MLPA Meeting Sept. 10th

[Holy Mackerel]

The LAST RSG meeting where we can influence some boundary lines for the semi-final 3 maps will be held on September 10, 2009 at the Sheraton Gateway Hotel in Los Angeles.

Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel
6101 West Century Boulevard · Los Angeles, CA 90045
Phone: (310) 642-1111 · Toll-Free: 866-716-8130

http://www.sheratonlax.com/

We cannot let up, please attend!

1. Chris


Edit to add current information at the top of the thread:

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Questions:

1. WHEN will we be able to see detailed maps of the (draft) revised proposals so that we can comment on specifics??

2. Will there be a new member of the BRTF now that DB resigned?


http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp)

California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative
South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group
Draft Meeting Agenda
(revised August 28, 2009)
* This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability,
please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or

Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Public Participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately one day after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp) for more information.

Public Comment: The public will be invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 9:00 AM on Thursday, September 10, 2009. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.

Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp)

Meeting Objectives
• Provide an opportunity for the SCRSG to review and discuss the near final draft MPA proposals
• Develop final round of marine protected area (MPA) proposals to be forwarded to the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) and MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF)
• Discuss next steps for presenting the final round of MPA proposals to the BRTF

Meeting Agenda – 7:00 PM Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
I. Draft Final Round 3 MPA Proposals
A. Presentation of Draft Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
Recess


Meeting Agenda – Thursday, September 10, 2009
Note: The SCRSG will hear public comment at approximately 9:00 a.m. and will break for lunch at approximately 12:00 p.m.

Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
II. Updates
B. MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team
BRIEFING DOCUMENT B.1: Memo on Persistent and Maximum Kelp – Handout Placeholder
C. MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force
D. MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group

BRIEFING DOCUMENT D.1: Key Outcomes Memorandum from the August 3, 2009 SCRSG Meeting – Handout Placeholder
E. Public Outreach and Education
BRIEFING DOCUMENT E.1: Suggestions for Effective Public Comment – Handout Placeholer

III. Final SCRSG MPA Proposals for Round 3
F. Guidance for Completing Round 3 Proposals
G. Preparing for MPA Proposal Presentations to the BRTF

Recess – Work Group Breakout Sessions
IV. Final MPA Proposals
H. Presentation of Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
V. Closing Comments
Adjourn
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[Grego]

I'll be there, hopefully the AC works a little better that day.

[Matt]

I am in Chris!!!!

[tylerdurden]

I'm there.

[Holy Mackerel]

BWE members, this is going to be the anti-fishing members turf, we need to show up. There will be a sea of blue shirts, I suspect, they will drag their teen kids, like they did at the SD meeting. Most of which probably could care less about the MLPA, and are more interested in texting, and their Ipods was my observation.

Please rally!

Let's follow Maggie's lead and wear Green, try and drown them out, we are Conservationists too.

[Matt]

Anybody got a kid we can borrow???:biggrinjester:

[so cal shaggy]

You can add mine and Erika's name to any meeting list, we are fully cimmitted to every meeting. There will always be one of us there.

[gabe]

I will be there wearinga green shirt

Gabe

[rastrev]

I still have a few sick days i need to burn before the end of the year, count me in.

[kurt]

I'll be there.

[Matt]

Hey Chris what times are the meetings????

[SeaDog]

I'm in, and have a couple seats if anybody needs to carpool from the OC. Just be warned I've been told my car smells like fish.

[JrBasser]

I haven't been able to get to any of the meetings, but would love to attend for the final blow. There will actually be very few teenagers unless the conservatists plan on pulling their kids from school that day. I am willing to skip the day if I can catch a ride!

Fallon? Siebler? Anyone else near east county?

[CurtyL]

I'm there. Maybe I'll even talk this time.

[tylerdurden]

the meetings themselves will go all day. We don't find out about public comment time until ~10 days before hand. You know, when it's too late to give your work 2 weeks notice about time off :rolleyes:.

[dgax65]

I'll be there.

[Matt]

Yea Jr. asser you can ride with me! Worst case scenario we can just tie you to the racks!:D

[JrBasser]

much respect ;)

[kurt]

Bump.

[so cal shaggy]

BUMP!!! We need to fill this meeting and the next upcoming meetings in Oct.

[Tman]

Again???? :D

Depending on the time to speak, he is out of school around 2:30, prob not early enough to still make the drive...

I should be able to make it though.

Anybody got a kid we can borrow???:biggrinjester:

[Dan]

i'm going.

[habanero]

I'm in!
I was thinking maybe we should wear blue shirts as well in order to neutralize? :biggrinjester:

[tylerdurden]

Bump :jig:

RSG meeting in September is their last one we can comment on.

BRTF meeting October 20-22 is the last BRTF meeting. This is where they decide which map they like the best, or they combine maps to make the one they like the best.

December 10th the F&G commission approves a final map of closures. It will most likely be the one the BRTF likes the best.

Only 3 more meetings guys, then this is all over.

[Corey]

I'll be there for sure.

[Willy]

I thought having matching shirts made a strong impact at the previous meetings when we all wore black.

Black isn't a good choice for obvious reasons.

Let's all agree on a color to wear to we can visually show our solidarity.

The facists are wearing blue now?

Do we wear red? Green? Firetiger?

Willy

[tylerdurden]

bump again guys.

We are making a positive difference as kayak fishermen. Lets keep it up.

The only way we have been able to make a difference is by showing up. Why stop now. Only 3 more meetings.

[Holy Mackerel]

Bump, let's not drop the ball.

September 10th , 2009
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 West Century Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90045
September 10: Meeting

If someone can get there on Sept 9th, there is no public comment, but can do some intel on what the maps will be looking like, that would be helpful. Send me a PM.

1 of 2 meetings left!

[buttchaser]

See ya there ,

Pm sent Chris.....

[Holy Mackerel]

weekly bump! :)

[comrad_zeelaagee]

i requested the day off. i'm as good as there.

[tylerdurden]

Bump again guys.

It is 2 weeks and a couple days away. Last chance to get those vacation requests in. I hate spending my vacation days attending bs like this, but if I don't do it now, I won't be able to take vacation days to fish local after this year.

We need guys that can speak in a coherent and logical manner, without losing their cool. If not, please cede your time to someone who shares your views and can follow the rules. It is just as important as speaking yourself.

[Rob929]

We need guys that can speak in a coherent and logical manner, without losing their cool. If not, please cede your time to someone who shares your views and can follow the rules. It is just as important as speaking yourself.


I agree, losing your cool is counterproductive to everyone's efforts. Nothing wrong with speaking with some passion, but be respectful about it.. as most guys were at the last meeting.

Otherwise.. I may need to ride up with someone that day. I live in Mission Valley area/ Allied Gardens, anyone near by going?

[tylerdurden]

Bump

We can arrange carpools on this thread. If you need a ride post up. Also there should be one on BD.

September 9th and 10th the stakeholders meet to get final maps

October 20-22 the BRTF meets to combine the maps to come up with their favorite.

December 10th the DFG commision makes their FINAL decision and it's all over.

That's it. It's almsot over. Now is the time to be even more involved, not rest on the efforts you and others have already made.

[Billy V]

Bump again guys.

It is 2 weeks and a couple days away. Last chance to get those vacation requests in. I hate spending my vacation days attending bs like this, but if I don't do it now, I won't be able to take vacation days to fish local after this year.

We need guys that can speak in a coherent and logical manner, without losing their cool. If not, please cede your time to someone who shares your views and can follow the rules. It is just as important as speaking yourself.

The Power Point Presentations are very effective, I hope to see more of them.
Perhaps from the Spearo Perspective as well.
-Those guys face the same doom as us, but have certain unique needs.

It all comes down to leaving our safe and productive area open and accessible.

[Holy Mackerel]

The same 4 people should not be continually bumping this thread!! Let's see some people bump this thread with their support, and committment to attend this meeting!!!!

[so cal shaggy]

Bumpity bump bump bump.

[kurt]

Already got the day off. Anyone know when the public comment is?

[tylerdurden]

Don't know what time public comment is yet. ~10 days before hand we should know. I'll post up as soon as I find out.

[Holy Mackerel]

Already got the day off. Anyone know when the public comment is?

Public Comment: The public will be invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 9:00 AM on Thursday, September 10, 2009. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.

[steveooo]

In.

[LipYanker]

Do you have the Times?

[LipYanker]

What is the start time for the meeting?

[LipYanker]

Oops, Disregard those time questions... I did a closer inspection of the thread. Have to sneak in reads while at "work". Free bump anyway.

[Holy Mackerel]

Here is the full agenda, I put up a new thread, but now figure everyone is looking here...

Questions:

1. WHEN will we be able to see detailed maps of the (draft) revised proposals so that we can comment on specifics??

2. Will there be a new member of the BRTF now that DB resigned?


http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meeting_091009.asp)

California Marine Life Protection Act Initiative
South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group
Draft Meeting Agenda
(revised August 28, 2009)
* This facility is accessible to persons with disabilities. To request reasonable accommodations for a disability,
please contact California Relay Service (at least two days prior to the meeting) at 800.735.2929 (TTY) or

Wednesday, September 9, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Thursday, September 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Public Participation: Members of the public are invited to attend the meeting in person or may view and listen to the meeting via simultaneous webcasting on the Internet. Video and audio archives of the meeting may be accessed via the Internet approximately one day after the meeting. Please visit the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp) for more information.

Public Comment: The public will be invited to provide general comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (SCRSG) at approximately 9:00 AM on Thursday, September 10, 2009. Speaker cards are requested and may be found at the entrance to the room. Time allotted for public comment is determined by the number of requests and can range from one to three minutes per comment; submitting written comments that can be easily summarized in one to two minutes is encouraged. Note that the public comment period is for comments specific to the SCRSG; comments related to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force, science advisory team, or other MLPA Initiative activities should be directed to those bodies or MLPA staff.

Meeting materials will not be provided at the meeting but will be posted to the MLPA website as soon as they are available. This agenda may be found on the MLPA website at http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp (http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/meetings_sc.asp)

Meeting Objectives
• Provide an opportunity for the SCRSG to review and discuss the near final draft MPA proposals
• Develop final round of marine protected area (MPA) proposals to be forwarded to the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) and MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF)
• Discuss next steps for presenting the final round of MPA proposals to the BRTF

Meeting Agenda – 7:00 PM Wednesday, September 9, 2009
Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
I. Draft Final Round 3 MPA Proposals
A. Presentation of Draft Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
Recess


Meeting Agenda – Thursday, September 10, 2009
Note: The SCRSG will hear public comment at approximately 9:00 a.m. and will break for lunch at approximately 12:00 p.m.

Welcome, Agenda Review and Brief Introductions
II. Updates
B. MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team
BRIEFING DOCUMENT B.1: Memo on Persistent and Maximum Kelp – Handout Placeholder
C. MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force
D. MLPA South Coast Regional Stakeholder Group

BRIEFING DOCUMENT D.1: Key Outcomes Memorandum from the August 3, 2009 SCRSG Meeting – Handout Placeholder
E. Public Outreach and Education
BRIEFING DOCUMENT E.1: Suggestions for Effective Public Comment – Handout Placeholer

III. Final SCRSG MPA Proposals for Round 3
F. Guidance for Completing Round 3 Proposals
G. Preparing for MPA Proposal Presentations to the BRTF

Recess – Work Group Breakout Sessions
IV. Final MPA Proposals
H. Presentation of Final SCRSG MPA Proposals by Work Groups
V. Closing Comments
Adjourn
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[bellcon]

BUMP
You know
reading all the fishing reports from LJ and Alaska (you know who you are)lately is killing me
(first yellow, personal best, double hook ups, multiple fish)
The "voices in my head" are saying go go go
My time will come

But you know what is REALLY killing me
the lack of guys committed to the SEPT. 10th. meeting

We have 21 guys on the list at Baytubers
Deduct a couple from that (Chris and Shaggy...)
and we have a pitiful 18-19 guys???

How many here?

All we have to offer are our
Time, Talents or Treasure
What are you putting up?

Thanks to the guys pushing the meetings.
Thanks to the guys working behind the scenes.
Thanks to the guys donating $.
Thanks to the guys attending who dont post.
Thanks to the guys who will make this their FIRST meeting.

Fug the rest of you:mad:

This meeting is in LA, I know thats a long drive for many of you
Just pretend you live in LA and are making the long drive to a hot bite at LJ:D,

[zenspearo]

It's my wife's birthday but I'll be there.

It's either face the wrath at home for a day, or regret for a lifetime that I didn't do all I could.

[Tman]

Part of me is sick of dealing with this nonsense, part of me wants to truly express my thoughts in the 30-second time span of 'extensive public input', and part of me knows this is for the sake of future generations...

I'll be there.

[LipYanker]

Well Gents, I put in my request for the day off. We'll see how that goes, I dont see any reason why I wont be able to show up and support. I dont see myself speaking but hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

[Holy Mackerel]

Well Gents, I put in my request for the day off. We'll see how that goes, I dont see any reason why I wont be able to show up and support. I dont see myself speaking but hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

Thank you very much for sacrificing a precious vacation day! I know it definately sucks to use them for this!! I am sure you will be rewarded with some Karma: :wsb::lobster::yt:

hopefully my "menacing" presence will help.

btw, I am sure you are joking, but put on a smile while at the meeting. We need to maintain professionalism, albeit, very difficult once you view the circus for the first time.

thanks again... and....

BUMP!!!!

[C. Cary]

Count me in.

I definitely want to get on a carpool.

C. Cary

[Holy Mackerel]

BUMP!:reel:

[nunyabizness1]

Get in on the action! Attend the awareness event this weekend and join in the caravan of trucks and boats on trailers with posters and banners as we Join in with your yak on your vehicle! We all need to be a part of this!

Check out the link for info and post on the thread below that you will be there:

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/marine-life-protection-act-initiative-mlpa/159417-mlpa-here-time-act.html#post1467282

http://www.bloodydecks.com/bdhosted/MLPA-Header.jpg (http://www.bloodydecks.com/bdhosted/MLPA-Header.jpg)

Is that clear enough?

The MLPA process is almost over and it’s not looking good for the fisherman by ANY measure. TO BE CLEAR, if you are a fishermen this IS going to change where you fish and what you catch for the WORSE. This WILL put landings, tackle stores, marinas and charter boats out business. This WILL take jobs from honest, hardworking people who do what they love for a living.

What can you do?

There are two more KEY dates left in this battle. It’s NOT too late. YOU can still make a difference.

We need YOU. YES YOU! Plain and simple we need BODIES to win this battle.

The first event you can attend is your local AWARENESS RALLY. There are currently three of these organized for this Saturday September 5, 2009. PLEASE come out and bring your trailer boat, kayak, etc. with you for a PEACEFULL drive around your local Marinas and Launch Areas. There will be flyers, stickers and banners available to dress your vehicles up for the rally. PLEASE make every effort to attend and GET YOUR BUDDIES involved.

Here are links to the events:

San Diego -
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-5-2009-a.html (San Diego area MLPA "Awareness Event" Sat. Sept 5, 2009) (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/marine-life-protection-act-initiative-mlpa/158446-san-diego-area-mlpa-awareness-event-sat-sept-5-2009-a.html)

Meet at South Shores Boat Launch at 9 am. We will leave at 10 am, hit Dana Landing and Shelter Island along the way and return to South Shores for a BBQ/Potluck. Caravan Leaders: Maggie aka Nunyabizness1 and Mike aka Mikeylikesit

Orange County –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-sept-5th.html (Orange County MLPA "Awareness Event" Sept. 5TH) (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/marine-life-protection-act-initiative-mlpa/158603-orange-county-mlpa-awareness-event-sept-5th.html)

Meet at Glenn's Tackle Shop parking lot - 1145 Baker Street, Costa Mesa at 9:00 am and leave by 10 am sharp. Caravan Leaders: Bobby Gowin and Paul Romanowski



Los Angeles –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ember-5-a.html (Los Angeles Area MLPA "Awareness Event" September 5) (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/marine-life-protection-act-initiative-mlpa/158599-los-angeles-area-mlpa-awareness-event-september-5-a.html)

Meet at the Belmont Shores Pool Parking Lot, Belmont, CA at 9:30 am. We will leave at 10 am sharp and end the caravan event at Marina Del Rey Boat Launch for a BBQ/Potluck event! Caravan Leader: Dean Morrow aka Bank Robber

Please visit this thread to sign up for the potluck by location: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fi...ml#post1467092 (MLPA Event--TAILGATERS) (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fishing-hunting-recipes/159240-mlpa-event-tailgaters.html#post1467092)


These Rallys are all to raise awareness for the LAST PUBLIC MLPA MEETING on September 10, 2009 . IF YOU ONLY DO ONE THING for the MLPA battle, PLEASE BE AT THIS MEETING.

Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

If you would like to learn more about the MLPA Process, please see www.YesFishing.org (http://www.yesfishing.org/)

If you would like to discuss the MLPA and get up to the minute news, please see Marine Life Protection Act Initiative (MLPA) - (http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/marine-life-protection-act-initiative-mlpa/)

I know a lot of you are BURNT on the MLPA issue (myself included!) but this is the final stretch and we need one last push! The awesome angler turn out at the Santa Ana meetings truly made an impact. It’s time to make ourselves seen and heard AGAIN.

Thanks very much for your support.


Ali Hussainy
Bloodydecks, LLC

[Gino]

Im in i could use a carpool!! i live right near the 405! will pitchin for gas!

[nunyabizness1]

Im in i could use a carpool!! i live right near the 405! will pitchin for gas!

Post on the thread link for the location you are interested in... hopefully you can find a carpool!

[Stoneale]

Hi, this is my first post. I have been browsing the forums for sometime now. I don't even have a kayak yet, but I fish every other day in the Dana Point harbor.

Anyway.. Does a blue SMCA spot mean we can still fish in that area? Or..

Thanks.

[Holy Mackerel]

Hi, this is my first post. I have been browsing the forums for sometime now. I don't even have a kayak yet, but I fish every other day in the Dana Point harbor.

Anyway.. Does a blue SMCA spot mean we can still fish in that area? Or..

Thanks.

Please attend this meeting on the 10th, and you will meet a lot people there to answer your questions. It is never too late to get started in this process, hope to see you there.

FWIW:

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/defs.asp#smca

<DT>State Marine Conservation Area [36700(c) PRC]

<DD>A "state marine conservation area," is a non-terrestrial marine or estuarine area that is designated so the managing agency may achieve one or more of the following:


protect or restore rare, threatened or endangered native plants, animals or habitats in marine areas;
protect or restore outstanding, representative or imperiled marine species, communities, habitats and ecosystems;
protect or restore diverse marine gene pools;
contribute to the understanding and management of marine resources and ecosystems by providing the opportunity for scientific research in outstanding, representative or imperiled marine habitats or ecosystems;
preserve outstanding or unique geological features; or
provide for sustainable living marine resource harvest.
Restrictions [36710(c) PRC]: it is unlawful to injure, damage, take or posses any specified living, geological or cultural marine resources for certain commercial, recreational, or a combination of commercial and recreational purposes. In general, any commercial and/or recreational uses that would compromise protection of the species of interest, natural community, habitat or geological features may be restricted by the designating entity or managing agency.

Allowable uses [36710(c) PRC]: research, education and recreational activities, and certain commercial and recreational harvest of marine resources may be permitted.
</DD>

[Stoneale]

Wow.. so I guess blue means no fishing as well. When they say Dana Point, I wonder if this would include the harbor too.

I will be there to help fight this.. I guess I will hold off on buying a kayak for now. No point in buying one if I cant even go out and fish in it.

You can bet the MLPA's are going to pass. These rich people who want this to pass have probably never spent anytime fishing or diving and can really care less about the economy or the hobbie.

:mad:

[tylerdurden]

bump.

Blue does not always mean no fishing. Every blue zone is different. Some allow all take of finfish for recreational anglers.

[SeaDog]

bump