Gaff length?

[flip4i]

Hi everyone:

Just wondering what is the most effective gaff length from the yak. I'm in the market or may build one.

[tylerdurden]

No matter how long your gaff is, it always needs to be a little longer to reach a fish.

Seriously 2-4' is what most people choose.

[flip4i]

In that case, might as well go with the 4 footer. Thanks!

[trob]

Actually, i seem to always want my gaff to be shorter than it already is. Its about 2.5 feet plus the hook. You have a lot more control, and thats huge on the yak.
I typically like to gaff and immediately drag it up onto my lap. longer gaffs get in the way. Everyone does it differently.

[Billy V]

3 ft. seem just right, it gives you good leverage and control.

[dorado50]

I saw a guy last week that five foot long gaff, :doh:It was as long as his rods!!!!!!!!!!

[Willy]

Also, think about the length and strength of your arm.
If you have long arms, that means another possible two + feet on your gaff. Some like a longer gaff to help increase their pulling strength, or to allow it to slip a bit.
Mine is about 24", but I have long arms and can reach it over four feet to the tip.
Obviously, think about how you're going to store it on the boat, that may make the length decision for you.

Willy

[Matt]

I agree with Tyler on this one completely!! I use a 40" gaff which seems long but alot of the time its just about right! Anywhere between 2'-4' will work just perfect!

[THE DARKHORSE]

No matter how long your gaff is, it always needs to be a little longer to reach a fish.

Seriously 2-4' is what most people choose.

:iagree: Like anything, pros and cons to both, but one more vote for long.

[Handymansd]

I really like the extendability of the gaff by... Promar? On my second one, but it has the versatility of stowing short and gaffing long.

[aguachico]

4feet. fish swins away from the boat, swims into the point. No stabbing necessary.

[Trout]

I go with the short hand gaff. I see it like when you start hammering a nail. You don't hold the end and swing wildly... you choke up and keep it tight for more control... just a short extension of your own hand. When I'm on a yak I like everything with a low center of gravity keeping things in control. If I gaff a big fish and it's several feet out I don't feel like I have as much control. My 2 cents. I guess you can have a long gaff and choke up... old school little style. Aguachico is definitely OLD school. Sorry Art... you set yourself up for that one.

[aguachico]

Aguachico is definitely OLD school. Sorry Art... you set yourself up for that one.

There goes the neighborhood :D.

No worries, gaff length is not too important on the scale of things. It usually ends up being a personal preference. I wrapped my bamboo gaff using the thinner part of the length. It's lighter than most 4 foot gaffs which makes it long one hander. I like a 1/0,2/0 size hook - good for head shots. Also wrapping your own enables you to change the hook when necessary.

[dorado50]

In my opinion a shorter gaff (24"max) gives one more control as to where to place the hook. I like to bring the fish towards the boat and myself, horizonal to the water, place hook under the fish as you are guiding fish toward boat, as fish comes closer pull up gently and you got yourself a nicely gaffed fish. Did I mention next step, pull into kayak.

[aguachico]

I go with bambo, thanks c-level - because it's light, thin and strong - so a 4foot gaff is easily handled. I doubled the handle cord thickness for comfort - good idea for big hands. Again it's whatever works.

So back to original question for the Flip4i. Buy a 3 foot wooden gaff from squidco and trim it too what fits you after each fish you gaff. With this summer's bonanza of YT, it shouldn't take long.

[cabojohn]

In my opinion a shorter gaff (24"max) gives one more control as to where to place the hook. I like to bring the fish towards the boat and myself, horizonal to the water, place hook under the fish as you are guiding fish toward boat, as fish comes closer pull up gently and you got yourself a nicely gaffed fish. Did I mention next step, pull into kayak.

x2
I like the short gaff also...20"
I find it is much easier to handle a hot fish with a short gaff.:stoned::farmer:

[esdees]

I used a hay hook for a while, which was exciting, but unfortunately I lost it one day. My current gaff is about 3' long, maybe a little shorter.

[bloodykayak]

I have an extendable gaff, it is 29" closed and 49" open. It works great not to mention it floats if accidently droped.

[flip4i]

Thanks for all the input everyone. With this new information. I think its best to go with an adjustable to be able to play around with my preference.

[SESSAGAFF]

all titamium mine float no worries about them sinking

[SESSAGAFF]

a problem with the hook size and the opeing on the hook i watched a video this dude had to gaff it 3 times before he got it mine is 2 foot flocked grip custom hook with a swinging barb

[h2ofishfo]

THATS WHY I MASTERED THE ART OF THE GILL GRAB BECAUSE MY HAND COULD NEVER GET LOST IT CAN SWIM & IS FREE ONCE U GET YOUR HAND IN THERE ITS D-U-N:)

[EFISH]

I had one that was about 18in. loved it for all the reasons described by D50. Prefect and solid placement every time, (almost every time). I was fishing LJ during a yellowtail run when it happened. Hooked into a nice fish and during it's first run I reached back, got the gaff out placed it in a rod holder behind me and took off the rubber ball that guards the point. Same thing I always do. Got the fish to color after a short fight and reached back for the gaff. OUCH!!!! Put the point right into the back of my hand. The meat part that goes between the thumb and pointer. Just the weight of it was enough to almost go through both sides. That was fun to pull out. Good thing no barb!! Yes I got the fish. My first LJ yellow 19lbs..
You would have thought that would have learned after that. NOPE, about 2 months goes buy the hand heals and I happen upon a wsb bite. Bouncing an iron I get hammered and know i'm on a quality fish, nice 10min fight just to get it's head turned start gaining some line back and get it under me but can't see it. Reach back grab the gaff, put it in the holder with the ball off and go back to fighting the fish. Took a little longer then I thought :wsb: Oh man toad!!! Spin back to grab the gaff and sure enough in all the excitement I did it again:eek::eek: Oh shit this time I put it right into the top of my wrist and into the tendon. About half inch or so. Let out a few choice words, I think I scared the wsb because it went from almost belly up to thrashing up a storm. Pulled the gaff from my wrist and sunk it into my personal best 49.8lbs. The wrist took about 2 1/2 months to heal this time and left some scar tissue. In that time I went out and had a new gaff made, 3 feet which is long enough to snag fish and keep it under control. It also keeps the hook out of my way when I spin for it in the heat of battle. I've been fishing out of my yak for more than 15 years and i've never done that before. Lesson learned before I put one all the way through!!!!!!!:)
Peace Out
EFISH

[Law Hand]

Lets see this SESSAGAFF. I see you posting on all the forums but no pics.

[SESSAGAFF]

got a bomb ass new camera to so ill have better pics for ya :luxhello:

[-scallywag-]

do you really need a gaff to land big fish??? unless im fishing deep in the kelp or for hali's, i leave the extendo gaff at home...i like the challenge and the safety of not having a gaff onboard, i like handling the fish, gently removing the hook and letting them go, or when i do catch that trophey grab it by the gills, slam it on the deck, get it in a figure4 and rip its gills out (big hali;s being the exception)....as for the safety part just look at all those gaffs in the tournament wipe-out photos....scary.

[dorado50]

I have brought in both a wsb and yt by the gills and don't ever want to do it again. Really rakes the hands,ok for the moment but next few days not so cool. Not being a fan of long gaffs,I opt for shorter ones,no more than 24" and I perfer the 18" one. Large and long gaffs are a minus imo, just another item to help in the loss of a fish. A shorter gaff gives one much more control over the situation and does not hinder you by getting in the way. Having a gaff on board without a point protecter(rubber tip,cork,whatever)is just plain stupid.Some guys are out there waiting for an accident to happen......

[Law Hand]

Got tired of waiting, went into garage fired up the HAAS Lathe and made this.

Yes its TITANIUM (shaft, cap, and hook), yes it floats, yes it will never corrode, yes it can be made in just about any length.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/hunting1971/GAFF04.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/hunting1971/GAFF03.jpg


http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo200/hunting1971/GAFF02.jpg

[dorado50]

Why would you need lathe? The only way to make this would be, trepan a given diameter or weld titanium sheet. How could this possibly float if you grind ,or use lathe,a solid bar down to smaller dia.???? A solid ti bar is light but will not float! Want to refigure your process and or story so that at least I could understand and hopefully learn something new,thanks.

[Law Hand]

Its a tube, the caps are turned and threaded; as well as turning the tip on the hook. I also used a fixture to bend the hook. ( I have a lathe, just thought I would have some fun and put it to good use)

[dorado50]

Yea, thats what I thought. You can't fool a fooler.........

[SESSAGAFF]

FOR THE RANGER 85 CHARTER IN VENTURA ,CA MY 24'' KAYACK GAFF WEIGHTS OUT TO 5 OZ WITH FLOCKED GRIP ON IT U CANT USE A SOLID PIPE U NEED SOME FLEX IN IT FOR JUKEING IT IN THE WATER

[Law Hand]

Dave,

What are you talking about? Fool a Fooler? I never said anything about my gaff being a bar. You made the mistake not me. As for my using a lathe, perhaps you would like to come on down yourself and get some CNC lessons.

[trob]

all titamium mine float no worries about them sinking


just a shade under a year old :doh:

[eddier68]

Made for me by Rik Osani OEX/ SDKA. Badass!!!!!!!! 3 ft.

[Law Hand]

Badass!!!!!!!!


Agreed.

[ericko]

VERY NICE LOOKING!!!!!!!!

[Adam12]

Thats a sweet looking gaff, shiny.

[dorado50]

Dave,

What are you talking about? Fool a Fooler? I never said anything about my gaff being a bar. You made the mistake not me. As for my using a lathe, perhaps you would like to come on down yourself and get some CNC lessons.

just kidding around, But if you re-read your words you used your lathe to create this gaff,probably I'm mistaken again!Besides a lathe is used only for solids,probably not so good with .090 +/- walls. No I would not like to come down for cnc lessons. U probably do cnc work for me anyways...

[dgax65]

Why would you need lathe? The only way to make this would be, trepan a given diameter or weld titanium sheet. How could this possibly float if you grind ,or use lathe,a solid bar down to smaller dia.???? A solid ti bar is light but will not float! Want to refigure your process and or story so that at least I could understand and hopefully learn something new,thanks.

It is a good thing that an expert like Dave is all over this topic. I would hate for anybody to mislead the kayak fishing public about the properties or construction of a titanium gaff. The last thing we need to have in our community is somebody misrepresenting a substandard or non-conforming gaff as a true titanium gaff. That would be terribly unethical. I don't think you could get indicted for something like that, but it is wrong. Thanks again Dave for keeping this forum honest.

[Law Hand]

It is a good thing that an expert like Dave is all over this topic. I would hate for anybody to mislead the kayak fishing public about the properties or construction of a titanium gaff. The last thing we need to have in our community is somebody misrepresenting a substandard or non-conforming gaff as a true titanium gaff. That would be terribly unethical. I don't think you could get indicted for something like that, but it is wrong. Thanks again Dave for keeping this forum honest. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[dorado50]

No problem Doug, I see you are an expert yourself on most everything related,even on things that you have no idea of whats going on!!!!!! LOL...

[dgax65]

No worries Dave. Just couldn't pass on the wonderful irony of the whole situation.

[joyjiggin']

Let put an end to this thread.....I know from experience that fisherwoman like me, prefer ours long, but not too long, stiffness is important and diameter must be of such to maintain a firm and solid grip..But hey...that’s just me.. :D<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[bellcon]

Let put an end to this thread.....I know from experience that fisherwoman like me, prefer ours long, but not too long, stiffness is important and diameter must be of such to maintain a firm and solid grip..But hey...that’s just me.. :Dffice:office" /><O:p></O:p>



Joy Joy Joy
I am speechless :o
(but I can hear the jokes coming on the next mothership trip:D)
Eric, your turn:D

[Adam12]

This happens to this guy on every forum he posts his gaffs on. Lucky he didnt post the asking price.:eek:

[erinoo]

Don.....I can assure you Joy know what an "excellant gaff" is..:sifone:

[Law Hand]

$50.00 :)

[Grego]

This a pretty long thread....watcha fellas talk'n about?

[dgax65]

$50.00 :)

I'd pay $50 bucks for a floating gaff made of titanium (of course it must be high quality titanium that can pass all required QC checks). I wouldn't want a gaff made of substandard or nonconforming material that might fail and put somebody in jeopardy.

Hey Law Hand, send me a PM with a materials spec sheet, QC reports and a price list. I'll just run it by the Engineering, QC, Procurement, Contracts and the Legal departments. If everything looks Kosher, we got a deal.

Hell, I never catch any fish. You might as well make it out of rolled up beer cans and a paperclip.:linesnap:

[dgax65]

This a pretty long thread....watcha fellas talk'n about?

Here is a brief synopsis:


Flip4i asked a valid question about the best length for a gaff

A number of people posted serious replies with their personal preferences for gaff length.

SESSAGAFF brought up the subject of floating gaffs

The thread wandered off topic slightly with a discussion of the pros and cons of gill grabbing.

Efish told his tale of woe and warned of the dangers of a sharp gaff within arm's reach

Law Hand posted pics of a floating titanium gaff that he manufactured

Dorado50, being a major tool, called out Law Hand on the veracity of his post

Law Hand took offense

The topic then wandered back to the original subject. Nice pics of a badass gaff made by Rick Osani

Dgax65, being a part-time A-hole and a full time curmudgeon, posted a sarcastic response to D50

D50 panties in a wad

The thread wandered back off track with healthy doses of sexual innuendo

Law Hand wants to sell one of his homemade, fancy, floating titanium gaffs.

Dgax expresses an interest in said gaff, but does so in a sarcastic manner (that A-hole tendency gets the better of me sometimes)


There you go Greggo. You are fully up to speed on what we're talk'n about. Just havin' a little fun. This will probably drag on for another page or two before somebody has the good sense to lock it.

[Grego]

Crazy thread....but I'd seriously look at buying a titanium gaff if someone is making them.

[FISHIONADO]

Chuck Norris doesn't use a gaff, or a glove, or even his hand, to land fish. Sack up!

[Law Hand]

I am CHUCK NORRIS!











Dorado50, being a major tool,



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[T Bone]

Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer-too bad he never cry's...

Dont get between Dave and Ti,or YOU will be the one to corrode...

[Law Hand]

Dont get between Dave and Ti,or YOU will be the one to corrode...


From his lack of knowledge I could see how this could be dangerous.

[dgax65]

From his lack of knowledge I could see how this could be dangerous.

Ouch. Good one "Chuck"
That will put him in his place........except I think Dave knows something about titanium.


This should be entertaining.

[Billy V]

For the Love of God.....:turtle:

Post a picture of this Gaff already. We will deal with the metallurgy after the design is tentatively approved. :)