Originally Posted by Flyak13 (Post 253225)

So there was a time a few years ago that I regarded kayak fisherman as a bad ass breed of fisherman, you are your own captain, surf launch and landing, catching big fish in a tiny boat half the time all by yourself, what the heck happened ? A bunch of whiny little girls , complaining about having to pick up trash, , complaining about private boaters, complaining about the fish not biting , complaining about turning in wsb heads when you've caught ONE your entire life, shut the fuck up , go fuxking fishing and stop being a bunch of pussies on the Internet, And this goes Out to that jackass too that sits on his computer staring at the launch cam then tries to blast about a wide open bite because some guys took pics with some fish, GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF PANZIES and go fishing !

Originally Posted by Flyak13 (Post 253225)

So there was a time a few years ago that I regarded kayak fisherman as a bad ass breed of fisherman, you are your own captain, surf launch and landing, catching big fish in a tiny boat half the time all by yourself, what the heck happened ? A bunch of whiny little girls , complaining about having to pick up trash, , complaining about private boaters, complaining about the fish not biting , complaining about turning in wsb heads when you've caught ONE your entire life, shut the fuck up , go fuxking fishing and stop being a bunch of pussies on the Internet, And this goes Out to that jackass too that sits on his computer staring at the launch cam then tries to blast about a wide open bite because some guys took pics with some fish, GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF PANZIES and go fishing !

Originally Posted by maquinapescado (Post 253199)

So I blasted this out with a little anger and closed my computer second to my wife telling me; I let people bother me too much, invest too much time into this stupid site, never deliver a message well when aggravated, people never receive a message that comes from such a poor response, and then proceeded to point out seventy or more chinks in my armor. Being stubborn, I decided to post it anyway.

In response to cbad mike, my intention is not directed at you or "every member" on BWE, but I hardly think any kayak fisherman would have received my message if I posted this in my knitting club.

If people want to take this as an attack and I knew people on HERE would, I was fully ready to accept responsibility for my crass response to the trash.

MOMO, I don't have a high horse, I have an intolerance for people who litter. Five BWE members that I know of walked by it all and there were some 20+ kayaks on the water who I am sure used the launch. It was impossible to not have to step over it. The trash could have been picked up. I am perfectly okay with being the one that did and don't expect to hear about every piece of trash that gets picked up nor will I complain about it every time. I am also not trying to be a self proclaimed martyr about it.

I get it, it might not have been you or anyone who responded to this.

I can guarantee that at least a couple articles of that trash were left by someone who surveys (power boater or kayak) this sight for intel or is a member. As mentioned above, I can also guarantee that some members walked past it.

My less than choice words and approach that comprised my message will hopefully be heard but most importantly remembered, either through me being the butt of the situation or because others are as passionate about their environment and littering as I am and just needed a reminder to be an advocate.

I am part of the kayak-fisherman boom and with any growing population within an activity/sport, new people come along and need to be aware of things like this. Sometimes, existing members of the community just need a kick in the rear. I deal with it with the explosion of rock climbing and people trashing Joshua Tree, Yosemite and other climbing spots due to a lack of education on how sensitive the environment really is. If someone wants to post a nice thread about it, go for it. Considering the shit I have received for benign and polite posts or questions on this site, I am not willing to be that person. I am nice, compassionate and caring to people who are often hostile in my occupation on a daily basis. In my opinion, they have the right to be second to mental illness, fear of impending death and other various disease processes. Being a crabby kayak fisherman, website/keyboard bully or any other variation of being impolite on here does not merit a polite public service announcement from me.

If you received this message in an ill way, I am sincerely sorry to those who are polite, respectful and informative on here.