Using 65lb braid and saltwater I prefer the all metal guides.

Bought two online last year. Seagate 50H for $97 from an Amazon Lightning deal and a new Seagate 35 for $99 on eBay.

What Ugly Stiks are you fishing? They are my second most dependable rods, falling only to the Calstars I wrap myself. I have had a 7' tiger lite for 3 years and beat the shit out of it. Caught yellows up to 32# paired with an Avet SX.

If you are wearing a groove into the guide, you are either using way too much drag or got a defect Imo. I haven't had problems fishing up to 15# drag with 50# braid.

These are the ones I bought.
Shakespeare BWCJL 2200 63 Ugly Stik Tiger Lite Jigging Rod - Casting


Never again. Used in a normal fishing setting. Other than defective, I thought they we're a bit bulky, cumbersome and too much action on the tip as another poster pointed out. Maybe these we're defective, but I won't risk finding out again. Plenty of other fine choices for rods. I use Avet's also.

Can you or someone else comment how the generations work on the Seagate if I'm cruising Ebay or looking at used reels?

I know on the Sealines, SHA is the current generation and the previous generation was SHV with a 6.1:1 ratio. The HV was the previous generation with a 4.9:1 ratio

I don't know why manufacturers can't just label generations sequentially with a letter or number to make it easy

I bought one too, haven't used it but once and only got a few rockfish on it. Maybe it'll be only used for that after hearing your experience. But bulky??? Are you comparing it to your trout gear? ? It's mad light, as for the reason I got it. Here it is next to a 15lbs rated bass rod (shimano). Attachment 15460Attachment 15461Attachment 15462

Bulky was the wrong term to use. More like uneven stiffness. The bottom 3/4 or the rod is overly stiff, while the tip is very playable.
Whereas my Shimano's have much better balance/play throughout the rod.