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Iceman
02-08-2011, 11:26 AM
FEBRUARY 12th 9am-2pm

Mini X $209.60-$269.60 ..................49
Sierra 10 $219.60-$279.60 ..............5
Pro Explorer $287.60-$339.60 ........25
Pro 2 Tandem $319.60-$431.60 ......48
X Factor $339.60-$419.60 ..............20
X-13 $331.60-$407.60 ...................15
Stealth 12 $419.60 .........................5
Stealth 14 $539.60 .........................5

We will also be selling tie downs, soft racks, paddles, seats and hatches.

Sale starts at 9am, get there early!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7110+Jackson+Street+Paramount,+CA+90723-4837&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=7110+Jackson+St,+Paramount,+Los+Angeles,+Cal ifornia+90723&gl=us&ll=33.885148,-118.174653&spn=0.008194,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A

bus kid
02-08-2011, 11:49 AM
More info on the racks, paddles, and seats if possible please. Uncle Sam just paid up.

wiredantz
02-08-2011, 12:06 PM
More info on the racks, paddles, and seats if possible please. Uncle Sam just paid up.




Well i guess its between an X-factor and a Stealth 14.

Yes, more info on paddles, and seats if possible please.

Iceman
02-08-2011, 12:19 PM
Soft Racks are the kind that strap to the roof and tie downs secure kayak, regular $60 sale price $20 for a set. Seats available are the Spiders and the Apex 1, paddles are the Tsunami as well as Black Diamond F/G and carbon paddles, drastic reductions, but no definite pricing yet.

BrokeLoser
02-09-2011, 05:15 AM
Mini X $209.60-$269.60 ..................49
Sierra 10 $219.60-$279.60 ..............5
Pro Explorer $287.60-$339.60 ........25
Pro 2 Tandem $319.60-$431.60 ......48
X Factor $339.60-$419.60 ..............20
X-13 $331.60-$407.60 ...................15
Stealth 12 $419.60 .........................5
Stealth 14 $539.60 .........................5

We will also be selling tie downs, soft racks, paddles, seats and hatches.

Sale starts at 9am, get there early!

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7110+Jackson+Street+Paramount,+CA+90723-4837&oe=utf- (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7110+Jackson+Street+Paramount,+CA+90723-4837&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=7110+Jackson+St,+Paramount,+Los+Angeles,+Cal ifornia+90723&gl=us&ll=33.885148,-118.174653&spn=0.008194,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A)8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=7110+Jackson+St,+Paramount,+Los+Angeles,+Cal ifornia+90723&gl=us&ll=33.885148,-118.174653&spn=0.008194,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=7110+Jackson+Street+Paramount,+CA+90723-4837&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=7110+Jackson+St,+Paramount,+Los+Angeles,+Cal ifornia+90723&gl=us&ll=33.885148,-118.174653&spn=0.008194,0.01929&z=16&iwloc=A)

When does this sale take place?
Will these be used boats for sale?
Demos?
Factory seconds?

Thanks, looking forward to hearing back.

wiseguy
02-09-2011, 05:53 AM
Here is the complete listing on CL!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/spo/2197671414.html

BrokeLoser
02-09-2011, 07:57 AM
Here is the complete listing on CL!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/spo/2197671414.html


Got it...thanks wiseguy

fishsouthcounty
02-09-2011, 10:29 AM
just follow what iceman posted up in this thread. hes gonna know the most accurate info. As has already been stated the craigslist ad mentions extremes which iceman has confirmed there are none. He has also confirmed numbers of each available and more. Dont waste your time with the craigslist ad at this point.

BrokeLoser
02-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Thanks..
Does anyone know what type of a crowd can be expected at one of these?
I'm missing a very important softball clinic for my daughter on the 12th to be there. I'm hoping to pick up 2 X-Factors, says there is 20 available. What are my odds?

Iceman
02-09-2011, 11:01 AM
If you are in line before 9am I would think you would have no problem getting your X Factors. I will try to find out how many of these will be F&D with the hatches and rod holders. If the 2 kayaks you want are not right next to each other you may not get both as you need to stand guard over your selection until we write you up. Bring and extra person to make sure. In the past we have had around 100 people filing in at 9am.

Iceman
02-09-2011, 11:04 AM
factory seconds are not first quality as in there are minor cosmetic defects. Nothing structural and nothing that has had major repair, graphics missing, slight warping, pin hole welded. All kayaks will have a tag stating why they are not 1st quality.

wiredantz
02-09-2011, 11:41 AM
factory seconds are not first quality as in there are minor cosmetic defects. Nothing structural and nothing that has had major repair, graphics missing, slight warping, pin hole welded. All kayaks will have a tag stating why they are not 1st quality.


Andy,

Will this be first come first serve or every man/women for himself/herself.

Like since there are only 5 stealths, will the first few people get to choose before they get run over? Because if thats not the case i am bringing my whole family and you all know mexican families they go on and on, uncles, newphews, nieces, great grandmother(well maybe not her) and don't forget the family dogs., cats., birds.

Iceman
02-09-2011, 12:57 PM
i think we will try to control the flow this time keeping entry single file. Pick your kayak from outside and pick a plan B just in case.

wiredantz
02-09-2011, 01:07 PM
Andy:

This is just a suggestion:

How about you make 10 vouchers for the first few people in line, 5 for the stealths 14s and 5 for the stealths 12s?
On each one your right the color of the yak and whats imperfect about it. I would imagine that people are going to rush to the stealths.

Thats how Best Buy does it when they open the doors on black friday. Before they open the doors the laptops are accounted for, and the vouchers are passed out 10-15mins before they open the door, so there are no disputes over who has first rights.


That being said I am looking for a blue or white x-factor f&d model. I really wanted an eXtreme,but someone mentioned i would be to big for it. So i will go with another x-factor that way i won't be tempted to spend money to make a stealth 14 my primary yak. Unless you have a blue stealth 14. :drool5:

BrokeLoser
02-09-2011, 01:37 PM
i think we will try to control the flow this time keeping entry single file. Pick your kayak from outside and pick a plan B just in case.

Just in case I'm the first one there...haha...will the place to line-up be clearly marked?
I don't want to miss out on the X-factors

wiredantz
02-09-2011, 01:39 PM
Just in case I'm the first one there...haha...will the place to line-up be clearly marked?
I don't want to miss out on the X-factors


i already have my blue lawn chair in line.

BrokeLoser
02-09-2011, 01:40 PM
i already have my blue lawn chair in line.

cool...hold me a couple of those X's

tomb4852
02-10-2011, 12:14 AM
are those xfactors or stealths fully loaded with seats and paddles? Just trying to figure what i need out. It is the sale ive been looking for. I am driving down from san luis obispo.....i just hope i dont go 4 hours and miss out.

fishsouthcounty
02-10-2011, 12:47 AM
sounds like according to iceman the stealths have hatches and flush mounts installed....i dont think any boats will be coming with seats(all sold seperately) and the xfactors will be stripped to rigged just gotta run to one with what you want.

limitedout
02-10-2011, 03:42 AM
Can I order one? and have it shipped

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 09:15 AM
What does STD, REC and F/D mean?

X Factor MSRP STD 799.00 SALE PRICE $339.60
X Factor MSRP REC 899.00 SALE PRICE $379.60
X Factor MSRP F/D 999.00 SALE PRICE 419.60

wiseguy
02-10-2011, 10:13 AM
Standard, Recreational and Fish and Dive package.:) Check out the Malibu Kayaks website for all the info.

http://www.malibukayaks.com/

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 10:19 AM
Standard, Recreational and Fish and Dive package.:) Check out the Malibu Kayaks website for all the info.

http://www.malibukayaks.com/


Oh thanks...but I don't see anywhere on their site where "packages" are discussed? Sorry, I'm stupid.

Lets_Fish
02-10-2011, 11:37 AM
What does STD, REC and F/D mean?

X Factor MSRP STD 799.00 SALE PRICE $339.60
X Factor MSRP REC 899.00 SALE PRICE $379.60
X Factor MSRP F/D 999.00 SALE PRICE 419.60

STD or Standard refers to kayak hull only.

REC or Recreation refers to kayak hull, most likely center hatch and maybe 2 rod holders in back.

F/D or Fish & Dive refers to kayak hull, center & front hatch, 2-4 rod holders in back and 2 in front.

Some of the F/D "may" have a rudder installed, but don't hold your breath on that as this is an add-on that the factory normally does not do. There are places that you can get a rudder from online or even from OEX, so don't sweat not having one.

Just remember that if you want to set up your yak, go for the STD and purchase the add-ons as you go.

BigWaterOmeez
02-10-2011, 11:57 AM
Any chance you'll be selling X-Wings?

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 12:00 PM
STD or Standard refers to kayak hull only.

REC or Recreation refers to kayak hull, most likely center hatch and maybe 2 rod holders in back.

F/D or Fish & Dive refers to kayak hull, center & front hatch, 2-4 rod holders in back and 2 in front.

Some of the F/D "may" have a rudder installed, but don't hold your breath on that as this is an add-on that the factory normally does not do. There are places that you can get a rudder from online or even from OEX, so don't sweat not having one.

Just remember that if you want to set up your yak, go for the STD and purchase the add-ons as you go.

Thanks for the clarification...
I'll probably want to set things up my way and locate things for me so I'm okay with doing the add-ons later

Iceman
02-10-2011, 12:17 PM
some clarification on the difference between standard, rec, and F&D

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3.4
STD msrp $529.00 Sale Price $178.70
REC msrp $ 549.00 sale price $184.70
4 4
STD msrp $619.00 sale price $205.70
REC msrp $639.00 sale price $211.70
Sierra 10
STD msrp $499.00 sale price $219.60
F/D msrp $649.00 sale price $279.60
Mini X
STD msrp $499.00 sale price$209.60
REC msrp $569.00 sale price $237.60 rod holders, center hatch
F/D msrp 649.00 $259.60 rod holders, front hatch, center hatch
Pro Explorer
STD msrp $669.00 sale price $287.60
REC msrp $769.00 sale price $327.60 center hatch, bow hatch
F/D msrp$799.00 sale price $339.60 center hatch, bow hatch,
Pro 2 Tandem
STD msrp $749.00 sale price $319.60
REC msrp $869.00 sale price $367.60 rec hatch, round hatch
F/D msrp $1,029.00 sale price $431.60 rec hatch, 2 round hatch, 6 rod holders
X-Factor
STD msrp $799.00 sale price $339.60
REC msrp $ 899.00 sale price $379.60 bow hatch, center hatch
F/D msrp $999.00 sale price $419.60 bow hatch, center hatch, 4 rod holders
X-13
STD msrp $779.00 sale price $331.60
REC msrp $899.00 sale price $379.60 bow hatch, center hatch
F/D msrp $969.00 sale price $407.60 bow hatch, center hatch, rod holders
S-12
F/D msrp $999.00 sale price $419.60 plumbing kits add $100/free install
S-14
F/D msrp $1,299.00 sale price $539.60 plumbing kits add $100/free install

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 12:19 PM
some clarification on the difference between standard, rec, and F&D


You didn't have to do that for me...I'm the only moron around here...haha

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 12:22 PM
Hey iceman...
What time do people usually start getting there?
I'm putting off something very important to be there and will be real disappointed if I come away empty handed. Sorry for all the questions.
Can I just back-door you some cash and have you set a couple aside for me?
just kidding...haha..okay, I'm serious!

Iceman
02-10-2011, 12:27 PM
Any chance you'll be selling X-Wings?

no, sorry not available at the sale.

wiredantz
02-10-2011, 12:53 PM
Hey iceman...
What time do people usually start getting there?
I'm putting off something very important to be there and will be real disappointed if I come away empty handed. Sorry for all the questions.
Can I just back-door you some cash and have you set a couple aside for me?
just kidding...haha..okay, I'm serious!


I will be in line from friday night, in my tent playing mexican music. Feel free to hand me some back to stand behind the line.

Iceman
02-10-2011, 01:22 PM
We had a couple guys overnight it for the first sale, usually only a handful at 7am......they get thick between 7-9am

BrokeLoser
02-10-2011, 01:36 PM
I will be in line from friday night, in my tent playing mexican music. Feel free to hand me some back to stand behind the line.

I'm headed down tonight, I'll be in the red tent blasting Metallica. Paypal me some cash now and I'll hold you a spot upfront.

wiredantz
02-10-2011, 01:52 PM
We had a couple guys overnight it for the first sale, usually only a handful at 7am......they get thick between 7-9am


i was only kidding... but now i have to think about over night!!! ugh

mtnbykr2
02-10-2011, 02:36 PM
i was only kidding... but now i have to think about over night!!! ugh
LMAO you two are too funny....:rolleyes:

roby
02-10-2011, 05:00 PM
I went to the last sale and got a Mini-X. Some advice...

1) Get there early if you want a yak that has limited numbers. Before 7am for sure...

2) If you plan to get more than one yak it is highly advisable to bring an extra person. You have to stand next to your yak to claim it. You can't say, "Hey, Iceman, I want this Tandem and the Mini-X all the way over there."

3) Have a plan b & c. The last time I went, there was a family that brought 6-8 siblings and claimed that many kayaks. There was also a rental company I believe that rolled in with a U-Haul truck and then loaded several, upon several kayaks. I also witnessed an attractive brunette that "cut" in line and proceeded to do a tug of war with a 14 foot kayak with another lady.

4) Bring some kayak wheels in your car and know how to tie your yak properly to your vehicle. I had to help a dad strap down two Mini-Xs onto his CRV. You can load your yak in the driveway, but it can get crowded.

5) Check the yak over carefully. I know all the yaks are seaworthy, but there were some differences with each set of yaks.

6) Wear your BWE shirt if you have one...

7) Buy your accessories and even your hatches there. The prices are good.

8) Bring a camera to capture any cat fights between attractive females.

9) Be nice...it's not like you are buying Hobies :)

wiredantz
02-10-2011, 05:36 PM
I went to the last sale and got a Mini-X. Some advice...

1) Get there early if you want a yak that has limited numbers. Before 7am for sure...

Hmm... ill be there early check!

2) If you plan to get more than one yak it is highly advisable to bring an extra person. You have to stand next to your yak to claim it. You can't say, "Hey, Iceman, I want this Tandem and the Mini-X all the way over there."

3) Have a plan b & c. The last time I went, there was a family that brought 6-8 siblings and claimed that many kayaks. There was also a rental company I believe that rolled in with a U-Haul truck and then loaded several, upon several kayaks. I also witnessed an attractive brunette that "cut" in line and proceeded to do a tug of war with a 14 foot kayak with another lady.

Man, no one better cut in front of me, I am going to bring some rope and rope off the area to make a line... I hope Andy crew can handle a single file line. So he doesn't let those cutters in first.


4) Bring some kayak wheels in your car and know how to tie your yak properly to your vehicle. I had to help a dad strap down two Mini-Xs onto his CRV. You can load your yak in the driveway, but it can get crowded.


Kayak wheels Check!


5) Check the yak over carefully. I know all the yaks are seaworthy, but there were some differences with each set of yaks.

No warping yaks and no pin hole leaks Check! Only Graphic bad placement Check!

6) Wear your BWE shirt if you have one...


I don't have a BWE shirt Andy told me I couldn't get one until I bought two yaks from him.*cough* cough*

7) Buy your accessories and even your hatches there. The prices are good.

Check!

8) Bring a camera to capture any cat fights between attractive females.

Will be too busy running for my future yak! Check! Maybe ill take a picture of who is in the line to make sure they don't cut.

9) Be nice...it's not like you are buying Hobies :)

If i could afford a Hobie, i would be nice, but since this is what i can afford, its all the poor people rushing into walmart for kayaks. so i am going to have to be aggressive and take my yak from that brunette who cut the line.Check!







A rental company...man i hope there not in front of me. I would cry.

Iceman... If you remember out of the top of your head, did you see any blue or white x-factor fish and dive models?


My worst fear is me running in and getting to the one i want and it says warping or leak and i have to run to the next one and there all claimed. I will be sad...

Andy, will you have life vest at the sale?

Iceman
02-10-2011, 06:40 PM
no life jackets, but you will get a 15% off voucher to use at OEX Sunset Beach, good for 14 days following your purchase.

NY-2-SANO
02-11-2011, 06:48 AM
You mentioned hatches, does that include gatorhatches as well and if so do you know the price or discount? Time for my daughter to start coming out with me. Thanks.

Iceman
02-11-2011, 08:44 AM
Only hatches there will be small rectangular and round. Gator hatches sell for $125. the sale is limited to volume item sales for simplicity sake

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_2968.jpg

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegallery/data/500/IMG_2717.jpg

BrokeLoser
02-11-2011, 08:57 AM
iceman knows marketing...the more photos you post the more psyched I get for the sale...Whoops..am I suppose to admit that?

fishsouthcounty
02-11-2011, 09:33 PM
on my way boys.....see you all in line..good luck to everyone getting what they are after.

wiredantz
02-11-2011, 10:34 PM
WTH... go back to bed... Plus no one in line except me..

tomb4852
02-11-2011, 10:39 PM
The ad said pick up only. I'm not going to make it down after all.....too bad they wont ship :'( Good luck guys. There are gonna be some awesome yaks down there. If someone gets a stealth 14 and decides they dont want it let me know!

fishsouthcounty
02-11-2011, 10:58 PM
Haha you really in line? I drove by and decided to get some fat burger to kill time

BrokeLoser
02-12-2011, 05:30 AM
WOW...just drove by the sale there must be 150 people there now.

BrokeLoser
02-12-2011, 05:57 AM
Guy just came out said no Stealths or X-factors after all....THATS BULLS!@t

wiredantz
02-12-2011, 09:24 AM
I got there at 1am in the morning, and slept in my car until 3am thats when 2 guys showed up and starting forming a line. So i got out my car and set up camp and made a barrier to make a line.



Anyway long story short I am now the proud owner of a new Blue 2010 X-factor. They have made so many improvements over the 2007 model. The hatches include weather stripping and do not completely come off, they are on a hinge Just a way better model all around. Love it!!!

best part of all is that my x-factor was 375 for the fish and dive model, when we got there they said they gave the wrong prices on the internet. the stealth 14 were only 500.00.

Really good deals, I am glad i went!!!! now i gonna catch some zzzs




They had about 6 stealth 14s and 5 Stealth 12.

toadstoadsonly
02-12-2011, 10:49 AM
Nice... I showed at 6:30 and was about 15th in line now I am a happy owner of a Stealth 14 and a Malibu Tandem @ awesome deal.

fishsouthcounty
02-12-2011, 11:29 AM
what a night.....i too am officially the owner of a kayak.

Got a Stealth 12 in the sand color. Currently the first drop off at OEX for the bait pump install. Hopefully be paddling around the DP harbor trying to figure this whole thing out come tuesday....nice talkin with all of you guys out there at 4 this morning. haha

HELLSTER INC.
02-12-2011, 11:50 AM
So glad i did not pass this up! Got there about 4am with the intention of buying an x-factor and ended up with the X and a stealth-14.Cool group of guys see ya on the water...

BrokeLoser
02-12-2011, 02:01 PM
Hey guys...Thanks for all the tips while standing there in line. You guys rock!

Iceman
02-12-2011, 03:33 PM
Got a Stealth 12 in the sand color. Currently the first drop off at OEX for the bait pump install. Hopefully be paddling around the DP harbor trying to figure this whole thing out come tuesday....nice talkin with all of you guys out there at 4 this morning. haha

5200 is already curing :D

bus kid
02-12-2011, 03:39 PM
5200 is already curing :D


shouldn't you be working, with all the free installs coming in today, not playing on the internet. :D

I will be out in HH tomorrow am with my daughter look forward to seeing all the newbs out there, just stay off my fish. :biggrinjester:

tomah
02-12-2011, 06:21 PM
Today was a great day. Got there just after 6am, was #10 in line and got my red stealth 12! Ended up going back because my gf wanted a small kayak. Got her a mini-x. Thanks for all the good laughs this morning. Definately made the 3 hour wait pass by faster.

Going to fish los alamitos bay tomorrow

fishsouthcounty
02-12-2011, 06:56 PM
5200 is already curing :D


beautiful....cant wait to get it in the water....what time are you guys open till tomorrow? was gonna wait till monday but might just have to do it after my 6-230 shift tomorrow.

wiredantz
02-12-2011, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAz6xzVkuw8


Here is a short video of the yaks this morning and the line before we ran over Andy to get to our kayaks.



The guy in the circle is Fishsouthcounty and the person responsible for making us arrive at 1 am because he went to fatburger and said he drove by.

And the guy in the square is (BrokeLoser (http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/member.php?u=4095)). Brokeloser was trying to pay his way up to the front of the line, but we just sent back to where he was like 8th in line. LOL



http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/darkmatrix84/Screenshot2011-02-12at82626PM.png



We didn't see the Brunette who gave Andy a hard time last time. Andy was having a panic attack just thinking about her.

yakcrazy
02-12-2011, 07:52 PM
I was there too. The wait turned out to be a good time.
I ended up with an X-Factor blem that was marked thin in a few different places. I'm pretty sure it means the wall thickness wasn't thick enough to make it to retail. Should I be concerned about this or is it really nothing to worry about?

YakMedic
02-12-2011, 07:53 PM
Hey fellas, I was #2 in line in front of wiredantz today. I showed up with a buddy and I wasn't even gonna get another kayak since I have no problems with my wilderness systems Ride. But those prices were so good I brought back a xfactor plus my buddy got his stealth 12.

Awesome day, I cant believe I was in line at 3am. See you on the water.

wiredantz
02-12-2011, 08:15 PM
Hey fellas, I was #2 in line in front of wiredantz today. I showed up with a buddy and I wasn't even gonna get another kayak since I have no problems with my wilderness systems Ride. But those prices were so good I brought back a xfactor plus my buddy got his stealth 12.

Awesome day, I cant believe I was in line at 3am. See you on the water.


Hopefully your wife was not too upset. I bet you she got over it already.

fishsouthcounty
02-12-2011, 08:34 PM
Hey fellas, I was #2 in line in front of wiredantz today. I showed up with a buddy and I wasn't even gonna get another kayak since I have no problems with my wilderness systems Ride. But those prices were so good I brought back a xfactor plus my buddy got his stealth 12.

Awesome day, I cant believe I was in line at 3am. See you on the water.


Your welcome man...glad i could inspire you to be at the front of the line. haha. good time this morning shootin the shit and passin the time even though i couldnt feel my toes till about 1030.


and as to yakcrazy...im not expert as this is my first yak. i would say just be very careful with your landings...find places with very little or no swell as those thin spots could potentially fracture if you come in to quick and hit hard.

JPSURF
02-12-2011, 08:48 PM
I was there too. The wait turned out to be a good time.
I ended up with an X-Factor blem that was marked thin in a few different places. I'm pretty sure it means the wall thickness wasn't thick enough to make it to retail. Should I be concerned about this or is it really nothing to worry about?


Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

JP

wiredantz
02-12-2011, 08:54 PM
Your welcome man...glad i could inspire you to be at the front of the line. haha. good time this morning shootin the shit and passin the time even though i couldnt feel my toes till about 1030.


and as to yakcrazy...im not expert as this is my first yak. i would say just be very careful with your landings...find places with very little or no swell as those thin spots could potentially fracture if you come in to quick and hit hard.

You can always have Andy look at it, he can make it stronger

wiredantz
02-12-2011, 08:55 PM
Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

JP

Yes, Andy did that for me too on. Under the seat Support hole. He reinforced it no leaks and peace of mind ever since.

YakMedic
02-12-2011, 09:16 PM
Hopefully your wife was not too upset. I bet you she got over it already.

No she's pretty much over it and wants to take both yaks out tomorrow for a freshwater paddle.

yakcrazy
02-13-2011, 06:42 AM
Yes i have some thin spots on my X-Factor. Had it hanging in the Garage and the scupper cracked. But Andy to the rescue plastic welded it and installed some support on the inside.

JP


I plan to use it almost exclusively in the ocean.
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
I hope I am just overthinking this but damn if I have to put a bunch of money into it suddenly the great deal could turn into a hassle and a not so great deal if you know what I mean. I probably wouldn't care at all if I wasn't 255lbs.

Jimmyz123
02-13-2011, 07:25 AM
Glad to see there are new Yakers out there that are new at the sport like me. Looking forward to seeing you all out on the water sometime soon. If you have never Kayaked before I recommend going onto YouTube and watch all the Kayaking surf launching, rigging, paddling, and anything thing else Kayak related. They will help build you knowledge, and confidence. Jim Sammons has a Great Surf Landing video with tons of information that could save you from having a "Yard Sale" on the landing. Speaking for myself, after watching these videos I have learned so much and have a ton of confidence.

Iceman
02-13-2011, 02:10 PM
Sorry I did not respond sooner than this. The kayaks sold yesterday still had to meet quality control standards. All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect. Don't let uneven plastic worry you, it had to meet specs to qualify as purely cosmetic. I use similar blems in my rental fleet and have never seen any issues resulting in uneven plastic. The sale was "as is" with 90 day warranty, with no returns. Reason being that if you had not bought the kayak someone else would have. Don't second guess your derision. We will make sure you are a happy customer. OEX Stands by these kayaks.

Cash, check and credit cards accepted
There will be no sales prior to 9AM on Saturday February 12th! Arrive early for the best selection
9am-2pm at Malibu Kayaks Factory parking lot
7110 Jackson Street Paramount, CA 90723-4837
Great deals on seats, paddles and accessories as well!
Call OEX Sunset Beach for details
562-592-0800
TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF PARKING LOT SALE
All sales of kayaks are final and sold “AS IS”.
All kayaks will come with a 90 day limited repair warranty against manufacturer defect, and must be claimed through OEX.
Prices are valid for today February 12th, 2011 only. No “rain checks” will be given. All sales are on a first come first serve basis.
All sales are done through OEX and all customer service issues and warranties must be directed to OEX

yakcrazy
02-13-2011, 02:54 PM
Sorry I did not respond sooner than this. The kayaks sold yesterday still had to meet quality control standards. All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect. Don't let uneven plastic worry you, it had to meet specs to qualify as purely cosmetic. I use similar blems in my rental fleet and have never seen any issues resulting in uneven plastic. The sale was "as is" with 90 day warranty, with no returns. Reason being that if you had not bought the kayak someone else would have. Don't second guess your derision. We will make sure you are a happy customer. OEX Stands by these kayaks.

Hey Andy. Thanks for all the info.
I have heard nothing but good things about you and OEX. I am also 100% aware of the return policy on the blem yaks. I'm not requesting a refund or exchange or anything like that. I'm more concerned about whether or not it's safe and whether or not I should attack the problem now or later or whether it is even a problem or potential problem that's all.
"All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect."
Does this mean I can still load it down completely and bash it through the surf and all? What do you think Andy? Potential concerns?
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
The other reasons for blems being determined as blems are far less complicated than this one is. Obviously you wouldn't care to fix a scratch now or put a graphic on that maybe wasn't there. But my issue is a little more trivial.

Thanks Andy!

SFSPEARO
02-13-2011, 03:13 PM
Hi, are there any Mini X's left over from the sale?

It sounds like the sale was a big success!

Congrats to all who got the great deals!

GregAndrew
02-13-2011, 05:26 PM
Hey Andy. Thanks for all the info.
I have heard nothing but good things about you and OEX. I am also 100% aware of the return policy on the blem yaks. I'm not requesting a refund or exchange or anything like that. I'm more concerned about whether or not it's safe and whether or not I should attack the problem now or later or whether it is even a problem or potential problem that's all.
"All of the kayaks sold were seaworthy they just were not perfect."
Does this mean I can still load it down completely and bash it through the surf and all? What do you think Andy? Potential concerns?
Is it something I should fix now?
Is the structural integrity compromised?
Do you think it's unsafe?
Will it sit lower and take on more water?
Do I just wait until I have a problem like a crack or something and then fix it?
If I do fix it how much money do you think I am looking at spending?
The other reasons for blems being determined as blems are far less complicated than this one is. Obviously you wouldn't care to fix a scratch now or put a graphic on that maybe wasn't there. But my issue is a little more trivial.

Thanks Andy!
If Andy says it is seaworthy you can bet that you can use it just like any other yak. Unless you can see through the thin areas, you should have no problems. Just don't treat it like the rental guys at La Jolla and remember to visually inspect it on a regular basis as anybody should do.

wiredantz
02-13-2011, 06:15 PM
If Andy says it is seaworthy you can bet that you can use it just like any other yak. Unless you can see through the thin areas, you should have no problems. Just don't treat it like the rental guys at La Jolla and remember to visually inspect it on a regular basis as anybody should do.

Yes. if your worried about a specific spot let Andy take a look at it. You can always reinforce it with Wood, plastic epoxy or Steel maybe not the latter.

JOSER85
02-14-2011, 07:40 AM
Nice... I showed at 6:30 and was about 15th in line now I am a happy owner of a Stealth 14 and a Malibu Tandem @ awesome deal.

What's up man!
How was your ride home?
Just in case you forgot I was right behind you. Helped you load your yaks.

wiredantz
02-14-2011, 08:14 AM
The price of getting a 1000 dollar kayak for $ 375.00 is getting sick.