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PAL
01-05-2011, 07:56 AM
Remember Rogers, the Fish and Game Commissioner who challenged us to "Bring it!?"

The insufferable buffoon used his position on the commission to insult and belittle anglers. This guy swore up and down that the MLPA was above the law, immune from public scrutiny.

His term is up.

Get him off the commission now! Send a letter to Governor Jerry Brown today!

This is about more than insisting we get a fair shake or getting even. This is our chance to show the new governor that we are paying attention. Remember, the recent MLPA vote was 3-2. Kicking this clown Rogers off the commission means new math.

Here's what Keep America Fishing has to say. Don't forget to follow the link to send the letter. It's easy - get your family and friends on the job too.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6394/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3033

Voice Your Opposition to California Fish and Game Commissioner Richard Rogers’ Reappointment
Rogers’ track record shows he is no friend to California’s sportfishing community

Background

Since his 2005 appointment to the California Fish and Game Commission, Commissioner Richard Rogers has been one of the most vocal supporters of the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative. The MLPA is a controversial marine preservation program that threatens sportfishing in California for anglers and the industry alike by unnecessarily closing large areas of the ocean to recreational fishing. Many California communities depend on recreational fishing for revenue and jobs.

Rogers’ term on the commission is set to expire on January 15, 2011. However, Governor Jerry Brown could choose to reappoint Rogers to another six-year term. Throughout his term, Rogers has consistently ignored the interests of California's anglers and has turned a blind eye to California’s economy.

The five-person FGC, appointed by the governor, has authority to approve and implement hunting and fishing regulations in the state, including those covered under the MLPA. On December 15, 2010, Rogers was one of the three commissioners who voted in favor of a wide-ranging array of marine protected areas, essentially no-fishing zones, along the southern California coast.

What You Can Do

Send the message below to Governor Brown urging him not to reappoint Rogers to the California Fish and Game Commission. Given his staunch support of a program that fails to address the real problems affecting California’s coastal waters, such as habitat loss and pollution, Rogers has failed to fulfill his responsibilities to California’s citizens and its natural resources. The Partnership for Sustainable Oceans believes that Governor Brown should replace Rogers with a commissioner who understands his or her responsibility to both conserve California’s natural resources and take into account the impact of regulations on California’s economy.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6394/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3033

PAL
01-05-2011, 08:06 AM
The sample letter, right here for your convenience. I'm working on getting the direct email address.


Please Do Not Reappoint Richard Rogers to the FGC

I am writing to oppose the reappointment of Richard Rogers to the California Fish and Game Commission. As one of California’s 760,000 saltwater anglers, I am troubled by his failure to address the real threats to California’s ocean resources and his bias against recreational fishing. His strong support for the flawed Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative process, even after disclosures of his participation in non-public meetings where critical decisions were made, renders him unfit to serve California’s citizens.

Further, his cavalier attitude to the loss of jobs and economic losses that the MLPA will cause in these dire economic times demonstrates that he is no friend to working-class Californians. Rogers’ blind dedication to the anti-job MLPA could not be swayed even by a personal plea from Commissioner Jim Kellogg to save “just one fisherman’s job,” especially with our state’s unemployment rate at 12.4 percent.

The MLPA will severely reduce recreational fishing opportunity in California which threatens the 20,000 jobs that it supports. With a current deficit of almost $30 billion, the state cannot afford the necessary enforcement, biological monitoring and public outreach – currently estimated by the Department of Fish and Game to be $40 million annually – of proposed MLPA regulations.

In addition, Rogers has ignored numerous Department of Fish and Game reports that none of California’s fisheries are in crisis. California’s marine fish stocks have improved dramatically over the past twenty years as a result of successful fisheries management practices. In the waters of California, there is not one marine fish stock currently experiencing overfishing and the few stocks still under stress are rebuilding due to strict fisheries management and conservation plans. Fishery management in California is working, and recreational fishing closures are not needed. California’s citizens are better served by focusing on habitat loss and environmental pollutants than denying them the right to access public resources.

Given these numerous concerns, I urge you to replace Richard Rogers with a commissioner who will both conserve California’s natural resources and be mindful of the impact of new regulations on its citizens.

Thank you for your consideration.

tacmik
01-05-2011, 08:37 AM
DONE

WahooUSMA
01-05-2011, 08:41 AM
Done!

kurtfish
01-05-2011, 09:17 AM
The fight continues. I was just ready to make a similar post but I am glad Paul beat me to it as we all know PAL has been such a fearless leader in the MLPA process. Very interesting article in today's Wall Street Journal about the effects of unregualted fishing and urban pollution on the historic fishery of Istanbul's Bosphorus Strait. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704723104576061990776738036.html#p rintMode

The issues of urban run-off, sewage treatment discharge, and commercial water pollution were not addressed in the MLPA process. These land use issues along with unregulated fishing seem to have devastated a centuries old fishery in Turkey. If you are unable to link to this article and would like me to e-mail it directly to you PM your e-mail address to me.

We need to continue to fight the MLPA implimentation that is not addressing the real issues and imposing unfair closures to recreational fishermen.

Happy New Year Kurtfish

cabojohn
01-05-2011, 09:38 AM
Richard Rogers is a douche...I'd love to send a letter to old Gov Jerry "If its Brown flush it down"
I will get on it now....Thanks for keeping us updated.

*donation made to the mlpa legal fund too.;)

JoeBeck
01-05-2011, 09:38 AM
Electronic copy sent. I also suggest you send a hard copy and flood their mail box.

Jerry Brown

Governor, California
c/o State Capitol
Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Jimmyz123
01-05-2011, 10:09 AM
Done.

ratdog
01-05-2011, 10:25 AM
DONE

dsafety
01-05-2011, 10:39 AM
Sent email

Bob

hatchetman
01-05-2011, 10:41 AM
electronic done.
will send USPS later from home.

mtnbykr2
01-05-2011, 10:45 AM
done 2x, don't forget to include your other halves guys...friends family and
the guy standing on the corner if he has an address...hard copy sent to our newest elected "person" in Sacramento

Deamon
01-05-2011, 11:12 AM
Done. Takes less than 30 seconds. Do it! Also forwarded to friends!

Lets_Fish
01-05-2011, 11:29 AM
Sent mine off along with forwarding to additional friends and family.

bigbarrels
01-05-2011, 11:40 AM
done x2...wife sent one too

Ohana
01-05-2011, 11:43 AM
Sent!

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 11:55 AM
Our letters have already been sent. In addition, we started our own post about sending out an email to all of our friends to help against Roger's reappointment.
This did get some additional letters sent about the last MLPA meeting, so it should work again. Send it out to all of your friends, except those loonies you know who really think these closures are necessary and a good thing.

Thanks.

wade
01-05-2011, 12:08 PM
Done!

dsafety
01-05-2011, 01:03 PM
There may be a problem with emails sent from the KAF site. I got a returned email telling me that my original message could not be delivered for the past four hours. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a work around?

Bob

SGV Rookie
01-05-2011, 01:13 PM
Done

GregAndrew
01-05-2011, 01:14 PM
Done. Gonna forward the link to anyone I have provided a fish dinner to also.

SDlocal1
01-05-2011, 01:18 PM
Done

asystole
01-05-2011, 01:47 PM
Done

fknricter
01-05-2011, 01:58 PM
done!

Jimmyz123
01-05-2011, 01:59 PM
There may be a problem with emails sent from the KAF site. I got a returned email telling me that my original message could not be delivered for the past four hours. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a work around?

Bob
Nope, I got a big thank you letter from them. Maybe the site is getting overloaded and had a delay.

Handymansd
01-05-2011, 02:07 PM
Done x4...... ;)

T-Rex
01-05-2011, 02:11 PM
Done. Thanks for the link - it only took a minute.

RK
01-05-2011, 02:14 PM
done

Socalrobt
01-05-2011, 02:28 PM
Done.

PAL
01-05-2011, 02:36 PM
Great work everyone! Let's keep this going!

cabojohn
01-05-2011, 02:47 PM
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"Once upon a time, a guy asked a beautiful girl, "Will you marry me?" The girl said "No!!!" and the guy ended up surfing and skiing alot, went fishing and hunting whenever he wanted, played golf, drank beer and scotch, smoked cigars, had tons of money in the bank and lived happily ever after. The End." :biggrinjester:

Well done sir!:you_rock:

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Deamon
01-05-2011, 03:26 PM
There may be a problem with emails sent from the KAF site. I got a returned email telling me that my original message could not be delivered for the past four hours. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a work around?

Bob

So far...two out of two sent have bounced back...


<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p> </o:p>
----- Transcript of session follows ----- <noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>... Deferred
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old

roadx
01-05-2011, 04:14 PM
DONE!

I just took action on an issue affecting recreational fishing. I encourage you to do the same so that elected officials hear our voice! Together we can unite the voices of American anglers in communities across the country.

For more information, visit www.KeepAmericaFishing.org.

Regor
01-05-2011, 04:21 PM
Done X2

mwm
01-05-2011, 04:23 PM
Sent!

T Bone
01-05-2011, 04:48 PM
Sent.

He did ask to "Bring It"

mtnbykr2
01-05-2011, 04:49 PM
Yea "'D" that happened to me too but it seemed ok from the sight, the
wifes went through ok but I did get the same message went direct to
the site anyway and did it again....b

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 05:43 PM
There may be a problem with emails sent from the KAF site. I got a returned email telling me that my original message could not be delivered for the past four hours. Anyone else have this problem? Is there a work around?

Bob

Yes. I didn't see your message and created a new post indicating the same problem. The message came to my hotmail email address.
When I originally sent it I too had a new page show up Thanking me for sending in the letter, as someone else indicated.
It wasn't until sometime later the failed message sent showed up in my junk folder.
I've attempted to send the letter again, hoping for better results. I don't want to wait up to 5 days for it to get through.

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 05:46 PM
Hmmm. Something fishy with all these failures, that appear to get through according to the KAF website. Not a good kind of fishy. Kind of a MLPA meeting fixed kind of fishy. Ha?
It might be worth checking your email inboxes and junk folders to see if your letter actually made it through. I don't trust that mine did.
The jist is, KAF might be receiving a prompt, and then acknowledging a letter sent. But, these letters may not actually be reaching it to the Governor.

Paul, is there any way we can be assured these are making it all the way through?

dmrides
01-05-2011, 05:53 PM
Email done, sending snail mail.

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 06:13 PM
I had the same results on the 2nd letter sent.
KAF indicates it is going through. But, I'm getting failure notices that they are NOT reaching the governor. It would be so easy for some MLPA computer nut to make this happen.

This is the failure message:
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov>
(reason: 550 Rule imposed mailbox access for noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov refused)

dsafety
01-05-2011, 06:28 PM
Two out of two failures for me as well. I am sure that someone is looking in to this. Whomever that is, please post when the problem is figured out. Here is what my bounce back email says.

The original message was received at Wed, 5 Jan 2011 18:22:22 -0500
from [10.174.82.207]

----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>
(reason: 550 Rule imposed mailbox access for noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov) refused)

----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to qmail2.gov.ca.gov.:
>>> RCPT To:<noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>
<<< 550 Rule imposed mailbox access for noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov) refused
550 5.1.1 <noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>... User unknown

Based on what this message says, it could be as simple as that the automated email generator on the KFA site has the wrong address. Who is noelle.quattrin-roost anyway?

Bob

PAL
01-05-2011, 06:45 PM
Congratulations! Our impressive response took the governor's designated email address down. As early as 1:15 this afternoon, more than 1,000 mails had been sent.

FYI, that email address belongs to one of the governor's staffers.

:you_rock:

Please hold off on Keep America Fishing email site for now while I pass the word.

We'll resume soon.

ctrujillo
01-05-2011, 06:48 PM
sent succsesfully x4

Tman
01-05-2011, 06:55 PM
Welcome to Mr. Rogers' dream hood...after all, he is a waterman not afraid of legal threats...

Start packing...no amount of DFG bouncers will save your ass now...

Letters will be sent by many, and many more to come...esp noting your Q & A rehearsed comments on people that sided with you.

Regor
01-05-2011, 07:02 PM
... while talking to qmail2.gov.ca.gov.:
>>> RCPT To:<noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>
<<< 550 Rule imposed mailbox access for noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov) refused
550 5.1.1 <noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov (wlmailhtml:{F6C42B88-C902-4117-8DC5-FD731785562F}mid://00000099/!x-usc:mailto:noelle.quattrin-roost@gov.ca.gov)>... User unknown
Bob

I just went on and submitted a third time for a family member. Went right through. Seems as though the rejections are specific to a PC/connection?, and not the site itself?

Bob - you may want to try a different machine, work, home, school.

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 07:12 PM
Thanks Paul, for the info, and reply to my PM.

I just sent a follow-up email to everyone in my address book to wait for further notice before giving us their support. That way, if they haven't sent the letter, they won't waste their time doing it for now. When the problem is solved, I will "bug" them again for their support.

We need to win this one.

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Regor,

The KAF indicates they are going through, but they're not. As indicated by Paul (PAL) above the governor's staffer's email address shutdown, probably due to inundation.

Regor
01-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Regor,

The KAF indicates they are going through, but they're not. As indicated by Paul (PAL) above the governor's staffer's email address shutdown, probably due to inundation.

oh, ok.

I have submitted 3 letters and received 3 out of 3 return "emails" thanking me for my submittal.

I took it that those that have failed did not get a return email thanking them, but they received an email informing them of issues with their submittal.

Aaron&Julie
01-05-2011, 07:40 PM
Nope, I received 2 emails from KAF also thanking me for sending the letter x2.
But, once in my junk folder, and once in my inbox, I received the notice of failure of the letter actually making it to it's final destination.
I think KAF is currently indicating success no matter what.

JoeBeck
01-05-2011, 08:46 PM
IT IS EASY TO DELETE AN IGNORE EMAILS. I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SEND HARD COPIES AS WELL. :cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1::cheers1:

They won't bounce back

PAL
01-06-2011, 07:06 AM
GAME ON!

Get those emails going again on the Keep America Fishing website.

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6394/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=3033

If you sent your email in the late afternoon or evening, please send it again.

Keep America Fishing is collecting copies of the emails, so any further technical hiccups won't be an issue. If necessary, KAF will hand deliver hard copies.

Great job so far. Don't let up!

dsafety
01-06-2011, 07:14 AM
Paul, will KAF be resending the failed letters or should we resubmit?

Bob

PAL
01-06-2011, 07:35 AM
^If in doubt, send again!

Hunters Pa
01-06-2011, 07:53 AM
Send it direct! Here's the link

http://gov.ca.gov/

Click "contact" & send it in.

Jimmyz123
01-06-2011, 08:31 AM
sent again x2

Aaron&Julie
01-06-2011, 02:11 PM
I resent my request to everybody in my email list to send in the letter today, since it is now working. Hopefully, it won't happen again, as my non-fishermen friends may not want to do this multiple times:)
<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Aaron&Julie
01-06-2011, 06:16 PM
I received a failure notice that was the same as last night, after the problem was to have been resolved. What gives? Is this going to happen every time we send big amounts of letters their way?

roby
01-06-2011, 07:39 PM
Done.

PAL
01-06-2011, 08:47 PM
I'll check on it. Anyone else get a bounce message?

dsafety
01-06-2011, 09:12 PM
After two failures, my last message seems to have gone through OK.

Bob

wiredantz
01-06-2011, 09:28 PM
mine went through

TypeSH
01-07-2011, 08:43 AM
Sent, mine went through fine.
Thanks!

PAL
01-07-2011, 03:13 PM
Update: Send you message this way:

Please go the Governor’s webpage at http://www.gov.ca.gov/m_contact.php , type in “Please Do Not Reappoint Richard Rogers to the FGC” in the subject block, complete the webform and submit.

It is always a good idea to follow up with an old fashioned snail mail.

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

For extra emphasis, give this number a call: (916) 445-2841