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WCW Moderator
05-08-2008, 11:59 PM
Welcome to West Coast Whoppers,


the year long, points based, big fish contest for SoCal kayak anglers targeting yellowtail, white seabass and halibut.

The contest begins June 28th, 2008 and ends on June 27th, 2009. Anglers may enter the contest at any time during the WCW season.

New for 2008 - there will be no registration fees. WCW 08 entry is free for all kayak anglers. Donation to Hubbs/Seaworld Research Institute is suggested. http://www.hswri.org/getInvolved/donations.cfm

Sponsor prizes will be awarded for the top placed anglers.


Rules:


To be continually announced on this thread. The thread will be open for questions and comments once all WCW08 rules are announced.

WCW Moderator
05-14-2008, 08:46 PM
1. The contest is based on the following points system: Yellowtail, white seabass, and halibut will each count for ONE point per pound. Points will be tracked and rounded to the first decimal (1/10th of the pound). For example, a 11 pounds 8 ounces fish (11.5 pounds) will get 11.5 points; 30 pounds 14 ounces fish (30.875 pounds) will count as 30.9 points.

One bonus point will be added to each submitted fish that is caught on an artificial lure.

Fish must be at least TEN pounds to be eligible for submission.

Fish caught during the Big Waters Edge/WhiteSeabass Tournament and Steve Moyer Memorial Tournament will be eligible for a one point bonus.

WCW Moderator
05-15-2008, 09:02 PM
2. All fish must be hooked, fought, and landed from a kayak, by the submitting angler to be eligible for submission. Fish caught in Mexican waters (including the Sea of Cortez) or on mothership trips will be allowed, however kayaks may not be attached in any way to another vessel when the fish is hooked. THE USE OF MOTORIZED KAYAKS IS NOT ALLOWED.

WCW Moderator
05-15-2008, 11:13 PM
3. Submissions will be made on the West Coast Whoppers 2008 message board for all contestants to see. Leaderboards will be updated timely and will be viewable by all competitors.

WCW Moderator
05-16-2008, 08:49 PM
4. To be eligible for WCW submission, angler must submit their fish the same day the fish was caught, or the latest by midnight (Pacific Time) the following day. For example: if the fish was caught on Tuesday, the fish must be submitted by midnight on Wednesday. The exceptions are mother-ship or Baja/other trips, where the fish must be submitted the same day or by midnight the following day upon return. LATE SUBMISSIONS WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.

WCW Moderator
05-18-2008, 09:46 AM
5. Each angler will be allowed no more than TWO submissions for points of each eligible species for the WHOLE YEAR - 2 white seabass, 2 yellowtail, and 2 halibut. Submissions can be upgraded throughout the year.

WCW Moderator
05-19-2008, 10:22 PM
6. Submission requirements:

Each angler’s submission must be accompanied by one photo of the angler with the fish, preferably on the kayak.

In addition, for each fish submitted, the weight needs to be supported by either:

1. Certified weight at OEX. No additional pictures needed.

2. Documented weight at other certified weigh station (Point Loma or Mission Bay sport-fishing landings, Dana Point, etc). One picture of certified weight slip must be submitted.

3. One photo of the fish on a measuring tape showing its total length in inches. The fish must be weighed on an accurate scale. Reported fish weight will be compared to length to verify accuracy.

Note: The first 2 weigh verification methods (certified weight) are highly encouraged. If you plan to play WCW competitively with high ambitions for the top placement, get certified weight of your prize catch.

Big Water’s Edge encourages the responsible management of our fisheries. The rules of this contest allow for catch and release fishing. Please do not keep more than you can eat. For current size and bag limits please visit The California DFG website: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/

WCW Moderator
05-19-2008, 10:27 PM
Jackpots


Four optional yearly jackpots (Heaviest YT, Heaviest WSB, Heaviest Halibut and the Heaviest Slam (all 3)) are the same like in WCW 2007.



Yearly Jackpots

Cash payout will be awarded for the top 3 biggest fish in each category. Payout is as follows:

1st place - 50%
2nd place - 30%
3rd place - 20%

The cost of entry is $20 per category. A small Paypal fee will be subtracted from each entry, the remainder of which will go into the jackpot payout.

All jackpot contestants must enter Jackpot PRIOR to catching/submitting their JP fish.

The four Jackpot categories are:

1. Heaviest Yellowtail
2. Heaviest Halibut
3. Heaviest White Seabass
4. Heaviest Slam (largest total weight of all three species)


Monthly Jackpots

NOTE: will not be running after July 2008.

The biggest fish (yellowtail, white seabass or halibut) caught that month takes it all.

The cost of entry is $10 per month. A small Paypal fee will be subtracted from each entry, the remainder of which will go into the jackpot payout.



All jackpot contestants must enter Jackpot PRIOR to catching/submitting their JP fish.

Note: all Jackpot submissions will be under extra scrutiny by WCW officials. Only the first 2 verification methods (certified weight at OEX or a picture of a certified weigh-in slip from other certified weigh stations) are accepted for JP submissions. JP submissions without verifiable proof of certified weight will not be accepted.

The yearly and monthly jackpots will be determined by actual fish weight to one decimal place. Just like regular WCW submissions, jackpot submissions can be upgraded. Jackpot submissions must be caught on or between June 28, 2008 and June 27, 2009, and are subject to WCW 2008 submission eligibility requirements.

WCW Moderator
06-23-2008, 07:34 PM
You can enter Jack Pots via BWE Forum Paid Subscription feature. Once you select the appropriate Jack Pot, you will be routed to complete the payment via PayPal.

You must have an account and be logged in to BigWatersEdge forum to complete your Jack Pot payment.

1. Click on User CP

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/images/wcw/entry/paidsub1.jpg

2. Click on "Paid Subscriptions"

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/images/wcw/entry/paidsub2.jpg

3. Choose the JackPot you wish to enter and click on "Order" button

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/images/wcw/entry/paidsub3.jpg

4. You will be routed to PayPal to complete the transaction.

Note:

You can only "order" one Jack Pot at a time. For sake of convenience, you have the option to enter all 4 yearly jackpots or all 12 monthly Jack Pots at once.

WCW Moderator
06-23-2008, 07:38 PM
Any questions concerning the rules of West Coast Whoppers should be directed to the WCW moderators by posting here on this thread. Any and all decisions made by WCW moderators will be final.

This thread is now open for questions and discussion.

wavster
06-24-2008, 12:07 AM
Aside from the monthly and yearly jackpots, are there any prizes
for the overall WCW 2008 winners?

WCW Moderator
06-24-2008, 09:58 AM
Dave, yes the exact prizes have not been determined yet.....probably a years supply of beer and stuff like that.

Sponsor prizes will be awarded for the top placed anglers.

wavster
06-24-2008, 10:22 AM
Very cool.
:cheers1:

Nate, have you begun enjoying your YT ale yet?

steamroll
06-24-2008, 11:35 AM
I get it on Saturday!:cheers1::sifone:

Rusty
06-24-2008, 12:20 PM
1. Anyone else for an IGFA Cert at OEX LJ for these JPs?

2. How do we register for the year long?

3. Can we get our JP money back if we don't catch any fish? :biggrinjester:

dorado50
06-24-2008, 12:48 PM
Q-#1 yes
Q-#2 read directions above
Q-#3 no

Matt
06-25-2008, 06:31 AM
Nate you owe me beer!!!lol :D lol

dorado50
06-25-2008, 09:06 AM
Am I correct in assuming here that: 1). all jackpot fish must be weighed from a certified scale in order to win that jackpot and/or big fish catagory. 2). that no BWE moderator or employee is entered in this contest to avoid pregidous or bais opinions. 3). any jackpot fish that is weighed from a hand scale may be disputed?.

nmbrinkman
06-25-2008, 10:09 AM
Am I correct in assuming here that: ... 2). that no BWE moderator or employee is entered in this contest to avoid pregidous or bais opinions.

I don't understand this one. You don't want Andy or Adi to be a part of WCW? Does that mean that Brad, Corey and the other Team OEX guys can't participate either because OEX owns BWE? Does that also disqualify Steamroll and all other OEX employees?

This is what turns me off about WCW. Seems as though the aspect of "competition among friends" has gone out the door. Maybe all participants with a commercial association should also be DQed. Wouldn't want any bias opinions or prejudices based on potential business and advertising opportunities.:rolleyes:

steamroll
06-25-2008, 10:19 AM
I don't understand this one. You don't want Andy or Adi to be a part of WCW? Does that mean that Brad, Corey and the other Team OEX guys can't participate either because OEX owns BWE? Does that also disqualify Steamroll and all other OEX employees?

This is what turns me off about WCW. Seems as though the aspect of "competition among friends" has gone out the door. Maybe all participants with a commercial association should also be DQed. Wouldn't want any bias opinions or prejudices based on potential business and advertising opportunities.:rolleyes:

To stay eligible, I'd be happy to weigh my fish at an independent certified scale such as Pacific Coast Bait and Tackle, but I don't feel that it is necessary.

dorado50
06-25-2008, 11:08 AM
Relax boys, no need to go in the defensive mode here just asking some questions thats all! Didn't mean to upset anyone. If my questions are "out of bounds" sorry....

steamroll
06-25-2008, 11:31 AM
Relax boys, no need to go in the defensive mode here just asking some questions thats all! Didn't mean to upset anyone. If my questions are "out of bounds" sorry....

No worries Dave.:)

esdees
06-25-2008, 12:00 PM
I don't see a need to place special restrictions on the OEX/BWE guys. The ones that I know have all shown a great sense of integrity, just like most other fishermen I know.

However, I do agree with Dave that certified weights should be required for all jackpots (not just the monthly, which I believe is all that is called out in the current rules). I would even go so far as to request that the option of using a hand scale (or any non-certified scale) for regular submissions (not just jackpot contenders) be removed. This just removes the possibility of someone unknowingly weighing a fish on an inaccurate scale. With only six fish in a year, this could easily come down to ounces.

Now if only I could catch a fish worthy of a certified weight...

dorado50
06-25-2008, 12:30 PM
Now its coming together, OEX and BWE are the same so therefore all the guys that "work for" or "sponsored" by OEX also are related to BWE in some capacity. I did not know this! Three fourths ( don't quote me on this one, just throwing out a number) of all contestants that are entered in WCW are oex-bwe guys, this therefore answers one of my questions, the majority rules and that there is not just one or two "judges" as I had assumed. Thanks for your patience!

dgax65
06-25-2008, 02:17 PM
I have no problem with the current rules for WCW. Participation by those affiliated with OEX shouldn't be an issue. They have been involved in every WCW tournament since the beginning (back when it was just a little contest amongst friends). Some people are acting like this is some sort of million dollar McDonald's contest or the state lottery; it isn't. WCW is just a local fishing tournament where we compete with our FRIENDS for a little cash, beer and, most importantly, bragging rights. As far as I'm concerned we can trust our friends at OEX. Don't lose sight of what is important; it's supposed to be FUN.
:cheers1:

If you think you can't trust your friends you should start your own tournament, have lawyers write up the rules and hire rent-a-cops to go out and monitor the fishing. That sounds fun :luxhello:
I'm sure you'll get lots of participants.

WCW Moderator
06-25-2008, 06:58 PM
Aside from the monthly and yearly jackpots, are there any prizes
for the overall WCW 2008 winners?

We're working with sponsors, and will continue bringing in goodies to award to top placed anglers. The prize list will be announced soon. If you're interested in sponsoring the WCW 08, please contact marketing @ bigwatersedge.com (without spaces) .

1. Anyone else for an IGFA Cert at OEX LJ for these JPs?

2. How do we register for the year long?

3. Can we get our JP money back if we don't catch any fish? :biggrinjester:


1. We are trying to make that happen - we have been for quite some time now. There are multiple obstacles in the way. If we manage to get the certified scale setup in OEX La Jolla, we will make an announcement on the forum to inform everyone.

2. Unlike previous WCW seasons, there is no registration for WCW08. Catch an eligible fish and submit it according to the rules and you're in WCW 08. Optional JackPots are a different story - you must be register before you catch a fish to be eligible to submit that fish.

3. No. :)


Am I correct in assuming here that: 1). all jackpot fish must be weighed from a certified scale in order to win that jackpot and/or big fish catagory. 2). that no BWE moderator or employee is entered in this contest to avoid pregidous or bais opinions. 3). any jackpot fish that is weighed from a hand scale may be disputed?.

1. Yes. See the #8 (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showpost.php?p=24492&postcount=8)

2. No. WCW has no entry restrictions based on forum or company associations.

3. Yes. JackPot fish must be submitted with certified weight or it won't be accepted - see the #8 (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showpost.php?p=24492&postcount=8)

Rusty
06-28-2008, 01:22 PM
1. We are trying to make that happen - we have been for quite some time now. There are multiple obstacles in the way. If we manage to get the certified scale setup in OEX La Jolla, we will make an announcement on the forum to inform everyone.

2. Unlike previous WCW seasons, there is no registration for WCW08. Catch an eligible fish and submit it according to the rules and you're in WCW 08. Optional JackPots are a different story - you must be register before you catch a fish to be eligible to submit that fish.[/quote]



Gracias for the clarifications. That would be sweet if you can get a scale in OEX PL.

jscott
06-30-2008, 05:56 PM
It is possible that a JP fish could be caught somewhere other than LJ and not close to an OEX store for certified weight. :doh: Keep that in mind. :) Baja fish, OC fish, LA fish, Malibu fish, Ventura Fish, etc.. :auto: :auto: :kayak-surfer: :kayak-surfer: :leaving:

WCW Moderator
07-20-2008, 10:25 PM
WCW 2008 Sponsors & Prizes have been announced on the following thread:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?t=3650

The placement on WCW Leader-board will determine the order in which the prizes will be picked out... It will be up to top placed anglers to chose their prize... sure thing, following the order they placed on the WCW Leader board. ;)

We will be updating the list as we go.

tylerdurden
07-21-2008, 08:11 AM
Nice. Thanks to all the sponsors. More prizes to go around for more people. Looks even better than last year, and it's free :eek: .

herefishyfishy!
07-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Thanks BWE team for all the hard work you do to make the kayakfishing community here in San Diego feel like one big happy family.

Forged Clothing is the company I work for and we are really glad to be one of the sponsors of WCW 2008, it will be alot of fun to give away a bunch of our shirts this year. Good Luck to everyone!

Evan

WCW Moderator
07-28-2008, 04:12 PM
FYI:

Due to lack of interest, we will not have WCW 2008 Monthly Jack Pots as of the end of July 2008.

$110 will be refunded back to 3 players that entered all 12 monthly JPs.

amsurferoceanbeach
06-26-2009, 06:36 PM
I weighted my fish at dana landing and they said they dont have weight slips.
I did take photos of the scale and fish.
Is this good enough for WCW?
Thanks Paul