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PAL

12-01-2010, 08:00 AM

What a long, hard road! It ends in just two weeks in Santa Barbara, Dec 15, 9 am at the Hotel Mar Monte on 1111 East Cabrillo Blvd.

Yes, it's another stick in the eye for the working man, but that's nothing new for this wretched 'process.'

We've come so far together. The enviros hate us for keeping their greedy hands off every inch of La Jolla. We have to see this through, so we can call them on any last second dirty tricks.

FINISH STRONG

The PSO / UASC / SAC attorneys are coming, with a stern message for the Fish and Game Commission. The state didn't appeal that public records act lawsuit Bob Fletcher won. This thing isn't going to end on Dec 15, even if Julie Packard, Meg Caldwell, the Deal the Bay and Coaststealer people have 3 yes votes in the bag. Come see for yourself.

We need to protect what we've fought for in La Jolla, we need to support the common-sense commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists the free divers. They've stood by us.

More info as the meeting approaches. Stand up for your way of life; stand up for your sport.

ROLL CALL
1. Paul Lebowitz

Tman

12-01-2010, 12:02 PM

We've come so far together. The enviros hate us for keeping their greedy hands off every inch of La Jolla. We have to see this through, so we can call them on any last second dirty tricks...
The PSO / UASC / SAC attorneys are coming, with a stern message for the Fish and Game Commission. The state didn't appeal that public records act lawsuit Bob Fletcher won. This thing isn't going to end on Dec 15, even if Julie Packard, Meg Caldwell, the Deal the Bay and Coaststealer people have 3 yes votes in the bag. Come see for yourself.
We need to protect what we've fought for in La Jolla, we need to support the common-sense commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists the free divers. They've stood by us.

ROLL CALL
1. Paul Lebowitz
2. Martin
3. Clay (possibly, have to check schedule)

I hope I get a chance to have a word or two with Ken..:D

Tman

12-01-2010, 06:15 PM

This from Keep America Fishing...forward to friends, family, etc...let's inundate the DFG...

Process to Close Sportfishing in California Nearing Critical Final Vote
Send in your comments to the Fish and Game Commission prior to the December 15-16 meeting asking for the suspension of the South Coast implementation process (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=G0mgusVL4I5gAn3Ez7Q%2FHE%2Fbidv8por%2F)

The Situation
During its upcoming meeting, the California Fish and Game Commission could vote to enclose approximately 15 percent of southern California’s coastal waters within marine protected areas (MPAs), including many of the most popular fishing spots, under the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) process. This critical vote comes at a time when concerns about the MLPA process continue to escalate. A recent court ruling (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=H%2Bii2aDvTMYoDKIBwMvKS0%2Fbidv8por%2F) validates long-held concerns about the secretive ways in which the groups implementing the MLPA have been making decisions. The meeting is being held December 15-16, in Santa Barbara .

The MLPA process has been plagued by numerous issues which have not been resolved, including:

The lack of a transparent and open decision making process
Inadequate resources for enforcement and biological monitoring
A process that side-steps a science-based fisheries management approach that clearly identifies the threats to California ’s marine environment

Touted as “ecosystem protection,” the MLPA only targets recreational fishing and its significant economic contributions to California’s economy all the while ignoring the litany of significant threats to California’s oceans, such as sewage outfalls and storm water runoff, agricultural chemicals and other pollutants, ocean acidification, ocean side development and once-through cooling.

The Department of Fish and Game estimates that the MPA regulations will cost California ’s taxpayers $40 million annually for enforcement and biological monitoring – resources that the state simply does not have. With a current deficit of $26 billion, California cannot afford to adopt costly measures that will only work to limit recreational fishing access which provides employment for 20,000 Californians.

How You Can Help
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Given the numerous serious concerns surrounding the process, please send a message to the California Fish and Game Commission (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=H%2Bii2aDvTMYIT6NgekaLOE%2Fbidv8por%2F) urging them to suspend the South Coast MLPA implementation.

Visit www.KeepAmericaFishing.org (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=nAOWXPH01RSrnxXTOD9YsE%2Fbidv8por%2F) for more information on the MLPA.

Thank you for doing your part to help KeepAmericaFishing!

FISHIONADO

12-01-2010, 08:25 PM

I'll be there, thanks for the heads up.

FISHIONADO

12-02-2010, 10:37 AM

Anyone want to car pool? Only need one car so far....

PAL

12-03-2010, 08:11 AM

Two replies. Come on BWE, we're better than this.

Even if most of you can't make it between the holidays and the miserably inconvenient time and location, there should at least be activity on this thread.

As a community, we sacrificed much to hang onto a big chunk of La Jolla. That work isn't quite finished.

At the very least, send in those letters, and if you're the religious type, maybe you better start praying. With this limp showing, we're going to need divine intervention to hold the line.

Man up! This silent act is weak.

kurt

12-03-2010, 08:35 AM

Letter sent. No more vacation days or sick days, so I doubt I'll make this one. But I'll try.

PAL

12-03-2010, 12:05 PM

Thanks Kurt. Who's next!

Jim Sammons LJKF

12-03-2010, 01:31 PM

Letter sent and I will do my best to get there. May need to share a ride

Holy Mackerel

12-03-2010, 03:44 PM

I used all my time for the other meetings, my current cold :rolleyes:, and the birth of my 2nd baby a couple months ago. Trying hard to sound like I am not making too many excuses, but I am tapped out. I'll try for a hail mary, but anyone else, that can make it, should roll. It is a long drive, but this is it... thanks for those that can attend, and fight us! :you_rock:

wade

12-03-2010, 04:05 PM

sent,..... get yours in tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mash Up The MLPA!

C. Cary

12-03-2010, 04:25 PM

Letter sent.

kayakhunter

12-03-2010, 09:41 PM

Message Sent.

PAL

12-04-2010, 10:37 AM

Thanks guys! Keep those letter rolling...

cowboybill

12-04-2010, 09:13 PM

Not sure if I can make it....Letter sent, will see what I can do.

:jig:cowboybill

premo

12-04-2010, 10:08 PM

message sent

bellcon

12-05-2010, 08:53 AM

Gonna do my best to get to another wonderful
meeting
I miss those Eco freaks painting us as the bad guys
I miss the commisioners rolling their eyes when we make a valid point
I miss Mr. IamnotsuchaWiseman being passive aggressive and trying to pay back real men (and women) for the treatment he recieved on the playground has a child
I miss the wackos from La Goona preaching about the need to close their entire coastline from those terible fishermen and spearos
I miss witnessing innocent children being indoctrinated by panty wearing men and unshaven women, in the name of "education "
I miss waiting 10 hours to speak for 1 minute
I miss some lite in the loafer kook telling Charles V. To shut up
I miss seeing Buttchaser use a legit big word.... And a bunch of sissys crying foul because they never heard the word used before
I miss sitting a room full of people, many of whom need a swift hard kick in the ass... And having to fight the urge to deliver that kick... Even though it really seems like the right thing to do .

I really miss all the time, money and effort put in by SO FEW
and then listening to other guys whine and complain about what they have done before or how they feel unwelcome at the meetings...

Yep
I miss so much about these puke inducing meetings

so I will do my best to get to this one
"the last one"

Big thanks to Chris, Tyler , Billy and Paul for motivating guys from San Diego,
we would have been fugged beyond belief it wasn't for all your hard work

and to all the new faces here at BWE
step up boyz, pay some dues
these meetings can create memories of a life time for you!

And you never know... You may just become part of some secret "code group" that shares precious info about big fish fishing...

Hypoxic1

12-05-2010, 09:38 AM

My schedule in the past hasent permitted me to make the last meeting and I dont see how I can help but I will be at this one. I was at the carlsbad meeting and it seemed like such a cluster###

But I dont see how any of us can bitch about it if we dont make a final show of support for these guys who have been so comitted to preserving our rights.
Its a drive yes, but SB is also a nice place to have to drive to. Thank god it aint in Sacramento.
I will be at this one Paul, for at least the day. Thank you for all you have done for the rest of us.
Chris Lewis

12-05-2010, 11:25 AM

letter sent thank you

This from Keep America Fishing...forward to friends, family, etc...let's inundate the DFG...

Process to Close Sportfishing in California Nearing Critical Final Vote
Send in your comments to the Fish and Game Commission prior to the December 15-16 meeting asking for the suspension of the South Coast implementation process (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=G0mgusVL4I5gAn3Ez7Q%2FHE%2Fbidv8por%2F)

The Situation
During its upcoming meeting, the California Fish and Game Commission could vote to enclose approximately 15 percent of southern California’s coastal waters within marine protected areas (MPAs), including many of the most popular fishing spots, under the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) process. This critical vote comes at a time when concerns about the MLPA process continue to escalate. A recent court ruling (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=H%2Bii2aDvTMYoDKIBwMvKS0%2Fbidv8por%2F) validates long-held concerns about the secretive ways in which the groups implementing the MLPA have been making decisions. The meeting is being held December 15-16, in Santa Barbara .

The MLPA process has been plagued by numerous issues which have not been resolved, including:

The lack of a transparent and open decision making process
Inadequate resources for enforcement and biological monitoring
A process that side-steps a science-based fisheries management approach that clearly identifies the threats to California ’s marine environment

Touted as “ecosystem protection,” the MLPA only targets recreational fishing and its significant economic contributions to California’s economy all the while ignoring the litany of significant threats to California’s oceans, such as sewage outfalls and storm water runoff, agricultural chemicals and other pollutants, ocean acidification, ocean side development and once-through cooling.

The Department of Fish and Game estimates that the MPA regulations will cost California ’s taxpayers $40 million annually for enforcement and biological monitoring – resources that the state simply does not have. With a current deficit of $26 billion, California cannot afford to adopt costly measures that will only work to limit recreational fishing access which provides employment for 20,000 Californians.

How You Can Help
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Given the numerous serious concerns surrounding the process, please send a message to the California Fish and Game Commission (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=H%2Bii2aDvTMYIT6NgekaLOE%2Fbidv8por%2F) urging them to suspend the South Coast MLPA implementation.

Visit www.KeepAmericaFishing.org (http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=nAOWXPH01RSrnxXTOD9YsE%2Fbidv8por%2F) for more information on the MLPA.

Thank you for doing your part to help KeepAmericaFishing!

T-Rex

12-05-2010, 11:29 AM

Modified letter sent. Going to try to make it, but my work schedule is not looking good. That's the reason these MLPA dog and pony shows are scheduled for weekdays - the full time paid activists and bussed in kids don't feel any economic pain by attending, anyone with a regular job does. It's all part of the corrupt MLPA process.

dgax65

12-05-2010, 08:12 PM

I'm going to make every effort to make this meeting.

dfroggy54

12-05-2010, 09:00 PM

Sent...I wish I could make this one...ill try and make it up.

Aaron&Julie

12-05-2010, 09:07 PM

Hey Paul,

We won't be able to take the trip up north, but the letter has been sent for each of us. Kudos to all those who make the trip on behalf of all of us.

To reiterate, because I didn't find the link until going to Tman's 2nd post, the link is:

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6394/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2847

It is so simple to do. You should be ashamed to call yourself a fisherman/woman, if you don't at least spend 30 seconds to send this letter.

I'm sending this link to everyone in my address book, regardless of whether they are a fisherman/woman. If any follow-up with the letter, that's more ammo for us.

Billy V

12-05-2010, 09:47 PM

I'm way too pissed and disgusted to say anything...

- Not at any of you guys - at the whole fkn situation.

zenspearo

12-06-2010, 12:35 AM

My schedule sucks but I'll be there.

We'll put in a word to make sure they move the Scripps MPA boundary to address that pier issue. We don't dive there much (too sandy/sharky) but we're interested in keeping it open as much as possible (so you guys can kayakfish away from our diving area, J/K).

For those who can make it, thank you and we spearos will see you there again.

Cheers.

Fiskadoro

12-06-2010, 12:55 AM

....and then listening to other guys whine and complain about what they have done before or how they feel unwelcome at the meetings....

Whoa.... Now that's the way to encourage people to go!!! :you_rock:

Reverse psychology right! Very clever. Why don't you just threaten to beat up everyone that shows up that you do not like, that should bring a ton of fisherman to the meeting.:sifone:
.

That said: To EVERYONE!!!.... like Paul said: "We need to protect what we've fought for, we need to support commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists."

I don't care who you are, or what you have done in the past: Truer words could not be spoken!!!

Though at this point the maps are probably as settled as if they are drawn in stone (at least as far as the fisherman are concerned), the envoros are still pushing for more. This is still our last chance to get our voices heard, and everyone should attend if possible, if for no reason to counterbalance all the other idiots who will definitely be there to the detriment of our cause.

Stand up for your way of life; stand up for your sport. Make your voice heard one more time!!!

Jim

bellcon

12-06-2010, 05:48 AM

Bump
:cheers1:

FISHIONADO

12-06-2010, 06:58 AM

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IntrntFshrman

12-06-2010, 07:29 AM

Letter sent.

chris138

12-06-2010, 08:43 AM

I sent in my message through keepamericafishing with a few select revisions. Thank you to those who are making the trip up to do battle with the special interest groups and santa barbarians!

Aaron&Julie

12-06-2010, 10:09 AM

Paul,

In addition to sending the link for the letter to everyone in my address book, I also posted the link on facebook with a request for additional letters/support for all who fish, or love someone they know fishes. Maybe others will do the same so we can get all the support we can before this meeting. Giving people the actual link makes it easy for them to do.

I know my efforts have resulted in at least one extra letter being sent so far. That is better than none, and I expect more support after a couple of days.

Again, for simplification, the link is:

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6394/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2847

...send it out, everyone.

Aaron

StinkyMatt

12-06-2010, 06:15 PM

I can not bus any of my students into something like this. They are busy learning in school.

I did however provide some information about this crisis to my students. To date I have 5 confirmed letters sent by my kids/ and or their parents.

I regularly talk to my kids about my (and their) fishing adventures. In my opinion, MOST young people (fifth grade) liked fishing or would like to try it.

Suggestion: Talk to people at your workplace about what is going on, you will be surprised about how many people support fishing/ hunting rights.

Question?
Has there ever been an afternoon or weekend session/ meeting? If not has that issue been brought up?

PAL

12-06-2010, 08:10 PM

It's encouraging to see some action in this thread. Thanks for those who've sent letters or stepped up big by asking friends and family to do so too. The letter response is very good so far. Please pile on!

We need more people at the meeting. I'm asking you to dig deep, and find a way to get there even if you can't stay all day. We need more people to cede time. For those new to this deal, you normally get one minute to say what you have to say. If several other people (often 10) donate their time, you get more.

If you can make the trip and sacrifice your time, you'll be very pleased with its destination. Very. Contact me directly if you need more info. I'm not going to post it in the open.

I have room for two in my truck on the 15th. The downside is you'll be stuck up there all day, through the bitter end. On the other hand, there's bound to be drowning of sorrows / celebration of points scored with a couple of solid old-school kayak anglers from up north.

^During a Blue Ribbon Task Force / Stakeholder phase there was one evening meeting, and it was heavily attended by the fishing public, most of whom work for a living. That meeting went to 1 am! I remember watching as RSG reps from the enviro side snuck away or ducked out early. That one I enjoyed to the very end. The MLPA staff didn't schedule another for obvious reasons.

The Fish and Game Commission NEVER holds meetings outside business hours.

FISHIONADO

12-06-2010, 09:44 PM

Paul, I haven't had any response to my offer for car pooling so if you don't mind I'll ride with you.

zenspearo

12-07-2010, 11:40 AM

Some spearos with SUVs will be at the San Diego car pool lot.

I-5 and Gilman Dr Park & Ride (8002 Gilman Drive, San Diego, CA) at 5AM.

We want to fill up the vehicles with fishermen/spearos to go to the meeting. Let's finish strong guys.

P.S. King Harbor is the location for car pool for LA. So I was told. Details to come.

MVC

12-07-2010, 03:44 PM

I already responded on Baytubers. I will be attending.

PAL

12-07-2010, 04:22 PM

You got it Fishionado. Any more takers? One seat left.

bubblehide

12-07-2010, 06:12 PM

Bump
:cheers1:

Hey Don, this is an anchored thread, just in case you didn't notice.

roby

12-07-2010, 07:56 PM

Letter sent.

I'm new to this whole process. How long does it take? What should I expect? I'm looking at taking the day off of work, but I would like to know how I should plan my day (I gotta give the wifey some kind of agenda). I'm from Los Angeles....thanks.

Electronics Squid

12-07-2010, 09:43 PM

Letter sent and the link and a brief summary of the issues put on FB...

Markus

Fiskadoro

12-08-2010, 05:44 AM

We want to fill up the vehicles with fishermen/spearos to go to the meeting. Let's finish strong guys..... King Harbor is the location for car pool for LA. So I was told. Details to come.

I'm pretty close to King Harbor near LAX. I've got room for one in my truck or I could hop on with someone else for a more comfortable ride and better milage. For tuna trips we usually meet local at the Dinah's Restaurant parking lot in Culver city as it's right next to the 405 easy to get to and has street parking behind the lot that is usually empty in the mornings. They open at 6:00am if anyone wants quick breakfast before the ride up.

Jim

Fiskadoro

12-08-2010, 05:46 AM

...this is an anchored thread, just in case you didn't notice.

Hey!!! No fair pointing out the obvious. That's no way to "Win Friends and Influence People". It looked like it was doing something even if it was somewhat ineffectual, so don't be too critical.

Hmmmmm..... Now why does that remind me of the whole MLPA process? :D

bellcon

12-08-2010, 06:05 AM

Big Bump
:cheers1:

maui jim

12-08-2010, 06:09 AM

Letter sent.......

FISHIONADO

12-08-2010, 07:16 AM

Bump - This thread is not anchored. Hope to see many of you guys there.

Fiskadoro

12-08-2010, 07:41 AM

Bump - This thread is not anchored. Hope to see many of you guys there.

That's weird for me it's the top of five stickies on this board, and not moving.
What settings are you guys running?

Jim

PAL

12-08-2010, 07:45 AM

I'm new to this whole process. How long does it take? What should I expect? I'm looking at taking the day off of work, but I would like to know how I should plan my day (I gotta give the wifey some kind of agenda). I'm from Los Angeles....thanks.

Welcome aboard! Thanks for pitching in when we need all the help we can get to defend our ocean access.

Please plan on arriving to the meeting no later than 8 am, an hour early.

The first thing everyone MUST do is get a speaker card. We should have people handing them out, but if we don't, you'll find a stack of them on a table at the meeting hall.

Decide whether you want to speak or cede (donate) your time to someone else on our side. We have heavy hitters who need it.

If you are willing to contribute your time, fill out the card, then find me or Wendy Tochihara. We'll match you up with a speaker. All those who cede time must be there when the cards are turned in.

If you are going to speak, fill out the card and turn it in to a commission staffer. Plan on 1 minute to address the issue. It could be more or less depending on turnout. This is the final scheduled hearing - expect a mob scene.

We don't know the size of the room. There's a chance it will fill to capacity. Take seats early and up front. If you're there, a blue shirt isn't.

The hearing will start at 9, if it starts on time. After any preliminaries, the public speaking session will start. It could go on for hours and hours. At the last meeting, it ran from roughly 10:15 to 4.

If you are ceding time, you'll be tempted to head out once your card has been turned in. Please stick around as long as you can stand it to lend support to our people. You want to be around for the UASC / SAC / PSO attorneys anyway.

Any more questions, please don't hesitate to contact me directly.

FISHIONADO

12-08-2010, 09:06 AM

What settings are you guys running?

I was on a mobile phone, I see it now. :D

bubblehide

12-08-2010, 09:28 AM

Bigger BUMP!:biggrinjester:

Iceman

12-08-2010, 10:02 AM

Looks like I got work covered.........mmmmmmmm Sambos mini muffins! :D

http://www.sallybernstein.com/travel/with-kids/SambosCA.jpg

JoeBeck

12-08-2010, 10:08 AM

Shiloh and I, both my brothers and parents sent letters. I'm trying my hardest to make the meeting but not looking good. I work in the retail industry typically a tough time of the year to get off. I have to wait until next week to know for sure. Hope there is a good showing!

Tman

12-08-2010, 03:51 PM

Ya just know I'll be there. Not taking the lad out of school for this one, may be too long of a day anyway...though it's well worth it.

I may try to put a speech together and need time ceded, be forewarned though...I recently came down with Tourette syndrome...:D

cowboybill

12-08-2010, 05:04 PM

Damn..... I got a call early this week, I have been called into court on Wednesday, Dec 15th.

I did send a letter....

Thanks to all those going for us!:you_rock:

COWBOYBILL

OEX

12-08-2010, 07:41 PM

OEX Mission Bay is heading north. Olson get the house ready for us!:cheers1:

driftwood

12-08-2010, 09:11 PM

Ok, one more time!
I'll do my best to be there. This whole MLPA thing is just making me....

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2362/1508019800_91887657ce_z.jpg?zz=1

FISHIONADO

12-10-2010, 06:48 AM

Roll Call:

PAL
T-Man
Fishionado
Bellcon
Hypoxic1
dgax65
Zenspearo
MVC
roby
Jim Day
Iceman
OEX MB
driftwood

bellcon

12-10-2010, 01:26 PM

Roll Call Bump

yakrider

12-10-2010, 08:26 PM

I'm there!

mwm

12-10-2010, 08:48 PM

Sent letters. Can't make this meeting. Hang tough Paul & all.

sandydiego

12-10-2010, 10:13 PM

PAL- Thanks for pushing this. More Posters! I'll take my last vacation day to be there.

Steve

T-Rex

12-11-2010, 07:18 PM

I'll be there. Managed to switch a vacation day from Christmas week.

Jim Sammons LJKF

12-13-2010, 04:01 PM

See you all there.

Iceman

12-13-2010, 04:15 PM

I want to beat the traffic. Planning to be sitting down to breakfast at Sambo's about 7am 216 W. Cabrillo Blvd., Santa Barbara, CA

only about a mile up the road from the meeting.

Jim Sammons LJKF

12-13-2010, 04:20 PM

We are really going to beat the traffic, heading up tomorrow afternoon and meeting some friends for drinks. May be a little hung over the morning of the meeting

T Bone

12-13-2010, 04:36 PM

Jim - just stay drunk and give em hell...:)

I cant make this one but I really enjoyed meeting with all of you that went to the doubletree in ontario.It was a trip seeing the parking lot full of kayaks on one side and Toyota Prius's on the other side.

OEX

12-14-2010, 10:13 AM

We are really going to beat the traffic, heading up tomorrow afternoon and meeting some friends for drinks. May be a little hung over the morning of the meeting

Jim

Don't even try to spoon with me either!

Grego

12-14-2010, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jim Sammons LJKF http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/showthread.php?p=70853#post70853)
We are really going to beat the traffic, heading up tomorrow afternoon and meeting some friends for drinks. May be a little hung over the morning of the meeting

Jim

Don't even try to spoon with me either!

You two behave now! I don't want to hear stories of "sore bung holes" while I'm having my coffee! :biggrinjester:

Gino

12-14-2010, 04:42 PM

:cheers1: Bump!

ill be there

PAL

12-14-2010, 07:07 PM

See you diehards there!