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01-03-2006, 10:40 AM
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*************Current jackpot is $950*************
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwbrad.jpg1ST PLACE: Brad Messmer/717.5 points(5H,6YT,6WSB) 1st wsb mulligan played,wildcard played
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/adi/pics/avatar/wcw_avatar.JPG2ND PLACE:Adi Ljubovic/476 points(3WSB,3YT,4H)wildcard,mulligan played, biggest fish, biggest WSB
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwandy.jpg3RD PLACE: Andrew Allen/423 points(2H,7YT,4WSB) 1st H,1st YT, mulligan played
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwaaron.jpg4TH PLACE: Aaron Brenner/409 points(10H,2WSB,5YT)mulligan played
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwjulie.jpg5TH PLACE: Julia Benak/400.5 points(10H,1WSB,4YT)Biggest halibut, mulligan played, 1ST C&R YT
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwtyler.jpg6TH PLACE: Tyler Webb/298 points(2WSB,6YT,1H)
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwchris.jpg7TH PLACE: Chris Fierro/294 points(4H,5YT,1WSB,1YFT)FIRST WILDCARD!
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwken.jpg8TH PLACE: Ken Atchison/270 points(3WSB,1H) mulligan played
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwdan.jpg9TH PLACE: Daniel Bensen/226.5 points(2WSB,1H,5YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwcabman.jpg10TH PLACE: Dave Cabral/199.5 points(1YT,3WSB)mulligan played
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/ryanwcw.jpg11TH PLACE: Ryan Block/179.5 points(4YT,2WSB)mulligan played
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/davewcw.jpg12TH PLACE: David Hornback/155.5 points(2WSB,1YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwlitup1.jpg13TH PLACE: Dave Easton/148 points(1WSB,3YT,3H)
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwpat.jpg14TH PLACE: Pat Holmes/127 points(2YT 1WSB) biggest YT
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwmikeknot.jpg15TH PLACE: Mike Knott/106.5 points(1WSB,2YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwmatt.jpg16TH PLACE: Matt Moyer/100 points(1YT,1YFT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwwill-1.jpg17TH PLACE: Will Bowen/77 points(5H,1YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwkurt.jpg18TH PLACE: Kurt Shindler/66 points(4YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwcorey.jpg19TH PLACE: Corey Wyrick/65 points(2YT,1H)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwlarry.jpg20TH PLACE: Larry Laumann/51 points(1WSB)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwjasmin.jpg21ST PLACE: Jasmin Grabic/49 points(3YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwtattuna.jpg22ND PLACE: Charles Belnavis/45 points(3H) 1st CnR
http://www.boomspeed.com/andyboy/wcwdmr.jpg23RD PLACE: Derek Reed/42 points(2YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwsteveooo.jpg24TH PLACE:TIE! Steve Orr/24 points(1YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwtrex.jpg24TH PLACE:TIE! Rex McNamara/24 points(1H,1YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwmugu.jpg26TH PLACE MJ Kennedy/18 points(1YT,1H)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwaustin.jpg27TH PLACE: Austin Bland/17 points(1H)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwpeach.jpg28TH PLACE: Paul Hartwell/16 points(1YT)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f390/panda619/wcwrastrev.jpg29TH PLACE Trevor Blann/15 points(1H)

lamb
08-01-2006, 09:32 PM
All right, the new leader board.

Why don’t we use this thread to congratulate moves, greet people on board, give each other crap? :lol: Perfect for that.

Congrats to Brad on nice offense in July. Congrats to all that scored.

Dave, who is that guy below you with that big white fish? Tell him to stay down there. :lol:

Game on - good fishing to all in August!

Lit-up1
08-02-2006, 08:32 AM
I don't recognize that guy behind me but I think he works in La Jolla and has to travel
to far away places to catch cool fish. I can't say much because even he caught a yeller in July-
Nice passing me by and knocking me out of the top 10 Adi :o
Where did you come from :?: Nice flattie by the way :shock:
I assume Brad wants to go back there this week.
Lets paddle out of the harbor to that spot some day. I keep getting the dinky flatfish-
Good eating but not many points :!:
How about that Chris getting all exotic on us :o
I notice he wasn't in his green boat-I wonder if it matters... :roll:
Dave

madscientist
08-02-2006, 08:40 AM
Welcome to the top 10 Adi. Tag team for exotics next! Dave, we should definitely work that spot, if I can remember where it is :roll: :wink: . Unfortunately, I think this thing is all going to come down to flatties.

Aaron&Julie
09-02-2006, 10:19 AM
Welcome to the top 5 Adi. You're on a heckuva hot streak.

Holy Mackerel
09-05-2006, 09:51 AM
baaaaaaaaaaaahh!!! Nice job Adi! 8)

lamb
09-05-2006, 04:27 PM
Thank you all!

I had to see it to believe it. :lol:

Congrats to all that got on board this month!

madscientist
09-06-2006, 07:01 AM
Go get em Adi. A well timed mulligan or a 50lb tuna might just get you up in the money!

WCW Moderator
09-08-2006, 07:38 AM
or a 50lb tuna might just get you up in the money!

I think Adi will be regretting using his (1 time) wildcard after San Carlos in a few weeks :D

madscientist
09-08-2006, 07:40 AM
or a 50lb tuna might just get you up in the money!

I think Adi will be regretting using his (1 time) wildcard after San Carlos in a few weeks :D

I thought we could upgrade. :?: :?: :?:

Brad I like the idea of being able to upgrade on both counts. Let me see what Cornholio has to say about it.

I concur Dr. Allen.

we'll have to note that in the rules.

Aaron&Julie
09-08-2006, 09:47 AM
EXOTICS: Each angler will also be given the opportunity to submit one of the following species ONE TIME PER YEAR for 3 points per pound in addition to the regular monthly submissions: albacore, bluefin tuna, yellowfin tuna, bigeye tuna (yeah right), dorado, and ocean-caught salmon (any species).

Seems rather unfair to change the rules as we go along. Changing it next year seems logical and ethical.

madscientist
09-08-2006, 10:13 AM
More unfair to change the rules when it affects no one, then unchange them after people already played by the adjusted ones. The quoted discussion occurred in early January in the thread on the rules.

Adi got you guys nervous? :D

Aaron&Julie
09-08-2006, 10:19 AM
The rules were never changed. It was discussed, but not actually changed. This was copied today:
EXOTICS: Each angler will also be given the opportunity to submit one of the following species ONE TIME PER YEAR for 3 points per pound in addition to the regular monthly submissions: albacore, bluefin tuna, yellowfin tuna, bigeye tuna (yeah right), dorado, and ocean-caught salmon (any species).

Sure he does, and Chris too. :) . And anyone else. We don't share your comfort zone.

lamb
09-08-2006, 12:56 PM
I was also under impression that the Exotic sub can be upgraded. It looks like there was a consensus from WCW powers to be, it was going to be noted in the rules, but never actually happened. I guess it’s their call, since they dropped the ball in a way.

I’m all for making the rules that make sense. It makes sense to be able to upgrade on your Exotics just like it makes sense to submit your C&R YT without a tape shot, something we all silently agreed on without formally noting it in the rules. Silly “regulatory” clauses should not be a major thing determining someone’s placement on the list. I think the whole “must be submitted by midnight last day of the month” requirement is quite impractical; we’ve got to re-think that one. There are people that were hurt by that one. I don’t feel good passing them on the list. :cry:

I can reassure you all that I’m having a blast regardless. I’m amazed that I am the 5th on the list – makes me regret all the trips I made on my boat last winter, when I was more focused on bringing meat home and not getting my ass wet then on scoring WCW points… :lol:

I’m cool with whatever, no worries.

Hey A&J, I am flattered that you feel 120 pts lead in September is not enough of a comfort zone… :D Watch out though - I plan to take you down with a flat brown strategy… :twisted:

Game on!!!!

Aaron&Julie
09-08-2006, 01:41 PM
Congratulations to anyone who passes us up for 3rd place, as the rules stood when we joined this contest.
Bending of the rule of a tape shot for a yellow is an obvious dynamic allowance because any size fish is a legal fish. Upgrading an exotic is not, since it involves changing the rule as written and as posted for the last 8 months.
Whatever, it's been fun.

Iceman
09-08-2006, 02:22 PM
If I remember correctly, after further discussion Corey and I decided to leave the mulligan and wildcard as one time and not upgradeable.

lamb
09-08-2006, 04:09 PM
If I remember correctly, after further discussion Corey and I decided to leave the mulligan and wildcard as one time and not upgradeable.

Well… I’d say it would have been much, much better if you guys didn’t keep that among 2 of you. :lol:

I just re-read the rules thread – what both of you posted on the subject of upgrading exotic (mulligan was out of the question the whole time) would quite clearly indicate the opposite. I’m sure majority of us would share that impression, even A&J.

The other fact is that the “official rules” have never been changed. I got the impression that is what A&J emphasized in their post, and I’m with them on that.

Chris, Adi and Brad (the only 3 people that had an exotic sub so far) may have been under the impression you can upgrade exotic based on what the WCW powers to be commented. Not cool.

Chris may be OK – he put the big tuna under his belt.

I already said I’m cool, but that’s just me.

I am a righteous man, and this whole situation is not quite right (in my honest opinion). Not that he needs any upgrades, but this will directly limit Brad’s ability to possibly upgrade his exotic. I know for sure that Brad, just like I did, thought that the exotic could be upgraded. How could you not based on what was said in “WCW 2006 Rules and Registration” thread?

Messy...

But it's still fun... :lol:

madscientist
09-08-2006, 04:25 PM
If I remember correctly, after further discussion Corey and I decided to leave the mulligan and wildcard as one time and not upgradeable.

That was never stated.

I asked for a clarification,
you (Andy) said you thought it should be allowed if Corey agreed,
he posted that he agreed,
NO ONE RAISED ANY OBJECTIONS AT THE TIME,
there was never a post to the contrary,
and NOW you are telling us you decided that the original stands.
A decision that directly benefits 2,3,& 4 at the expense of 1, 5, and an upwardly mobile 9.

Do you really want to go down this road?

I don't see how any reasonable person could have read the rules thread and walked away with anything other than the impression that the rules had been adjusted. In fact, you said you liked the idea. Corey did too. How can anyone know you changed your minds.

madscientist
09-08-2006, 05:15 PM
I just re-read the original rules, and nowhere does it explicitly state that the EXOTIC must be submitted in the month in which it is caught. Since pictures are pending, one could make the case that the exotic is inherently upgradeable.

I raise this not to get into a hypertechnical legalistic discussion, but simply to show that it can be parsed both ways. Ultimately, it comes down to the type of competition this is meant to be:
one where "winning" is all that matters and "fun" is determined not by your own achievements, but by others failures,
or one that celebrates the sport and the thrill of the big catch.

I thought I signed up for the latter, whatever the rules are interpreted to be. Hope I wasn't wrong.

WCW Moderator
09-08-2006, 06:59 PM
asked for a clarification,
you (Andy) said you thought it should be allowed if Corey agreed,
he posted that he agreed,
NO ONE RAISED ANY OBJECTIONS AT THE TIME (including A&J),

I may have made a mistake. I honestly don't remember for certain. I had it in my head that the mulligan and wildcard were the same situation. Let me talk to Corey and see what his take on this is.

Andy

Aaron&Julie
09-09-2006, 06:14 PM
you (Andy) said you thought it should be allowed if Corey agreed,
he posted that he agreed,
NO ONE RAISED ANY OBJECTIONS AT THE TIME (including A&J),

That's because we were unaware that rule change discussions were taking place. Not everyone who entered this contest views every topic discussed or posted. We don't. We initially only posted in the reports section and WCW monthly pending/final submission. If a rule was going to change AFTER the contest began, ALL participants should have been made aware (via PM or other means) of a possible change, allowing for feedback, then. Our position would have been the same then as it is now. You don't change rules once the contest is started. A fine example is the Steve Moyer Tournament. Jim Sammons removed the "bass division" for lack of support. He gave all participants an opportunity to back out and get their money back, before the tournament began. He didn't make the announcement after people had already hit the water.

A decision that directly benefits 2,3,& 4 at the expense of 1, 5, and an upwardly mobile 9.
It seems like there is only one person pushing this issue and one other who is mostly in support of it (to change the rule). Being 2 out the only 3 people to have caught an exotic, they would be the only ones currently who benefit by changing the original rule, as it stood in the beginning, and posted for the last 8 months. This would be at the expense of 2, 3 and 4.

THE MULLIGAN: Each angler will be allowed a ONE TIME opportunity for the year to submit 2 fish of the same species in the same month. For example, an angler may submit ONE of species A, ONE of species B, and TWO of species C one time over the course of the year.

EXOTICS: Each angler will also be given the opportunity to submit one of the following species ONE TIME PER YEAR for 3 points per pound in addition to the regular monthly submissions: albacore, bluefin tuna, yellowfin tuna, bigeye tuna (yeah right), dorado, and ocean-caught salmon (any species).

How can you interpret it any other way? One time means one time.
Neither rule states multiple submissions or upgrades are allowed.
Next year would be a great time to amend this, not in the middle of the current contest.

madscientist
09-10-2006, 07:25 AM
You miss the point. Everyone I know was operating under the assumption that the rules had been amended. The comment I made to Adi that got this whole shitstorm started clearly shows that I was under the impression the rules had been clarified back in Jan as we understood it. Are you honestly saying you have never read the rules thread since Jan 10th? Come on.

The rules were ambigious. It was clear that only one exotic would be scored per year. It was not clear exactly how the submission process would work. That's why I asked my original questions, to avoid this type of confusion. The exact same logic was put in place to allow monthly upgrade submissions. The monthly upgrade was NOT in the original rules, but in the thread. If you oppose the one change you must oppose the other, and everyone's upgrade submissions should be disqualified. Don't want to be dishonest.

The bigger point is that this should be about fishing. Neither Adi nor I are pushing the rules change NOW. We are asking that the reasonable view prevail and that we not be punished or constrained because we believed the moderators in the thread. To argue the opposite is to try and prevent someone else from fishing, a position I find less defensible and contrary to the spirit of the site and the contest. No one is harmed under the amended rules. You are just as able to go catch a tuna, then catch a bigger one, as anyone else. It's all about the fish!

It should be pointed out that this is a hypothetical at this point. It is sad that such an issue has to be made out of such a thing. The greatest aspect of last year's WCW was the camarderie and sense of shared accomplishment. Andy, Arne, and I all shared bait and info in the last weeks, despite being locked in a very tight race. I think we all wanted to win, but we wanted to win based on our own actions, not due to other's failings, and certainly not due to a technicality. Otherwise, it's just a silly contest with a pretty tiny payout.

lamb
09-10-2006, 12:10 PM
When I said we should use this thread to give each other crap, I really didn’t mean this BS. :roll:

A&J, you keep looking at things from your own perspective. The fact you stated that you haven’t read Andy’s and Corey’s response on Brad’s very specific clarification question doesn’t help the fact that some of us, like Adi, did read it. Can you not consider that? It would be helpful if you would fairly judge the impact of now suddenly ignoring what was clearly said in Rules and Regulations thread (is there more appropriate place?!?). People that posted their exotic under impression that it can upgraded later on would be cut short in a way. You seem to be primarily worried about keeping your comfort zone, you stated that. I would say the example with Jim Sammons changing the bass rules is quite contradictory – dropping was announced on the thread of the web, just like the clarification on exotics was. I’m sure any bass fishermen who read the original rules and didn’t read the update later on would argue that.

I’m sure we could beat this to death but there’s no point…

This is rather messy situation; I just hate to see it. We all know very well WCW is not perfect when it comes to having all legal wording in rules and regulations. The last two years, this silly game has been evolving based on input that all of us have been providing. Imperfect as it is, there is still written trail and a timeline on clarification of exotics submissions. We don’t need lawyers to interpret it – realistic judgment of any WCW player without consideration of how that would impact their own standing on the list ought to be sufficient.

We have a history of WCW moderators/members sailing smoothly. That’s mostly because we’ve managed to keep this “honest objective brotherhood/sisterhood” vibe. There’s many other things that are not quite perfect, yet we never had problems with as we all keep that fair and objective spirit. The more I see how stubbornly and passionately A&J hold their ground, more I want to see the tape shot of their released 22+” bay halibut from the tail to the jaw, not the head only. :twisted: I’m not saying anything, I’m just bringing this up as another example of "legal-admin" imperfection that moderators never enforced, and none of us ever had a problem with. No one ever raised the stink as we trust each other. We ought to be able to trust the moderators when they say something. Arguments like this are hurting that spirit. :cry:

No matter what Justice’s Wyrick stand on this ends up being, some people will be unhappy. That part sucks the most.

I’m not worried about anyone’s placement on the leader list, including my own. I am very worried about WCW keeping its integrity. We have too little people signing up as it is (I still didn’t figure that one out). The last thing we need is to loose someone because of their own interpretation of this “legal-admin” crap. This is silly fishing game and it ought to be fun, c’mon.

WCW Moderators – maybe we should throw a quick Poll and ask all people that play WCW 06 what’s their objective take on this. Ask everyone to consider the history and cast the vote - let the majority decide what’s the fair interpretation of exotics upgrade? A couple of people who have direct or vested interest arguing is quite nonsense. This is like friken Bosnia – Serbs, Croats and Bosnians having conflicting interpretations of the same story.

If A&J will accept that and if it’ll help settle this, I have no problem with NOT upgrading my exotic even if the final word ends up being that you can upgrade, and I happen to catch one by the end of the year.

Just trying to help here…

Iceman
09-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Just curious, but if the three that have submitted were given the opportunity to withdraw their wildcard,(NOW) would that put us all in the same arena?

I honestly think the arguments for both sides are valid.

Sorry we created this lil mess.

madscientist
09-10-2006, 03:18 PM
Just curious, but if the three that have submitted were given the opportunity to withdraw their wildcard,(NOW) would that put us all in the same arena?

I honestly think the arguments for both sides are valid.

Sorry we created this lil mess.

Ask me after San Carlos.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

...but you still won't get an answer. It's beside the point. Make a call, piss off whomever, and let's get this BS over with. I have learned much about integrity, and lack thereof, and frankly no longer care either way. We know what's what, and who's who, and silly rules change none of it. I'm going to keep fishing with my NY attitude (the one that shares numbers and bug and rockfish spots with people I think are decent) because that's what I like to do, and anyone who let's "winning" become the basis of their fun is, in my opinion, missing the real point.

lamb
09-10-2006, 10:09 PM
Just curious, but if the three that have submitted were given the opportunity to withdraw their wildcard,(NOW) would that put us all in the same arena?


What kind of fish is "withdraw your wildcard" and is it good to eat?

:D

Aaron&Julie
09-11-2006, 11:24 AM
We are very sorry for our part in beating this subject to death. There are two sides, we stated ours based on the Moderator's response on September 8th...
or a 50lb tuna might just get you up in the money!

I think Adi will be regretting using his (1 time) wildcard after San Carlos in a few weeks
...and then Brad's response:
I thought we could upgrade.

Now our integrity has come into question. We did read the thread about exotic upgrades, sometime in March or April. Our interpretation after looking at the rules was that it never was officially changed. Iceman's response on Sept 8th...
If I remember correctly, after further discussion Corey and I decided to leave the mulligan and wildcard as one time and not upgradeable.
...told us that we weren't the only ones confused on this subject.
Even later the same day, it was unresolved, as noted by the Moderator's response to Brad:
asked for a clarification,
you (Andy) said you thought it should be allowed if Corey agreed,
he posted that he agreed,
NO ONE RAISED ANY OBJECTIONS AT THE TIME (including A&J),

I may have made a mistake. I honestly don't remember for certain. I had it in my head that the mulligan and wildcard were the same situation. Let me talk to Corey and see what his take on this is.

All of our posts after that were responses. We didn't make this personal or want to initiate any bad feelings. We are not "missing any point" and do see the other side of this discussion, not just our own perspective. I guess we are as "pigheaded" as anybody (see this post) when it comes to dropping the subject.
We don't appreciate slanderous innuendos.
Also, since it seems to be the norm, our taped shots usually show only the tail of the fish. In the future, we will to the best of our ability, should a live halibut flopping on our deck allow, try and take full body shots of our C&R'd fish.
We are hoping the Moderator makes the announcement that it is OKAY to upgrade your exotic, or NOT, to end this subject. Right now, we don't give a flying hoot, one way or the other, and allowing an exotic upgrade is not going to bother us.

Again, our apologies for our contribution on taking the fun out of this yearlong tournament. We will continue to be just as generous as we've always been with our own techniqes, experiences and locales. We've made it a point to try and be helpful to anybody who asks us through a PM, open board, or on the beach after fishing, about what works for us.

madscientist
09-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Corey, Andy, please....end this!

lamb
09-11-2006, 10:36 PM
Ha, you thought Justice Wyrick has spoken?!? :lol:

I think we pissed corndawg off…

And now he won’t even talk to us. :lol:

Corey
09-12-2006, 10:38 PM
OK, sorry to let this go on for so long. First I would like to apologize for our failure to clarify all of this at the beginning of the year when this conversation first began.
Our original intent with the wild card submission was to make the competing angler choose whether or not to make a final, non-upgradeable submission during the month of the catch. After our much discussed statements on this thread, we discussed this matter further and decided that we would prefer to stick with our original intent and not allow upgrades to the wild card. However, we failed to publicly state this decision, and therefore caused several anglers to submit wild card fish under the premise that these submissions would not be final and could be upgraded at a later date. Therefore, I feel that the only fair way to resolve this issue is to allow the wild card submission to be upgraded. This gives each angler the same opportunity, and does not take anything away from any angler on the board.
Currently, to my knowledge, no anglers have a wild card fish with which to upgrade , so this decision may well end the year as a moot point. And as I stated previously this decision gives every angler in the contest the same opportunity to catch an exotic, post the wild card submission, catch a bigger exotic, then upgrade the submission.
Again, I apologize for our oversight and I hope everyone still wants to play our silly little game.

have fun,

corey

Iceman
09-14-2006, 07:27 AM
The Lord and Master Corn has spoken. We did not find this an easy one to resolve. The final decision is the one we believe is the one that is true to the spirit of WCW. 8) as there have been other deviations of the original written rules. Nothing is ever written in stone among friends. :D

Holy Mackerel
09-14-2006, 07:54 AM
I hope everyone still wants to play our silly little game.

have fun,

corey

I want T-shirts next year, or I am not playing!! :P

Welcome back to San Diego Corey! 8)

Chris

PS: Shirts with Andy's design would be radical!

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/Iceman619/slamcopy.jpg

Aaron&Julie
09-14-2006, 10:50 AM
Whew! Glad that's over with :wink: .
Play on.

lamb
09-14-2006, 05:31 PM
...true to the spirit of WCW. 8)

STRENGHT AND HONOR!!!

This has always been “catch me if you can” sorta game.

Stand up and say… Andy, I think we both need to catch 50# pelagic.
And I hear there is this...
Damn, is Brad on that trip too? :lol:

Hey Dave Ken (can I buy u a scale please) Dan Chris Ryan Dave Dave Tyler Mike Matt…

Hey MATT!!!

Is the game on or what? :lol:

Iceman
09-15-2006, 06:45 AM
Adi, this was caught on Monday

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6986/imagen2679lj6.jpg

If you are really into catching Dorado,then ride, fly or any means possible get down to San Carlos. Borrow your buddy boat or beg someone to take you fishing. Even if you need to charter a boat, Do it! and do it now.
Because of Hurricane John, there is a five square mile of trees and cactuses all over this area, and under these structures are the biggest dorado that have been seen in the sea of cortez. There are many large bulls that weigh over 40# and some so big that you just wonder if the water and sun are playing tricks with your eyes.
Its imperative that you keep both eyes peeled for logs both on the surface and sunken below the surface so that you dont become stranded out there . I highly reccomend that you charter a boat and let them worry about their props. you will have to travel about 30 to 35 nm on a 225-240 last seen forrest. good luck and good fishing. tod


And this was posted yesterday:

Great news! I got a report from a friend who got into some 40-50# fish out there! Glad I will be there before "Lane"!

Tight lines, Smokin' drags, and Groanin' rods!!!!

FISHIONADO
09-15-2006, 07:03 AM
Hey Dave Ken (can I buy u a scale please) Dan Chris Ryan Dave Dave Tyler Mike Matt…

Hey MATT!!!

Is the game on or what? :lol:

Only 4 months remaining, I'm going to try really hard to break into the top 10. If you see me on the water offering you a beer I'm really just trying to slow you down. :lol: Good luck everyone!

madscientist
09-15-2006, 08:05 AM
WOW, that's some big dodo's. Guess I'll have to take the heavy gear. And re-tie all my leaders on the water in case they happen to get "nicked" :P .
Man o man, would a paddy stacked with those things be fun. But will spectra slice through a cactus or a log? :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:

lamb
11-01-2006, 08:07 AM
Brad just sucks... :lol:

Great suspense for the rest of the gang in the top!

November belongs to the Scorpio.

I know Masta Andy... :lol:

I'm a Scorpio myself... :twisted:

GAME ON!!!

tylerdurden
11-01-2006, 10:06 AM
Congrats Adi! You earned more points this month than I have all year :shock: . Look out this month, some of us still have a mulligan to play and may take the trip to use it. Now if only I could get the hali's figured out like John.

oh yeah, I should have entered Patricks big wsb as mine since no one can tell us apart anyways :roll:.

madscientist
11-01-2006, 01:09 PM
Brad just sucks... :lol:

Great suspense for the rest of the gang in the top!


GAME ON!!!

Hey, that's not a nice thing to say about your bad lamb teammate. :wink:

Is 210 points enough to rest on? I think not, what with you clowns down there. 8) Remember Adi, you need to pre-fish the Tday tourney (from your boat).

I predict some more shake ups in the top 10. That devout baitfish guy still has his mulligan, and the big 'buts seem to be chewing. The big YT should be just about ready to show as well. Good luck and good fishing to all down the home stretch.

WCW Moderator
12-01-2006, 07:12 AM
Tyler, nice 100 point month! I think this was the slowest month on WCW record. Tylers CnR YT keeps the WCW YT streak alive. 23 consecutive months of local recorded yellowtail catches. That is amazing!

Hope 06 ends with the big bruisers .

tylerdurden
12-01-2006, 01:24 PM
Tyler, nice 100 point month! I think this was the slowest month on WCW record. Tylers CnR YT keeps the WCW YT streak alive. 23 consecutive months of local recorded yellowtail catches. That is amazing!

Hope 06 ends with the big bruisers .

Thanks. Just doing my part :D . Do you consider Baja yt to be local, or do only SD based yt count for the 23 month streak? That is still one hell of a streak for the plastic brigade either way. This is 6 straight months with a yt for me, a personal record. I will try and make it 7 this weekend.

FISHIONADO
12-07-2006, 07:32 PM
How is it going to end? Brad's 210 point lead seems safe. The race to watch will be for second, Adi has a 53 point lead over Andy but has Andy played his wildcard yet? Aaron and Julie are both within striking distance of third or higher if they find a wildcard. Several of us are trying to finish in the top 10, watch out Dan and Dave. :pirat: This should be on the Versus outdoor sports channel.

Ryan The Sealion
12-16-2006, 02:38 PM
Nice thread you guys got going :roll: :lol: I gotta few weeks to try and sneak back into the top 10...I think I fished from my yak less than 5 times in the past 3 months :(

Dan
12-20-2006, 09:21 AM
Nice thread you guys got going :roll: :lol: I gotta few weeks to try and sneak back into the top 10...I think I fished from my yak less than 5 times in the past 3 months :(

kick back and enjoy the holidays--no need to fish--you pychobilly rat rodder! :D

lamb
12-23-2006, 05:06 PM
Bond, James...


007 and counting...


:bball:

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