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Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 06:11 AM

No not really. It does help but as long as the people leading the way keep a steady course all you have to do is follow. You're pretty much dependent on the line they make

cabojohn 03-03-2014 08:40 AM

This paddle is ONLY for those who have experience and the right tools for the job!!
You must be in top physical condition to even consider this type of paddle.

**WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE ANYONE.

*If you are asking if you / your kayak can make the paddle, what gear you need, how long will the paddle take etc...THIS trip IS NOT for YOU.


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*We will host some other shorter / local one way Paddle~N~Fish this spring/ summer with possible bail out points along the way. Stay tuned.

Hunters Pa 03-03-2014 08:48 AM

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Really like the ceiling fan blade paddle

87yota4runner 03-03-2014 09:13 AM

The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

Squid Vicious 03-03-2014 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 87yota4runner (Post 184420)
The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

.....I think you will do good trolling to catalina....your a good troller...now see if he bites :jig:

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 87yota4runner (Post 184420)
The right to refuse anyone? So say you deemed me unfit for the trip, but I showed at the same time as you guys to do my own paddle to Catalina camping trip, would you just refuse to speak to me the whole trip? Haha

Not only that, but questions like gear and time of travel aren't reasons to tell someone they can't go. I'm a college athlete and in better shape than most and those are questions I also asked. Little harsh to me but I agree that someone unprepared will only ruin it for others. But that can't be determind now, more like the month of the trip. Either way I'm ready :D

87yota4runner 03-03-2014 09:21 AM

Haha I'm the best. Done it sooooo many times ;) and rather than catching anything, I lost gear lol
So how do you guys set up the smaller one way trips? As in how do you get back to your car?

alanw 03-03-2014 06:28 PM

I'm in no shape to make this paddle, but for the rest of you this site says there's Yellowtail, Yellowfin Tuna, Dorado, Marlin, and Rockfish along the way at the "Avalon Bank" and the "14 Mile Bank"

87yota4runner 03-03-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 184490)
I'm in no shape to make this paddle, but for the rest of you this site says there's Yellowtail, Yellowfin Tuna, Dorado, Marlin, and Rockfish along the way at the "Avalon Bank" and the "14 Mile Bank"


That is an awesome site, thank you for the link.


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Big T 03-03-2014 07:06 PM

While I agree with Cabojohn about one thing, as you "probably" aren't mentally or physically (Endurance paddling-wise) if you're asking said questions, I'm assuming if you want to show up and paddle with everyone, you will be acknowledged, but probably told that you're making a dumb and boneheaded decision by someone... Guaranteed.

I've crossed the channel many times (but never on a yak) on small craft and even with the aid of a motor and lack of physical effort on my part, the catalina channel has given me my share of challenges. Some of which would have eaten my lunch on an ill prepared kayak trip. Some of which were NOWHERE in the weather/noaa forecast.

My .02

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 07:28 PM

I don't think anyone expects to just show up and paddle out there. But questions need to be asked by some people, better than not asking and just showing up thinking its gonna be a piece of cake. Can people become a liability if they aren't in shape? Yes, no one wants a trip to fall apart because someone couldn't do it.

But if my calendar is right, which it is, its march 3rd and this trip isn't projected to go until atleast June, which is atleast 3 months away. Decisions of who doesn't get to go (even though no one has that power, even cabojohn) can't really be assessed until atleast the month of the trip, or atleast seeing the person on the water.

MY $0.02

Big T 03-03-2014 07:50 PM

A qualification run two weeks out? Dana Point to somewhere in Newport harbor? Not the same thing and about 7 miles shorter, but if you start later in the morning, the wind can offer more of a challenge. Just a thought.

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 07:58 PM

I would if I lived remotely close but I'm in chula vista. You can do something up there for those in that area. I can try and organize one for down here that goes from mission bay to sd bay? Anyone in the sd area wanting to do this trip and wants to prep for it pm me and we can organize some trips.

Big T 03-03-2014 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 184510)
I would if I lived remotely close but I'm in chula vista. You can do something up there for those in that area. I can try and organize one for down here that goes from mission bay to sd bay? Anyone in the sd area wanting to do this trip and wants to prep for it pm me and we can organize some trips.

Nah!! Just paddle here from SD... then join em for the rest! Hardcore! ;)

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Big T (Post 184513)
Nah!! Just paddle here from SD... then join em for the rest! Hardcore! ;)

I'm not a badass like you hahahahaha I saw your hooping post and people hating on you

Big T 03-03-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 184516)
I'm not a badass like you hahahahaha I saw your hooping post and people hating on you

Apparently it's a curse now. :rolleyes:

I seriously WISH I could do this trip... would be such a neat bucket list sort of thing! I know I'm a strong paddler for the most part, but I've never paddled for THAT long... I could only imagine the cramps I'd get.

This sort of thing does give me some possible incentive to go out and do some extended paddling to see if I'm even close. I was chasing whales in Dana Point a couple of weeks ago and cramped up after being out there for a few hours straight paddling non stop... but maybe my arms and back recovered stronger so i could do it just 30 mins longer this week.... hmmmmmm The possibilities.

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 08:23 PM

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You could always rent a hobie from oex sunset beach and make the trip that much easier with a mirage drive. I just got a PA 14 and will be making the voyage with that. I had planned on doing it with my wilderness systems ride 120 but sold it and got this. Ready to rock! Mine is caguama, just waiting on my elite-4 hdi to come in now

alanw 03-03-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 184522)
You could always rent a hobie from oex sunset beach and make the trip that much easier with a mirage drive. I just got a PA 14 and will be making the voyage with that. I had planned on doing it with my wilderness systems ride 120 but sold it and got this. Ready to rock! Mine is caguama, just waiting on my elite-4 hdi to come in now

Dude that might be a tough peddle on a wide barge like the PA. Go with the Adventure Island :p

Fishwhisperer619 03-03-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by alanw (Post 184526)
Dude that might be a tough peddle on a wide barge like the PA. Go with the Adventure Island :p

Believe me I would love to take one of those things out there, but ill be fine in the PA. This is my pride and joy and will take me everywhere. Plus I figure I might as well do it while I'm younger haha. The PA isn't that slow honestly. It still beats the hell out of paddling and I was prepared to do that before I got this.

Bert Vega 03-04-2014 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 184533)
Believe me I would love to take one of those things out there, but ill be fine in the PA. This is my pride and joy and will take me everywhere. Plus I figure I might as well do it while I'm younger haha. The PA isn't that slow honestly. It still beats the hell out of paddling and I was prepared to do that before I got this.

you can also put a sail on it and cruise it on over. That is if the SS group that is putting it on will let you go. :the_finger:

Phatford 03-04-2014 05:27 AM

I vote that if you want to be approved for the trip you have to take a trip with Josh (darkhorse) and he can sign you off if you keep up with him all day! ha ha WE PUT IN SOME MILES!!!
I haven't been that sore in years!

Fishwhisperer619 03-04-2014 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bert Vega (Post 184547)
you can also put a sail on it and cruise it on over. That is if the SS group that is putting it on will let you go. :the_finger:

Yea I've seen a few guys sailing their PA's before but that's money I don't think will be put to good use for me at least might use it twice and then never see it again haha.
Well apparently if you aren't already part of the pre determined select group to do this trip then there is a lot of proving that you need to do. I feel bad for people who want to get into kayak fishing and visited this thread or current members that got excited about this trip and then realized how discouraging it became because nazis run it. What happened to the friendly message this thread started out with?

Zed 03-04-2014 09:15 AM

^Boo hoo. Maybe you could set up a long paddle with people you know are fit enough. Let me ask you these, seriously. Have you capsized in deep water, and righted your PA alone? How much open water experience do you have? Can you surf launch and land that thing? There will be one of each. What's in your safety gear?

IMO this does NOT inspire confidence:
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For me I have otay lake in my backyard so I just paddle around the lake for a few hours. Plus when I'm with a group, I won't be the one slowing the pace down so I'm in the clear haha
In Cabo's defense, there was a time when putting up a post like this, one would know who the respondents are. Personally. Now there are many more kayak fishers in many more craft. He doesn't know you, but you seem gung ho. Ordinarily that would be dangerous. Too gung ho may be putting what's in your head before reality. He doesn't know if that's you.

All Cabo's saying is that this is a serious trip, through the shipping lanes, with sometimes unpredictable weather off Fermin. It's not a trip where after 8 hours you can just hit the beach for a rest --like other through paddles. You may still have 4 more hours bucking wind and current. His post was meant to be a stern reminder of these things, not that it is some exclusive trip. You're missing the point. If it was that exclusive it wouldn't be out on the forums, and you would just be reading a TR.

Fishwhisperer619 03-04-2014 09:55 AM

Gung ho? That's funny. As far as my comment about paddling around otay, endurance. Finyak as well as a few others know that I can handle myself in open ocean. No need for concern

rossman 03-04-2014 10:46 AM

You folks are acting as if the day that Cabo and his posse choose to go to Catalina would be the only day possible to do that. If you want to go, plan it , do it, give us a report. This whole dick measuring thing it's just a waste of energy.

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makobob 03-04-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rossman (Post 184599)
You folks are acting as if the day that Cabo and his posse choose to go to Catalina would be the only day possible to do that. If you want to go, plan it , do it, give us a report. This whole dick measuring thing it's just a waste of energy.

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2X well said Ross!

Fishwhisperer619 03-04-2014 11:02 AM

I was just hoping to have a fun trip with some fellow kayakers to a place I've never been before. The minute someone else decided to plan a trip then there is an alternative option. Otherwise this is what I had wanted to do. HAD wanted to do

WSA-Bob 03-04-2014 11:11 AM

Travel time optimistic.
 
I do a bit of river paddling, and your paddle to Catalina is of interest, but with the aid of the river at about 2 miles an hour the 25 miles we do on the first day, generally takes about 5 hours - my average bay and Ocean is about 3.7 Miles per hour average.

Also do not forget to calculate your currents and the wind factor, on 48 mile paddle on the river that should have taken me 10 hours took 14 hours of hard paddling because of the head winds.

But the above worked out, I am interested in more details - Cost and how are we getting back, the Date and hour of launching.

bus kid 03-04-2014 11:16 AM

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THIS paddle will be a one way paddle from Long Beach to Two Harbors with one overnight camping on the island.
More information & details will follow:

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Originally Posted by WSA-Bob (Post 184604)
I am interested in more details - Cost and how are we getting back, the Date and hour of launching.

I was wondering when someone was going to notice the "one way paddle" part
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lowprofile 03-05-2014 04:24 AM

Idk, with the responses written to those interested I'd find another group just so I didn't have to deal with the egos.

I've flipped my PA several dozen times. Some in 30ft+ water with 5-6ft swells but most while landing after running baits with it. I did a solo rescue to another kayaker that flipped his revo in a 5ft offshore swell, righted it, got him on and hoped back in my PA. I can say with all confidence, it's not hard at all.

I personally believe the Hobie Pro Angler is one of the best open water yaks out there. Stability, capacity and speed are all sufficient for a safe voyage across the channel. The only reason I ever flipped mine more than 100yards off the beach is because of my own stupidity and I knew the risks running baits into a tropical storm.

It looked like this for miles out.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psf693498e.jpg

Squid Vicious 03-05-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 184876)
Idk, with the responses written to those interested I'd find another group just so I didn't have to deal with the egos.

I've flipped my PA several dozen times. Some in 30ft+ water with 5-6ft swells but most while landing after running baits with it. I did a solo rescue to another kayaker that flipped his revo in a 5ft offshore swell, righted it, got him on and hoped back in my PA. I can say with all confidence, it's not hard at all.

I personally believe the Hobie Pro Angler is one of the best open water yaks out there. Stability, capacity and speed are all sufficient for a safe voyage across the channel. The only reason I ever flipped mine more than 100yards off the beach is because of my own stupidity and I knew the risks running baits into a tropical storm.

It looked like this for miles out.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psf693498e.jpg

....damn...that looks like a beach break...only no beach :eek::eek:

sandydiego 03-05-2014 08:01 AM

The best way to see if you are up to the crossing is to load all you fishing gear, beer, food, water, camp gear and see how much of a difference it's going to be paddling with the whole load. Weigh everything - look at the total and add your weight. It all adds up fast. What's the weight limit of your craft? Now go down to the beach, launch and fish all day. You will know your limits and your kayak limits fast.

Good luck to all. Maybe I will make a run next trip.

Cheers

Steve

makobob 03-05-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fishwhisperer619 (Post 184602)
I was just hoping to have a fun trip with some fellow kayakers to a place I've never been before. The minute someone else decided to plan a trip then there is an alternative option. Otherwise this is what I had wanted to do. HAD wanted to do

See CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!
We can dp this trip BOTH ways, hard or easy. For you guys wanting an easier way check out CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!

svendawg 03-06-2014 11:40 AM

Interesting article
 
Here is an interesting read about crossing from cabrillo Beach to Catalina on a kayak.
http://www.topkayaker.net/Articles/D.../Catalina.html

Fishwhisperer619 03-06-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 184944)
See CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!
We can dp this trip BOTH ways, hard or easy. For you guys wanting an easier way check out CATALINA CROSSING TOO!!!

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