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October 2nd 2010
"The Swiss Cheese Reef"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a30r1YPqZFo
T Bone
10-02-2010, 03:48 PM
I can measure them, I can F--- em I can do whatever I want ,THEY'RE MY LOBSTER!!!
CLASSIC !
I know they are hardcore about lobster,if they werent we wouldnt have any on the coast by now.He went straight for his gun though...:D:cheers1:
SGV Rookie
10-02-2010, 03:50 PM
Nice job pissing off a warden! That's a good way to show him how kayak fisherman do things. He had a good question based on his training and experience! He does lobster checks all the time and probably has learned that those who measure upon land or upon contact have undersized lobster. I love all your videos and think you are great at what you do, but firing back with attitude only causes more trouble! I loved the lobster excitement in the video but I also like that you didn't post BWE all over it!
Dave
Nice job pissing off a warden! That's a good way to show him how kayak fisherman do things. He had a good question based on his training and experience! He does lobster checks all the time and probably has learned that those who measure upon land or upon contact have undersized lobster. I love all your videos and think you are great at what you do, but firing back with attitude only causes more trouble! I loved the lobster excitement in the video but I also like that you didn't post BWE all over it!
Dave
Yes Dave, I ONLY came back with attutude when i was approached with it from the get go.I give the utmost respect when i receive it in return..no matter what man, with or without a gun..I do realize he is only protecting the better good of the jewel, and all fisheries around for that matter, but you do NOT have to approach one in that fashion..
Why do u think that camera was specifically rolling before he came up...I knew he would be hot to write anyone ticket, and as you hear him say, he has met me before..Because of the nature of this footage, I will be removing it later, but thought a few would like to see how nice our Game Wardens are to people who release monster fish & 3 1/4" bugs in this very video..
Nic D
10-02-2010, 04:21 PM
that particular warden = douche
so Wade... maybe I could get that cooler back now.... preferably not empty!
But not until I get back from Hawaii on thursday
Thx for sharing, learned a lot.
premo
10-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Wade, you should measure warden too.:D
fishinkid2010
10-02-2010, 06:13 PM
I can measure them, I can F--- em I can do whatever I want ,THEY'RE MY LOBSTER!!!
:hahaha:
That was great Wade! I'm 100% on your side!!! Congrats on the nice bugs too!
GregAndrew
10-02-2010, 06:17 PM
I gotta agree with Dave here. That is a typical law enforcement approach it seems to me. They put you on defensive so that if you are hiding something you are more likely to slip up than if you are calm and relaxed. And, you have to admit that you gave him cause for concern by remeasuring on the beach. Gotta remember that he has probably seen all kinds of guys land with no measuring device or think they can transport to the beach/dock to measure. It is aimed at the guy that is hiding something and the rest of us just have to suffer through it. If you had just come back with " You can never be too sure", I am sure the entire episode would have been much lighter. Once you realize that this is a typical approach, it becomes amusing. Believe me, I was pissed off on more than 1 occasion when approached like this before I noticed a pattern. It is a small price to pay for keeping poachers at bay (or is that away from the bay?).
deepdvr
10-02-2010, 06:32 PM
I'm just surprised he missed all those shorts you had stuffed in your bong. :biggrinjester:
You kicked ass that night wade. One day, when I grow up, I want to be a buggin machine just like J Wade. :notworthy:
It was a really good idea to toss that one bug that was a coin flip on being a legal. No doubt you would have gone rounds with him on that sucker.
T Bone
10-02-2010, 07:22 PM
I have been Dying to go toe to toe over a bug that is actually 3 1/4 on the $ instead of waiting till they are 3 5/16.I had 2 last night like that.And I swear the tail on one of them was as big or bigger than the keepers.I kept one until I got an unquestionable keeper and then wussed out...
Billy V
10-02-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm not sure you can actually fk the lobster - but he didn't dispute that as being illegal either. :lobster:
- Get ready lobster - here it comes - scream if you want to. :)
FISHIONADO
10-03-2010, 07:22 AM
If you measured them 100 times already why are you measuring them on the beach near the water? It just looks really suspicious. Not hating, just sharing a different opinion.
"I'm a conservationist, I'm an animal rights activist, I'm a vegan". WTF? What were you trying to say?
Gigafish
10-03-2010, 07:25 AM
Nice set for your first outing of the season.:lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobste r:
RedSledTeam
10-03-2010, 07:29 AM
Is that 'Power to the people' by B. Marley I hear in the background? :you_rock::you_rock::you_rock::cheers1::luxhello:: luxhello::luxhello: :biggrinjester:
If you measured them 100 times already why are you measuring them on the beach near the water? It just looks really suspicious. Not hating, just sharing a different opinion.
"I'm a conservationist, I'm an animal rights activist, I'm a vegan". WTF? What were you trying to say?
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I was measuring them for their tuxedo alterations..The inseams were just too tight..
We were supposed to go out for a nice seafood dinner, but I didn't take into account their recent molting...:biggrinjester:
So what your essentially saying is that i should stand down at all times,especially when I am obeying all laws, & put my tail between my legs when i am treated like an jerk by some schmuck with a shiny little badge, eh?..
thats not gonna happen...not in a hundred years...
WTF is right!?!
If you cant understand why I was measuring them...
Well then, you sure aren't going to even begin to comprehend why I am a Conservationist...
(Yes it does look extremely suspicious i admit. completely.you are right 100% there.)
But,...You dont treat innocent law abiding Kayak fisherman with rude and harassing behavior from the start..I was way up on the beach not near the water, so I wouldn't have been able to throw them into the water btw..As you heard, he has met me before, and I told him that EXACT same damn line upon his consistent rude choice of wording his questions previously, and tried to put him at ease by introducing myself and explaining my views, similarly like an honorary member of the dfg..& as always especially on opening night you can be 100% guaranteed He will be measuring my bag no matter what I was doing..
You can come down on me all you want about how I might make the kayak fishing community look bad from this, but it is His attitude and behavior that needs a check..or a firing! Note to Johnny Law: in case your reading this: Become a full fledged Cop. That is your true calling..They need to start hiring some new agents with at least a High School diploma and some decent people skills..What happened to the days where they were once as knowledgeable in the field as a Marine Biologist ect.. I used to fully enjoy talking up a storm to those types of agents for hours on end!..This asshole on the other hand, comes across that EVERYONE is doing something illegal and he will treat you as such, until one proves without a shadow of a doubt that in fact you are completely innocent..He is the only one making the FEW decent DFG agents look bad..Had I been in the bushes, digging a hole, stuffing my shorts with shorts, stashing them in my hull,selling them on the beach,tailing them, or serious suspicious behavior like so,...THEN he can come up and taze me, shoot me, harass me or whatever he feels necessary in that case scenario..until then, use some discretion Professor Theology..
What he should have done was approached me and said something like the following:
DFG-"Hello Guys, Hows this Season Opener treating you? (Politely)
Did you get any decent sized bugs tonight?
I have to inspect your catches, please.."
(something to that degree)
Response:
"Why Yes Sir! We had a GREAT night!
Feel free to do as you would like...."
& a nice DFG closing like:
"Way to go guys, thanks again.. enjoy your bugs!!!"
(would have been nice departing comment ..)
Instead.... he was honestly pissed off that we were following all laws and regulations & he didn't get to write a precious ticket..that is the problem here.....
1mea·sure
1
a (1) : an adequate or due portion (2) : a moderate degree; also : moderation, temperance (3) : a fixed or suitable limit : bounds <rich beyond measure>
b : the dimensions, capacity, or amount of something ascertained by measuring
c : an estimate of what is to be expected (as of a person or situation)
d (1) : a measured quantity (2) : amount, degree
I think I will now go into the trash and dig out the rotting carapaces and measure them just one more time for "good measure"...:biggrinjester:
FISHIONADO
10-03-2010, 10:33 AM
Still not hating, but it sounded like you threw one back because it was questionable size. Was that at the hoop net or at the beach?.And which animal are you an activist for. Peace, seriously, but you shared on an open forum and it's an interesting topic.
Still not hating, but it sounded like you threw one back because it was questionable size. Was that at the hoop net or at the beach?.And which animal are you an activist for. Peace, seriously, but you shared on an open forum and it's an interesting topic.
Still not hating, but it sounded like you threw one back because it was questionable size. Was that at the hoop net or at the beach?.And which animal are you an activist for. Peace, seriously, but you shared on an open forum and it's an interesting topic.
I know your not hating boss:cheers1:im just worked up from them, not u..
just stating my position for clarity.
I threw many lobsters back that were 3 1/4" spot on that night!!!.
Not 3 & 3/16..
3 & 1/4".
I only keep ones that are over 3 1/4" , & I filed my gauge down with a metal file on both side of my caliper!...
again I did nothing wrong, i NEVER threw anything away on the beach.
@ exactly 2:16 seconds you will see me & hear me say:
"He just made it, He is JUST 3 1/4"
(100% legally able to be kept by California Regulations)
@ 2:23 seconds, I drop it in the Pacific and released him...:lobster:
( & that was just 1 out of over probably 10+ that night fyi)
& @ 4:17 seconds you will hear me tell him again that:
"& Every time I am going to make it clear that you guys are a bunch of Natzis"!.......:biggrinjester:
(My personal beliefs, religion, diet and lifestyle, are well...kinda personal.
I don't preach them to Anyone or really even discuss for obvious reasons.. Unless confronted in such a manner as to defend my actions..
In person/on the water I wouldn't mind boring you to death if you should really be inquisitive as to my campaigning...:cheers1:
FISHIONADO
10-03-2010, 11:19 AM
Cool, I'm interested, I'll bring the beer.
Whizz Bang
10-03-2010, 11:35 AM
Again I stumble across yet another post I gotta reply to, even if it is from the other side of the world. To those of you who are defending the warden on this....:the_finger:. Some of you know what I do, a very few perhaps. I did not swear an oath to defend this country so that the kid who was bullied in school could go on a power trip. I have been briefed by both local law enforcement and federal agents. This mentality and approach is often utilized by all agencies. Similar to pulling in tight behind someone and swerving in their lane, causing your eyes to follow, your hands to follow your eyes, and giving them an excuse to pull you over.
I really dont want to hear about how this guy is preserving LJ with his BS tactics, or about duty or sacrifice, or even that the ends justify the means. I dont know how many mortar rounds/rockets/IEDs/or small arms fire he has dodged protecting our jewel from poachers, but I am pretty sure I got him beat. Again, no excuse. Good on ya Wade. F'em.
FISHIONADO
10-03-2010, 11:53 AM
I'm a veteran, my dad is a veteran, my two brothers are veterans, and none of us would ever talk that way to any game warden or DFG officer. Still appreciate your service in Bumfukistan, seriously.
Whizz Bang
10-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Yeah Fish, I know, I see it all the time in the Army, Navy, and Marines. The blind allegiance to anything resembling an authority figure is prevalent and symptomatic of the big military. Thankfully, the Special Operations community teaches us to think for ourselves. Thanks for your support and your family's service. Seriously.
:you_rock: check your pm. don't delete it, overzealous agents should be shown off since they mar the reputation of the agency as a whole. They should remember who pays their salary.
Aaron
10-03-2010, 01:18 PM
I'll preface this with this...I like ya Wade. You may not be able to put a face to my screen name, but we've crossed paths a bunch out there. Your videos are fun. I've given you bait on the water. We've pulled on fish at the same time. Its always more lively on the water with you out there. You're a good guy. So nothing personal...:sifone:
Officers (DFG, police, military, etc.) are trained, both by formal and real-life training, to identify problems. I'm not going to walk around outside of a bank with a skimask and a trenchcoat on, writing notes on small pieces of paper to myself and then get pissed if a cop comes up to me and says "Don't even think about going in that bank." You don't even need to be a cop to get an analogy like that. How about you see me walking around your car with a pry bar and a flash light looking in the windows. I'm pretty sure you'd send a "What the fuck do you think you're doing?" my way. And it would be well deserved.
By the looks and the sounds of things (a reason you gave for measuring them on the beach was, "I measured them again because I knew you were going to hit me up."), you were measuring them because you saw DFG and wanted to make 1000% sure that you were 10000% legal (which is COMPLETELY understandable). We all know you and we've all seen you throw back some pretty rad fish. Huge props for how much you respect that fishery. But to that warden who probably isn't a BWE member and only knows you from a few similar interactions on the beach, you're just another guy on the beach trying to measure his catch when it's already too late. Who knows what he had to deal with just prior to approaching you. I think he said it perfect with his Shakespearean quote; "Me thinks thou protests too much."
BTW, Can someone point out exactly what the warden said that was so incredibly inflammatory? Its always a bit odd to me when people say that the officer didn't talk to them nice enough. Its even more peculiar when they make that statement after they've cursed, laid out their life's work, and called the officer a nazi. Try that with a real douchebag nazi cop and you'll be paying for the dent on the hood of the car made via your face when you "tripped and fell and landed on it", all according to the police report of course. I'm just saying, there are d'bags and their are D'BAGS. This guy saw something suspicious that he's probably seen a thousand times from guys that do not have the same integrity as Wade, and jumped on it. That resulted in two guys, both with valid points, having a heated discussion on the beach. That's it, plain and simple. Doesn't mean that the DFG is ran by nazis.
Wade, killer evening on the water! Enjoy the bugs. And THANKS for ONLY keeping the true keepers. You seemed stoked out there and caught a killer bbq's worth and this shouldn't distract from that. Its really no big deal. I'm sure the warden dealt with worse that night. My personal report...Dove last night in Laguna, everything we handled was borderline except for one that my buddy kept. Vis was about 5-10 feet and the surge was pretty bad where we dove ("Jack in the box" for those familiar with the area). :lobster:
FISHIONADO
10-03-2010, 01:26 PM
You make a lot of assumptions about me and the dfg guy, you have no idea, but I say fuck the little stuff. Hope you get to do the job we are capable of doing or come home soon, either way wish you a long and fortunate life!
T Bone
10-03-2010, 02:42 PM
so,how bout' those Padres?....:)
erinoo
10-03-2010, 05:54 PM
Geez...Wade, I guess it was good that I couldn't find you Friday night. Hey, I could have helped out that night..You know one Warden to another..My animals are a hell of lot meaner than his..:biggrinjester: I only had 4 keepers, not bad for my first time out and by myself. what time did get in? 12:30 for me.....
I like your guys passion. I assume I'll see you all at the public comment for the MLPA.
Wade,
I just can't take it anymore...
"I'm a conservationist, I'm an animal rights activist, I'm a vegan".
How about trying: I'm a Greek, I just want to eat!??
You are my favorite Greek God!!! Wadedisheous!
The God From Lobster Hell.
stairman
10-04-2010, 12:32 AM
Funny thing about wardens.....when you are out in the field with a loaded gun in your hand while hunting I have never gotten any attitude at all.....why is that?
protect our second ammendment!
maui jim
10-04-2010, 06:30 AM
Wade if your gonna f-ck a lobster use alot of butter :D
nice vid.
Lighten up Francis......."I release monster fish and 3 1/4" lobster" ......your the raddest Wade!!!! Hahaha
danny
10-04-2010, 09:33 AM
I 2nd that they are much more polite when they know you are armed.
Siebler
10-06-2010, 01:47 PM
I 2nd that they are much more polite when they know you are armed.
So not true, I know from a lot of experiences with DFG, CBP, and SDPD.....
Oh well big deal. a Little confrontation is the spice in life.
maui jim
10-06-2010, 03:29 PM
so,how bout' those Padres?....:)
I grew up In SD and went to few Padre games:D....I tired of hearing about the Angels and Dodgers:p
stairman
10-06-2010, 07:05 PM
So not true, I know from a lot of experiences with DFG, CBP, and SDPD.....
How so not true......I can say the sun won't rise tommorow but you'll want proof.Give us the wisdom of your expiriences?
I have been "in contact " with probably forty cdfg agents in the past forty years and have sees a trend towards armed stop and quetion expieriences being polite and agreeable and non armed ones having a different flavor....and yes by the same agents.Tell of your expiriences,don't just disagree.
I stand behind what I have observed.When approached by a wary dfg agent when armed they are very polite and respectful of your rights.
This is not a coincidence.
Defend your second amendment rights with your votes!
To get off subject....A while ago I made a comment deriding liberals at the lj kayak launch site....One kayak fisherman spoke up and said he was a liberal.Which in this day and age makes you a democrat voter.I was extremely curious how someone could vote for the peope that want to close down lj to fishing....the mans answer was not logical or cogent.
When you go to the ballot box in november remember who and what party is the one party that wants to shut down your fishing and releasing what you don't need.Vote appropriately to what will directly affect your life....not some pie in the sky perfect world.If you want to continue to fish lj and you vote for the ex governor you might as well sell you kayak for much less then it will otherwise be worth....but then you have lotsa money right?
Politics is a bitch....freedom is worth the price.
FISHIONADO
10-06-2010, 07:20 PM
Arnold Swarchenegger is a Republican... an inconvenient truth to your beliefs.
How so not true......I can say the sun won't rise tommorow but you'll want proof.Give us the wisdom of your expiriences?
I have been "in contact " with probably forty cdfg agents in the past forty years and have sees a trend towards armed stop and quetion expieriences being polite and agreeable and non armed ones having a different flavor....and yes by the same agents.Tell of your expiriences,don't just disagree.
I stand behind what I have observed.When approached by a wary dfg agent when armed they are very polite and respectful of your rights.
This is not a coincidence.
Defend your second amendment rights with your votes!
To get off subject....A while ago I made a comment deriding liberals at the lj kayak launch site....One kayak fisherman spoke up and said he was a liberal.Which in this day and age makes you a democrat voter.I was extremely curious how someone could vote for the peope that want to close down lj to fishing....the mans answer was not logical or cogent.
When you go to the ballot box in november remember who and what party is the one party that wants to shut down your fishing and releasing what you don't need.Vote appropriately to what will directly affect your life....not some pie in the sky perfect world.If you want to continue to fish lj and you vote for the ex governor you might as well sell you kayak for much less then it will otherwise be worth....but then you have lotsa money right?
Politics is a bitch....freedom is worth the price.
deepdvr
10-06-2010, 09:04 PM
Arnold Swarchenegger is a Republican... an inconvenient truth to your beliefs.
:doh:
Stairman - Rather than spewing the political rhetoric, how about committing to the October MLPA meeting????
DFG agents have a shit job. I don't think I'd want to be hunting down scumbag poachers and doing license checks all day long, especially for what they get paid. Can they be more cordial and customer service oriented? Sure they can. But, it always takes two to tango.
Some smart dude said, "more bees with honey". I'm bringing a big ass jar of it to pour on all those blue shirt MLPA huggers http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo163/ericedb/Smilies/Backstab_emoticon.gif
danny
10-06-2010, 09:13 PM
if Arnold Swarchenegger is a Republican then i am the pope.
Ya know I've been stopped by dfg and harbor patrol more times than I care to recall and not once have I ever had a problem, they've checked my catch and always have been polite as have I........and never had an issue in fact they've even old me places that they have seen high counts....guess politeness counts still
Wade, judging from a few on the water encounters, the video reports and your posts, you are a man with strong convictions, real character, and an intense dislike for bullshit. Good on you. Let the rest of the clones march in lockstep. Btw. what's the deal with the full face burka?
Thanks for the macs last time I saw you.
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