handymansd
JrBasser
SHARK BAIT
Little Nemo
herefishyfishyfishy!
METALBOB!

As of right now, it is still on.
Does anyone have a preference on the Friday/Saturday issue?

Looking forward to the get meeting some of you guys.


Dave

[metalbob]

im game....


METALBOB

[TheSherThang]

I would be down for this but I'll be in Asia the 24th. Take some pics and I'll catch the next trip out.