NPH Coast Gaurd Launch Fines! [Archive] - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

jbl_91762

06-25-2018, 07:20 AM

My buddy just text me that Sheriffs will now enforce no Kayak launch zone at the CG station with a $500 fine. That totally sucks as for me it was the easiest launch area with wash down lol. He also said the beach launch at the end of the same street may not be legal now also. Can others chime in on what you've heard? Other launch sites? Id rather not drive to other side of Balboa if possible. This sucks.

wiredantz

06-25-2018, 07:41 AM

Interesting...

I wonder what rule they are trying to enforce now...
And now they are prohibiting us from using the beach.

I found this :

http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/NewportBeach/frameless/index.pl?path=../html/NewportBeach17/NewportBeach1720.html#17.20

goldenglory18

06-25-2018, 07:56 AM

Neil Patrick Harris has his own coast guard station? That's bad-ass!!!

Iceman

06-25-2018, 08:08 AM

That is very odd as they are set up to store and launch outriggers. Sure it is not referring to the parking lot hours.

Orca Winfrey

06-25-2018, 08:20 AM

Neil Patrick Harris has his own coast guard station? That's bad-ass!!!

:p

DPevin

06-25-2018, 10:10 AM

Might have to give them a call and get it straight from the horses mouth. Like what was already said, maybe they are just going to crack down and enforce the no parking before 6AM thing.

Mahigeer

06-25-2018, 01:15 PM

$500.00 for parking ticket? I don't think so.

This is not the first time that residents tried to get rid of anglers in Newport Beach.

They just don't want people like us bring their property value down by going there.

jbl_91762

06-25-2018, 01:46 PM

So I did call the Newport Sheriff office and they said yes that it is no longer allowed and there are new signs posted. However they said their waiting on city enforcement agency to give green light as to when to start handing out citations. So good luck if you decide to take a chance and park there. I was directed to visit the Newport Municipal website to find legal locations.

ful-rac

06-25-2018, 02:08 PM

What the Hell kinda BS is this?!

Where are kayakers supposed to launch from now?

wiredantz

06-25-2018, 02:16 PM

I visited the city website... and I couldn't find ONE SINGLE EMAIL ADDRESS...

I wanted to have written proof of where the City has allowed Kayak to launch their kayaks....

DPevin

06-25-2018, 02:47 PM

probably all the fucking snooty outrigger rowing club types complaining about us taking up their parking spots.

If they are no longer allowing kayaks to launch from the coast guard station but continue to allow the outrigger stuff that is gonna be some bullshit.

This is still a little unclear. Is parking no longer allowed, or is it launching a kayak all together. If its just that you can't park there, maybe we can just park on the street and still launch.

jbl_91762

06-25-2018, 03:19 PM

probably all the fucking snooty outrigger rowing club types complaining about us taking up their parking spots.

If they are no longer allowing kayaks to launch from the coast guard station but continue to allow the outrigger stuff that is gonna be some bullshit.

This is still a little unclear. Is parking no longer allowed, or is it launching a kayak all together. If its just that you can't park there, maybe we can just park on the street and still launch.

Agree with all you said! I'll be out there this Saturday and will scope it out, but Im not gonna park and launch there, going to B Island to launch. I bet its the owners of those homes right there that complain. They should ban non residents then to enjoy that beach!!!

alanw

06-25-2018, 03:20 PM

Wow no launching from public property, no launching before 8am, no using wheels even on the beaches, no crossing of sidewalks, this is some anti-kayak shit!

wiredantz

06-25-2018, 03:35 PM

Sent to: recreation@newportbeachca.gov

Hello,

I wanted to find out where I can get a map/ directory of all the place I can launch a kayak in New Port Harbor legally . I just got off the phone with the coast guard station because they will soon start enforcing a $500 fine for launching a kayak at the coast guard station beach (image attached) Kayakers have always enjoyed the freedom of been able to access the beach to launch our kayaks into the Pacific Ocean. Now we feel, that the city is discriminating against us and are going to take us to court for trying to use the beach to launch our kayaks.

Please let us know.... we have a community of over 5000 members that actively use the beaches in southern California.

Will post reply if I get one

Iceman

06-25-2018, 03:43 PM

Wow, that does suck!

Orca Winfrey

06-25-2018, 05:21 PM

probably all the fucking snooty outrigger rowing club types complaining about us taking up their parking spots.

If they are no longer allowing kayaks to launch from the coast guard station but continue to allow the outrigger stuff that is gonna be some bullshit.

This is still a little unclear. Is parking no longer allowed, or is it launching a kayak all together. If its just that you can't park there, maybe we can just park on the street and still launch.

Money = Privilege

Amish Ed

06-25-2018, 05:49 PM

This blows me away. I've had cops come talk to me before when launching on the peninsula, home owner complained I was breaking into cars. Based on everything posted there will be few if any spots for us to launch. I wonder, is a float tube considered a vessel? What about a paddleboard?

Stuck20

06-25-2018, 06:14 PM

Unbelievable. Newport was my (and I'm sure others') favorite fishery. Very disappointing.

Raskal311

06-25-2018, 09:55 PM

First they limit you then they'll take it away all tougher. This is so sad....

Zed

06-25-2018, 10:10 PM

Remember dropping your kayak on a beach and paddling out? Doesnt seem that long ago.

newportdogs

06-26-2018, 12:12 AM

I live in Newport Beach and have been launching there for 8 years. This is clearly money talking, total BS. There are many kayakers launching there, not just those who fish. Here are the hand carried boat launch sites as of today from the city website. Notice launch site 39, OCHD Boat Docks, that’s the docks next to the beach. I will be taking this map down to the Coast Guard Station this week to confirm whether or not 39 still exists and what it means. Parking can’t be the issue, you can park on the street.

After I confirm what’s going on I’m looking forward to discussing this with my city councilman, Duffy Duffield. The last time I tried to contact him it was crickets, he’s worthless. Too busy selling Duffy boats.

http://www.newportbeachca.gov/home/showdocument?id=1269

wiredantz

06-26-2018, 07:15 AM

The city of Newport Beach e-mailed me back.... I'm going to try to get an address and name so I can start documenting:

Good morning Frank,

Our Dock Master would be the person that you will want to speak to regarding kayak launching in Newport Beach. They will be able to further assist and let you know where it is permitted.

They can be reached at 949-270-8159.

Thank you.

stevie951

06-26-2018, 09:26 AM

Contact the news stations.. If they can't do anything we sure can't..

I wrote KTLA, ABC7, CBS4, and Fox 11...

KTLA 5: http://ktla.com/2014/06/13/send-ktla-5-news-a-story-idea/

Fox 11: fox11news@foxtv.com .. To the attn. of Lisseth

ABC7: http://abc7.com/news/submit-news-tips/27721/

CBS4: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/have-a-news-tip/

THIS IS CRAP!

Hopefully there is some resolve in favor of us fisherman because yeah, seems we are being squeezed of every last little resource available to us unless you are willing to pay the fees and taxes for running a large boat/operation..

ful-rac

06-26-2018, 09:45 AM

One by one our access to launching locations are restricted and or taken away...I get a bad feeling redondo is next with the city's stupid insane waterfront project. Kayakers are definitely not welcome...

DPevin

06-26-2018, 09:58 AM

This is so dumb and makes no sense. Perfectly good place to launch a kayak and park and not bother anyone or be in the way. Now what? we are going to have to go to the island or peninsula and add to the already horrendous parking and traffic situations there?

Sure would have been nice of them to put this out there before deciding on it so that we could have a say...

DPevin

06-26-2018, 10:02 AM

I live in Newport Beach and have been launching there for 8 years. This is clearly money talking, total BS. There are many kayakers launching there, not just those who fish. Here are the hand carried boat launch sites as of today from the city website. Notice launch site 39, OCHD Boat Docks, that’s the docks next to the beach. I will be taking this map down to the Coast Guard Station this week to confirm whether or not 39 still exists and what it means. Parking can’t be the issue, you can park on the street.

After I confirm what’s going on I’m looking forward to discussing this with my city councilman, Duffy Duffield. The last time I tried to contact him it was crickets, he’s worthless. Too busy selling Duffy boats.

http://www.newportbeachca.gov/home/showdocument?id=1269


That map is from 2001...

Zed

06-26-2018, 10:03 AM

Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.

Silbaugh4liberty

06-26-2018, 10:05 AM

I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

CASE DISMISSED!

Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about.

wiredantz

06-26-2018, 10:22 AM

I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

CASE DISMISSED!

Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about.

You are right...

These Municipal Codes are statutory rule violations.
There are no injured partys.
You are correct… these are statutory regulations and police can cite you on statutory regulations, it is their job.
What they do is against our Constitutional Rights because there is no injured partys for them to take us to court and there is no written contract.

But if you get a ticket… you still need to spend your personal time/money preparing for the court… writing a Demur on why the court should not hear the case…. Write in for Judicial Notice and Discovery and Brady Request… It’s a lot of non-paid time … for the harassment we receive….

The officer can just write the ticket and then get paid for showing up to court… not knowing anything but what statue was broken, There is no crime without the rule….

That given said… I can probably assume most kayakers live check to check.. they are not going to take the time to fight these regulations and so these Large City just Trample over them.

Kayaking and traveling by water way is so old that it has Been our right since the birth of time…. But now they want to subject us to their laws by making us sign a Boater card license and take a class….

Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?

stevie951

06-26-2018, 10:28 AM

You are right...

Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?

If it is private, then the same rules and regs need to be applied to those outriggers and their owners.. :confused: Like you said, our rights are being trampled on, and it is upon us to stand up for them..

jorluivil

06-26-2018, 10:50 AM

I wish i had admin rights to close threads but not all of them though, just the ones that Frank is on

Ggiannig89

06-26-2018, 11:24 AM

It might be a good idea to contact fish and wildlife. Access is a big part of keeping fisherman fishing. Less Fishing license sold means lower budget for fish and wildlife. There’s a direct bill from the federal government that provides grants to building ramps, docks, and launches to provide access. I don’t recall this grant but a fish and wildlife manager might be familiar.

UlaHei

06-26-2018, 12:58 PM

I launched from there this past Saturday, June 23. It was business as usual, no signs warning of any impending changes. There were a 9 or 10 kayak fishers in the basin that morning. I assume most launched from the CG beach. Now what are we going to do?
Yeah it's probably are the Newport Harbor resident snobs. They don't want anybody else parking on their streets, using the public access sand between their houses, or even be on the water unless you own a house with a dock. They didn't want the white seasbass growout pen in the harbor. They are constantly trying to shut down the bait receiver operation. They tried to ban fishing on both piers. I even heard that some residents on the peninsula were painting their curb red themselves to keep people from parking. What is wrong with these people?

fourtogo

06-26-2018, 01:17 PM

I think I will contact the ADA about this . This a restriction of access for handicapped. 8-8 restriction is going kill a lot business in the bay . This sounds just like Malibu and NIMBYS . BEACHES ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY. If rowers are using this beach . They are going have to show they ether own it or they have the only access permission . Which would go against public access codes .

Silbaugh4liberty

06-26-2018, 01:33 PM

I think I will contact the ADA about this . This a restriction of access for handicapped. 8-8 restriction is going kill a lot business in the bay . This sounds just like Malibu and NIMBYS . BEACHES ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY. If rowers are using this beach . They are going have to show they ether own it or they have the only access permission . Which would go against public access codes .

I guess these "Sovereign Citizen Cops" think they're above the law!!! Please see below.....

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from
the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting
upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the
State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the
people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be
passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public
lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water
containing fish that have been planted therein by the State;
provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish
may be taken.

:reeling::jig::paddleersmilie:

fourtogo

06-26-2018, 01:42 PM

Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.

Zed you got to be kidding , in my boat at 5mph up to the CC area would take a hour easy .

steve999

06-26-2018, 02:01 PM

In the link to the city website, did you notice this clause:

"No trailers, dollies, rollers or other mechanical devices may be used for purposes of launching any vessel or watercraft at such locations, or for transporting them on beaches."

So even at the legal locations, they won't allow kayaks that use wheels, which is pretty much everybody.

This sounds like something the California coastal commission should be involved in. They have been eliminating local ordinances that restrict access to the ocean for years.

wiredantz

06-26-2018, 02:03 PM

I work in the city's Harbor division. I would be happy to answer your questions if you would like to give me a call 949-718-3429.

Thank You,
Jessica D. Allen

The City of Newport Beach

1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663
949-718-3429 | jdallen@newportbeachca.gov

vmjchen

06-26-2018, 02:11 PM

Was there on Sunday along with other kayakers, float tubers, we were all approached by a sheriff who informed us that we can no longer launch our vessels there. Vessels would include kayaks, outriggers, paddle boards, and float tubes. He told us the “no launching of vessels” rule has been in existence, it was just never enforced. The new lieutenant now in charge wants the law enforced because of complaints from other agency such as the harbor patrol and the coast guard who operate out of there about how crowded the parking has become affecting there ability to conduct businesses. He could not provide us with a different location to launch from. The parking rules will not change. If you are caught launching a “vessel” the fine will be $500.

wiredantz

06-26-2018, 02:42 PM

Hello,

This is actually county enforced at that beach- it is a county beach and county tidelands. I called them this morning and they spoke with their leaders. They informed me that a sticker would be placed over the part of the sign that says no launching and they would not be issuing citations. This should rectify the issue for you.

There is no commission meeting that this was discussed at on a city level as this is a county issue.

If you have further questions, please feel free to give the county dispatch a call at 949-723-1002.

If you have city related questions, please feel free to give me a call directly 949-718-3429.

Thank You,

Jessica D. Allen
The City of Newport Beach
1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663
949-718-3429 | jdallen@newportbeachca.gov

Jessica Allen Work in the Harbor Division for the City of Newport

ultimatejay

06-26-2018, 04:03 PM

Good news, thank you!

TheBentRod

06-26-2018, 04:31 PM

I wish i had admin rights to close threads but not all of them though, just the ones that Frank is on

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

DPevin

06-26-2018, 05:17 PM

Sounds like some conflicting information...

blitzburgh

06-26-2018, 05:29 PM

Jeezuss this better not be true. I will be contacting all of the avenues provided in this thread. :mad:

jorluivil

06-26-2018, 05:50 PM

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

I'd still close it just because it's my buddy Frank:cheers:

makobob

06-26-2018, 06:01 PM

Remember dropping your kayak on a beach and paddling out? Doesnt seem that long ago.

Heck ZED, I think I will follow your dad to MEXICO where none of this shit is going on. BTW your dad won the halibut tournament again this year, with
GULP again on the neclear chicken. Tight lines amigo.

fourtogo

06-26-2018, 06:18 PM

So what’s answer on this beach , can kayaks launch here . Will this no Dolly deal be a ticket issue .

TheBentRod

06-26-2018, 06:23 PM

I'd still close it just because it's my buddy Frank:cheers:

[emoji23]

Zed

06-26-2018, 09:00 PM

Zed you got to be kidding , in my boat at 5mph up to the CC area would take a hour easy .

Yeah sarcasm. I italiciZed only. When I was trying to read up on this I came across that stat. It seemed real low re a kayak for sure.

Zed

06-26-2018, 09:05 PM

Heck ZED, I think I will follow your dad to MEXICO where none of this shit is going on. BTW your dad won the halibut tournament again this year, with
GULP again on the neclear chicken. Tight lines amigo.
I heard! Glad you made it down.

Harry Hill

06-26-2018, 09:56 PM

okay, I read it to mean we will not be fined to launch at the CC beach. Will the mess with us for using the walkway? I only get there a couple of times a year but I don't want to pay $500 for the right to fish there.

easyday

06-26-2018, 10:15 PM

Wtf this is some crap. It’s public property!

stevie951

06-26-2018, 10:17 PM

Should be business as usual...

City can not impose restrictions on county beaches.

State
County
City

Frank, never met you but thanks amigo por la persistencia! I wonder if any of us had any thing to do with that recent decision and comment.. time will tell, at this point at least we know not to bother with the hello and goodbye to the CG people and or the sphincter homeowners.. assholes lmao..:confused: :the_finger:

easyday

06-26-2018, 10:21 PM

Looks like I’m going to have to go get myself a ticket and fight it in court!

stevie951

06-26-2018, 11:07 PM

& if you don't know, now you know.. :the_finger:

fourtogo

06-27-2018, 01:30 AM

So,how did this info get to this point .

DPevin

06-27-2018, 07:25 AM

Hello,

This is actually county enforced at that beach- it is a county beach and county tidelands. I called them this morning and they spoke with their leaders. They informed me that a sticker would be placed over the part of the sign that says no launching and they would not be issuing citations. This should rectify the issue for you.

There is no commission meeting that this was discussed at on a city level as this is a county issue.

If you have further questions, please feel free to give the county dispatch a call at 949-723-1002.

If you have city related questions, please feel free to give me a call directly 949-718-3429.

Thank You,

Jessica D. Allen
The City of Newport Beach
1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663
949-718-3429 | jdallen@newportbeachca.gov

Jessica Allen Work in the Harbor Division for the City of Newport

The only problem I see with this is that the sheriff is county law enforcement. And a previous post stated that the deputy said their new lieutenant was the one that wanted to enforce it. So sounds like county would be the ones enforcing it at that case.

But it sounds like she talked to the county and the decided to not enforce it? Maybe enough people called and complained about it.

Silbaugh4liberty

06-27-2018, 08:31 AM

Looks like I’m going to have to go get myself a ticket and fight it in court!

If you do, let me know. I got some paperwork that you'll need to file before that court date. I've learned that you can say whatever you want in court and it doesn't have any teeth until you have your docs on the record. EVEN THEN, the shady ass fake judges (commissioners) try to IGNORE it. Crazy! Just proof that the courts (superior courts/kangarroo courts), are only for generating revenue to pay for the judges/cops/court employees. There's no money in prosecuting real criminals unfortunately.

On a POSITIVE note, I personally know (dinners and vacations with our families type know), the former DA at the federal courthouse in Santa Ana, and that's were the REAL justice happens. He's prosecuted MS13 gang members, and most recently a few corrupt politicians locally here in OC. So I still have little bit of faith in our system. It just needs to be heavily revised back to our Constitutional roots, meaning eliminating "Statutory/Commercial Crimes", which didn't exist prior to the last Reorganization of the United States (Corporation) 1938, after our second bankruptcy in this country.

NO VICTIM, NO CRIME!! <--- says the Supreme Court!!

:cheers1:

WARRIORMIKE

06-27-2018, 09:13 AM

The only problem I see with this is that the sheriff is county law enforcement. And a previous post stated that the deputy said their new lieutenant was the one that wanted to enforce it. So sounds like county would be the ones enforcing it at that case.

But it sounds like she talked to the county and the decided to not enforce it? Maybe enough people called and complained about it.

So just to be clear. Are we, as a kayak community still able to launch at the Coast Guard Station?

wiredantz

06-27-2018, 10:15 AM

So just to be clear. Are we, as a kayak community still able to launch at the Coast Guard Station?

Your asking for an answer that is definitive:

Here is the best answer I can give you.

Yes, you can launch and Yes you can get a ticket, until the signs are covered up is my personal opinion.

If they issue a citation, the law and proof is in our favor. I would just ask the officer to get in touch with his commanding officer just in case their is some miscommunication.

I don't put it past any of the resident(s) to pull down the stickers posted on the signs after they have been placed.

jruiz

06-27-2018, 12:31 PM

So is Frank a hero or not?

Ljs089

06-27-2018, 12:39 PM

I was at the launch all day yesterday 6/26/2018 a day that should have been enforced according to the guys posting on this topic.

I didn't see any warning signs, i see some Coasties when first parking and they saw me, nothing was said. I stayed until night time 8pm, no one was left at Newport harbor but me and a friend, we washed our kayaks and had multiple sheriffs pass us by all day and including when landing our kayaks and washing them, nothing was ever said.

So i don't really believe this topic, pictures or no proof. Otherwise it doesn't matter to me because i'm going to keep going unless there's a warning sign, there was none.

Ljs089

06-27-2018, 03:36 PM

A friend of mine spoke to the Harbor Master today, apparently a sign was left out saying there will be a fine etc. etc. turns out the police, the harbor master, Coast Guards, nobody knows who put that sign up.

Anyways the sign has been taken down, if i was to guess it's either one of the people who live at that beach access, or another kayak fisherman being selfish as hell, seeing a lot more of new up and coming kayaks and they still want the spot exclusively like how it may have been years ago.

What are your guys's guesses?

Silbaugh4liberty

06-27-2018, 03:45 PM

A friend of mine spoke to the Harbor Master today, apparently a sign was left out saying there will be a fine etc. etc. turns out the police, the harbor master, Coast Guards, nobody knows who put that sign up.

Anyways the sign has been taken down, if i was to guess it's either one of the people who live at that beach access, or another kayak fisherman being selfish as hell, seeing a lot more of new up and coming kayaks and they still want the spot exclusively like how it may have been years ago.

What are your guys's guesses?

Nice! Nothing to worry about then! I've met a few guys at Kiddy beach the last couple times just fishing from the pier or jetty's and told them about the Coast Guard station for launching. I was feeling bad when I first saw the post (not wanting to give newbies bad advice or cause them to get a fine). I'm not worried either way, I was gonna launch regardless.

My money is on some tight ass who lives there did it. I doubt fishermen would go through those lengths to protect a spot. Thanks for the update!!:you_rock::cheers1::reeling:

Silbaugh4liberty

06-27-2018, 03:49 PM

What do you have to say about Frank now Jorge?

Is that Stan? Better watch out, I'm gonna bump into your kayak next time on the water!! LOL, JK

BTW, hopefully Rich left us some lings at that spot!! :cheers1:

fourtogo

06-27-2018, 06:05 PM

That’s better , the place I walk my Dog >> part my Moms complex . Some jerk put sign up all official looking . Says this a area with West Nile misquotes keep out . The problem is with people aren’t wanting to share . Ether home owners or who ever .

Raskal311

06-27-2018, 06:42 PM

Rich assholes putting out fake signs to drive people away is nothing new.

DPevin

06-28-2018, 05:40 AM

My money would be more on the outrigger folks.

The homeowners don't make as much sense. We are parking in a parking lot for the most part, and it's not like we are making a ton of noise at 6 am.

Seems more likely to me that the outrigger folks don't like a few spots already taken up by the time they get there in the morning by those of us leaving early to fish. I typically hit it early and launch at 6 and will be back by 10 or so to get home to the family on weekends. The lot is always a mess when im loading my kayak back up.

This whole things is confusing though considering pretty detailed reports of people actually talking to sheriffs and city/county folks who acknowledged they were looking to hand out citations. Maybe that was the plan and when they got a little push back they are trying to play it off like they had nothing to do with it?

Either way...just keep launching.

TheBentRod

06-28-2018, 12:53 PM

Is that Stan? Better watch out, I'm gonna bump into your kayak next time on the water!! LOL, JK

I thought with all of your yard sales I would not see you in my area again. And they are all gone. They have moved to the many other spots.

fourtogo

06-29-2018, 01:50 AM

My wife like to get lunch at Gary’s on PCH . So I thought what the heck . We drive down back side . So I can have a look for this signage . Walked out and looked around for the no kayak launching sign didn’t see any sign . Took the ferry across the bay . Had a look around on peninsula side LOTS OF NO THIS AND NO THAT signs everywhere. Seems like every street had NO HAND LAUNCH SIGN that met the bay . Such friendly place as long as you are part of the not part of the sign problem . But they do have stake out tie ups all over the bay kinda condictory .

nmeofun

06-30-2018, 03:21 PM

I wouldn't put it past the outrigger guys. I sometimes launch at Lower Castaways Park (Dover / SR-1) when I take my kid out and only fish the harbor. When they opened that park, they put a porta-potty at both ends of the park (one right near the launch). Last summer they "Newport Outrigger Club" moved all their boats and gear to the south end of the park next to the launch. They coned off their gear and put a padlock on the porta-potty. The first time it happened my buddy, a retired NBPD cop, called the Park Patrol and got him to cut the lock. Park Patrol said they club lost there space on the other side of the harbor near Southwind, so the city gave them the park space to park their crap. Couple of weeks later, lock was back on the porta-potty. Park Patrol was called and he said he was told not to cut the lock. M buddy pitched a pretty good bitch about it and ultimately the porta-potty was removed which left just one on the opposite side of the park; unlocked. My point, I think, is that some of these outrigger folks appear to have some juice with someone at the city (Park Patrol denied my request to store my RV next to the outriggers). It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they tried to pull shenanigans with a sign followed by demands to enforce it.

fourtogo

06-30-2018, 05:52 PM

I park on the street roll my kayak to beach . I usually fish by my self , actually only run in to another kayaker fisherman once and paddler one other time . I don’t want have just skip on down the Coast too fish South Bay .

jbl_91762

07-01-2018, 07:12 AM

Launched no signs no problems 6/30. I am starting to agree with some that its probably the snooty riggers. Very few say hi or acknowledge you with a simple hello or smile. wait then again there are some kayak fisherman that are the same. LMAO. But oh well at least its safe to park there.

Raskal311

07-01-2018, 09:46 AM

It could also be the stations employees, I had a run in with one of them not long ago. Hr yelled at me for driving pass the public parking area to unload my kayak next to the gate to the beach. Seemed like he had issues with kayakers and he took the opertunity and took it out on me.

jbl_91762

07-01-2018, 03:51 PM

It could also be the stations employees, I had a run in with one of them not long ago. Hr yelled at me for driving pass the public parking area to unload my kayak next to the gate to the beach. Seemed like he had issues with kayakers and he took the opertunity and took it out on me.

For that issue I cant argue as they have a sign clearly posted in the middle of entry to their station employees only yet I see fishing kayaks do it often. I think if people continue to do it, you maybe right and they will close it off or just start fining people.

Raskal311

07-01-2018, 05:38 PM

For that issue I cant argue as they have a sign clearly posted in the middle of entry to their station employees only yet I see fishing kayaks do it often. I think if people continue to do it, you maybe right and they will close it off or just start fining people.

I have asked before and was told it was ok to unload there. I've even had fish and game (who probably didn't have the authority) tell me I could drive to the restroom to drop off.

DPevin

07-03-2018, 12:11 PM

yeah...it says you cant drive past that sign, but there is a loading and unloaded area painted on the ground...from what I understand you can load and unload but can park or leave your car outside that loading zone for an extended period of time.

fourtogo

07-04-2018, 01:49 AM

Loading unloaded It’s painted on ground right in front of the gate . Let’s stay on even keel with these folks . We are guests we are not home owners w don’t work there ether . I personally like going here , and wouldn’t like too get the boot . Because of as little beef or dented ego .

Silbaugh4liberty

07-05-2018, 02:44 PM

I thought with all of your yard sales I would not see you in my area again. And they are all gone. They have moved to the many other spots.

Yard sales? I'm not Stevie!! Ok, ok, I got jacked up on that last launch up there, but I only lost my hat! :doh: