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Handymansd
05-20-2008, 12:44 PM
While contemplating my next sleigh, I can't help but wonder..... do those silly Hobies have enough room for my 6'4" long legged frame?:confused: Seems it would be hard on my knees to stay bent all the time. The drive system seems a little flaky as well, as two drive systems broke on the Catapalooza 08 trip. Any thoughts? :hmmmm2:Pros or cons?:captain:

dorado50
05-20-2008, 12:55 PM
Perhaps if you went down and tested one on the water you may have a better idea as to this kayaks functions , etc... A pedal hobie my be the answer to relieving shoulder and arm fatigue....:kayak-surfer:

bearlythere
05-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Ive got a few yaks and I like my hobie....I like to switch up though give the arms a work out one day then the legs another....Although i only hoop from the x-factor...Like its already been said....try them out and you will know. As far as the drive systems being flacky. dont know about that, I have had mine for about 2 years now without a hint of a problem and im pretty rough with it... i wonder if those folks rinse there gear....The major differnece is the superior ablility to drink a frost cold one on the way out to the fishing grounds...

dgax65
05-20-2008, 02:07 PM
While contemplating my next sleigh, I can't help but wonder..... do those silly Hobies have enough room for my 6'4" long legged frame?:confused: Seems it would be hard on my knees to stay bent all the time. The drive system seems a little flaky as well, as two drive systems broke on the Catapalooza 08 trip. Any thoughts? :hmmmm2:Pros or cons?:captain:

I think some of the drive issues have been resolved. Some people were having problems when they used the turbo fins. The fins were exerting too much force on the drive and it resulted in failures where a metal pin fit into a plastic adjustment hole
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/533/MirageDrive.jpg
The problem was exacerbated by not clearing debris from the hole prior to installation. From what I saw on some of the Australian forums, this problem was corrected with a new metal fitting that protects the holes. Check with a dealer before you dismiss Hobies altogether. Fastlane in San Diego and OEX in Oceanside can probably give you the full details and set the record straight.

I'm not a big fan of Hobies, but they do have some significant advantages over traditional yaks. It would be best to try one out before you completely write them off.

mg2969
05-20-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm 6 ft and 235lbs
I luv my revolution

The pedals on the fins are adjustable

Regarding the drive unit
I don't think they're flaky. I think they're mechanical.
and anything mechanical which involves motion wears out.

My only negative comment about Hobie would be the warranty.
Specifically the length
from their website
http://www.hobiecat.com/support/index.html

"All hulls are covered for a period of two years.
Mirage Drive (pedal system) is covered for a period of one year."

I think when you consider the possibilities of failure
and the idea that your paying probably double, a longer lasting warranty
should be considered.

I believe Malibu and Cobra, as examples, offer lifetime warranties.
Ocean Kayak has a 3 year warranty.

my 2 cents
MikeG

steamroll
05-20-2008, 02:42 PM
While contemplating my next sleigh, I can't help but wonder..... do those silly Hobies have enough room for my 6'4" long legged frame?:confused: Seems it would be hard on my knees to stay bent all the time. The drive system seems a little flaky as well, as two drive systems broke on the Catapalooza 08 trip. Any thoughts? :hmmmm2:Pros or cons?:captain:

I'm 6'3 and I'm totally comfortable in mine. The Mirage Drive holds up fine when you take care of it.

Come on by and try one at sometime. I'm here 7 days a week and would be happy to let you demo some boats.

OEX Oceanside
236 S. Coast Hwy
Oceanside, Ca 92054

760-721-6195

- Nate

Mike McFann
05-20-2008, 03:08 PM
I admit that I was one of the catapalooza drive destroyers and it was all on me. I got pushed back inshore during launch and instead of unhooking my paddle, I tried to paddle surge out and was too shallow. The fins completely buckled but the system remained healthy.

It just cost me the turbo fin replacement to repair. Just got back from a day in wind and large swell outside of newport and the drive is as good as new. No input on the height as I am only 5-6. But it makes trolling simple with the drive system.

2 cents

Zed
05-20-2008, 04:34 PM
I thought you were a MTB'er, handyman.

Just a thought, but, if you paddled a more efficient yak, you might have a revelation. Then you can go pedal your bike.

Craig jones
05-20-2008, 05:40 PM
I know that I have to work pretty hard to do 4 mph on my xtreme and they claim to cruise at 6 mph, thats about 50% faster.:kayak-surfer:

bajadog
05-20-2008, 06:42 PM
Rinse the drive with fresh water after use, and spray the chain
down with WD40. 2 years and no problems so far.:idea:

FISHIONADO
05-20-2008, 08:38 PM
What's up Chuck? I bought an Outback so I could fish a couple weeks after my quad bypass in 2006, I didn't want to rip open my sternum paddling. :eek: The Outback is absolutely great for bays, not so good at La Jolla. I haven't tried them but the Revolution and Adventure seem better for La Jolla.

I was out about 2.5 miles miles one day when the drive came apart. A set screw had come loose and I didn't have a hex wrench with me. I was able to tighten it slightly with my long nose pliers and it would hold for about a 1/4 mile before coming loose again. I would suggest bringing the right size hex wrench for the drive and a phillips screwdriver and extra cord for the rudder cables. Otherwise the drive was very cool, I did 12 miles at San Diego bay about 4 weeks after my surgery.

But where would you put a 50# fish?

Handymansd
05-21-2008, 10:20 AM
I would suggest bringing the right size hex wrench for the drive and a phillips screwdriver and extra cord for the rudder cables.
I really do not like the idea of having to carry x-tra equipment in case my sleigh breaks down. I understand it may be prudent with the Hobies, but not necessary with other yaks. Hmmmm....:hmmmm2:

But where would you put a 50# fish?

Dunno.....:hmmmm2:

I thought you were a MTB'er, handyman.

Just a thought, but, if you paddled a more efficient yak, you might have a revelation. Then you can go pedal your bike.

That's ex-MTB'er...:cool: no one is as out of shape as an ex-MTB'er!:turtle::)

I admit that I was one of the catapalooza drive destroyers and it was all on me.

That is part of my concern... I am not always paying attention to things like that either, and to think I could probably ruin numerous sets before learning not to do it.:doh:

Thanks for everyones input! It is exactly what I was looking for..... some of my concerns seem to be founded, and others alleviated. Leaving me in my same, normal, state of confusion! But I have to admit that being able to visit the "9s" is definitely an attribute my current ride would be extremely hard pressed to do!:paddleersmilie:

glenniesan
05-21-2008, 10:28 AM
...The major differnece is the superior ablility to drink a frost cold one on the way out to the fishing grounds...

Ha ha I love it... and I imagine that IS a nice luxury coupled with your molded beer... er CUP holders.:cheers1:

Ed
05-21-2008, 01:02 PM
I have never had a problem with my drive, ever. It will work just fine if you don't abuse the crap out of it. Besides, my Adventure with no drive still paddles better than a lot of the pig SOTs out there so what have you got to lose?. I really advise that you try one before you let someone else talk you out of it. Trust me, Hobie owners aren't the people that bad mouth Hobies. I can go all day and not get tired. Also, I can have 2 live baits out trolling and be casting iron while enjoying a beer. Yeah, that's right.

Ed

dorf
05-21-2008, 01:48 PM
I am 6'3" and 225 lbs. I take my 2 boys out with me all of the time so the stability question is answered there. The only thing that can be a problem is losing the Mirage drive as you may have already read a few posts about. I keep mine in and am careful not to run it aground when I come in. Having the drive gets you through the surf at LJ much faster and easier than without. I power through the surf. Sure I might get a little splash in the face but it is better than being dump on your side.

<O:p</O:pSee the boys down at Fastlane and take one for a spin. If and when you decide to try one out try to do it on a day when the current is rip’n and the wind is blow’n so you can compare with your own ride. You will see what an advantage the mirage drive is.

<O:p</O:pGood luck in your choice.:kayak-surfer:

steamroll
05-21-2008, 01:54 PM
<o></o>See the boys down at Fastlane


Doesn't one of the OEX shops carry Hobie?

:doh::luxhello: :p

dgax65
05-21-2008, 02:12 PM
Doesn't one of the OEX shops carry Hobie?

:doh::luxhello: :p

I don't know 'bout that, but I drove by a kayak shop at 236 South Coast Highway in Oceanside last week and they had all sorts of Hobie kayaks. You might want to check them out.;)

One Rev
05-21-2008, 03:27 PM
I think I know that place. I went to a taco/car wash place at that same address, some guy in a light blue shirt out back was cooking em up and half neked wimmin washing cars, inside the building I saw a bunch of Hobie kayaks stored away. I don't know if they will sell you one though, everyone was so focused on the tacos/car wash.

One Rev

steamroll
05-21-2008, 03:29 PM
I think I know that place. I went to a taco/car wash place at that same address, some guy in a light blue shirt out back was cooking em up and half neked wimmin washing cars, inside the building I saw a bunch of Hobie kayaks stored away. I don't know if they will sell you one though, everyone was so focused on the tacos/car wash.

One Rev

Mike,

Its almost time for another Fish Taco Bikini Car Wash :luxhello:

I'll call the girls..you call Tommy Gomes :cheers1:

Zed
05-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Also, I can have 2 live baits out trolling and be casting iron while enjoying a beer. Yeah, that's right.
I'm picturing you with one of those helmets with two beers and straws, Ed.

sdcityboy
05-21-2008, 05:49 PM
Team No Fish- Amateur Staff
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hey doug! how do u get on that exclusive team?

dsafety
05-21-2008, 09:42 PM
I am relatively new to kayaks and kayak fishing but I can tell you that when I take my Revolution out to the kelp beds, I can sense a lot of "Peddle Envy" from my fellow yak riders.

The Hobie mirage kayaks have a clear advantage over all other kayaks when used as a fishing platform. Anyone who says otherwise is either uninformed or stuck in the past. A good kayak fisher will do well on any boat but those of us who have not yet reached that experience level will probably get there more quickly in this type of kayak.

Bob

FISHIONADO
05-21-2008, 10:01 PM
Different strokes for different folks. Wow, that Cliché was never more appropriate. :D I own an Outback and a Prowler 15. I prefer the Prowler in the open ocean for many reasons. I keep two lines in the water almost all the time to double my odds, something I learned from Jim Sammons. I don't like how the lines would get hung on the mirage drive or the rudder. I don't like how kelp gets hung up on the drive. I like having the Outback because it is good for the bays and good for my wife and newbie friends. Just another opinion, don't be hating.

hookup
05-21-2008, 11:29 PM
I had a single pedal hobie kayak, now i have a tandem pedal kayak and personally the pedal unit is extremely well built. But, I can see why or how the pedal unit might break, 3 reasons.
1.) They might of not lock the safty pin properly, before going out.
2.) They might of got caught in the kelp and kept on pedaling, forcing it too hard, when they should have unlock the pedal unit and pull the pedal unit out to untangled kelp.
3.) When you come on to the beach after kayaking, once your pedal unit hit the sand, stop pedaling and get off the kayak. If you have a fart brain that day and keep on trying to pedal while your pedal is stuck in the sand you can break the pedal unit.

I have experienced all three situations and if you force it hard enough, I think it will break.:( :rolleyes:

dgax65
05-21-2008, 11:50 PM
Team No Fish- Amateur Staff
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hey doug! how do u get on that exclusive team?


Well its like this....
First, you've got to go fishing but not be very good at it. After many, many months of hard fishing, but no catching you might come to the attention of the Team No Fish talent scouts. They hang out at the landing and carefully sniff the air for the scent of skunk on the assembled kayaks. If you really suck bad enough, they will offer you a spot on the team. I screwed up when they scouted me; I had bait in the tank. If I hadn't been able to make bait I would have been assured the full sponsorship. Instead, Team No Fish brought me on as an Amateur Staff member. It's just like being a Pro Staff member, but I don't get the custom kayak. I get to wear my Team No Fish gear to the Fred Hall Show, my bio gets posted on the Team website and they even taught me the secret handshake. I just know that someday the team will recognize my lack of ability and make me a Pro Staff member. If I get skunked again in WCW 2008, there is no way that they can justify keeping me off the Team. I got my fingers crossed.

Team No Fish receives corporate sponsorship from Confluence Holdings, makers of the Patriot Kayak (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/126730/377%20710%20894/0/Kayaks%20&%20Canoes/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/0/0?N=377%20710%20894&Ne=0&Ntt=Kayaks%20&%20Canoes&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5005&subdeptNum=10&classNum=806).
http://images.westmarine.com/full/5298203patkayak.jpg
All Team No Fish Pro Staff receive custom yellow kayaks.

Team No Fish Pro Staff Surf Launch Skills Demo at La Jolla (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-dgiRJGss)

Not only is this a great marketing tool for Confluence Holdings, it also makes it easy for other kayak anglers to identify the Confluence Holdings/Team No Fish Pro Staff (CH/TNFPS for short) on the water. This is sort of a public service for both newbies and La Jolla old timers alike. The newbies can easily spot the CH/TNFPS kayaks on the water and can paddle up to ask them questions about fishing and rigging kayaks. While the newbies follow the CH/TNFPS yaks around, it will enable the Malibu, Hobie and OK pro staff to fish unmolested. The newbies, now beneficiaries of the years of fishing knowledge imparted by the CH/TNFPS, will soon become frustrated at their inability to catch fish, lose interest in kayak fishing, sell their yaks and take up surfing. La Jolla will then go back to being a small community of friendly local kayak fishermen and everybody will be happy.

bajadog
05-22-2008, 04:14 AM
When we did San Quintin last September, there were about
7 of us on revolutions, outfitters, outbacks and an adventure.

We made it out to the true point, started fishing. The first paddlers showed up 20 minutes later.:D

Like riding a recumbent bike.

Ed
05-22-2008, 05:19 AM
I'm picturing you with one of those helmets with two beers and straws, Ed.


Hey, I only use that helmet on my P15........................................

steveooo
05-22-2008, 08:31 AM
The drive system seems a little flaky as well, as two drive systems broke on the Catapalooza 08 trip. Any thoughts? :hmmmm2:Pros or cons?:captain:
For those that were there to witness it, by drive got DEMOLISHED at Catapalooza. Open water, just peddling, and SNAP SNAP SNAP! Game over, no chance of repair. Unfortunately, I was down the coast from our camp spot about 4 miles in probably the worst seas I have seen. Yes I was able to paddle back. Yes it sucks. I have the adventure. After being able to paddle it for the remainder of the weekend I was fairly pleased with how it paddled. If you look at the pics of the weekend, my disabled hobie and I made an appearance in many of the pics even after the "incident". The worst part was enduring the comments from the peanut gallery about how the Hobies are good, except that the drives are too likely to fail. I had no rebuttal. Probably there is some truth in what others are saying. If you take care of your s&%#, they will last a looong time. I do not take care of my s&%#. I don't feel that I should have to. With that being said, I have had hobies for 4 years now and only 2 mirage drive incidents to speak of.

steveooo
05-22-2008, 08:35 AM
I'm 6 ft and 235lbs

My only negative comment about Hobie would be the warranty.
Specifically the length



My experience goes the other way. My hull was out of warranty and they replaced it when I had an issue, no questions asked. Tim at Dana Point Jet Ski was super helpful. I think that the guys at OEX Oceanside would be the same way. Hobie stands by their stuff.

bajadog
05-22-2008, 08:38 AM
My experience goes the other way. My hull was out of warranty and they replaced it when I had an issue, no questions asked. Tim at Dana Point Jet Ski was super helpful. I think that the guys at OEX Oceanside would be the same way. Hobie stands by their stuff.


Ditto!

My old outback hull had a rod holder fall into the hull (thin material).

It was out of warranty, and fastlane :you_rock:got me a NEW hull free of charge.

steveooo
05-22-2008, 09:06 AM
But where would you put a 50# fish?
I usually find that the bigger problem is figuring out how to effectively clean blood off the deck...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P2190051.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P2190074.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P1010049.jpg

FISHIONADO
05-22-2008, 09:20 AM
I usually find that the bigger problem is figuring out how to effectively clean blood off the deck...

Sweet!

Handymansd
05-22-2008, 09:44 AM
I love that Picture!

bigderel
05-22-2008, 12:38 PM
Disclaimer: I'm affiliated with Hobie Kayaks
Disclaimer to the disclaimer: I bought my Hobie before being affiliated :p

I'm 6'-4" and hover around 225 (235 come the holidays) and pedal/paddle the Adventure. Leg room is not a concern, in fact it excels in that department. Plenty of room. The pedal drive is great and I've yet to experience any problems other than a hex nut loosening once...easy fix. The beauty of the Adventure (as stated elsewhere in this thread) is that it paddles very well. I bring a paddle leash to secure the pedals when they're out...very handy since I primarily fish for bass and spend a lot of time in the kelp. I've spent a lot of time exploring Catalina and our local coastline and the advantage of long distance trips with the pedals is awesome. The pedals offer other advantages as far as repositioning while casting/fighting a fish, etc.

As for fishing for the pelagics, I can't offer you much input. If you're concerned about the extra weight of a 50# fish, I can say that a big cooler/livewell filled up + myself still works out just fine. If you're concerned about where to put it - the lap works out fine, you just have to paddle. ;) As for paddling, I do it a lot when I'm out at LJ, etc. to switch things up anyway and to save my arms from atrophe.

Here's a little write-up I did on the Plastic Navy site...and if you have any questions about my experience with Hobie, I'll answer them without BiaS, PM me or throw 'em up here.

http://plasticnavy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3372&sid=24e00b8f4b787238c6c9cb7fedc25147

Ed
05-22-2008, 12:43 PM
I usually find that the bigger problem is figuring out how to effectively clean blood off the deck...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P2190051.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P2190074.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/bigsteveorr/P1010049.jpg
Just wash it with water from the Yakgina...................:kayak-surfer:

PAL
05-22-2008, 02:33 PM
Just wash it with water from the Yakgina...................:kayak-surfer:<!-- / message -->

Be careful about surf launching without the plug or the drive. It squirts! :eek:

FISHIONADO
05-22-2008, 02:33 PM
I hope my posts haven't come across as anti-Hobie. I actually own two of them, the Outback and the Sport. I really like them for certain applications. My 12 year old would not be able to paddle out to the "spot" ;), but on calm days he can pedal the Sport out there no problem. I love the Outback for the bays but not for the open ocean. My Outback takes on water through the rudder cable holes in rough conditions, not enough to be unsafe, just a hassle to have to drain it after a trip. Not hating, just sharing an informed owners opinion.

THE DARKHORSE
05-22-2008, 06:21 PM
I hope my posts haven't come across as anti-Hobie. I actually own two of them, the Outback and the Sport. I really like them for certain applications. My 12 year old would not be able to paddle out to the "spot" ;), but on calm days he can pedal the Sport out there no problem. I love the Outback for the bays but not for the open ocean. My Outback takes on water through the rudder cable holes in rough conditions, not enough to be unsafe, just a hassle to have to drain it after a trip. Not hating, just sharing an informed owners opinion.

The nice people at Hobie/Fastlane Sailing Center gave me an opportunity to try every craft Hobie has to offer. Each vessel had great distinctly different features that made for a challenging descision. I made my descision 100% based on finishing out WCW on top. The local pattern has been set for over two months concerning catching local Yellowtail. On "sunny days" with little to no cloud cover the schools of Yellowtail (with numbers of 15 giant homeguards all above #30, to huge schools of fish in the #18-#25 class numbering around a 100 fish each) have been fairly easy to find while "sight fishing." I chose the Hobie Outback, at the confusion of the Hobie people as it's the least popular model of the three.
I would like to say how impressed I was with this kayak in open ocean conditions (as it's all I fish). I took it out with confidence logging over ten miles a day in some really nasty conditions. The most impressive thing about the "mirage drive" is how it handles the worst possible conditions. Being that the mirage system fins are always underwater there is never a glitch in ability to create speed. I found that you can go incredibly fast in ridiculous wind and chop. Being a 12' long and wide vessel you may take a little spray coming over the bow when "flying" along in big whacky swell with heavy wind, but the stability is equally great. Thus my descision to finish out WCW in this incredibly stable vessel. The Hobie Outback allows you to perch up on your knees with confidence or even stand up in calm conditions. This lighting difference from sitting down to up on your knees is "night and day". The difference between seeing all the fish swimming by laughing at you and consistently giving yourself an excellent shot. Even if you don't land that iron in the right spot and spook the school, you will atleast see Yellowtail in their natural environment like never before (a magical experience in it's self). As far as bringing in #50+ fish, don't worry, I had no problem and still beat everyone to the launch while drinking my celebratory cold one.

FISHIONADO
05-22-2008, 06:51 PM
I need to learn how to "sight fish"! I'll give the Outback another try based on Josh's post.

blackcloud9
05-22-2008, 07:42 PM
Pretty much everything has been covered above. To me, these pedal kayaks just rock all the way around for fishing La Jolla or the bays. I've been pedaling them for a number of years now.

Heavy kelp or heavy stringers? Just pop the drive out and paddle. Best of both worlds.

The pedal drive has been very reliable for me over the years, and I have seen Hobie / Fastlane come through with excellent customer service both for me and for others with any needs or concerns.

bajadog
05-23-2008, 06:15 AM
Hobie has stood by their products for my anyway.:)

jimmyshark
05-24-2008, 04:21 PM
Larry is right. The crew at Fastane Sailing has excellent customer service. :you_rock:

Billy V
05-24-2008, 10:19 PM
I have a Hobie Adventure and it works well at La Jolla. The kayak slices through waves, and swell with ease with its 16 ft length.

Its low profile does not seem affected by wind.

It also paddles very good as it it only 27.5" wide.

The turbo fins are tunable, so you can set them to have a heavier peddle that will give you a slower cadence. I have mine set to give a 3.5 mph speed at a very low peddle rpm.

The peddle length is adjustable, and I frequently adjust mine to work different leg muscles.

The only issue I have with the Adventure is fish storage. The front hatch is way up front, and takes some practice to crack it open out in the open ocean but it can be done with a little patience.

Sometimes I mount a fish bag on the bow.

You can easily store a big fish in the rear well, provided you aren't carrying a bait tank back there.

The Revolution is easier to open the front hatch while out on the water. It is almost as fast as the Adventure, and it also paddles good @ 28.5" wide.

I would suggest giving them both a try, the Adventure and Revo.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8da27b3127ccec399ce16efa700000016100AbMmzFizcN2 IPbz4M
Deck Layout (for reference)
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I think I have the Fish Storage problem solved to a degree.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db04b3127ccec466f7760bca00000066100AbMmzFizcN2 IPbz4M
I'll let you know how it goes after I return looking like this. :)
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sdcityboy
05-25-2008, 02:33 AM
I went to fastlane to drool over the yaks. told the salesman i really liked the idea of peddaling, but i liked the lay out of the malibu yaks better. he told me that any yak fisherman knows that the layout is just fine on hobies. i also asked him about people losing the mirage drives at la jolla. he said he had never heard of anyone losing a mirage drive. :banghead: :vollkommenauf:

FISHIONADO
05-25-2008, 09:34 AM
I used my Outback at La Jolla yesterday. The Outback kicks ass in calm water, not so much in rough conditions. I didn't care for launching and landing in close interval surf or bobbing around on the wind chop. I used the same GPS unit I use on my Prowler 15 to track my speed, I can sprint faster on my Prowler but the Outback would be slightly better for sustained speed over longer distances. I know the Adventure and Revolution are faster and better suited for open water, I'd like to try them sometime. My line got hung up on the rudder twice but easy to clear by lifting the rudder.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n49/hornback99/hobie.jpg

Billy V
05-25-2008, 11:39 AM
I went to fastlane to drool over the yaks. told the salesman i really liked the idea of peddaling, but i liked the lay out of the malibu yaks better. he told me that any yak fisherman knows that the layout is just fine on hobies. i also asked him about people losing the mirage drives at la jolla. he said he had never heard of anyone losing a mirage drive. :banghead: :vollkommenauf:

The guy you want to speak with at Fastlane is Morgan. He has fished all the Hobie's and can give you solid advice based on his actual testing of each kayak.

He is presently fishing a Revo, and has a similar set up as seen on my Adventure. The main difference being that his FF is mounted on the port gunnel where he can easily access it. (I prefer mine up front, and away from the sides)

Handymansd
05-25-2008, 07:53 PM
I went to fastlane to drool over the yaks. told the salesman i really liked the idea of peddaling, but i liked the lay out of the malibu yaks better. he told me that any yak fisherman knows that the layout is just fine on hobies. i also asked him about people losing the mirage drives at la jolla. he said he had never heard of anyone losing a mirage drive. :banghead: :vollkommenauf:

I REALLY hate it when people are so bent on selling something to someone that they are dishonest, ignorant, or just plain stupid! If the product you are selling is good then you should not have to lie to the consumer!!:shot:

Handymansd
05-25-2008, 07:55 PM
Dave, how do you like that new Garmin FF / GPSyou got going there?

amsurferoceanbeach
05-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Hobie has been very good to me. I got into kayak fishing because
of down time from a shoulder injury from surfing. Some freinds of mine
came back from the Fred Hall show with new Hobies. Cool, I can fish
and drink beer at the same time- Sold! 3 years later, I am a happy
camper.
I surf for a few days in a row and I hurt. I fish every day for a month,
some times morning to night and I am ready for more. Put in thousands of miles. Destroyed
a few yaks, broke a lot of miarge drive parts, and still I am very happy
with the Hobie.
Fish Storage
33, 30 lb yellowtail
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30, 34 lb WSB, 25 lb Yellow tail 89 lbs in the front hatch. No prolblem.
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33 lb Yellow Tail + beer
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The front weight helps in the Adventure. This kraft was desinged for the open ocean.

I have been caught at Torry Pines with a heavy south to north current, with 25 to 35
miles an hour winds in my face. This is when I learned to pedal paddle. Life guards
where saving a lot of people this day. I said screw fishing and and put my head down.
I could not believe how fast I made it back to the shore launch. Someone came out of the restaurant and wanted to know what kind of motor I was using.
For the most part, my stroke on the mirage drive is only 3 inchs or so. You need little movement to push forward, and for the most part, fast is a moot point.
Ron and Debbie Lane have a lot of history with San Diego, the ocean and Mission bay. As far as a family ran business they are gold, and business people San Diego can be proud of.
On the same note Brent who owns this site and OEX has been nothing but helpfull
to me and a genuine nice guy. I have bought from his shop with great service.
If I could afford it I would have a large quiver of kayaks. Just like surfing, I
have always had a large range of boards from 6 ft to 10 ft boards and used every one for different conditions.
I have paddled my adventure for miles and miles just to get used to the paddle,
and if you get a Hobie you should definitively know your limits as far as having to paddle in open ocaen water. This is because all things mechanical can break.
I know I can paddle my adventure for miles with a fish to big to put in the hatch.
Always take your plug with you, and this makes it very easy to paddle.
I have freinds who say they can't stay out that long because of cramps.
With the mirage drive , your legs are at an angle that not only is comfortable ,
you are moving, and with the blood flow, you don't get cramps. This lets you stay
out a long time.
All things said, the people who fish and post this site have changed my life forever.
Thank you Paul
I release 90 % of the fish I catch. I fish for food.
If you have a problem consuming you WSB or Halibut,
I will clean and fillet for you for a small fillet charge.

Billy V
05-25-2008, 08:30 PM
Thats a heavy load right there....:)

I use a 55 gal. drum liner bag to contain the mess.

bajadog
05-26-2008, 06:10 AM
Billy,
Never mind the kayak! I like the KTM!!!!!!! Go KATOOM!:ciao:

FISHIONADO
05-26-2008, 11:22 AM
Paul's Adventure is a freaking "Toad Hauler"! Nice photos.

sdjiricek
05-26-2008, 02:01 PM
Have had my outback mirage hank parker edition for 2 years and love it. My only complaint was the price. They load you up with too much crap you don't need for open ocean fishing. I don't know if you can get the pedal vesion in a pared down form. I really wish now that I had had that choice. If I had the choice to buy the Yak with only the pedals and padle I would have taken it. I would have bought a better seat. Forgone the drybag, cooler and anchor. Installed a bigger center hatch and otherwise spent my saved money on tube holders and a fishfinder. Don't get me started on the kayak dolly that came with it. It broke on the second outing. One of the cheap plastic hubs just disintegrated. I had to go to harbor freight tools and buy pneumatics to retrofit the frame. Other than the pedal system I would guess the dolly is the second most expensive addon to the yak. If you can buy a pared down version then skip the dolly and make one out of PVC and $5 pneumatic tires. Other than that it's stable and quick in open water but handles like a pig in the surf.
fishon;)

Joe11
05-26-2008, 09:38 PM
Ever since I bought my Hobie Adventure, my Wilderness Systems Tarpon is on the storage rack for guests. I am 6' 2" 225 plenty of leg room. Have a short leash on my mirage drive so Davy Jones does not end up with it when I take it out to get into the kelp. I use the Turbos adjusted tight for top end speed. Have the sailing rudder which is great to adjust your drift. Don't need to bother with a drift chute anymore either. That hex nut backing out...solved with some blue thread blocker and silicone sealant.

sdcityboy
05-27-2008, 01:07 AM
OK,OK, already. u hobie guys sure like your yaks! i think i need to go test ride one tomorrow! hope i can find something used.

lamb
05-27-2008, 07:37 AM
Paul, now that's about the best kayak review I have ever read! :cheers1:

If that doesn't sell you on Hobie, I don't know what will!

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I WONNA ORANGE HOBIE JUST LIKE PAUL's!!!! :D

savage
06-06-2008, 06:00 PM
go see Nate at oex in oceanside great guy and knows alot.