Meh. It's just fishing. Regrets keep you coming back --wrong lure, wrong heading, wrong line class :doh:.

My largest yak reel (inshore/offshore) is a tld20 w/300 of 40 (maybe the BajaSpecial is stronger, but I don't always bring that). The lever is useful. Usu that is a cd14 or cd18 troller or maybe a dropper, but it's with me. I'd like to see a tld explode in my hands. (Take that Murphy!)

I've seen the stickboats outta Dana working out in that area off the point for sure. Rather fool a yft for my time spent, though.

Keep a Mirage Drive repair kit and tools aboard just incase something backs out or breaks.

There's one in the 08 catalogue.

Do Kayaks qualify for Vessel Assist policies ?

I hear ya Troy...
 

As I tend to giggle at the "over-prepared", if there is such a thing. I've never had a TLD explode, but I've heard of it happening (graphite frame). Then I see guys like Blue Water Jon, who have caught a number of Marlin from a kayak, and prefer the light weight of the TLD's. He has also brought up the argument of never needing to put more than 18 lbs of drag, while on a fish from a kayak. Although, I think he is now fishing with a Torsa, maybe lesson learned, who knows? :rolleyes:.

Billy: As far as Vessel Assist, I thought about that. The idea of simply calling them twice a week to tell them something broke (rudder cable, pin, something), and I need a 40 mile ride in, would easily be worth the price of admission :doh:lol. Although, I think your vessel needs to be registered, and the plastic fleet won't qualify.

Some options:

HelmetCamera.com
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Body Boarding

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Rollercoaster

VioPOV
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BASE Jumping
MTB Downhill

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Josh, I've been reading with amusement your adventures on the high seas. I can only imagine what PB's out 10-20 miles must be thinking when they come across you in a little plastic boat looking for fish to catch. You are definitely one of the pioneers in extending this sport into the offshore realm. I don't want to read of local kayak fisherman Josh Pruitt lost at sea, so be smart and be safe and best of luck to you. :you_rock:

Don't worry Gary.....
 

I appreciate your' concern, but what the Pruitt family lacks in intelligence, we make up for in mental strength. My grandfather was in the Navy during WW2, and was lost at sea for six days. Wearing a PFD, but no life raft, food, or water. Somehow he was found, and survived to tell the tale' (true story). I didn't realize the signifigance of this until I was much older, having spent my share of time at sea.

The moral of the story is : If it's in the paper on monday "kayaker lost at sea", wait till the paper comes out on friday "man found swimming with a YFT on a gameclip". ;)

I'm sure if you were to go missing there would be plenty of us maniacs that would come looking for you.

FisH On Dude :paddleersmilie:

And of course we'd have to slide up with a bait out once we found you bobbing w/ the other flotsam. You gotta be holding, by that time.

^^^^ Zed you are killing me! LOL


Great job pushing the limits Josh. At least you've saved yourself from the
regret of not trying. :)

These fish are like a moving needle in a haystack. You're an unfettered
optimist with enviable spirit.

Obviously, timely info on where the fish are is a start. Perhaps a call to
976-BITE (think Sponsorship) to get you a phone call at the very
moment something happens nearby would help immensely.

I'd imagine that would be good publicity if they could get a kayaker on one
of those local YFT. And, hopefully this opportunity will last into September ....




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BS
 

I have heard enough!:mad:

The possibility of tragedy is closer than you think, if you don't quit worrying about Epirbs, and Cameras, and glory, and get yourself equipped with the proper basic safety gear and common sense! I went out with you and quite frankly you are going to get yourself or more likely someone else hurt or worse! You showed up very late, with no thought to your safety or that of your "wingman". I listened to you berate me, my kayak, my bait tank, my gear, my poles, my reels, and even my VHF! (you don't even have a F'n radio, gps, compass...!):mad: You can't figure out how to use your GPS/FF, and constantly had to ask where we were?!?:( You have no experience in the area that you led us, thus leading us through numerous heavy kelp areas in the dark,and clueless to our depth or location. You have a P.O.S. PFD that won't float a sardine and you keep it stowed inside your yak (it will help you there:rolleyes:).... no bilge pump, no radio... and no common sense to stay in contact with your wingman! You never leave your partner, especially if they are having problems! Idiot! And you want to be a guide?!?!:eek: Are you kidding me?

Josh, congradulations on being a great fisherman! I mean that.

But be careful about luring in others that do not know any better than to trust you and your judgement and getting them hurt. Be reckless by yourself! Catching fish is one thing, but leading someone else into your reckless abandon is another. Offshore fishing can be done in a kayak, and in a safe way! I went Solo to the N nine yesterday for a great day, I am sore in ways I did not know your butt could hurt:o but after initial disappointment with a 24-26" bonie:eek: (thought it was a tuna), I now have my first YFT on a kayak. A story for later... The point is, it was done safely and in a responsible manner! You really need to learn that side of kayak fishing before you can talk down to those around you. Use your head...posting on these boards about stripped marlin 2.1 miles off the point (that is where you said you spotted your marlin) with the result of getting unprepared kayakers out there is just plain stupid! :shot:

Especially, when I was with you, 150 yards away, and no signs of Marlin, or bait, or any fish, of any kind, at that point in time. I'm tired or hearing your "fish" stories. I don't belive you. The fact that you have hugely exagerated our trip Sun mornig pisses me off! It was a great time and alot of fun... once you paddled off. I cannot attest to anything after you left. But you do not have to have a fairly tale fish to have fun out there. Sorry for busting your bubble, but enough is enough!:icon_bs:

Screw your head on straight before you get someone besides yourself hurt out there.

I wanna hear about the YFT!

Me TOO,TWO, TO,TAMBIEN!!!!!

At least you weren't accused of trying to snag WSB in the ass with treble hooks or of winning tournaments with frozen fish. :rolleyes:

Congrats on the tuna. That's very cool.

Please tell us more about the yft Chuck :eek: .

HandYFTmanSD, do share!

Oh boy, where do I start?
 

Hardcore Chuck lollollollollollollollol

The guy who told me he was sooooooooooo hardcore, and I couldn't go over 1.75 miles an hour without ever losing you, and headed for the barn by 8:00 a.m. (one morelol). You are a joke.
Everytime I turned around you were "DRIFTING" out of sight (everytime). It was pretty funny though, watching your bow barely above the water line, packed full of ice and crap, good thinking. Was this what first pissed you off, when I reccomended you maybe move the weight to the back? I was very nice about this, constantly waiting for you, constantly:rolleyes:. I remember telling you "maybe this is a hidden blessing, since the possibility of passing the golden paddy in the dark". This was my attempt to stay positive, and make you feel better about being a 200lb anchor attached to me.

Listening to you tell me the bait is fine, when I can hear it freaking out in your tank with a timer. My tank with four times the flow, and you get pissed when I ask to put them in mine. You telling me : "I've never had problems with the kayatank", well now you have. Begging you every 15 minutes to please just check on them, and you getting pissed everytime, pretty funny. As a wingman, I thought we had the same goal: Do everything we could to make it to "the zone" with as much lively bait as possible. You on the other hand let your' tank fill up with dead rolled bait, with the pump turning off and on, good job. when I finally came up to you to save the remaining bait, I was horrafied when I looked in your tank. I don't know if you just like to be cruel to little fish, or were just trying to sabotage the trip, but pretty funny if it wasn't on purpose, good job.

Like any trip, I don't use the sonar/GPS combo unit when navigating the bay or going to the pier, sorry if you feel the need. Pretty easy to just hug the shorline, just like we did. It wasn't exactly pea soup fog, more like a beautiful clear night, with the brightest full moon I ever saw. I was clear to tell you that I wasn't familiar with the point from a kayak, and crossing it in the dark was going to be a challenge. I didn't see the point in both of us using the sonar while crossing a mat of kelp, boy that's risky. I only asked you the depth, so we could maybe pick up the pace if outside the kelp, and never asking our position. Why would I need our position if Point Loma is clearly right behind us (it's HUGE) ? My plan for the trip was to save the battery in case I had to Come back in the dark, I don't need to watch kelp, I'm not that easily ammused (safety first). I realized we got real lucky, as I had to cross the surface kelp with the paddle, and couldn't use the mirage drive on the way in. So save that track, as it's the best one, dumb luck I guess.

As it approached 5 a.m. it became clear we were going to be no where near the nine by sun up. Again, I keep circling back again and again, seeing what I can do to help you. Then I find out you are dragging jigs in the dark, pretty smart lol. I can't believe as a wingman who is always way behind, it seemed a good idea to "hay I'm gonna troll multiple jigs in the dark", seriously dude.

Did it hurt your feelings when I told you days prior that the Tuna were hitting tiny jigs, not your giant Rapala Magnum? Did it bother you when I told you "all you are going to catch was sharks with that"? Sounds like pretty sound advice to me, but hey your super smart, atleast that's what you told me. By the way, what did you catch, smart guy?

My 56 year old wingman from last week never left my side. We kept a safe distance to simply not cross lines, without me having to say a thing. We did everthing we could to save bait, and quit feeding the sharks. I don't know if you caught that, but they weren't the target species? Anyone looking for an awesome wingman, give Smokey a call, the guy is hardcore, never cried, and couldn't be more safe.

I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to me talking crap about your gear. You have a set of Seeker black steele rods and 5 Avets, sounds good to me.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if you couldn't see a Marlin jumping, not in the least. You were no where near me when that happened (MORE LIES). I started screaming at you minutes later as you were coming into screaming range (still far off, so don't lie), as I would like to be warned of such a sighting. I've caught plenty of Marlin, and am a good judge of size, and know how to catch them. Which is why I didn't put a bait in the water with the light Tuna line. This is when I finally turned on the sonar/GPS combo unit, and marked the spot, as I didn't see a need one second sooner. Not to mention this is my fourth sonar/GPS combo unit, and they are simple to use by the way (more lies). By the way Chuck, quite a few Marlin are taken from that area, so "don't try to act like you have any idea what you are talking about" (ask around). My favorite quote from you was: "well you should be hooked up by now, if you saw a marlin".lol I'm gonna write that one down, and tell it to every salty captain I see, good one, smart guy.

As far as the PFD, I have what is legally required by law, and have a bad habit of being very comfortable in a kayak without wearing one, sorry. I surf 6 hour sessions with no problem and would never have a problem swimming a couple of miles, never saw the need fishing within eye-sight of the kelp in La Jolla, sorry. I would never tell anyone a PFD isn't a good idea, and would reccomend they wear it at all times, so again you lost me on the safe issue.

Yes, I've been looking at Epirbs, VHF with internal GPs, everyday as a matter of fact, and didn't want to rush into a cheapy radio, sorry. I would prefer to buy the best, and have piece of mind for trips like this in the future. The part of me not being safe is pretty funny though, as I've never gone inshore/offshore without a wingman with a radio, and a bilge-pump. You assured me you had tons of lights, and we had multiple headlights and a giant spotlight each. Yet by 8:00 a.m a few miles off the point, you said "this isn't safe", I'm outa here.

I would love to see your gps track from your' solo trip to the 9 mile bank, fourteen miles out, since you never went over 1.7 miles an hour, and never made it past a few miles last time, and brilliant idea going solo, REAL SAFE. One morelol

THE ONLY THING I DID THAT WASN'T SAFE WAS TO BRING THE WORST WINGMAN IN THE WORLD. HARDCORE CHUCK :biggrinjester::icon_bs:

Congrats on the YFT Chuck!!

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Start by removing the sod and storing it on a plastic tarp. Then, rough out the tree hole with a pointed shovel.


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Next lay a shovel or rake handle across the entire hole and measure down from it to get an accurate depth measurement. once deep enough to bury your arrogance climb in and begin to think things over,

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add enough water to drown, and see what blossums...


yft you say, nice:kayak-surfer:

lollollollollollollol

Well, this took a turn.

Nice work handyman! You da man! Guess you're likin' the new boat?
You rode in CO, you know those saddle-sores go away, right? Congratz!

2:45 PM 08/20/08
You KNOW the pic request is in. You get 72hrs. :)

At 56 myself ,I would and could make this journey in a heartbeat. I would bring pleanty of water, a pfd, compass, and a flashlight. An experienced seaman (such as Josh is) knows about wind and currents, swell directions,drift , etc...and even star navigation thus increasing the odds of survival. With this needed knowledge and the above items survival is an afterthought, I want that yft!! :kayak-surfer: ps. there are two sides to every story than theres the truth, I think I know it. My quote for the day " take risks not to escape life but to prevent life from escaping"....

Ask and ye shall receive:


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I also have the point to point log to show speeds depth time, true heading, etc. I do not need to lie, Josh. This is supposed to be something people do for fun. This is not the first time you have had really nasty things to say to people on this board. I had given you the benefit of not having heard these things from you myself and I base my judgments of people on my own personal experiences with them. This time I have to say I was way wrong.I am not the greatest fisherman, nor the greatest paddler / peddler. Nor even the best fish story teller, I am guilty of exaggerating the facts sometimes as I think we all are to some degree. But I have caught some big fish I am proud of, I go on many mothership and guided trips, I spend a very large amount of money for this hobby. I enjoy the time I do get to spend on the water; as it is at the cost of time with my family. Having you around me is unfortunate, as I try to surround myself with people I can trust.

Having said that, I will no longer give any business directly or indirectly to your "Sponser", Fastlane Sailing, as I will not support anything that has the non-family values attached to it that your attitude does. They could have gotten their value better for sponsoring a "no fish team" member!

Good luck with the rest of your fishing endeavors, and I hope they don't get anyone hurt! So please... talk crap, mouth off, post away, whatever... but stay away from me on the water or off with that attitude. 'nough said:leaving:

WTF? How did I get dragged into this? I'd be offended if I wasn't so stoked about the possibility of a sponsorship.lol oh yeah :the_finger:

"no fish team" not "team no fish." They're actually out of Normandy. Let the rivalry begin!

Nice GPS trail, Chuck!

Holy crap !, yea that is a long ways!! On second thought, I think I'll mothership it...:p

Team No Fish will always catch fewer fish than those Norman punks. We have a reputation to uphold. :boxing:

nice long paddle/peddle! good for you, I wanna hear about the yft

mb

I was super reluctent to post a reply or even be a part of this thread all together. I am going to play peace maker here so bare with me. What's the purpose guys of bashing others on the computer? We are all fisherman and we all kayak do the love of it. Far fetch stories and tall tales have always been a part of a fisherman's lifestyle. The fish that got away is always bigger than the one landed. How many times have you heard, "you should have been here yesterday"? We may not all get along and we may not all agree with each others meathods of fishing but thats what make each one of us individuals. I've met just about every single one of you that post on BWE and I got to say that non of you are bad people. If I was an outsider looking in, post like this and the ones earlier this year would turn me off of kayak fishing. These post are a misrepresentation of the sport. I think that most of it is:icon_bs:. Brent obviously runs this web-site and I'm sure the last thing he wants is a pissing match on an open forum, we're as bad as girls. Many of us look to this website to gain information, read stories to pass time at work, and to see if the bite is going off. Many of us have wives and kids and live through reading your stories because we can't get out more than once a week. I think that whatever happened on the water between Josh and Chuck is between Josh and Chuck. Many of you might not think much of what I have to say, but I think the best meathod of calling others out is in a PM or too their face. I've read this thread and I found it amusing just like a childhood fight in the school yard, but then I started to feel angey because of where this is heading. Brent has worked hard to try to get all the kayak manufactures to come together and some of us have been lucky enough to representatives of those manufactures. I'm no :Angel_anim: but I think we can all keep the mud slinging to a minimum! My 2 Cents!

TL-Matt Moyer

Excuse me just for a second, just gotta be able to say I was a part of this thread for future "on the water" talk. Thanks, carry on. :gnorsi:

p.s. Hi Chuck:ciao:

Well said, Matt.
 

I couldn't agree more, and have nothing but respect for Brent, OEX, BWE, and all the moderators that work very hard.

No lashing out here, as I've learned from my mistakes. For the record, I've never, just come on the internet and said nasty things about anyone. I'm guilty of "responding" in a very poor fashion, I openly admit that, as it's the truth. A "knee jerk reaction" that I apolagized for, and again, I'm truly sorry.


Now for the Handyman : First off, big time congrats on the YFT, I told you it was a matter of time, and I'm truly stoked for you, if you caught one. Just like I would be if Brad or anyone else caught one, that's a true kayak trophy.

Like I said, no lashing out here, I learn from my mistakes. Chuck, you are the one who chose the route of "defaming my character on the internet", "instead of saying anything on the water," anything. How about a phone call (you have my number), an e-mail, or going with the popular P.M. method, all would of worked great.

This post of yours is nothing more than a psycho attempt to put a few needles in my voodoo doll. For the life of me, I have no idea what you are so upset about, again you said nothing on the water, and this wasn't the first time we shared the pond. We have shot P.M.'s back and forth for quite a while, I've openly shared valuable information that you were able to capitalize on, and helped you any way I could. You have my phone #, e-mail, and the option of P.M., yet you chose to "attack me on the internet", classy.

I distinctly remember, running out in waste deep water in the dark a month ago, to help you with a yardsale in 18" surf, and dragged your kayak up on the sand, to help you out. I distinctly remember showing concern, and helping you look for a rod and reel two weeks ago (different situation), even though I was losing precious time during an "early bite", to help you out. I also spent time in the afternoon (checking the gps #'s), even though I was sunburnt to a crisp, to try and help you out. I had a friend snorkel there in the early morning, successfuly talking him out of going to the cove, to help you out. For what? I never expected anything from you, I would of done the same for anyone. What did I have to gain from my actions?

My family and I are very tight also, and you and I have never discussed family values, nor have I expressed any actions to prove otherwise, so again, please don't lie (especially on the internet). Saying these kind of lies, with absolutely nothing to back it up, is a new level of low, even for you, Chuck.

Then, when I didn't think you could stoop any lower, you throw a curve ball. Bringing Fastlane into this is the only reason for my reply, as otherwise, I know the original post is 100% true, the entire play by play, with no reason to defend it from the haters. But, to make an attempt to bring harm directly or indirectly to the Lane family, is a whole nother level.
Without a doubt, the most honest, genuine, strong family, I have ever met. Truly inspiring people, with golden souls, who's reputation precedes themselve's as local royalty. I'm only aware of your one purchase (bait tank) from them, that you successfully returned for a full refund. Then you chose to post about the terrible design and your disgust, poor.

As far as being sponsored, I'm not sure what it takes to qualify. They never gave me a penny to speak highly of Hobie or Fastlane. Everything positive I've said about them is 100% my honest opinion, I just say it like it is. They basically let me barrow them, and test ride at will. I liked the kayak so much I was simply hesitant to bring it back, and if I had to, I would buy one full price, I love them. From anyone I know that has done business with them, the story is the same. I hear awesome testimonials of service, from people I've never met, that makes me proud to be associated with them.

Soap opera drama, sounds like what I hear everyday at high school
(usually between the girls, different issues though). I remember meeting you Josh awhile ago and asked you if you posted on the kayak sites on the web, you pretty much slammed the sites and said proudly that you never posted on those sites. Then I started reading your posts soon after. Good Posts by the way! But kind of a strange transformation. From anti webfisher to master webfisher? What?

Moyer says it well - whatever happened between you two out there is between you both. The only problem though, is that you made this public and both of you started whining about you experience, and each other.
Fun! good entertainment, great journey. Don't take yourselves toooooooo serrious guys!

Plenty of fish right now to go around.

Handymaid I think you are a little harsh on words, but Josh you come across as arrogant.

Do you really want to catch a YFT or Dorado. Or is it because you really want to say you caught a YFT or Dorado.

I heard Kayak Fishing is going to be in the 2012 Olympics, maybe it can be settled there.

Enjoy it while you still can - People

Congrats on the YFT and the awesome paddle! Do you have any pics of the fish?

This is like Jerry F'n Springer online. My wife read this post and now I can't go fish the 9 on my yak.. She thinks I'm gonna come home in a body bag. :mad: I've got enough YFT on the sporties that I don't really care to get one on the yak unless its a personal best anyway, and I doubt it would be coming from the 9. The only reason I would do it is to say I did it anyway. Over it.

Chuck - That is bad ass !!! Congrats... Well deserved.

Josh - You'll get yours soon, no doubt.


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Well this started out as one of the most amazing trip reports i have seen, never thought by the end of it i would have to call Super Nanny to bring the naughty chairs over :D

Still an amazing trip,,i hope you get that VHF and EPIRB soon Josh :)

Seems like arrogance and LJ fishing guides go hand in hand. Must be a requirement to get the commercial launch permit.

You missed the party about two days ago, but at least you did show up! Thanks for the report...

Why do you always post right after I do? Does my ass turn you on?

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cant we all get along