its a good thing i marked that spot on my GPS. off to fish i go.


A snag would not vibrate my rod as it swam down or scrape up my dead sardine and leaving it bloody. It was definetly something.

I have been snagged on kelp in malibu and in Cabrillo and in corona del mar, and the force i felt as it was trying to shake off the hook felt nothing like being snagged in kelp. I have had snag stop me from going any further, but never exert so much force to pull line out of my reel and vibrate my rod, especially as it kept trying to escape.

I wasn't going to say that but yeah the story described does sound like he hung up on the structure and then the current and swell made it feel like he had two big fish. When he loosened the drag it then came loose rather then taking a bunch of line because it was just hung up from the start.

There is no kelp there but Venice reef is heavily fished by the sportboats and is covered with broken off line. That's why I fish the sand around it rather then the reef itself. Often if you drift the reef you hook up deadlines left by inexperienced anglers from the sportboats and since it gives it feels like a fish but it's not. Sometimes you'll hook a fish it then tangles in heavy deadline and it feels bigger then it is because you can't pull it up. I mean with all due respect new guys to the sport always have a lot to learn, and some of things will be learned the hard way.

Of course the irony is if he had in fact landed two huge seabass and posted the info he did it would of been a huge mistake because the area would of immediately been swarmed with hundreds of boats, as lots of people watch this forum, word would of gotten out and everything that floats would of come out of the MDR harbor to fish them.

This is why no-one with experience posts Santa Monica Bay Seabass bites, or even Halibut bites with locations online anymore.

Live and learn...


Jim

You did not originally say you got the bait back.

Did it look like it was stuck with a bunch of pencil points, scraped with a rake, or was it partially skinned or looked like it was roughed up with coarse sand paper?

If scraped or stuck how wide was the spaces between cuts or holes?

Each fish type leaves unique marks a bite signature, when you get experienced enough that alone will be able to tell you what you had on your line.

Next time take a picture of the bait and we'll be able tell you exactly what you had on.

Jim

Well if that the case, it was just a few rocks that i got stuck on...:D

don't pay attention to this post.....it was all a lie....:leaving:.......:reel:

Now your learning... :D

Still want to hear about those bite marks.... Check your Private messages, maybe I can give you some more info.

Jim

way to chip down the cheer.........

Wiredantz, I'm confident you will break the curse, keep at it, time on the water and the fish will come. In the mean time.............................................. .................................................. ....

Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades :D:biggrinjester:

Tend to agree with the snag theory, especially on a double like that. I've seen way too many fishermen, and some not inexperienced, battle real estate, before the hook broke free, the line broke, or realization sets in. Swell, drift and wind and can fool anyone, at least for a while.
But, really, the only opinion that counts is yours, and you are the only one that was on the other end of those lines.
Good luck breaking the curse. All good things come to those who wait.
Aaron

No doubt!!!

Keep fishing Wiredantz and you will catch some quality fish.

There are a lot of guys here that will help you out, you will find your fish, it's just a matter of time on the water.

Jim

now that's better...group hug....:biggrinjester: MDR saturday anybody???....

There are no fish in Marina Del Rey, but i will be there at 6:30am Saturday just to go whale watching :D, and maybe pass the time :reeling:.

:leaving:

If anyone wants to go whale watching, ill bring my radio with me.


:reeling:


:yt:

Good luck out there wiredantz - you'll get em' ... either that or buy a new kayak from Andy :)

I dont like to go alone so MDR here i come saturday 6:30...
what the address ANYBODY???

Driving directions to Admiralty Way, Marina del Rey, CA


I will be parking at Mothers Beach, in Marina Del Rey, Ca

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got it c u there

do I have everything?...:rolleyes:...kayak, rods, paddle, GAME CLIP...lol
see you all there...we should be outta this wind by then and maybe a few degrees warmer...b

Not too many people know this.......shhhh

That area has a secret sub testing facility. Many a fishermen have been involved in snagging "things" around here. Be careful boys and don't scream "hook up!" till you see a fish under your kayak!
:):):)